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xterm settings in r14
by rolf 22 Dec '14

22 Dec '14

Hi, I would ask, if there is a reason, why the xterm in r14 starts with black foreground and black background, which may only suitable for blinds and can best read with braille devices? Rolf

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Maximise doesn't really maximise, is this intended or is it a bug?
by Michael . 21 Dec '14

21 Dec '14

Hi As the title says maximise doesn't really maximise, it does enlarge to the edge of the screen but I can still grab the edge of the application (e.g. iceweasel,chrome, LibreOffice, etc) and change the size. I am used to maximise taking the application to the edge of the screen and not being able to grab the edge of it. Is this intentional or is it a bug? Cheers. Michael.

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Trinity Desktop Environment R14.0.0 Released!
by Timothy Pearson 21 Dec '14

21 Dec '14

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA224 The Trinity Desktop Environment (TDE) development team is pleased to announce the immediate availability of the new TDE R14.0.0 release. The Trinity Desktop Environment is a complete software desktop environment designed for Unix-like operating systems, intended for computer users preferring a traditional desktop model, and is free/libre software. Unlike previous releases TDE R14.0.0 has been in development for over two years. This extended development period has allowed us to create a better, more stable and more feature-rich product than previous TDE releases. R14 is brimming with new features, such as a new hardware manager based on udev (HAL is no longer required), full network-manager 0.9 support, a brand new compositor (compton), built-in threading support, and much more! Version scheme change Also new in this release is a change from the KDE v3.5.x series versioning. In line with our new, separate identity, and to avoid incorrect comparisons with KDE SC based on version number alone, we are dropping the old versioning scheme and replacing it with our new R-series versioning scheme. Each new release from this point forward will be identified with three numbers prefixed with an R (standing for "Release"); the first number is the major series, the second is the minor series, and the last is the Stable Release Update (SRU) identifier. A stable series will be indicated by a single Rxx.yy identifier, e.g. R14.0. Major overhauls of the codebase that significantly and permanently change the way TDE functions, such as the transition from HAL to the TDE Hardware Library or the new style engine, will only occur when the major series number increments. Normal, incremental development, including new features, will be indicated with an increment of the minor version number. Bug fixes backported to a stable series (Rxx.yy)--with no new features or changed functionality--will be indicated via an increment of the SRU identifier alone. Getting TDE Installation instructions and binary packages are immediately available for Debian and Ubuntu. Packages for RedHat/CentOs, Fedora, Mageia, OpenSUSE, and PCLinuxOS are being built by their respective maintainers and will be made available at a later date. Live CDs with TDE R14.0.0 preinstalled are available at https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/LiveCDs . Major Improvements from 3.5.13.x The following is a list of the major improvements TDE R14.0.0 includes. * New HAL-independent hardware support based on udev. HAL support is still available for those systems (such as *bsd) that require it. * Significant renaming of applications, libraries, and packages to avoid conflicts with other desktop environments (most notably KDE). This allows TDE to be installed in parallel with other desktop environments without significant negative interaction. * Upgrades to TQt3 (TDE's fork of Qt 3.3.8). TQt3 upgrades include a new, modern style engine, multi-threading support, and improved speed and stability. * Support for network-manager 0.9 and newer. * Switched compositor from Kompmgr to Compton-TDE, a fork of Compton with TDE-specific features. * Added builds for armel/armhf architectures on Debian and armhf on Raspbian Wheezy. * File mimetype detection system now based on libmagic. To see more highlights of this release, please visit the TDE R14.0.0 information page at https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Release_Notes_For_R14.0.0 . About TDE The Trinity Desktop Environment (TDE) was forked by Timothy Pearson in 2008 from the last official release of the K Desktop Environment's third series (KDE3), version 3.5.10. It existed as a set of modified KDE3 packages for Ubuntu until 2009, when it was merged onto a proper source control system (KDE SVN) and rebranded as TDE. Shortly thereafter, TDE's core infrastructure was created utilizing spare computing capacity from Raptor Engineering; these infrastructure resources currently include the world's only Launchpad system based outside of Canonical Ltd. As the project grew, the TDE team migrated off of KDE's SVN server onto our own GIT server and has been completely independent from KDE from 2011 onward. - From the beginning of the TDE project, individuals from around the world have contributed to TDE, and our original desire to provide a powerful, functional desktop environment in the traditional style has been upheld. The TDE project still is led by Timothy Pearson utilizing Raptor Engineering's computing resources. TDE currently is growing faster than it ever has before, with many new contributors--and our dependable core team of developers--helping to add new functionality, repair bugs, answer questions on the mailing lists, and increase TDE's overall quality. TDE fits into a niche similar to that of the MATE project for Gnome, but TDE is geared more toward those who want a productive, efficient interface with a high customization potential. Our dedicated team is continuing to refine TDE instead of rebuilding it from scratch; this prolonged development is something rarely seen in the open source applications arena. While our niche position may not be as glamorous as some of the larger projects such as KDE and Gnome we believe TDE is no less important to those who rely on it and use it in their daily work, and we hope that in the future our niche will continue to grow. Developers Wanted The TDE development team is small but friendly. If you wish to participate in the TDE development process, please visit https://www.trinitydesktop.org/helpwanted.php for additional information. User Feedback Feedback from our users is an integral part of a large, user-experience oriented project such TDE. Whether you want to report a bug, suggest an improvement, or simply let us know your opinion of TDE, please feel free to contact us. Two good places to start communication are the project's mailing lists at https://www.trinitydesktop.org/mailinglist.php and its bug tracker at https://bugs.trinitydesktop.org . Contribute to the TDE Project Creating TDE requires significant computing resources and bandwidth. Please consider helping to keep us online with a donation at https://www.trinitydesktop.org/donate.php . Without your financial assistance, TDE would not be possible! Press Contact Information Project Founder/Administrator: Timothy Pearson, kb9vqf(a)pearsoncomputing.net -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iFYEARELAAYFAlSQln8ACgkQLaxZSoRZrGH6YADgybpgKaNr2Q8Q3vb56nzL4NtC lsmpXHIyWPZHCwDbBcGsKBtWM6pgYhizFqDRmsDDm/Ptug9yHQ17zQ== =B/8v -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Build from source tarball faced problem
by Tariq HO 20 Dec '14

