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The Last Word On The Matter
by Kate Draven 17 Nov '15

17 Nov '15

Hello All, I didn't mean to start a debate. I don't think this is the place to discuss politics or religion in any depth. That being said, I have this last thing to say. My clan is old, we have made an effort to be existentialists. I think we did a grand job of it. During our time we've come to some simple conclusions. With very few exceptions, war rarely achieves any positive goals. War services only the few. Violence is rarely an answer. The differences between a soldier and a terrorist are simple. A terrorist will take a life for his beliefs, a soldier will save a life. A soldier believes in the preservation of innocence and freedom a terrorist doesn't believe they exists. A terrorist will celebrate and bask in the death of his enemies, a soldier will morn them and see their deaths as his failure to do his duty. All children, everywhere, are innocent. Regardless of who pulled the trigger, a crime was committed. Regardless of what uniform one wears. We must defend ourselves, we must prevent our extinction, the extinction of our freedoms, our way of life, of our innocent and innocence, but not at the extinction of another. Let's spare this forum political debates. Politics has never served anyone of any value and was created by the near worthless, to serve their goals. Walk away from it and learn to live in peace. I'm sorry for the disruption I've caused, it was not my intent. I had hoped it would be clear that any life lost, is something to morn for. I still think of the girls that were kidnapped from some middle eastern school to serve as "wives". I think of the children killed in that callous drone attack. If you need to hate, hate the chess players, both of them. Not the chess pieces. Kate

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APOLOGY FOR INCOMPETENCE
by Lisi Reisz 17 Nov '15

17 Nov '15

I'm so sorry, everyone, that was meant to go privately to Steven. I am getting thoroughly incompetent in my old age and I can only apologise and ask you to use the delete button. Lisi

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Re: [trinity-users] The Last Word On The Matter
by Kate Draven 17 Nov '15

17 Nov '15

Ok full stop to all of this. Just stop. This is a forum for development of free open source software and not a plateform for political debate. Nor is my emotional sentiment. This comes to a full stop now. Kate

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Contacting people by their personal emails!
by Michael . 16 Nov '15

16 Nov '15

Because I have now been contacted via my personal email by 3 different people on this list I'm going to say to anyone who thinks it is appropriate to contact someone only to then boss them about or be rude to them you are mistaken. I'm a Trinity user and as a Trinity user I will voice my opinion regarding any topic that comes up on this list. If my opinion upsets anyone I formally tend my apology. I will not stand back however and have anyone contact me privately and have a go at me when the topics are on the list for the entire global population to see and read. If you don't like a certain discussion discussion it is your right to stay out of it, no one is forcing you to take part in it but do not contact someone privately only to call them names, tell them not to pollute a mailing list, to tell them they have led a sheltered life, etc etc etc. If you don't like what I say that's fine, comment in the discussion that is going on and express your opinion. If you can't manage that do not contact me via my personal email so no one else can read your comments.

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Let's try this again.
by Kate Draven 16 Nov '15

16 Nov '15

Ok to make it clean to Lisi and others. ALL, I did was express concern for someone on our team that I thought lived in Paris as well as for anyone who was hurt. My was an expression of compassion. Not of politics, or sides. Just compassion. Plain and simple. As for "You started it". I started nothing. All I did was care about people. This litterally will be the last time I response to any more of this. Do as you will. I'll have nothing to do with it. I do hope we can get back to the business of FOSS. Kate

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pet peeve
by Gene Heskett 15 Nov '15

