I just got my new ThinkCentre in the mail - I've just installed debian on it (not a chace yet to install trinity). I'll report back with results.

On 15 November 2012 09:04, Janek S. fremenzone@poczta.onet.pl wrote:

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My question is: OpenSuse is now made so low that I MUST DROP this distribution. Direct me to what?

Yeah, I had to drop openSuse about 2 months ago since 12.2 with KDE4 is unusable for me. I switched to Debian Squeeze (with Trinity of course) and am very happy with that. There were some minor problems but I managed to solve most of them.

Janek

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I prefer to use Debian stable (now Squeeze) combined with packages from backports - kernel and Xorg to better support the new hardware.

Clearly the OP has old hardware - 6 years old ;)

Janek

Le jeudi 15 novembre 2012, Slávek Banko a écrit :

Dne čt 15. listopadu 2012 Calvin Morrison napsal(a):

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I just got my new ThinkCentre in the mail - I've just installed debian on it (not a chace yet to install trinity). I'll report back with results.

On 15 November 2012 09:04, Janek S. fremenzone@poczta.onet.plwrote:

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My question is: OpenSuse is now made so low that I MUST DROP this distribution. Direct me to what?

Yeah, I had to drop openSuse about 2 months ago since 12.2 with KDE4 is unusable for me. I switched to Debian Squeeze (with Trinity of course) and am very happy with that. There were some minor problems but I managed to solve most of them.

Janek

I prefer to use Debian stable (now Squeeze) combined with packages from backports - kernel and Xorg to better support the new hardware.

Slávek

Hi Slávek,

Thank you for the answers (Janek & Slavek). I downloaded "debian-6.0.6-amd64-netinst.iso" then started. Problem: it is not possible to mount filesystems reiserfs! Almost all my partitions are reiserfs. So once again, I left!

Is there a utility to convert a reiserfs partition to an ext4 partition?

Tx

On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 11:54:59AM -0500, Patrick Serru wrote:

I downloaded "debian-6.0.6-amd64-netinst.iso" then started. Problem: it is not possible to mount filesystems reiserfs! Almost all my partitions are reiserfs. So once again, I left!

   Is there a utility to convert a reiserfs partition to an ext4 

partition?

If there were, it might be risky to use it.

On a system that can handle both, I would just mount the reiserfs partition and an empty ext4 partition on another disk with enough space to hold the content, and do a deep recursive copy from the reiserfs to the ext4fs. And when complete, do some checks to make sure the files were duplicated properly.

Do that for every reiserfs partition.

Maybe there is a more modern way, but I like simple.

OpenSuse, in version 12.2, still offers and supports KDE3!

Well, they provide a repository with KDE3 packages, but I would be cautious to call it "supporting". More and more features break and simply don't work. Seems that the code is not updated to wokr with latest PolicyKit. I tried installing Suse 12.2 with KDE3 but gave up after two days when I realized I wasn't even halfway done with fixing serious issues like kpowersave and wireless network not working under KDE3.

Janek

Le jeudi 15 novembre 2012, Francois Andriot a écrit :

Le 15/11/2012 12:54, Patrick Serru a écrit :

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The last distribution tryed (just now) was Fedora-17 (07/2012), a live TDE CD that is doing the best by far. But here, at the time of installation:

• Unable to change (select any other) disk to install the boot loader
• Can not format in an other format than ext4 (no ReiserFS).
• Alert at end of installation: "Can not install the boot loader".

The cd that I used to boot one of my systems using GRUB1 do not know Ext4. Consequently to boot Fedora is IMPOSSIBLE!

Hello,

It's true that the Fedora installer embedded with the LiveCD is minimalistic. Currently it cannot install on reiserfs, but I guess it's only because the reiserfs-utils are not embedded in the LiveCD. I will have a look at this. Alternatively you can install Fedora 17 with the official Fedora DVD, hoping it supports reiserfs, then install TDE from the internet repository.

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Finally, I feel very overtaken by my readings in this list for the USERS, which speaks so much of INSTALLATION SCRIPTS. And if I well understand, a lot of things changed in Linux: XWindow, SytV init, Grub, give up of reiserfs for Ext4, KDE4& Gnome3, sound system, etc, etc…

My question is: OpenSuse is now made so low that I MUST DROP this distribution. Direct me to what?

Thank you very much for your work and help.

If you really want to stick with openSuse 11.4 and TDE, I can build TDE 3.5.13.1 … It should not be complicated since I already built for 12.2 .

Francois

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Hi all, hello François

I must admit that it is not easy to have to re-learn everything. I do not know Debian :-/ . I want towards Debian or Fedora. Oss 10 + Yast was so easy!

