Hi All,
Can someone tell me how to check, from TDE, if there are new packages available for updating (especially XWindows)? I only see the hermetic "kpackage" in my installation.
Should I go in gnome to check-update packages?
thank you
Dne st 9. ledna 2013 Patrick Serru napsal(a):
Hi All, Can someone tell me how to check, from TDE, if there are newpackages available for updating (especially XWindows)? I only see the hermetic "kpackage" in my installation.
Should I go in gnome to check-update packages?thank you
On Debian / Ubuntu you can use adept-notifier-trinity. I do not know whether it is available also for rpm based distributions.
Slavek --
Le mercredi 09 janvier 2013, Slávek Banko a écrit :
Dne st 9. ledna 2013 Patrick Serru napsal(a):
Hi All, Can someone tell me how to check, from TDE, if there are newpackages available for updating (especially XWindows)? I only see the hermetic "kpackage" in my installation.
Should I go in gnome to check-update packages?thank you
On Debian / Ubuntu you can use adept-notifier-trinity. I do not know whether it is available also for rpm based distributions.
Slavek
---------------------------- Thank you, Slávek
In a "su" Konsole, I tryed: bash: adept-notifier-trinity: commande inconnue... bash: adept-notifier: commande inconnue... bash: adept: commande inconnue...
Cheers, Patrick
Dne st 9. ledna 2013 Patrick Serru napsal(a):
Le mercredi 09 janvier 2013, Slávek Banko a écrit :
Dne st 9. ledna 2013 Patrick Serru napsal(a):
Hi All, Can someone tell me how to check, from TDE, if there are newpackages available for updating (especially XWindows)? I only see the hermetic "kpackage" in my installation.
Should I go in gnome to check-update packages?thank you
On Debian / Ubuntu you can use adept-notifier-trinity. I do not know whether it is available also for rpm based distributions.
Slavek
Thank you, Slávek In a "su" Konsole, I tryed:bash: adept-notifier-trinity: commande inconnue... bash: adept-notifier: commande inconnue... bash: adept: commande inconnue...
Cheers,Patrick
On Debian / Ubuntu this is the name of the package:
aptitude install adept-notifier-trinity
But as I see - you're currently on Fedora. So you will need to find out if it is available. I do not know if it can work with rpm.
Slavek --
On Wednesday 09 January 2013 7:23:17 am you wrote:
Dne st 9. ledna 2013 Patrick Serru napsal(a):
Hi All, Can someone tell me how to check, from TDE, if there are newpackages available for updating (especially XWindows)? I only see the hermetic "kpackage" in my installation.
Should I go in gnome to check-update packages?thank you
On Debian / Ubuntu you can use adept-notifier-trinity. I do not know whether it is available also for rpm based distributions.
Slavek
Thanks for the info. The adept-notify stuff is working. I was looking for a way for someone who knows zip , or less, about computers, could keep a TDE box current.
On 01/09/2013 08:19 AM, Patrick Serru wrote:
Can someone tell me how to check, from TDE, if there are new packagesavailable for updating (especially XWindows)?
I don't know if Fedora has apt, but if so, to check for updates:
apt-get update
Then to see and install the updates:
apt-get dist-upgrade
On 01/09/2013 08:49 AM, Patrick Serru wrote:
TDE is (for me) the best desktop alternative, but there are so many installation problems!
In several tries on several different distros, I've never successfully got a stable, completely working TDE installation. I've only been able to get it to work right by using one of the live CDs.
Le 09/01/2013 18:33, Dan Youngquist a écrit :
On 01/09/2013 08:19 AM, Patrick Serru wrote:
Can someone tell me how to check, from TDE, if there are new packagesavailable for updating (especially XWindows)?
I don't know if Fedora has apt, but if so, to check for updates:
apt-get update
Then to see and install the updates:
apt-get dist-upgrade
On 01/09/2013 08:49 AM, Patrick Serru wrote:
TDE is (for me) the best desktop alternative, but there are so many installation problems!
In several tries on several different distros, I've never successfully got a stable, completely working TDE installation. I've only been able to get it to work right by using one of the live CDs.
Hello, there is no apt-get in Fedora, and even if there was, the official repositories are not in APT format, so it would be useless. The "adept" program is designed for apt-get only, so I did not even built it on Fedora. Kpackage is usable with RPM packages, alas it lacks features that YUM provides.
So there is no good package manager for Fedora in Trinity. I suggest you install "yumex", it is in GTK but does not require the entire gnome.
