7 Sep
2022
7 Sep
'22
4:03 p.m.
Hi Gianluca,
On Wed, Sep 7, 2022 at 15:15 (-0700), Gianluca Interlandi wrote:
Thanks Jim for the tip on "flyspell mode".
Glad to help out.
What about paragraph justification? I remember it was
Ctrl-J?
There is an emacs command "fill-paragraph", which is in the "fill"
package. I have it bound to Alt-Q (which I think is the default
binding, not Ctrl-J) but you can easily re-bind it to any key sequence
you like. (Or, if for some reason you want to do it, you can bind any
command to as many key sequences as you like.)
Can you set a specific line length, like in gvim I had
set 93
characters per line?
The above paragraph was wrapped automagically according to my setting
of "fill-column", which I have set to 70 for email messages.
If you want paragraphs justified, you can give an argument to
fill-paragraph. For example, if I copy the above paragraph and type
Ctrl-U Alt-Q, I get
There is an emacs command "fill-paragraph", which is in the
"fill"
package. I have it bound to Alt-Q (which I think is the default
binding, not Ctrl-J) but you can easily re-bind it to any key sequence
you like. (Or, if for some reason you want to do it, you can bind any
command to as many key sequences as you like.)
Whether you like those results better than ragged-right is up to you,
of course.
Cheers.
Jim
7 Sep
7 Sep
4:18 p.m.
New subject: gvim with GTK3 in OpenSUSE 15.3
Hi Jim,
Whether you like those results better than
ragged-right is up to you,
of course.
I prefer "flush left" (not block mode), so the first example you gave. But
I had also set gvim to not add an extra space after the period. I'm sure
there is a way to set this also in emacs.
Gianluca
On Wed, 7 Sep 2022, Jim wrote:
> Hi Gianluca,
>
> On Wed, Sep 7, 2022 at 15:15 (-0700), Gianluca Interlandi wrote:
>
>> Thanks Jim for the tip on "flyspell mode".
>
> Glad to help out.
>
>> What about paragraph justification? I remember it was Ctrl-J?
>
> There is an emacs command "fill-paragraph", which is in the
"fill"
> package. I have it bound to Alt-Q (which I think is the default
> binding, not Ctrl-J) but you can easily re-bind it to any key sequence
> you like. (Or, if for some reason you want to do it, you can bind any
> command to as many key sequences as you like.)
>
>> Can you set a specific line length, like in gvim I had set 93
>> characters per line?
>
> The above paragraph was wrapped automagically according to my setting
> of "fill-column", which I have set to 70 for email messages.
>
>
> If you want paragraphs justified, you can give an argument to
> fill-paragraph. For example, if I copy the above paragraph and type
> Ctrl-U Alt-Q, I get
>
> There is an emacs command "fill-paragraph", which is in the
"fill"
> package. I have it bound to Alt-Q (which I think is the default
> binding, not Ctrl-J) but you can easily re-bind it to any key sequence
> you like. (Or, if for some reason you want to do it, you can bind any
> command to as many key sequences as you like.)
>
Whether you like those results better than
ragged-right is up to you,
of course.
>
> Cheers.
>
> Jim
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Department of Bioengineering
University of Washington, Seattle WA U.S.A.
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4:27 p.m.
New subject: gvim with GTK3 in OpenSUSE 15.3
Hi Gianluca,
On Wed, Sep 7, 2022 at 16:18 (-0700), Gianluca Interlandi wrote:
Hi Jim,
> Whether you like those results better than
ragged-right is up to you,
> of course.
I prefer "flush left" (not block mode),
When you used "justified", I incorrectly thought "filled". My bad.
so the first example you gave. But I had also set gvim
to not add an
extra space after the period. I'm sure there is a way to set this
also in emacs.
I re-filled your paragraph above with fill-paragraph, and, as you see,
there are not two spaces after the periods. There may be some setting
which preserves two spaces if the paragraph already has two, but
doesn't otherwise put two. So again, that should not be a problem.
Emacs (for better or worse) is pretty much infinitely customize-able.
