28 Feb
2023
28 Feb
'23
4:28 p.m.
Where is the notification popup timeout stored?
I have several cron jobs that have been running for years with
notify-send --expire-time=0. The popups remain active until explicitly
acknowledged, but in TDE the popups timeout at about 6 to 7 seconds and
close.
Does TDE ignore notify-send timeout parameters?
Is there a preferred way to create persistent notifications in TDE?
Thanks again.
28 Feb
28 Feb
4:49 p.m.
On Tuesday 28 February 2023 06:28:57 pm Darrell Anderson via tde-users wrote:
Where is the notification popup timeout stored?
I have several cron jobs that have been running for years with
notify-send --expire-time=0. The popups remain active until explicitly
acknowledged, but in TDE the popups timeout at about 6 to 7 seconds and
close.
Does TDE ignore notify-send timeout parameters?
Is there a preferred way to create persistent notifications in TDE?
I'm not sure TDE has a notify-send? Or at least mine is installed form
Debian...
michael@local [~]# which notify-send
/usr/bin/notify-send
michael@local [~]# ll /opt/trinity/bin/not*
ls: cannot access '/opt/trinity/bin/not*': No such file or directory
michael@local [~]# aptitude show notify-send
E: Unable to locate package notify-send
michael@local [~]# dpkg -S /usr/bin/notify-send
libnotify-bin: /usr/bin/notify-send
michael@local [~]# aptitude show libnotify-bin
Package: libnotify-bin
Version: 0.7.7-4
State: installed
Automatically installed: yes
Priority: optional
Section: utils
Maintainer: Debian GNOME Maintainers
<pkg-gnome-maintainers(a)lists.alioth.debian.org>
Architecture: amd64
Uncompressed Size: 46.1 k
Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.4), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.26), libnotify4 (>= 0.7.3)
Conflicts: libnotify-bin:i386
Description: sends desktop notifications to a notification daemon (Utilities)
A library that sends desktop notifications to a notification daemon, as
defined in the Desktop Notifications spec. These
notifications can be used to inform the user about an event or display some
form of information without getting in the user's way.
This package contains the binary which sends the notification.
Tags: interface::commandline, role::program, scope::utility
5:07 p.m.
On 2/28/23 6:49 PM, Michael via tde-users wrote:
On Tuesday 28 February 2023 06:28:57 pm Darrell
Anderson via tde-users wrote:
The point is TDE is closing the popup despite the --expire-time=0
parameter. I never had this happen in other DEs. Is there a way to get
TDE to honor expire-time=0 and not close the popup?
Bug?
Where is the notification popup timeout stored?
I have several cron jobs that have been running for years with
notify-send --expire-time=0. The popups remain active until explicitly
acknowledged, but in TDE the popups timeout at about 6 to 7 seconds and
close.
Does TDE ignore notify-send timeout parameters?
Is there a preferred way to create persistent notifications in TDE?
I'm not sure TDE has a notify-send? Or at least mine is installed form
Debian...
5:25 p.m.
On Tuesday 28 February 2023 07:07:45 pm Darrell Anderson via tde-users wrote:
The point is TDE is closing the popup despite the --expire-time=0
parameter. I never had this happen in other DEs. Is there a way to get
TDE to honor expire-time=0 and not close the popup?
Bug?
Don't know ;0 Please copy/paste the command you're using and I'll run it here
to see if it's doing the same thing.
Best,
Michael
On 2/28/23 6:49 PM, Michael via tde-users wrote:
> On Tuesday 28 February 2023 06:28:57 pm Darrell Anderson via tde-users
wrote:
Where is the notification popup timeout stored?
I have several cron jobs that have been running for years with
notify-send --expire-time=0. The popups remain active until explicitly
acknowledged, but in TDE the popups timeout at about 6 to 7 seconds and
close.
Does TDE ignore notify-send timeout parameters?
Is there a preferred way to create persistent notifications in TDE?
I'm not sure TDE has a notify-send? Or at least mine is installed form
Debian...
6:04 p.m.
On 2/28/23 7:25 PM, Michael via tde-users wrote:
Don't know ;0 Please copy/paste the command
you're using and I'll run it here
to see if it's doing the same thing.
notify-send --expire-time=0 "Test" "This is a test"
Looks like the source of the problem is the dbus-notification package.
Without the notification-daemon-tde running the notify-send command hangs.
Trying different expire-time timeouts makes no difference here. The
popup always closes at about 6 to 7 seconds.
6:42 p.m.
On Tuesday 28 February 2023 08:04:06 pm Darrell Anderson via tde-users wrote:
On 2/28/23 7:25 PM, Michael via tde-users wrote:
Hmmm, working here. e.g. It's been open for the last couple minutes. From a
Konsole shell and different durations work as well. Guessing the bug is
specific to what distribution you're running?
Here's mine for reference.