Install with: yum install yumex
Francois
Le mercredi 09 janvier 2013, François ANDRIOT a écrit :
Le 09/01/2013 18:33, Dan Youngquist a écrit :
On 01/09/2013 08:19 AM, Patrick Serru wrote:
Can someone tell me how to check, from TDE, if there are newpackages available for updating (especially XWindows)?
I don't know if Fedora has apt, but if so, to check for updates:
apt-get update
Then to see and install the updates:
apt-get dist-upgrade
On 01/09/2013 08:49 AM, Patrick Serru wrote:
TDE is (for me) the best desktop alternative, but there are so many installation problems!
In several tries on several different distros, I've never successfully got a stable, completely working TDE installation. I've only been able to get it to work right by using one of the live CDs.
Hello, there is no apt-get in Fedora, and even if there was, the official repositories are not in APT format, so it would be useless. The "adept" program is designed for apt-get only, so I did not even built it on Fedora. Kpackage is usable with RPM packages, alas it lacks features that YUM provides.
So there is no good package manager for Fedora in Trinity. I suggest you install "yumex", it is in GTK but does not require the entire gnome.
Install with: yum install yumex
Francois
--------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi François,
I did install. It looks running well. I just dont know what to do with it at the moment :-) I'll wait for being a little less lost, to use it!
Thank you, Patrick
On Wednesday 09 January 2013 17:33:41 Dan Youngquist wrote:
In several tries on several different distros, I've never successfully got a stable, completely working TDE installation.
I now have four running on Squeeze for four different people, and, fingers crossed, it is stable. And no complaints about missing functionality.
It had better be stable! My reputation depends on it. ;-)
Lisi
Hi Lisi,
On Wednesday 09 January 2013 21:35:50 Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Wednesday 09 January 2013 17:33:41 Dan Youngquist wrote:
In several tries on several different distros, I've never successfully got a stable, completely working TDE installation.
I now have four running on Squeeze for four different people, and, fingers crossed, it is stable. And no complaints about missing functionality.
It had better be stable! My reputation depends on it. ;-)
Lisi
I'm running the PClinuxOS installed from the live CD made available by Alexandre Couture. My installation is definitely not stable ! I get occasional instances where the desktop becomes frozen, non of the clickable items respond. Sometimes mail in Kmail vanishes and sent mail copies either disapear or end up in the folder with the message I replied to, rather than in the sent folder. More rarely a downloaded item dissapears, it simply isn't in the download folder and I have to download it again.
So whilst it works and is far better than KDE4 there are some issues that need attention.
Replying to my own post.
On Wednesday 09 January 2013 22:05:36 Baron wrote:
I'm running the PClinuxOS installed from the live CD made available by Alexandre Couture. My installation is definitely not stable ! I get occasional instances where the desktop becomes frozen, non of the clickable items respond. Sometimes mail in Kmail vanishes and sent mail copies either disapear or end up in the folder with the message I replied to, rather than in the sent folder. More rarely a downloaded item dissapears, it simply isn't in the download folder and I have to download it again.
So whilst it works and is far better than KDE4 there are some issues that need attention.
I've just spotted another odd Kmail behaviour ! The copy of the mail that I just sent ended up in the folder with the message that I replied to, so I decided to move it into the correct (sent mail) folder by dragging and the message I replied to also got moved into the sent mail folder.
Very odd ! I've not seen that happen before.
On Wednesday 09 January 2013 22:05:36 Baron wrote:
I'm running the PClinuxOS installed from the live CD made available by Alexandre Couture. My installation is definitely not stable !
As I say, I am running Debian Squeeze. 2 instances of 3.5.13 (clients) and 2 of 3.5.13.2 (here at home). So far, I am very pleased with it.
One of the two clients had never used Linux before. So far, after about six months, she has hit one problem only - but it was just a setting that she couldn't find, although it was there and I was able to set it for her.
Alexandre's live CD is not "official" yet. Perhaps you are using facilities that Alexandre does not use, so has not polished. It is a marvellous facility to have given the community, but it is not fair to use it to say that TDE is never stable on anything.
Ubuntu and Debian appear to be the best supported (impression, not detailed analysis). Have you tried either of those? It sounds as though Wheezy and TDE is still not stable, so you would get better stability by sticking to Squeeze, though I advise using Slávek's repositories. Mutatis mutandis, I am sure that the same applies to Ubuntu (Kubuntu), but I am not up on that, so cannot express an opinion on which version is the best compromise between stable and up-to-date.