15 Nov '15

Greetings all; One of the un-nessessarily difficult aspects of running linuxcnc, is how the mouse vs menu's is handled. LinuxCNC's file menu in particular has a behaviour that needs a liberal application of a LART but when I ask the developers about it I am told its whatever the window manager does. In this case chase the mouse over and click on the left hand "file" menu, which brings up a list of next operation choices, as you would expect. 2nd on the menu is "recent files". Makes perfect sense because one is often cycleing thru at least 2 file, maybe more, and several tool changes before removing that workpiece from the jig. Problem is, in order to maintain that 2nd menu, the mouse cursor must not leave the "recent files" line of text in the primary menu, else the secondary menu disappears to be replaced by the sub-menu the mouse might be traveling over, ostensibly on its way to the 2nd menu's display. Net result is that sub-menu's are popping up and disappearing as the mouse mopves, and when the pointer arrives at where the filename you wanted to click on, its not there, having been replaced by something else whose only commonality is that it belongs in the "file" menu category. 1. Clicking on the already highlighted "recent files" line of text does nothing, although one would normally expect the click to at least lock it to that function. 2. So I must pull over my chair and sit down so I can guide the mouse as it moves sideways, such that it never leaves that line of text. A 3 second click here, click on the name, done, simply is not possible. The operation can take as long as 30 seconds to get lucky and guide the mouse accurately enough not to lose the menu and get something else. Is it possible to let the mouse click select the menu, then click select the sub-menu, then click select the filename one wants without all this gingerbread popping up and derailing ones line of thought? IOW, do nothing between clicks, just check to see where the click was, totally ignoring how the mouse got to where the click was issued? Its called useability by me, and the present menu's popping in and out of existence as the mouse is moved performance is a huge hindrance to productivity. Obviously, showing the pointer moving is fine, but doing nothing else until a click is issued would be the ideal target. Is it fixable someplace? Thanks people. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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kmail vs gmail problem
by Gene Heskett 14 Nov '15

14 Nov '15

Greetings; Twice in the last 2 weeks I have been forced to reboot the machine, as it had a locked up, unkillable session of kmail showing in htop. I had hit the list reply button, only to be greeted by the spinning dumbell mouse cursor, which would spin forever. The machine was NOT stuck in a loop someplace burning up cpu's, nothing, not even kmail was showing any great cpu activity, but the process itself was unkillable. This time I was attempting to teach Bret Busby how to construct a sig separator, the \r-- \r sequence and it was one of his reply messages I was reading & tried to reply to when it locked up. This reboot took around 30 minutes because /amandatapes-1T, a terabyte drive, had not been fsck'd in 181 days, and fscking a terabyte drive, even if no errors other than severe fragmentation (62%) exist is a 30 to 45 minute process. Amanda, the backup program, /thinks/ the drive is a 30 tape, changer equiped library. (except its 10,0000% more dependable that such a mechanical monster would be, and 2% of the cost) I'd hate to think how long it will take to do a 2 terabyte drive as there is now 4 of them here at the Heskett mini-ranchette. Its difficult to buy anything smaller. I deleted the last 4 messages from him from ~/Mail/kubuntu-users/cur before I restarted kmail, knowing I'd be going thru the same hung machine procedure if I didn't. Last time I made 3 reboots trying, and finally just cleaned out the folder (a different one) before trying a 4th reboot & kmail restart. That, like this, complained about the index file being corrupted on the launch of kmail but normal operation was able to be resumed. Has anyone a clue just what gmail is doing now? Or how to fix kmail so it tolerates a message posted from their (IMNSHO) busted webmail app? This is R14.0.0.2 I believe. Last updated from Slavics? server a day back. Looks like I'll need to reboot again, I have a net caused ooops in the log, and my local network is dead although I can ping yahell. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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Perhaps not the best venue
by Kate Draven 14 Nov '15

14 Nov '15

Perhaps this is not the best venue. However, I believe we have some of us living in France. I pray you are safe. I'll keep you in me prayers, and will pray for the hostages and those who were wounded on killed in today's happening. May this all end in peace. Kate

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PCLOS updated report
by Kate Draven 10 Nov '15

10 Nov '15

Forgot to mention kipi plugins are not seen by the "qt3" or kde3 version of digikam, but is seen in the kde4 version. Also gphotoframe is spitting this little error; [kate@localhost ~]$ gphotoframe Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/gphotoframe", line 19, in <module> from gphotoframe.liststore import PhotoListStore ImportError: No module named gphotoframe.liststore So far I can't figure it out but I'm still on it. Kate

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PCLOS Happy!
by Kate Draven 09 Nov '15

09 Nov '15

I've been playing about with the latest release of PCLOS. I'm very happy with it so far. There are some things I don't know if I care for, such as HAL, but so far it hasn't bothered me or refused to open the pod bay doors. I had a little trouble with synaptic and the reps, but I'm figuring that out. Never try to figure things out when deprived of chocolate btw. I can't remember the lad's name, that put this together but cheers to you. So far so good. Sorry to took so long to get back to you on the test results but I never just do an install, I do some deep testing and mods. If it can stand up to me insanity, then it's a go. Cheers to all Kate

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