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TDE nighly builds & jessie binutils
by Dr. Nikolaus Klepp 02 Jan '14

02 Jan '14

Hi all! I'm going to do some tests on jessie & TDE nightly builds. It looks like some packages from TDE do not want binutils from jessie. Well, non of these packages are vital, but I thought I'd let you know. tdescreensaver-trinity : Hängt ab von: binutils (< 2.23.52.20130829) aber 2.23.90.20131017-1 ist installiert. tdeartwork-theme-window-trinity : Hängt ab von: binutils (< 2.23.52.20130829) aber 2.23.90.20131017-1 ist installiert. kworldclock-trinity : Hängt ab von: binutils (< 2.23.52.20130829) aber 2.23.90.20131017-1 ist installiert. eyesapplet-trinity : Hängt ab von: binutils (< 2.23.52.20130829) aber 2.23.90.20131017-1 ist installiert. tdeartwork-style-trinity : Hängt ab von: binutils (< 2.23.52.20130829) aber 2.23.90.20131017-1 ist installiert. kmoon-trinity : Hängt ab von: binutils (< 2.23.52.20130829) aber 2.23.90.20131017-1 ist installiert. kteatime-trinity : Hängt ab von: binutils (< 2.23.52.20130829) aber 2.23.90.20131017-1 ist installiert. fifteenapplet-trinity : Hängt ab von: binutils (< 2.23.52.20130829) aber 2.23.90.20131017-1 ist installiert. ktux-trinity : Hängt ab von: binutils (< 2.23.52.20130829) aber 2.23.90.20131017-1 ist installiert. kweather-trinity : Hängt ab von: binutils (< 2.23.52.20130829) aber 2.23.90.20131017-1 ist installiert. amor-trinity : Hängt ab von: binutils (< 2.23.52.20130829) aber 2.23.90.20131017-1 ist installiert. tdescreensaver-xsavers-trinity : Hängt ab von: binutils (< 2.23.52.20130829) aber 2.23.90.20131017-1 ist installiert. Hängt ab von: xscreensaver-data aber es soll nicht installiert werden. kodo-trinity : Hängt ab von: binutils (< 2.23.52.20130829) aber 2.23.90.20131017-1 ist installiert. Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA. Dr. Nikolaus Klepp Einnehmerstraße 14 A-4810 Gmunden Tel.: +43 650 82 11 724 email: office(a)klepp.biz

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a puzzle, maybe or maybe not trinity-related
by dep 30 Dec '13

30 Dec '13

hi, folks. this is a puzzle; it's something that has happened occasionally for years but now has become frequent enough to be an annoyance, and i do not know enough about the mechanisms involved even to begin to troubleshoot it. here's what happens: i am going merrily along and doing my work when i send an email message or go to a webpage and get errors that the host could not be found -- the usual dns error. when this happens i use the handy system settings network configurator and invariably discover that all the nameservers that i have listed are now gone. i presume that this application writes to /erc/resolv.conf (which is now a link to a resolv.conf someplace else, in /run/resolv.conf, which is heaven knows where but i suppose is one of those virtualized filesystems the boys are so proud of). anyway, i usually keep three domain nameservers there, just in case one goes down. something is causing them to disappear. i haven't fiddled with this stuff since resolv.conf was hard-coded such that you'd su root, edit /etc/resolv.conf, save the file, and be happy evermore. but now the file says not to edit it because it will be overwritten anyway. so. any guesses as to what might be making my list of nameservers disappear? that failing, any good recipe for troubleshooting it to see who is eating my nameservers? and if not that, is there anyplace i can put them so that they won't get overwritten? thanks very much and merry christmas, everybody! -- dep The shortest distance between you and playing great acoustic guitar: the great new instructional DVDs from Marjorie Thompson, available at www.MarjorieThompson.com

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Trinity 3.5.13.2 on OS12.3, unresolved dependency
by Jagged O'Neill 27 Dec '13