20 Dec '14

Hi, I'm beginner of building TDE from source code tarball. I followed foot steps of installation guide. Even I can't say TQT has successfully installed via "make install". But I seems to be managed to execute "make install", with adapted TQT paths. After tdebase installed, I stopped. Suppose TDE R14 was my new desktop, but the desktop is still GNOME on my Debian Wheezy. What went wrong? Thanks, Tariq

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a real upgrade mess
by dep 20 Dec '14

20 Dec '14

upgrade on my notebook machine went relatively uneventfully, so i thought it safe to upgrade desktop machine. and boke everything to the extent that i do not have x on the desktop machine at all. am running ubuntu-12.04LTS from a terminal, having added the specified lines to my sources.list and commented out the old tde lines, i did: sudo apt-get update sudo aptutide upgrade due to server congestion i had to run the latter several times. it then specified a problem, to be solved by removal of libcal2b-trinity and libqt-perl. the installation blows up in a fashion too long to list here -- i'd have to type it in character by characer, and it includes "25 not fully installed or removed" when i went back at it with sudo apt-get dist-upgrade. that command blows up with: dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/tdelibs-data-trinity_4%3a14.0.0-r1231-0ubuntu12.04.0+pr138_all.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite '/opt/trinity/share/icons/crystalsvg/16x16/devices/cdrom_unmount_encrypt.png', which is also in package kdebase-kio-plugins-trinity 4:3.5.13.2-0ubuntu12.04.0+0 dpkg-deb (subprocess): data was killed by signal (Broken pipe) dpkg-deb (subprocess): error: subprocess <decompress> returned error exit status 2 Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/tdelibs-data-trinity_4%3a14.0.0-r1231-0ubuntu12.04.0+pr138_all.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) not real sure how to proceed. ideas? thanks. -- dep The shortest distance between you and great fingerstyle guitar playing? The new instructional DVDs from Marjorie Thompson, available now at www.MarjorieThompson.com

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Problems with qxl-x-11-server
by rolf 20 Dec '14

20 Dec '14

Hi, I found, that trinity has problems with the qxl-X11-server, which is for working with the spice protocol and qemu/kvm. It seems, that the refresh did not work properly. I don't know, if it is a problem of trinity or the xserver-xorg? Attached a screenshot showing the problems Fine regards Rolf

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well, got kmail working, but . . .
by dep 19 Dec '14