Lisi
Hi Lisi n all,
On Wednesday 09 January 2013 23:24:23 Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Wednesday 09 January 2013 22:05:36 Baron wrote:
I'm running the PClinuxOS installed from the live CD made available by Alexandre Couture. My installation is definitely not stable !
I have a couple of other friends using PClinuxOS installed from the live CD and so far neither have mentioned that they have had any problems. Actually that not quite true, one mentioned that his printer, a DeskJet 720 does'nt print, but that I suspect is a cups problem.
As I say, I am running Debian Squeeze. 2 instances of 3.5.13 (clients) and 2 of 3.5.13.2 (here at home). So far, I am very pleased with it.
Good ! I'm glad that you are pleased with TDE. A lot of people have put a great deal of hard work into it.
One of the two clients had never used Linux before. So far, after about six months, she has hit one problem only - but it was just a setting that she couldn't find, although it was there and I was able to set it for her.
Alexandre's live CD is not "official" yet. Perhaps you are using facilities that Alexandre does not use, so has not polished. It is a marvellous facility to have given the community, but it is not fair to use it to say that TDE is never stable on anything.
Note: I did say "My installation" ! Your comment is misleading and implies something that was not said...
My comments were simply based on my experience having, up to now, stuck with Open SuSE 11.1 and wanting to use a couple of applications that wouldn't run on it but do run quite satisfactorily on PClinuxOS.
I never saw any of the issues that I have reported whilst running Open SuSE. In fact I don't see any lockups running the PClinuxOS live CD.
Thanks to another user who kindly pointed out a setting in Kmail I think the issue with replies ending up in the wrong folder is down to me not knowing what setting and where to look for it.
Ubuntu and Debian appear to be the best supported (impression, not detailed analysis). Have you tried either of those? It sounds as though Wheezy and TDE is still not stable, so you would get better stability by sticking to Squeeze, though I advise using Slávek's repositories. Mutatis mutandis, I am sure that the same applies to Ubuntu (Kubuntu), but I am not up on that, so cannot express an opinion on which version is the best compromise between stable and up-to-date.
Lisi
The other distributions you mention I've only tried the live CD's.
On Thursday 10 January 2013 22:23:32 Baron wrote:
Alexandre's live CD is not "official" yet. Perhaps you are using facilities that Alexandre does not use, so has not polished. It is a marvellous facility to have given the community, but it is not fair to use it to say that TDE is never stable on anything.
Note: I did say "My installation" ! Your comment is misleading and implies something that was not said...
It _was_ said, but not by you. Sorry. Dan said it:
On Wednesday 09 January 2013 17:33:41 Dan Youngquist wrote:
In several tries on several different distros, I've never successfully got a stable, completely working TDE installation. I've only been able to get it to work right by using one of the live CDs.
This was really what I was answering. It was careless to give the impression that you had said it. So my reply applies to Dan. Sorry, Baron.
Lisi
Hi Lisi,
On Thursday 10 January 2013 23:30:49 Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Thursday 10 January 2013 22:23:32 Baron wrote:
Alexandre's live CD is not "official" yet. Perhaps you are using facilities that Alexandre does not use, so has not polished. It is a marvellous facility to have given the community, but it is not fair to use it to say that TDE is never stable on anything.
Note: I did say "My installation" ! Your comment is misleading and implies something that was not said...
It _was_ said, but not by you. Sorry. Dan said it:
No problem. :-)
On Wednesday 09 January 2013 17:33:41 Dan Youngquist wrote:
In several tries on several different distros, I've never successfully got a stable, completely working TDE installation. I've only been able to get it to work right by using one of the live CDs.
I never saw that post.
This was really what I was answering. It was careless to give the impression that you had said it. So my reply applies to Dan. Sorry, Baron.
Lisi
Forget it ! Lets move on.
Le mercredi 09 janvier 2013, Baron a écrit :
Hi Lisi,
On Wednesday 09 January 2013 21:35:50 Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Wednesday 09 January 2013 17:33:41 Dan Youngquist wrote:
In several tries on several different distros, I've never successfully got a stable, completely working TDE installation.
I now have four running on Squeeze for four different people, and, fingers crossed, it is stable. And no complaints about missing functionality.
It had better be stable! My reputation depends on it. ;-)
Lisi
I'm running the PClinuxOS installed from the live CD made available by Alexandre Couture. My installation is definitely not stable ! I get occasional instances where the desktop becomes frozen, non of the clickable items respond. Sometimes mail in Kmail vanishes and sent mail copies either disapear or end up in the folder with the message I replied to, rather than in the sent folder. More rarely a downloaded item dissapears, it simply isn't in the download folder and I have to download it again.