27 Dec '13

High everyone, I have just installed Trinity from the binary repositories. I strictly followed the instructions on http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Documentation/OpenSUSEBinaryIns… but zypper complained about a missing dependency. I'd bet a lot that was the accessibility package, because I clearly remember that I thought "Heck, I'm not that disabled...". It downloaded everything, then installed everything (at least it looked like that). But I couldn't get it to run. There was no startkde, no starttde, no kwin, no twin, no whatever. But it certainly installed a lot of files in /opt. To let you have a figure without sending the whole ls-lR: $ du -sh /opt/* 61M /opt/kde3 377M /opt/trinity That was yesterday. Now before sending this email, I just called YaST to check back for the dependency message, which now is obviously altered to trinity-desktop-3.5.13.2-2.oss123.opt.noarch requires trinity-tdeaddons >= 3.5.13.2, but this requirement cannot be provided There is a package called trinity-kdeaddons in the repo, but its size is just 0 bytes; the corresponding debugsource seems healthy (3.4MiB). This is the same for trinity-tdeaccessibility (0 vs. 2.7MiB). Other zero-size packages (except the meta packages) are: - trinity-gwenview-i18n-debugsource - trinity-kaffeine-mozilla-debugsource - trinity-kstreamripper-debugsource - trinity-libqt3-jni-devel - trinity-libtrinity-jni-devel - trinity-python-trinity-debugsource - trinity-rosegarden-debugsource - trinity-smartcardauth-debugsource - trinity-tdeadmin - trinity-tdeartwork (though YaST shows it as installed, but also describes it as a meta package) - trinity-tdebindings (shown as installed) - trinity-tdebindings-devel - trinity-tdebindings-java (shown as installed) - trinity-tdebindings-xparts-extras - trinity-tdegames - trinity-tdegames-devel - trinity-tdemultimedia - trinity-tdepim - trinity-tdesdk - trinity-tdesdk-devel - trinity-tdeutils - trinity-tdewebdev That's what I've found; maybe I missed a few --- operating yast over a low bandwidth vnc is a bit clumsy. Now YaST shows 1058 packages overall; rpm -qa reports 168 packages (I didn't count those shown as installed in YaST), and I'm sure that the download contained of 223 individual files. I have no idea which of the packages didn't install due to unresolved dependencies, or which are simply not covered by the trinity-desktop meta package, but many things that I actually expected were not installed, like kwin/twin, startkde/starttde, etc. when trying to install trinity-twin, YaST shows the missing tdeaddons dependency again, referring to trinity-desktop, not trinity-twin. I select "break trinity-desktop-3.5.13.2-2.oss123.opt.noarch by ignoring some of its dependencies" actually selects twin for installation. I will see how far this will work. Most of the above zero-sized files are not that important, but I definitely want to have kicker. Anyway, I think it'd be great if this would be fixed. No need to do it today though :-) Have a merry X-mas, best regards and thanks in advance, Jagged

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gui freeze.
by Felmon Davis 26 Dec '13

26 Dec '13

greetings! using Trinity Desktop, David Hare's exegnu, on Acer Aspire One 722 with kernel 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae. I can run Manjaro 3.9.4-1-xxx and Debian Trinity kernel 2.6.32-6-686 (also Hare's version) on this boxlet without a problem except I was fumbling with getting wifi started on the latter, thus the bright idea to up the kernel. (I can afford to 'play' on this machine.) the trouble is that booting into the gui causes touchpad and mouse to freeze at the login screen, requiring a reboot. I can boot via grub to the bash shell, get in as user and run 'sudo startx' or 'sudo kdm' and there's no problem. I've fished around but hoped someone would have a quick insight or fix. thanks. F. -- Felmon Davis Truth emerges more readily from error than from confusion. -- Francis Bacon

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never mind
by dep 22 Dec '13

22 Dec '13

of course, one minute after i hit send on the previous note the lightbulb went on and i thought of the proper google search term and now, apparently, the disappearing nameserver is, um, resolved. sorry. -- dep The shortest distance between you and playing great acoustic guitar: the great new instructional DVDs from Marjorie Thompson, available at www.MarjorieThompson.com

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TDE on freshly installed Debian 7.3.0 issue...
by sp2lob 22 Dec '13

22 Dec '13

Hello all, I would like to install Trinity Desktop Environment release Wheezy [Debian 7.0] (v3.5.13.2) on freshly installed Debian 7.3.0 (by means of 3 DVD installation discs). Architecture is amd64 with 64GB RAM. Followed verbatim Debian Trinity Repository Installation Instructions. I'm stuck at the very beginning with following error message: root@deb:~# apt-get install desktop-base-trinity kde-trinity Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information may help to resolve the situation: The following packages have unmet dependencies: kde-trinity : Depends: kde-core-trinity (>= 5:47) but it is not going to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. root@deb:~# I found some interesting posts on the list in regards of similar issue: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::5093 But, my question is whether it got solved finally? At this stage of system I would not tamper unnecessarily, basically just to avoid new install. Could you please provide some guidance, how to overcome presented issue? Best regards. Tom - sp2lob

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Itty-Bitty NIT
by johnsg＠dreamscape.com 19 Dec '13

19 Dec '13

Tis a nit about the website: To wit: In the list of Official Trinity Binaries we have Installation Instructions. And in those we have these really good, well written instructions, complete with the actual command line texts (thank you for those). But BUT BUUUT! The text in those gray boxes is so !@#$%^ small us old fogeys can't read it. And no, zooming in doesn't help (enough). It really looks elegent, but there is a certain degree of functional challenge here. Also, a lot of the lines seem to be close to the max length that the particular style can display without truncation. I recognize there are a bunch of tradeoffs here, so one possibility might be to have the HTML code repeat the grayed text above/below in a larger font? And yes this really is an itty-bitty nit. Thanks again for Trinity JohnSG

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BUG (Kubuntu 10.04) Control Center, user administration tool not loaded, python problem
by Uwe Brauer 16 Dec '13

16 Dec '13

Hello, For this is rather a serious bug, when trying to install the latest trinity over Kubuntu 10.04, the user administration tool is not loaded and I cannot create new user nor modify existing ones. I already sent a screenshot last Monday. Could somebody please respond? thanks Uwe Brauer

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A big "Thank you" to Trinity developers
by Jan Stolarek 15 Dec '13

15 Dec '13

For the last couple of months I've been pestering developers to package KBibTex for Trinity. I just noticed it's in the repo. Now I can finally upgrade my old OpenSUSE to Debian - a big thank you to all developers for being responsive to user requests! Janek

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user module is not loaded python problem
by Uwe Brauer 14 Dec '13

14 Dec '13

Hello I had this problem some time ago, and thought a simple link might work it is not the case. I attach a screenshot of the problem. thanks Uwe Brauer

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