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26 Sep '24

Some months ago I asked here if there were a way to log my ISP's downtime, and got a useful answer. Today I've been attempting to refine it a bit, and there is some progress, but not success. Here's what I have: [code] #!/bin/bash #monitor frontier communications downtime ping -i 3 -O -D 1.1.1.1 | while read row do awk '{ sub(/[0-9]{10}/, strftime("%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S", substr($0,2,10))) } 1' <<< "$row"| tee ~/frontier_downtime.log done [/code] Most of it is simply converting internet time to human time, because I might have to use it to support a complaint. It runs fine in a terminal, a nice ping and result every three seconds, but only writes the first line, the first ping result, to the logfile. (And yes, ir's probably sloppy.) What do I have wrong? Bonus question: any way to keep it running with the terminal closed? I can't even use & to free the terminal; I'd like to start the thing and have it cook merrrily away without a terminal open or even minimized, and use top or killall to dispose of it if that becomes necessary. I'm pretty sure I'm missing something obvious. -- dep Pictures: http://www.ipernity.com/doc/depscribe/album Column: https://ofb.biz/author/dep/

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Configure can't find TQt
by christian.storzer＠posteo.net 26 Sep '24

26 Sep '24

Note: I've asked the same question per e-mail to the mailing list but the server seems to be down for a while, so if this crops up a second time just ignore. Hello everyone. First let me say thanks to everyone involved in this project, highly appreciated. I've compiled almost everything of the latest stable release on Void Linux and installed everything into /usr/local/stow/tde prefix. I use stow for stuff I compile myself (it makes symlinks into /usr/local). Almost everything of TDE compiled and works fine, but with koffice and some other remaining packages that are not built with cmake, those packages cannot find TQt3. Now the configure script does find tqt3 once: checking for tqt... yes checking TQt_CFLAGS... -DTQT_NO_ASCII_CAST -DTQT_NO_STL -DTQT_NO_COMPAT -DTQT_NO_TRANSLATION -DTQT_THREAD_SUPPORT -D_REENTRANT -include tqt.h -I/usr/include/qt3 -I/usr/local/stow/tde/include/tqt checking TQt_LIBS... -L/usr/local/stow/tde/lib64 -ltqt -ltqt-mt Detected TQt3. and then fails: checking for TQt... configure: error: TQt (>= TQt 3.3 and < 4.0) (library tqt-mt) not found. Please check your installation! For more details about this problem, look at the end of config.log. Make sure that you have compiled TQt with thread support! Here is a complete config.log: https://pastebin.com/h7YYQ7rg I've tried looking at the FreeBSD and gentoo compile scripts and tried different ./configure options, I've tried compiling tqt3 and tqt3-interface again with all options I found in the compile scripts and put them into a seperate prefix and tried configure with the extra-lib-dir options. etc. Any ideas? Thanks!

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Screenshot including mouse cursor?
by dep 25 Sep '24

25 Sep '24

The TDE screenshot application has no facility I can find for including the mouse cursor in the picture, which is how we most always want our screenshots. But for illustrative reasons I'd like to make a couple that include it. The current KDE screenshot has a checkbox to include it, but for some reason it doesn't work here. Anybody know of a way I can do it? dep Pictures: http://www.ipernity.com/doc/depscribe/album Column: https://ofb.biz/author/dep/

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[TW] sessions won't start from TDM
by Felix Miata 24 Sep '24

