Hi List,
I was so glad to find out the possibility to install KDE 3.5.10 in Jaunty. Thanks very much too all of you who have contributed!
The installation went more or less smooth but now I'd like to ask a few questions or discuss certain matters according a few remaining quirks.
That's why I first tried to find a mailing list archive of this list to look what is already discussed but --- no success here. I prefere to first read the archive not to spam the list with well discussed subjects.
Can anyone point me into the right direction please?
Thanks a lot Gerhard
Hi List,
I was so glad to find out the possibility to install KDE 3.5.10 in Jaunty. Thanks very much too all of you who have contributed!
The installation went more or less smooth but now I'd like to ask a few questions or discuss certain matters according a few remaining quirks.
That's why I first tried to find a mailing list archive of this list to look what is already discussed but --- no success here. I prefere to first read the archive not to spam the list with well discussed subjects.
Can anyone point me into the right direction please?
Thanks a lot Gerhard
Hi Gerhard,
I don't have a web archive available--yet. The archives AFAIK are in the bowels of my Email server but I need to find a way to bring them out to a Web interface. If anyone has any suggestions, I'm running qmail and ezmlm...
Tim
Archival test message--please ignore
Tim
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 7:35 AM, Gerhard Zintel gerhard.zintel@web.de wrote:
That's why I first tried to find a mailing list archive of this list to look what is already discussed but --- no success here. I prefere to first read the archive not to spam the list with well discussed subjects.
We haven't discussed all that much. Go ahead and ask your questions.
Michael
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 7:35 AM, Gerhard Zintel gerhard.zintel@web.de wrote:
That's why I first tried to find a mailing list archive of this list to look what is already discussed but --- no success here. I prefere to first read the archive not to spam the list with well discussed subjects.
We haven't discussed all that much. Go ahead and ask your questions.
Michael
I have the two list archives up (finally): http://kubuntu-kde3.5-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ http://kubuntu-kde3.5-announce.pearsoncomputing.net/
Thank you for your patience!
Tim
On Monday 27 April 2009, kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net wrote:
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 7:35 AM, Gerhard Zintel gerhard.zintel@web.de
wrote:
That's why I first tried to find a mailing list archive of this list to look what is already discussed but --- no success here. I prefere to first read the archive not to spam the list with well discussed subjects.
I have the two list archives up (finally): http://kubuntu-kde3.5-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ http://kubuntu-kde3.5-announce.pearsoncomputing.net/
Thank you for your patience!
Tim
Wow, that was fast! One remark, if I try to search the list I get:
--------------- snip ------------------- Error: Unable to access mailing list kubuntu-kde3.5-users@pearsoncomputing.net. Its directory may not exist, or the webserver may not have appropriate permissions to read archives, or the mailing list may not be both archived and indexed (as required). --------------- snip -------------------
Searching isn't really necessary by now - but hopefully later on ;-)
Gerhard
Hello,
I tried to edit a text file as root by using the right mouse button menu Actions --> Edit as Root item. I am asked for my password afterwords a pop-up with title "Error - KDE Sudo" tells me: "Command not found!". Nothing more happens.
Any hint?
Gerhard
On Tuesday 28 April 2009, Gerhard Zintel wrote:
I tried to edit a text file as root by using the right mouse button menu Actions --> Edit as Root item. I am asked for my password afterwords a pop-up with title "Error - KDE Sudo" tells me: "Command not found!". Nothing more happens.
Answering to my own posting: I realized that the path to the kde-3 executables is set for a normal user but not for Root. I found the File responsible for the "Edit as Root" behaviour, it's /opt/kde3/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/edit-as-root.desktop As a work around I changed the line Exec=kdesu "kwrite" "%U" into Exec=kdesu "/opt/kde3/bin/kwrite" "%U"
That's surely not the correct way but as for now it works for me.
Gerhard
On Tuesday 28 April 2009, Gerhard Zintel wrote:
I tried to edit a text file as root by using the right mouse button menu Actions --> Edit as Root item. I am asked for my password afterwords a pop-up with title "Error - KDE Sudo" tells me: "Command not found!". Nothing more happens.
Answering to my own posting: I realized that the path to the kde-3 executables is set for a normal user but not for Root. I found the File responsible for the "Edit as Root" behaviour, it's /opt/kde3/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/edit-as-root.desktop As a work around I changed the line Exec=kdesu "kwrite" "%U" into Exec=kdesu "/opt/kde3/bin/kwrite" "%U"
That's surely not the correct way but as for now it works for me.
Gerhard
Hi Gerhard,
Do you have sudo-kde3 installed? It has /opt/kde3/bin added to the RPATH (root PATH variable) so that this sort of thing does not happen.
Tim
On Wednesday 29 April 2009, kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net wrote:
On Tuesday 28 April 2009, Gerhard Zintel wrote:
I tried to edit a text file as root by using the right mouse button menu Actions --> Edit as Root item. I am asked for my password afterwords a pop-up with title "Error - KDE Sudo" tells me: "Command not found!". Nothing more happens.