Sometimes it can be difficult to find out what needs to be customized,
but I suspect you would have to have some truly pathological text
editing needs in order to find something that isn't easy (easy once
you know how, anyway) in emacs.
Cheers.
Jim
4:48 p.m.
New subject: gvim with GTK3 in OpenSUSE 15.3
Hi Jim,
Thanks a lot! I used xemacs a long time ago. But at some point there was a
problem with it and I'm not sure it is still being developed? So I
searched for a different editor and landed on gvim. I don't mind trying
out a new editor now and going back to emacs-like, or emacs itself.
Gianluca
On Wed, 7 Sep 2022, Jim wrote:
Hi Gianluca,
On Wed, Sep 7, 2022 at 16:18 (-0700), Gianluca Interlandi wrote:
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Gianluca Interlandi, PhD gianluca(a)u.washington.edu
+1 (206) 685 4435
http://gianluca.today/
Department of Bioengineering
University of Washington, Seattle WA U.S.A.
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Hi Jim,
> Whether you like those results better than
ragged-right is up to you,
> of course.
I prefer "flush left" (not block mode),
When you used "justified", I incorrectly thought "filled". My bad.
so the first example you gave. But I had also set
gvim to not add an
extra space after the period. I'm sure there is a way to set this
also in emacs.
I re-filled your paragraph above with fill-paragraph, and, as you see,
there are not two spaces after the periods. There may be some setting
which preserves two spaces if the paragraph already has two, but
doesn't otherwise put two. So again, that should not be a problem.
Emacs (for better or worse) is pretty much infinitely customize-able.
Sometimes it can be difficult to find out what needs to be customized,
but I suspect you would have to have some truly pathological text
editing needs in order to find something that isn't easy (easy once
you know how, anyway) in emacs.
Cheers.
Jim
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5:31 p.m.
New subject: gvim with GTK3 in OpenSUSE 15.3
Hi Gianluca,
On Wed, Sep 7, 2022 at 16:48 (-0700), Gianluca Interlandi wrote:
Thanks a lot! I used xemacs a long time ago. But at
some point
there was a problem with it and I'm not sure it is still being
developed?
I don't think it is still being developed, but I could be wrong. I've
never used xemacs, and I don't recall what the point of someone
forking gnu emacs was.
So I searched for a different editor and landed on
gvim. I don't
mind trying out a new editor now and going back to emacs-like, or
emacs itself.
I used vi long before I started using emacs, and I've only played with
vim and gvim a little bit, but I do appreciate the improvements.
Still, I prefer emacs, but talking about that too much could sound
like the opening shot in an editor war. :-)
Cheers.
Jim
8 Sep
8 Sep
3:05 p.m.
New subject: gvim with GTK3 in OpenSUSE 15.3
The other issue I'm having with OpenSUSE 15.3 is that xdvi no longer
displays figures in a .dvi document (.dvi is the result of compiling a
.tex document). I can use okular to display the .dvi document, but I miss
how fast xdvi is. Can emacs also display .dvi documents? Are there any
other fast viewers for .dvi documents?
Thanks,
Gianluca
On Wed, 7 Sep 2022, Jim wrote:
Hi Gianluca,
On Wed, Sep 7, 2022 at 16:48 (-0700), Gianluca Interlandi wrote:
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+1 (206) 685 4435
http://gianluca.today/
Department of Bioengineering
University of Washington, Seattle WA U.S.A.
-----------------------------------------------------
Thanks a lot! I used xemacs a long time ago. But
at some point
there was a problem with it and I'm not sure it is still being
developed?
I don't think it is still being developed, but I could be wrong. I've
never used xemacs, and I don't recall what the point of someone
forking gnu emacs was.
So I searched for a different editor and landed
on gvim. I don't
mind trying out a new editor now and going back to emacs-like, or
emacs itself.
I used vi long before I started using emacs, and I've only played with
vim and gvim a little bit, but I do appreciate the improvements.
Still, I prefer emacs, but talking about that too much could sound
like the opening shot in an editor war. :-)
Cheers.
Jim
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4:52 p.m.
New subject: gvim with GTK3 in OpenSUSE 15.3
Hi Gianluca,
See below.