24 Sep '24

# tail of journal Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd[1]: Starting User Login Management... Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd-logind[2198]: Failed to connect to system bus: No such file or directory Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd-logind[2198]: Failed to fully start up daemon: No such file or directory Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd[1]: systemd-logind.service: Main process exited, code=exited, status=1/FAILURE Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd[1]: systemd-logind.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'. Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd[1]: Failed to start User Login Management. Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd[1]: systemd-logind.service: Scheduled restart job, restart counter is at 5. Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd[1]: dbus.socket: Start request repeated too quickly. Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd[1]: dbus.socket: Failed with result 'start-limit-hit'. Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd[1]: Failed to listen on D-Bus System Message Bus Socket. Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd[1]: Starting Load Kernel Module drm... Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd[1]: modprobe(a)drm.service: Deactivated successfully. Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd[1]: Finished Load Kernel Module drm. Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd[1]: systemd-logind.service: Start request repeated too quickly. Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd[1]: systemd-logind.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'. Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd[1]: Failed to start User Login Management. Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd[1]: display-manager.service: Found left-over process 1166 (tdecryptocardwa) in control group while starting unit. Ignoring. Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd[1]: display-manager.service: This usually indicates unclean termination of a previous run, or service implementation deficiencies. Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd[1]: display-manager.service: Found left-over process 1175 (dcopserver) in control group while starting unit. Ignoring. Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd[1]: display-manager.service: This usually indicates unclean termination of a previous run, or service implementation deficiencies. Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd[1]: display-manager.service: Found left-over process 2090 (dcopserver) in control group while starting unit. Ignoring. Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd[1]: display-manager.service: This usually indicates unclean termination of a previous run, or service implementation deficiencies. Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd[1]: Starting X Display Manager... Sep 23 23:27:51 display-manager[2208]: /etc/vconsole.conf available Sep 23 23:27:51 display-manager[2208]: KEYMAP: us Sep 23 23:27:51 display-manager[2208]: Command: localectl set-keymap us Sep 23 23:27:51 display-manager[2208]: I: Using systemd /usr/share/systemd/kbd-model-map mapping Sep 23 23:27:51 localectl[2215]: Failed to connect to bus: No such file or directory Sep 23 23:27:51 display-manager[2204]: Starting service tdm Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd[1]: Started X Display Manager. Sep 23 23:28:13 tdm[2232]: pam_systemd(xdm:session): Failed to connect to system bus: No such file or directory Sep 23 23:28:13 tdm[2232]: pam_unix(xdm:session): session opened for user root(uid=0) by root(uid=0) Sep 23 23:28:13 tdm[2232]: pam_unix(xdm:session): session closed for user root Sep 23 23:29:32 systemd[1]: Starting Cleanup of Temporary Directories... Sep 23 23:29:32 systemd[1]: systemd-tmpfiles-clean.service: Deactivated successfully. Sep 23 23:29:32 systemd[1]: Finished Cleanup of Temporary Directories. Sep 23 23:29:32 systemd[1]: run-credentials-systemd\x2dtmpfiles\x2dclean.service.mount: Deactivated successfully. Sep 23 23:30:13 tdm[2346]: pam_systemd(xdm:session): Failed to connect to system bus: No such file or directory Sep 23 23:30:13 tdm[2346]: pam_unix(xdm:session): session opened for user root(uid=0) by root(uid=0) Sep 23 23:30:13 tdm[2346]: pam_unix(xdm:session): session closed for user root # rpm -qa | grep pam | sort pam-1.6.1-4.1.x86_64 pam-config-2.11+git.20240911-1.1.x86_64 pam-extra-1.6.1-4.1.x86_64 pam-manpages-1.6.1-4.1.noarch pam_pwquality-1.4.5-2.3.x86_64 yast2-pam-5.0.0-1.4.noarch # TDM works fine, except if I want to start a login session from it. This is a freshly resurrected SSD in a PC whose motherboard died in August two years ago. I stumbled onto a free motherboard replacement suited to the RAM, CPU, cooler, etc. and got it going today. I managed to upgrade TW from 20220807 to 20240922 without any significant obstacles, until trying to login to any of Plasma, TDE, or IceWM from TDM. Failsafe does start a session with an Xterm, from which starttde opens a normally functioning TDE desktop. Any ideas or suggestions whether this could be a TW problem or a TDM problem, or how to fix it? -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata

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Pointers on pointers?
by dep 23 Sep '24

23 Sep '24

Greets, everybody . . . The Debian install seems to be working just fine but for a couple littlish hiccups: It didn't fix the occasional weirdness where my keyboard doesn't recognize some keys and seems endlessly stuck with others, which is fixed, for days, by a reboot. Changing keyboards doesn't help. For more than a decade, there has been no problem with a link from a directory on the second hard drive to my /home directory. Now it won't and instead throws an error saying it's trying to overwrite itself. All this means is that I have to kind of set it up every time and can't go directly to it with the file manager. Partition is mounted at /media/sdb1 and I have the permissions needed. Weird. Kmail crashes fairly frequently, reason unknown. Maybe Debian has a mail users setting. Haven't looked, and I can send and receive okay. The crash reporter, best I can tell, has never served any useful purpose. But that's not what I'm here to ask about. I'm *still* trying to find where the mouse pointers found in the Mouse > Cursor themes in KControl are located on the drive. If I knew what they are called I could do a locate, but I don't. I hope to take a pre-existing set, one that I don't and won't ever use, and experiment a little bit with it. In the happy long-ago days of OS/2, there was an actual OS/2 application -- $35, and I bet I'm the only one who bought a copy -- that not only let you design your own pointers easily, but let you put the hot pixel wherever you wanted and, more important and what I'd ideally like to achieve, let you color them such that wherever you were on the screen, the pointer would be the opposite of the color beneath it. On the fly. Instantly. Always. Totally visible. I do not know if X even allows anything like this, but it's worth wasting a day over. Even if that isn't possible, I'd like to pull some of them up in the icon editor and change their colors so that they are really, really visible. But I can't break them because I can't find where they live! Anyone know? -- dep Pictures: http://www.ipernity.com/doc/depscribe/album Column: https://ofb.biz/author/dep/