So whilst it works and is far better than KDE4 there are some issues that need attention.
I am scared, reading that... There is only 1 source of source files, I suppose. Until now, I incriminated some Grub, X and others "low level" softwares (but not hardware!). But what to think when it is KMail that bugs???
Related to KMail, I mention just now the nice feature that is the local date representation corresponding to the sender, while headers are "fantasy represented headers". I see that the backgroud color is related to the time of the day. But in the same time, I can see a little bug representing the XFace. The forground and background colors change from one click to another on the same mail (see attached pictures). I noted too that in the french version, there are two Ctrl+S in the menus: - "File" (Fichier) menu for the "Save as" (Enregistrer sous...) item, and in the - "Edition" (Édition) menu for the "Find" or "Search" (Chercher...) item.
I'm currently using Fedora17 + TDE. There are plenty of small pebbles in my shoes, but I can live daily with it. It would be the distribution I would suggest yet, for a complete installation. But I do not give up with Ubuntu, trying from KUbu 10.10-TDE (downloaded on 16/08/2011), as suggested and with the support of Slavek.
Cheers, Patrick
On Thursday 10 of January 2013 05:11:35 Patrick Serru wrote:
I'm currently using Fedora17 + TDE. There are plenty of small pebbles in my shoes, but I can live daily with it. It would be the distribution I would suggest yet, for a complete installation. But I do not give up with Ubuntu, trying from KUbu 10.10-TDE (downloaded on 16/08/2011), as suggested and with the support of Slavek.
Cheers, Patrick
I assumed that you use the LiveCD for TDE on Ubuntu 12.04 (Precise) and from this you upgrade to 12.10 (Quantal).
http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/cdimages/thirdparty/ubunt...
Slavek --
Le jeudi 10 janvier 2013, Slávek Banko a écrit :
On Thursday 10 of January 2013 05:11:35 Patrick Serru wrote:
I'm currently using Fedora17 + TDE. There are plenty of small pebbles in my shoes, but I can live daily with it. It would be the distribution I would suggest yet, for a complete installation. But I do not give up with Ubuntu, trying from KUbu 10.10-TDE (downloaded on 16/08/2011), as suggested and with the support of Slavek.
Cheers, Patrick
I assumed that you use the LiveCD for TDE on Ubuntu 12.04 (Precise) and from this you upgrade to 12.10 (Quantal).
http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/cdimages...
Slavek
---------------------------------- Hi Slávek,
I was surprised, but as this version was the most stable I ever seen... OK: I will try that very soon… Got to download it, first.
Cheers, Patrick
On 01/10/2013 12:47 AM, Slávek Banko wrote:
I assumed that you use the LiveCD for TDE on Ubuntu 12.04 (Precise) and from this you upgrade to 12.10 (Quantal). http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/cdimages/thirdparty/ubunt...
This reminds me, I posted some weeks ago and got no reply. The 32-bit ISO won't boot for me because it says it needs PAE. Is there a chance you'll make a version that will run on a machine without PAE, or is there some way to make this one work?
Dan Youngquist wrote:
On 01/10/2013 12:47 AM, Slávek Banko wrote:
I assumed that you use the LiveCD for TDE on Ubuntu 12.04 (Precise) and from this you upgrade to 12.10 (Quantal). http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/cdimages/thirdparty/ubunt...
This reminds me, I posted some weeks ago and got no reply. The 32-bit ISO won't boot for me because it says it needs PAE. Is there a chance you'll make a version that will run on a machine without PAE, or is there some way to make this one work?
As far as I know the latest Ubuntu release is PAE-only, full stop :(
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2012-May/035176.html
It is apparently possible to update from 12.04 and thus keep the old kernel, or one could compile a new kernel without PAE.
Le mercredi 09 janvier 2013, Dan Youngquist a écrit :
On 01/09/2013 08:19 AM, Patrick Serru wrote:
Can someone tell me how to check, from TDE, if there are newpackages available for updating (especially XWindows)?
I don't know if Fedora has apt, but if so, to check for updates: apt-get update
the respons is bash: apt-get: commande inconnue... (unknown command)
On 01/09/2013 08:49 AM, Patrick Serru wrote:
TDE is (for me) the best desktop alternative, but there are so many installation problems!
In several tries on several different distros, I've never successfully got a stable, completely working TDE installation. I've only been able to get it to work right by using one of the live CDs.
I thank you so much, Dan. I can stop wondering if my head is going too bad. Real tanks.
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