PRETTY_NAME="Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster)"
Kernel: 4.19.0-22-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64
Desktop: Trinity R14.0.13
Distro: MX-19.4_x64 patito feo May 31 2020
Or, what shell are you using? From man:
-t, --expire-time=TIME
The duration, in milliseconds, for the notification to appear
on screen. (Ubuntu's Notify OSD and GNOME Shell
both ignore this parameter.)
Since you said it's running from cron, maybe try adding this to the line above
the command?
SHELL="/bin/bash"
Well, that's what gets auto-added to my CentOS servers, might work?
# # #
That's it for my knowledge, if the above doesn't help, then do open a bug
report (as it should be working).
Best,
Michael
Don't know ;0 Please copy/paste the command
you're using and I'll run it
here to see if it's doing the same thing.
notify-send --expire-time=0 "Test" "This is a test"
Looks like the source of the problem is the dbus-notification package.
Without the notification-daemon-tde running the notify-send command hangs.
Trying different expire-time timeouts makes no difference here. The
popup always closes at about 6 to 7 seconds.
10:01 p.m.
On 2/28/23 8:42 PM, Michael via tde-users wrote:
Hmmm, working here. e.g. It's been open for the
last couple minutes. From a
Konsole shell and different durations work as well. Guessing the bug is
specific to what distribution you're running?
Do you have any other desktop environments installed?
10:44 p.m.
On Tue February 28 2023 18:04:06 Darrell Anderson via tde-users wrote:
notify-send --expire-time=0 "Test"
"This is a test"
I tried this with --expire-time=0 and also with --expire-time=100000
and with other values. dbus-monitor shows the integer in the message
but the time on screen always seems to be around six seconds.
TDE version: R14.0.13
Distribution: Debian GNU/Linux 11.6 (bullseye)
Hardware: amd64
I don't know whether TDE is intended to ignore the timeout as Gnome
does or whether this is a bug.
--Mike
11:02 p.m.
On 3/1/23 12:44 AM, Mike Bird via tde-users wrote:
On Tue February 28 2023 18:04:06 Darrell Anderson via
tde-users wrote:
Thank you for testing. I am not a coder but I walked through the
kdbusnotification cpp file and looks like this daemon contacts the TDE
notify client. My guess is the notify client is timing out at 6-7 seconds.
I do not know if kdbusnotification is passing the expire-time
information on to knotify client.
notify-send --expire-time=0 "Test"
"This is a test"
I tried this with --expire-time=0 and also with --expire-time=100000
and with other values. dbus-monitor shows the integer in the message
but the time on screen always seems to be around six seconds.
TDE version: R14.0.13
Distribution: Debian GNU/Linux 11.6 (bullseye)
Hardware: amd64
I don't know whether TDE is intended to ignore the timeout as Gnome
does or whether this is a bug. 
1 Mar
1 Mar
6:29 a.m.
On 2023/03/01 04:02 PM, Darrell Anderson via tde-users wrote:
On 3/1/23 12:44 AM, Mike Bird via tde-users wrote:
This sounds like a bug that we should look at.
notify-send is not part of TDE, but even a notification sent directly using d-feet
displays the same behavior.
Darrell, can you file a bug report for this? If it is an easy fix, I will make it for
R14.1.0, but I will need to
investigate first.
Cheers
Michele
On Tue February 28 2023 18:04:06 Darrell Anderson
via tde-users wrote:
Thank you for testing. I am not a coder but I walked through the kdbusnotification cpp
file and looks like this daemon
contacts the TDE notify client. My guess is the notify client is timing out at 6-7
seconds.
I do not know if kdbusnotification is passing the expire-time information on to knotify
client.
notify-send --expire-time=0 "Test"
"This is a test"
I tried this with --expire-time=0 and also with --expire-time=100000
and with other values. dbus-monitor shows the integer in the message
but the time on screen always seems to be around six seconds.
TDE version: R14.0.13
Distribution: Debian GNU/Linux 11.6 (bullseye)
Hardware: amd64
I don't know whether TDE is intended to ignore the timeout as Gnome
does or whether this is a bug.
8:35 p.m.
On 3/1/23 8:29 AM, Michele Calgaro via tde-users wrote:
This sounds like a bug that we should look at.
notify-send is not part of TDE, but even a notification sent directly
using d-feet displays the same behavior.
Darrell, can you file a bug report for this? If it is an easy fix, I
will make it for R14.1.0, but I will need to investigate first.
Bug report 193 filed:
https://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/gitea/TDE/tdelibs/issues/193
The reason I asked if other DEs are installed is dbus does not seem
designed to be particular about which notification daemon to launch.
Even if kdbusnotification is not installed, another DE notification
daemon will suffice as far as dbus is concerned.
I get persistent popups when launched through one of the other DE
notification daemons and kdbusnotification removed.
Right now that is my work-around.
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