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Tofu boxes appearing in some applications - Q4OS
by padota1663＠mail.com 24 Dec '24

24 Dec '24

Hi everyone, I'm on Q4OS (Debian-based) with Trinity Desktop, and as per title, I have a weird issue since I started using Q4OS back in May, and I still haven't been able to solve it: in some (not all) applications, instead of some kind of characters (more specifically, emojis and italics) tofu boxes appear, and I already installed fonts-noto with all its dependencies. I opened this thread in the Q4OS Support Forum: https://www.q4os.org/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=27828#p27828 and they told me it's a Trinity related bug, as it also happens on a pure Debian fresh install with TDE. How can it be solved? TIA

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Thanks, and a question
by dep 19 Dec '24

19 Dec '24

First, thanks everybody for seeing me through the boot crisis. It does seem to have been the bios settings. Boots reliably now. As to the unattended shutdown, still don't know. It hasn't happened since. We'll see. Second, I've been fiddling with keyboards -- almost got a *new* Model F, but got and am happy with the improved Unicomp Mini Model F. (Details here for anyone who is interested: https://ofb.biz/safari/article/1272.html ) It has Windows keys -- the nice people at Unicomp are sending me blank replacements. I thought that TDE had a native keyboard remapper. I see that Grome does, in their little trick utilities package. There's also something called "Input Remapper." But I'd just as soon remain consistent if possible. The KControl keyboard setting seems to offer only whether the numlock is on. So, is there a TDE keyboard mapping utility? If not, anyone have any experience with something else? (Not counting the commandline. I like it, but not in this case.) Thanks! -- dep Pictures: http://www.ipernity.com/doc/depscribe/album Column: https://ofb.biz/author/dep/

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Recommendation for a distro
by Steven D'Aprano 18 Dec '24

18 Dec '24

My regular desktop died, and I have to purchase a new one. I will be getting an ASUS Mini PC PN41, which is a rebranded Intel NUC: - Intel Celeron N4500 - 4GB RAM - 128GB SSD Which distro should I use in order to install TDE? Requirements: - Keep it simple. I can use commandline tools but prefer not to have to. - I would prefer to avoid systemd based systems. My experience with systemd is that it really struggles to perform on low-powered fanless mini PCs like the Intel NUC boxes. Looking at the list here https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Category:Documentation#Installing_from_a_Pa… I *think* that Devuan is the only officially supported distro that is systemd-less. Is this correct? Would anyone like to comment or make any other suggestions, before I go ahead with a Devuan install? Thanks in advance, Steve

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I broke it and I don't know how
by dep 17 Dec '24

17 Dec '24

Greetings, one and all. Not even remotely a TDE problem, but you lot are known to throw a float to a drowning man even if he fell off some other boat. System is an Asus vanilla AMD-64 running Debian Trixie and TDE Testing. Was running fine, long uptimes. Got up yesterday to an exploded reboot, so something had taken place during the night. Did a power-off reboot. Now it booted to the point of /dev/sda1 clean. Tried a reboot from grub using linux advanced mode. Once I got it to boot all the way in rescue mode. Fiddled around, found nothing wrong, rebooted. That's the last time I saw TDE. Poking around, I saw a case similar to mine in which it was suggested that the bios needed upgrading. I looked, and the date on my bios was in 2013, leading ne to think it was possible that this was true, even though I'd changed nothing since it had been booting just fine. So on another machine I d/led the latest bios file and flashed it. Which of course wiped all my settings because bioses seem to be dumb. Now, when I start the machine it of course has the bios banner, and then grub, and then: ACPI BIOS Warning (bug): Optional FADT field Pm2ControlBlock has valid Length but zero Address: 0x[many zeros]/0x1 (20240322/tbfadt-611) amd_pstate: the_CPC object is not present in SBIOS or ACPI disabled r8169 0000:05:00.0: can't disable ASPM; OS doesn't have ASPM control /dev/sda1: recovering journal /dev/sda1: clean, 435913/4579328 files, 5183079/18310546 blocks If I do a warm reboot, it dies at the bios banner. After a minute it tells me the boot device (normal hard drive) is not supported and to set the comparability mode, press F1 to set it. Which I do, and bext boot gives me: grub> Which is no use at all so I reboot and now again have a normal grub menu. This time I select Advanced mode for my Linux boot. Now it boots happily along. And I can boit into Debian, TDE, the whole works, though now I am in rescue mode (which looks and acts just like any ordinary boot). Which is where I am now. In slight terror it will crash again, but otherwise wondering how I can proceed to make things normal again, Anyone have any ideas? dep Pictures: http://www.ipernity.com/doc/depscribe/album Column: https://ofb.biz/author/dep/

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failed USB port - totally off topic
by William Morder 10 Dec '24