On Thu, Sep 8, 2022 at 15:05 (-0700), Gianluca Interlandi wrote:
The other issue I'm having with OpenSUSE 15.3 is
that xdvi no longer
displays figures in a .dvi document (.dvi is the result of compiling a .tex
document).
?
Do you mean xdvi does not work at all? Or that some content (text?)
is displayed and not other (image?) content? If so, can you attach a
concrete example to your next message?
I can use okular to display the .dvi document, but I
miss how fast
xdvi is.
It is fast, no doubt.
Can emacs also display .dvi documents? Are there any
other fast
viewers for .dvi documents?
I don't recall ever having seen anything to display .dvi files in
emacs, so I just took a quick look. There are some packages that
convert .dvi files to .png files and display those, but I doubt that
you would find that faster than okular. On my system okular seems
pretty fast (I looked at
.../texlive/2021/texmf-dist/source/fontinst/base/fisource.dvi which is
224 pages and there was no laggyness I could detect, okular seemed
more or less as fast as xdvi).
Perhaps there is something wrong with your openSUSE ?
Cheers.
Jim
5:22 p.m.
New subject: gvim with GTK3 in OpenSUSE 15.3
On Thu, 8 Sep 2022, Jim wrote:
Hi Gianluca,
See below.
On Thu, Sep 8, 2022 at 15:05 (-0700), Gianluca Interlandi wrote:
Text is displayed correctly. However, images are not shown, just a white
area where the image would be. I attach an example here.
The other issue I'm having with OpenSUSE 15.3
is that xdvi no longer
displays figures in a .dvi document (.dvi is the result of compiling a .tex
document).
?
Do you mean xdvi does not work at all? Or that some content (text?)
is displayed and not other (image?) content? If so, can you attach a
concrete example to your next message? Perhaps there is something wrong with your openSUSE ?
Why do you think so? I don't have any other issues besides xdvi not
showing images and gvim being slow.
Gianluca
>> I can use okular to display the .dvi document, but I miss how fast xdvi
>> is.
>
> It is fast, no doubt.
>
>> Can emacs also display .dvi documents? Are there any other fast
>> viewers for .dvi documents?
>
> I don't recall ever having seen anything to display .dvi files in
> emacs, so I just took a quick look. There are some packages that
> convert .dvi files to .png files and display those, but I doubt that
> you would find that faster than okular. On my system okular seems
> pretty fast (I looked at
> .../texlive/2021/texmf-dist/source/fontinst/base/fisource.dvi which is
> 224 pages and there was no laggyness I could detect, okular seemed
> more or less as fast as xdvi).
>
Perhaps there is something wrong with your openSUSE ?
>
> Cheers.
> Jim
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+1 (206) 685 4435
http://gianluca.today/
Department of Bioengineering
University of Washington, Seattle WA U.S.A.
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5:36 p.m.
New subject: gvim with GTK3 in OpenSUSE 15.3
Gianluca,
are you able to attach the actual dvi file (or one showing that
problem, alo)? Or, if you want to send it directly to me, that is fine
too. I am curious as to what the issue is.
(Having said that, I started using pdftex a long time ago, and now I
am trying to recall whether xdvi ever displayed images (other than
postscript). It would have to interpret the \specials that TeX
outputs, and it would have to be able to display the particular type
of graphic you included. What is the type of the graphics file(s) you
are trying to display?
Cheers.
Jim
On Thu, Sep 8, 2022 at 17:22 (-0700), Gianluca Interlandi wrote:
On Thu, 8 Sep 2022, Jim wrote:
> Hi Gianluca,
> See below.
> On Thu, Sep 8, 2022 at 15:05 (-0700), Gianluca
Interlandi wrote:
>> The other issue I'm having with OpenSUSE
15.3 is that xdvi no longer
>> displays figures in a .dvi document (.dvi is the result of compiling a .tex
>> document).
> ?
> Do you mean xdvi does not work at all? Or that
some content (text?)
> is displayed and not other (image?) content? If so, can you attach a
> concrete example to your next message?
Text is displayed correctly. However, images are not
shown, just a white
area where the image would be. I attach an example here.