Answering to my own posting: I realized that the path to the kde-3 executables is set for a normal user but not for Root. I found the File responsible for the "Edit as Root" behaviour, it's /opt/kde3/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/edit-as-root.desktop As a work around I changed the line Exec=kdesu "kwrite" "%U" into Exec=kdesu "/opt/kde3/bin/kwrite" "%U"
That's surely not the correct way but as for now it works for me.
Gerhard
Hi Gerhard,
Do you have sudo-kde3 installed? It has /opt/kde3/bin added to the RPATH (root PATH variable) so that this sort of thing does not happen.
Tim
Hi Tim,
I just realized that I have installed both, kdesudo-kde3 and kdesudo. I don't know how this happens. The same is for konsole and konsole-kde3. Might it be that with default Ubuntu Jaunty install those packages are installed by default?
By deinstallation of kdesudo the two packages update-manager-kde and update-notifier-kde are deinstalled. Is there a replacement in KDE3?
After deinstallation of kdesudo I changed the file edit-as-root.desktop to it's original state but now I have the same problem like before: "Command not found!"
Thank you Gerhard
On Wednesday 29 April 2009, kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net wrote:
On Tuesday 28 April 2009, Gerhard Zintel wrote:
I tried to edit a text file as root by using the right mouse button
menu
Actions --> Edit as Root item. I am asked for my password afterwords
a
pop-up with title "Error - KDE Sudo" tells me: "Command not found!". Nothing more happens.
Answering to my own posting: I realized that the path to the kde-3 executables is set for a normal user but not for Root. I found the File
responsible
for the "Edit as Root" behaviour, it's /opt/kde3/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/edit-as-root.desktop As a work around I changed the line Exec=kdesu "kwrite" "%U" into Exec=kdesu "/opt/kde3/bin/kwrite" "%U"
That's surely not the correct way but as for now it works for me.
Gerhard
Hi Gerhard,
Do you have sudo-kde3 installed? It has /opt/kde3/bin added to the RPATH (root PATH variable) so that this sort of thing does not happen.
Tim
Hi Tim,
I just realized that I have installed both, kdesudo-kde3 and kdesudo. I don't know how this happens. The same is for konsole and konsole-kde3. Might it be that with default Ubuntu Jaunty install those packages are installed by default?
By deinstallation of kdesudo the two packages update-manager-kde and update-notifier-kde are deinstalled. Is there a replacement in KDE3?
After deinstallation of kdesudo I changed the file edit-as-root.desktop to it's original state but now I have the same problem like before: "Command not found!"
Thank you Gerhard
Hi Gerhard,
I was talking about sudo-kde3, not kdesudo-kde3. It's a special sudo recompile with the RPATH fixed for KDE3 apps.
Sorry for the confusion!
Tim
On Wednesday 29 April 2009, kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net wrote:
Hi Gerhard,
I was talking about sudo-kde3, not kdesudo-kde3. It's a special sudo recompile with the RPATH fixed for KDE3 apps.
Sorry for the confusion!
Tim
Hi Tim,
trying to install kdesudo-kde3 with "apt-get install " I am told that apt-get tries to remove package sudo what gives me an error message that in that case I can not longer log into my system as root because no Root password is set.
As long as that is the case I don't want to force installation of sudo-kde3.
Gerhard
Gerhard Zintel schrieb:
On Wednesday 29 April 2009, kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net wrote:
Hi Gerhard,
I was talking about sudo-kde3, not kdesudo-kde3. It's a special sudo recompile with the RPATH fixed for KDE3 apps.
Sorry for the confusion!
Tim
Hi Tim,
trying to install kdesudo-kde3 with "apt-get install " I am told that apt-get tries to remove package sudo what gives me an error message that in that case I can not longer log into my system as root because no Root password is set.
As long as that is the case I don't want to force installation of sudo-kde3.
Gerhard
You can set the root password via "sudo passwd" test it via "su".
Stefan
On Wednesday 29 April 2009, Stefan Endrullis wrote:
trying to install kdesudo-kde3 with "apt-get install " I am told that apt-get tries to remove package sudo what gives me an error message that in that case I can not longer log into my system as root because no Root password is set.
As long as that is the case I don't want to force installation of sudo-kde3.
Gerhard
You can set the root password via "sudo passwd" test it via "su".
Stefan
I have done this meanwhile but I'm nevertheless uncertain if I should deinstall the sudo package for installation of sudo-kde3?! Is it a complete replacement of this system tool?
Gerhard
On Wednesday 29 April 2009, Stefan Endrullis wrote:
trying to install kdesudo-kde3 with "apt-get install " I am told that apt-get tries to remove package sudo what gives me an error message
that
in that case I can not longer log into my system as root because no
Root
password is set.
As long as that is the case I don't want to force installation of sudo-kde3.
Gerhard
You can set the root password via "sudo passwd" test it via "su".