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[SOLVED] Pointer on pointers
by dep 20 Sep '24

20 Sep '24

On a Debian install, anyway, they're in /usr/share/icons, in /[directory name]/cursors. Now trying to figure out how to make the I-beam cursor in LibreOffice (or anything else; same problem in KWord, Abiword, and Calligra) much bolder. It's damn near invible and has been a problem for years. LibreOffice says to change it in Windows accessibility. I hope they step barefoot on a Lego left three steps up on the stairs. It is said there is some gtk setting that might fix it, but no one seems to know where or how. If it's hard coded, move that Lego to the ninth step. I think there used to be a KDE or TDE compatability package for LibreOffice, but if memory serves it was dropped years ago, and I don't know if it let TDE or Qt or something override the cursors. dep Pictures: http://www.ipernity.com/doc/depscribe/album Column: https://ofb.biz/author/dep/

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Darkness :) Remaster of devuan testing + TDE + dark theme for AMD64
by Dr. Nikolaus Klepp 19 Sep '24

19 Sep '24

Hi all! I just uploaded my last devuan testing + TDE 14.2 remaster - this time with a dark theme (including kate) - and it finally got a name (darkness). I would be interested if you run into issues with it. Thread on devuan: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=6850 ISO: https://samhain.at/devuan_tde/darkness-20240918.iso SHA256: https://samhain.at/devuan_tde/darkness-20240918.iso.sh256 SHA256: 97c6c6fbf3d49bfc9b9231f586a1143da8761cfe9657dcb72676793c3b693856 Background is done by myself, so if anybody wants to include it in TDE (or highres versions of my deviantart.com/zwieblum gallery) just drop me a note. Enjoy :) Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ...

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Outlook woes
by Thierry de Coulon 15 Sep '24

15 Sep '24

I don't like Outlook, unfortunately that's what my school uses. For now I use Prospect Mail to acces this mail (and it does work correctly, although the interface is terrible - seems to be a clone of Outlook's). My global problem is that when they send a mail to my outlook address, I don't know it. I had found a nice way to live with it, by redirecting (forwarding) the mail from Outlook to kmail (I still have to use Prospect Mail to send an answer because since they ativated two factor authentication Outlook's smtp refuses me). Now, for some reason I cannot fathom, they have blocked redirection. Getting mail from Outlook from kmail fails (I guess because of two factor authentication). I have not been able to imagine a way to make Prospect Mail tell me that I received mail (and anyway it's not running all the time). I wanted to try Mailspring, but it wants to store my credentials in a keyring, and although I have both gnome-keyring and libsecret installed (courtesy of MX-Linux I suppose), Mailspring does not find them (and mailspring --password-store= does not work, either with libsecret, gnome-keyring or tdewalletmanager-trinity). So, as several of you recently praised the help offered by this mailing list, maybe I am in luck and one of you has some advice to offer on the subject? Would it be possible to start Prospect mail (cron job?) and get some information about new incomming mails? Thierry

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Where are cursors stored?
by dep 14 Sep '24

14 Sep '24

I have for years used a red mouse pointer in TDE, and for some reason I can't find where I put them, so I guess I'll raid s backup. But if I can, I'd like to know ahead of time where TDE stores its installed mouse cursors. Anybody know? dep Pictures: http://www.ipernity.com/doc/depscribe/album Column: https://ofb.biz/author/dep/

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And on Friday the 13th, too!
by dep 14 Sep '24

14 Sep '24

Happy and stunned to say that the de-Ubuntu-ization has been going better than I had any right to expect. The whole setting up of "sudo" was a pain -- not stuff you're likely to remember when you do it once every many years -- and some various flaky stuff. Otoh, the easiest nvidia driver install in history, so I'll take it. Many, many things I expected to be hell to reconfigure . . . made it through the switch. My background is xplanet, as always, with a high-res moon picture that I see has a timestamp of Dec. 26, 1998 -- I seem to be set in my ways. One surprise is that may be a bug. In the reduced version of the preview TDE, KMenu does not seem to be installed by default. I do not know whether that was intentional -- can't imagine it would be -- but unless one knows to go to the panel applets and find and put it on Kicker, there's no application menu. Now, a question: Where is the Basket note pads application for TDE? Has its name changed? It is one of those applications out with which I cannot do. (Clear back to DOS, when I was addicted to InfoSelect -- indeed, many of the notes there were transferred from InfoSelect to something else inferior on Linux before Basket came along.) Is there a version, for TDE, someplace? Related, what's a good repository browser? I've used Synaptic for the 20 years I used Kubuntu, and, well, Ubuntu. Anybody have recommendations? Thanks! -- dep Pictures: http://www.ipernity.com/doc/depscribe/album Column: https://ofb.biz/author/dep/

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