> Perhaps there is something wrong with your
openSUSE ?
Why do you think so? I don't have any other issues
besides xdvi not showing
images and gvim being slow.
Gianluca
>> I can use okular to display the .dvi document,
but I miss how fast
>> xdvi is.
> It is fast, no doubt.
>> Can emacs also display .dvi documents? Are
there any other fast
>> viewers for .dvi documents?
> I don't recall ever having seen anything to
display .dvi files in
> emacs, so I just took a quick look. There are some packages that
> convert .dvi files to .png files and display those, but I doubt that
> you would find that faster than okular. On my system okular seems
> pretty fast (I looked at
> .../texlive/2021/texmf-dist/source/fontinst/base/fisource.dvi which is
> 224 pages and there was no laggyness I could detect, okular seemed
> more or less as fast as xdvi).
> Perhaps there is something wrong with your
openSUSE ?
> Cheers.
> Jim
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http://gianluca.today/
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University of Washington, Seattle WA U.S.A.
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8:31 p.m.
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are you able to attach the actual dvi file (or one
showing that
problem, alo)? Or, if you want to send it directly to me, that is fine
too. I am curious as to what the issue is.
I will send it to you separately.
What is the type of the graphics file(s) you are
trying to display?
EPS. If I open the exact same .dvi in an older OpenSUSE distribution, then
it displays the images perfectly.
Gianluca
On Thu, 8 Sep 2022, Jim wrote:
> Gianluca,
>
are you able to attach the actual dvi file (or one
showing that
problem, alo)? Or, if you want to send it directly to me, that is fine
too. I am curious as to what the issue is.
>
> (Having said that, I started using pdftex a long time ago, and now I
> am trying to recall whether xdvi ever displayed images (other than
> postscript). It would have to interpret the \specials that TeX
> outputs, and it would have to be able to display the particular type
> of graphic you included. What is the type of the graphics file(s) you
> are trying to display?
>
> Cheers.
> Jim
>
> On Thu, Sep 8, 2022 at 17:22 (-0700), Gianluca Interlandi wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 8 Sep 2022, Jim wrote:
>
>>> Hi Gianluca,
>
>>> See below.
>
>>> On Thu, Sep 8, 2022 at 15:05 (-0700), Gianluca Interlandi wrote:
>
>>>> The other issue I'm having with OpenSUSE 15.3 is that xdvi no longer
>>>> displays figures in a .dvi document (.dvi is the result of compiling a
.tex
>>>> document).
>
>>> ?
>
>>> Do you mean xdvi does not work at all? Or that some content (text?)
>>> is displayed and not other (image?) content? If so, can you attach a
>>> concrete example to your next message?
>
>> Text is displayed correctly. However, images are not shown, just a white
>> area where the image would be. I attach an example here.
>
>>> Perhaps there is something wrong with your openSUSE ?
>
>> Why do you think so? I don't have any other issues besides xdvi not showing
>> images and gvim being slow.
>
>> Gianluca
>
>>>> I can use okular to display the .dvi document, but I miss how fast
>>>> xdvi is.
>
>>> It is fast, no doubt.
>
>>>> Can emacs also display .dvi documents? Are there any other fast
>>>> viewers for .dvi documents?
>
>>> I don't recall ever having seen anything to display .dvi files in
>>> emacs, so I just took a quick look. There are some packages that
>>> convert .dvi files to .png files and display those, but I doubt that
>>> you would find that faster than okular. On my system okular seems
>>> pretty fast (I looked at
>>> .../texlive/2021/texmf-dist/source/fontinst/base/fisource.dvi which is
>>> 224 pages and there was no laggyness I could detect, okular seemed
>>> more or less as fast as xdvi).
>
>>> Perhaps there is something wrong with your openSUSE ?
>
>>> Cheers.
>>> Jim
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>
>> -----------------------------------------------------
>> Gianluca Interlandi, PhD gianluca(a)u.washington.edu
>> +1 (206) 685 4435
>> http://gianluca.today/
>
>> Department of Bioengineering
>> University of Washington, Seattle WA U.S.A.
>> -----------------------------------------------------
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