Stefan
I have done this meanwhile but I'm nevertheless uncertain if I should deinstall the sudo package for installation of sudo-kde3?! Is it a complete replacement of this system tool?
Gerhard
Hi Gerhard,
Yes. It is the identical source to sudo, but with /opt/kde3/bin and /opt/kde3/games added to the secure path. If you're a bit security paranoid (like me) and want to make sure I didn't insert any backdoors or the like, just download the source from the PPA and run a diff against the official sudo version--you should only see the secure path change.
Tim
On Thursday 30 April 2009, kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net wrote:
On Wednesday 29 April 2009, Stefan Endrullis wrote:
trying to install kdesudo-kde3 with "apt-get install " I am told that apt-get tries to remove package sudo what gives me an error message
that
in that case I can not longer log into my system as root because no
Root
password is set.
As long as that is the case I don't want to force installation of sudo-kde3.
Gerhard
You can set the root password via "sudo passwd" test it via "su".
Stefan
I have done this meanwhile but I'm nevertheless uncertain if I should deinstall the sudo package for installation of sudo-kde3?! Is it a complete replacement of this system tool?
Gerhard
Hi Gerhard,
Yes. It is the identical source to sudo, but with /opt/kde3/bin and /opt/kde3/games added to the secure path. If you're a bit security paranoid (like me) and want to make sure I didn't insert any backdoors or the like, just download the source from the PPA and run a diff against the official sudo version--you should only see the secure path change.
Tim
Thank you Tim for the explanation, I will do it.
No, I'm not really security paranoid ;-) but I was not sure to have the same functionality after deinstallation of package sudo.
Gerhard
On Wednesday 29 April 2009, kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net wrote:
On Wednesday 29 April 2009, kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net wrote:
On Tuesday 28 April 2009, Gerhard Zintel wrote:
I tried to edit a text file as root by using the right mouse button
menu
Actions --> Edit as Root item. I am asked for my password afterwords
a
pop-up with title "Error - KDE Sudo" tells me: "Command not found!". Nothing more happens.
Answering to my own posting: I realized that the path to the kde-3 executables is set for a normal user but not for Root. I found the File
responsible
for the "Edit as Root" behaviour, it's /opt/kde3/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/edit-as-root.desktop As a work around I changed the line Exec=kdesu "kwrite" "%U" into Exec=kdesu "/opt/kde3/bin/kwrite" "%U"
That's surely not the correct way but as for now it works for me.
Gerhard
Hi Gerhard,
Do you have sudo-kde3 installed? It has /opt/kde3/bin added to the RPATH (root PATH variable) so that this sort of thing does not happen.
Tim
Hi Tim,
I just realized that I have installed both, kdesudo-kde3 and kdesudo. I don't know how this happens. The same is for konsole and konsole-kde3. Might it be that with default Ubuntu Jaunty install those packages are installed by default?
By deinstallation of kdesudo the two packages update-manager-kde and update-notifier-kde are deinstalled. Is there a replacement in KDE3?
After deinstallation of kdesudo I changed the file edit-as-root.desktop to it's original state but now I have the same problem like before: "Command not found!"
Thank you Gerhard
Hi Gerhard,
I was talking about sudo-kde3, not kdesudo-kde3. It's a special sudo recompile with the RPATH fixed for KDE3 apps.
Sorry for the confusion!
Tim
I've just done it and it fixes the problem.
Thank U Gerhard
On Wednesday 29 April 2009, kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net wrote:
On Tuesday 28 April 2009, Gerhard Zintel wrote:
I tried to edit a text file as root by using the right mouse button
menu
Actions --> Edit as Root item. I am asked for my password afterwords
a
pop-up with title "Error - KDE Sudo" tells me: "Command not found!". Nothing more happens.
Answering to my own posting: I realized that the path to the kde-3 executables is set for a normal user but not for Root. I found the File
responsible
for the "Edit as Root" behaviour, it's /opt/kde3/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/edit-as-root.desktop As a work around I changed the line Exec=kdesu "kwrite" "%U" into Exec=kdesu "/opt/kde3/bin/kwrite" "%U"
That's surely not the correct way but as for now it works for me.
Gerhard
Hi Gerhard,
Do you have sudo-kde3 installed? It has /opt/kde3/bin added to the RPATH (root PATH variable) so that this sort of thing does not happen.
Tim
Hi Tim,
I just realized that I have installed both, kdesudo-kde3 and kdesudo. I don't know how this happens. The same is for konsole and konsole-kde3. Might it be that with default Ubuntu Jaunty install those packages are installed by default?
By deinstallation of kdesudo the two packages update-manager-kde and update-notifier-kde are deinstalled. Is there a replacement in KDE3?
After deinstallation of kdesudo I changed the file edit-as-root.desktop to it's original state but now I have the same problem like before: "Command not found!"
Thank you Gerhard
Hi Gerhard,
I was talking about sudo-kde3, not kdesudo-kde3. It's a special sudo recompile with the RPATH fixed for KDE3 apps.
Sorry for the confusion!
Tim
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