19 Dec '14

. . . in the standard linux tradition, i did some stuff and then got the trinity kmail. but this is what the commandline also gave me: dep@deportable:~$ kmail TQSettings::sync: failed to open '/etc/tqt3/tqt_plugins_3.5rc.tmp' for writing TQSettings::sync: failed to open '/etc/tqt3/tqt_plugins_3.5rc.tmp' for writing TQSettings::sync: failed to open '/etc/tqt3/tqt_plugins_3.5rc.tmp' for writing [TDE NM Backend ERROR] [/build/buildd/tdelibs-trinity-14.0.0-r1231/tdecore/tdehw/networkbackends/network-manager/network-manager.cpp:1224] org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freedesktop.NetworkManager was not provided by any .service files [TDE NM Backend ERROR] [/build/buildd/tdelibs-trinity-14.0.0-r1231/tdecore/tdehw/networkbackends/network-manager/network-manager.cpp:1224] org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freedesktop.NetworkManager was not provided by any .service files [TDE NM Backend ERROR] [/build/buildd/tdelibs-trinity-14.0.0-r1231/tdecore/tdehw/networkbackends/network-manager/network-manager.cpp:1803] org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freedesktop.NetworkManager was not provided by any .service files dep@deportable:~$ WeaverThreadLogger: thread (ID: 1) suspended. WeaverThreadLogger: thread (ID: 3) suspended. WeaverThreadLogger: thread (ID: 2) suspended. WeaverThreadLogger: thread (ID: 4) suspended. kmail: WARNING: FolderStorage::getMsg was asked for an invalid index. idx =1 count()=1 maybe there's nothing here to worry about. but it looks a little sketchy. -- dep The shortest distance between you and great fingerstyle guitar playing? The new instructional DVDs from Marjorie Thompson, available now at www.MarjorieThompson.com

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little upgrade bump
by dep 19 Dec '14

19 Dec '14

lord how i hate upgrades anymore. not so much talking tde here but ubuntu. anyway, installed ubuntu 14.04LTS, i think -- i wonder if it blew up someplace, because it didn't, for instance, install grub so i had to do some commandline stuff to get it to boot from the new kernel. oh, for a return to lilo! but i think i have it all installed and somewhat working. more or less. so, then, installed tde. except that kmail doesn't work. so i started it from konsole. it says "kmail: error while loading shared libraries:libmailprivate.so:cannot open shared object file:no such file or directory" i'm really hoping that ubuntu is not trying to stick me with a kde4.x thing. so to begin with, i should ask: is "kmail" the command to start the tde version of kmail? -- dep The shortest distance between you and playing great acoustic guitar: the great new instructional DVDs from Marjorie Thompson, available at www.MarjorieThompson.com

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upgrade path question
by dep 19 Dec '14

19 Dec '14

hey there, good people . . . this is a pretty lame question; fortunately, i'm old enough that lame doesn't bother me all that much anymore. it's been awhile since i burned a kernel, built open office from source, or built kde -- the way we used to, say, 15 years ago (i even once wrote a piece about whether it took longer to compile all of kde than it did to drive from connecticut to key west -- http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/opinions/3420/1 ). so now there's a new version of the real, useful kde, now known as tde. i'm on ubuntu 12.04LTS. time to do a general upgrade. what i'm seeking is advice as to the easiest, least-annoying way to upgrade both operating system and tde -- i'm using 3.5.13.2 -- without breaking, well, anything. i've kept the same configurations for ages. i like them. many took days to sort out and i forgot how i did them. so. anyone here have a decent recipe for upgrading the whole thing all at once, rebooting, and having what i have, only better? -- dep The shortest distance between you and playing great acoustic guitar: the great new instructional DVDs from Marjorie Thompson, available at www.MarjorieThompson.com

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Problems installing 3.5.14
by rolf 19 Dec '14

19 Dec '14

Hi, I try to install trinity 3.5.14 on a fresh minimal wheezy system. Because it does not work, so Installed a 3.5.13 which runs flawlessly. Then I try to make a dist-upgrade but there is an error message which says: libkdepim1a-trinity could not be installed, because it depends on libtdepim1a-trinity. even if I worte "aptitude install libkdepim1a-trinity libtdepim1a-trinity" The system is an absolute minimal wheezy where suggests and requierements are forbitten by default. Attached you find the two skripts I use. Perhaps it might help you and you can help me. Many thanks Rolf

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