10 Dec '24

Sorry to post off-topic, but this one has me stumped. Has anybody else had a USB port just fail on them? I have three 3.0 USB ports on my laptop, which is a Lenovo 3.15 Ideapad, still reasonably new (less than two years). Last night I was moving round files, and left an external SSD plugged in when I took a nap for a few hours. (It's a WD MyBook, Easy Store or whatever: I have a lot of these WD drives, all similar but slightly different.) A couple hours later, when I got up again, my laptop was almost frozen, could only manage to get the screensaver to wake up, but couldn't get into my system at all. The SSD light was blinking; after an hour of trying to wake up the machine using mouse and keyboard, I gave up, did a hard shut down. When I restarted, everything worked fine, my SSD doesn't appear to be damaged; but the third USB port is not working now. This is kind of crucial for how I work, because I have no working internal hard drive at the moment; my internal SSD died awhile back, I discussed it earlier on the list. So at present, I use USB port 1 for a small unpowered USB hub into which I insert flash drives. USB port 2 is the flash drive on which my working OS (Devuan Daedalus with most recent TDE stable upgrade), and then USB port 3 is reserved for those SSD drives. When I get busy, I have a BIG powered USB hub with enough ports to accomodate the whole neighborhood. But I don't like to drag it out all the time, for many reasons; mainly because I try to keep it simple and my desk uncluttered. I could rearrange, use my powered USB hub to accomodate a new arrangement of devices, but it seems to me that a USB port ought not to just stop working. I have tried other SSDs, other connectors, as well as trying flash drives and other USB gadgets, but nothing works on this USB port. Is there any way to resurrect my seemingly dead USB port? Or can I replace parts and put in a new 3.0 USB port, etc.? Any help will be appreciated. If there are web pages treating this subject, I haven't found them yet. I don't mind doing my own research, if I know where to look. I also don't mind spending a little to repair or replace, but would like to avoid buying yet another new machine so soon. Bill

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KPDF asks for password on some PDFs
by Dr. Nikolaus Klepp 09 Dec '24

09 Dec '24

Hi all! I just found that KPDF is (again) asking for a password on non-password-protected PDFs and fails to open the PDF if no password is given. The PDF preview in konqueror is fine. I have attached a PDF that triggers the behaviour on my system (KPDF 14.2.0~pre65-0debian13.0.0+3~a). Could somebody please verify? Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ...

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[TW20241206] TDM won't launch Plasma 6
by Felix Miata 09 Dec '24

09 Dec '24

Neither will running startplasma-x11 from Xterm in an IceWM session launched from TDM, but I can't find any clues in Xorg.0.log, journal, dmesg or .xsession-errors. Attached tail from tdm.log has lots of errors, but I can't tell that any suggest Plasma errors. The openSUSE forums report problems launching Plasma Wayland, but if there are any for X11, I'm missing them. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata

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no mute since 14.1.3
by Felix Miata 06 Dec '24

06 Dec '24

At least in my Debians, e.g. 11, 12, 13 (14.1.4~pre) on host g5eas, all of them online upgrades, the tray popup for "Mixer" has no mute button above the slider. Instead, there are 3 tiny triangles above the slider that do nothing when clicked. Right ckicking the speaker icon and then toggling mute has no effect either. I've made no changes to the applet's defaults. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata

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*not* TDE related (at least not directly)
by Thierry de Coulon 04 Dec '24

04 Dec '24

Hello mailing list, This is not TDE related, but maybe someone can help. My main machine has stopped working. It boots to a dark screen when loading the system. - I can go to the BIOS - I see the GRUB menu - I see the initial (text) messages, but then the screen turns black - This happens for three OS installed on different disks (MX-21, MX-23, Debian Buster), so it's not a disk problem. - I can boot "Image for Linux" (from USB) and access the partitions (graphical screen, but at low resolution). The computer uses an integrated video card (AMD Ryzen 2400E) I'm trying to find out if this is a motherboard problem or a processor problem. For the moment I am thinking the problem is related to higher resolution, but I can't figure out what causes it. The important data has been migrated to another machine so no worry there, but I simply want to understand. What log am I to look for (all three systems are Debian based)? I'm thankful for any suggestion :) Thierry

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TDE does not start after Ubuntu upgrade
by midi-pascal 03 Dec '24

03 Dec '24

Hi all, I Upgraded from Ubuntu 22.04 LTS (with TDE 14.1.3 working like a charm) to 24.04.1 LTS. Trinity does not start anymore. Details: Upgrade to Ubuntu 24.04 using |"sudo do-release-upgrade -p '24.04.1 LTS'"| Ubuntu upgrade went well. Then, updated /etc/apt/sources.list.d/trinity.list to replace "jammy" with "noble" apt-get update worked apt-get upgrade worked Reboot... Trinity does not start anymore. Log in from prompt and typing "startx" I get the TDE splash screen and a message box saying: "Could not start tdeinit" "Check your installation" I did all this is on a spare disk partition (as usual, before taking the risk of destroying my working setup) so no arm done but I would like to upgrade to Ubuntu 24.04.1 LTS. This is why I ask for support. Thanks a lot, Pascal Note: On previous releases I used to install from TDE live ISO (so easy to with) but it looks like there are no more Ubuntu TDE live ISO... :-(

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