There are some questions I ask in this list: how to take a screen resolution higher IN CONSOLE MODE? My screen seems about 40 lines of 80 columns at startup instead of the usual ~ 150 columns (kernel parameters at boot: vga = 0x31A)!

Graphics mode was achieved by "startx" and not "init 5" ... How do I log in graphic mode (TDM?). While Trinity was started, back on a console (Ctrl + Alt + F3, for example), the keyboard is not "listening" except Ctrl + Alt + Del. Fortunately, because my screen did not like the frequencies used by XOrg in 1280x1024: black-out! (-: See, Calvin). I guess I have to visit XOrg to find out how to do this ...

I can not ask all my questions about Debian on this list. It does not lack, however!

Read you soon!

Le vendredi 16 novembre 2012, Francois Andriot a écrit :

Le 16/11/2012 19:19, Patrick Serru a écrit :

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  Hi all, hello François

  I must admit that it is not easy to have to re-learn everything. I

do not know Debian :-/ . I want towards Debian or Fedora. Oss 10 + Yast was so easy!

  There are some questions I ask in this list: how to take a screen

resolution higher IN CONSOLE MODE? My screen seems about 40 lines of 80 columns at startup instead of the usual ~ 150 columns (kernel parameters at boot: vga = 0x31A)!

  Graphics mode was achieved by "startx" and not "init 5" ... How do

I log in graphic mode (TDM?). While Trinity was started, back on a console (Ctrl + Alt + F3, for example), the keyboard is not "listening" except Ctrl + Alt + Del. Fortunately, because my screen did not like the frequencies used by XOrg in 1280x1024: black-out! (-: See, Calvin). I guess I have to visit XOrg to find out how to do this ...

I can not ask all my questions about Debian on this list. It does not lack, however!

    Read you soon!

Hello, which OSS version were you running exactly ? 10.x or 11.x ?

About the console video mode, I think the "vga" option and framebuffer stuff are obsoleted by the "KMS" feature. KMS is supposed to switch your console to the best resolution available. If your computer does not support it, I think you can disable it by adding the "nomodeset" kernel parameter in grub.conf . If you do so, the "vga=" parameter should work again.

As you seem to already know, the KDM automatic startup should be enabled if you use the correct runlevel. In Fedora, in order to have Trinity's kdm started automatically in runlevel 5, you must add a variable in a config file.

In file (it does not exist by default): /etc/sysconfig/desktop Add the following line (without spaces): DISPLAYMANAGER=/opt/trinity/bin/kdm Then restart the service with command: service dm restart

There must be a corresponding setting in Debian but I do not know it.

Francois

--------------------------------------------------------------------- Passing by Debian before installing Fedora17: ****************************** Slávek wrote 50 times: REBOOT after the packet modification. ****************************** Thus, the console is correct, and now the login screen is Trinity's. But X is always wrong! ---------------------------------------------------------------------

François: I speak of 10.3 because it is the last distribution I installed "normally". I installed the 11.1 that I currently use in an emergency. I do not know because I have not gone into detail, because its use is only temporary.

Installing Fedora 17 went well. I noticed the similarity of the installer, with that of Debian. I ordered a minimum installation. So, I had to look for wget! Thus, the line indicating how to search with Yum had been helpful.

Once many Trinity packages installed, I rebooted :-) But this went wrong and it ended up with a "Ctrl D to continue". Usually, I get a "Ctrl D to reboot" when I'm wrong when editing /etc/fstab. Look at fstab: Ha horror: UUID while! I wonder how humans can deal with theses UUIDs… I concluded that administrators must identify the disks otherwise. Anyway, I left things such as the installer left it. I try a "startx": X has not started and I do not know why.

I do not know the tool to add software (equivalent to yast). Too bad, because I have installed a small window manager and Firefox. I will search on Internet…

In fact, I came back here to read the mail:

In file (it does not exist by default): /etc/sysconfig/desktop Add the following line (without spaces): DISPLAYMANAGER=/opt/trinity/bin/kdm Then restart the service with command: service dm restart

I'm going to try that. I am not optimistic! If it still does not work, I re-install down from the "Trinity-F17 live CD" on a mini partition, and then copy it all files from this mini partition on the "big" Fedora! It will boot, I hope! And if that does not work: I go back to Windows!

Thank you for all, Patrick

Le vendredi 16 novembre 2012, Werner Joss a écrit :

Am Freitag, 16. November 2012, 13:19:10 schrieb Patrick Serru:

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   Graphics mode was achieved by "startx" and not "init 5"… How do I 

log in graphic mode (TDM?)

try dpkg-reconfigure tdm (or dpkg-reconfigure kdm)

werner

Thank you Werner,

Let's close this thread, ever if I did not install Fedora 17 or Debian. This is not a TDE probem.

Windows 7 or 8, noooo. Rather suicide!

Thanks to all, Patrick