3 Sep
2019
3 Sep
'19
6:51 p.m.
Hi All,
What’s everyones favorite front end for KVM? I’m looking to use KVM for
several VMs (Win, CentOS6, CentOS7) and was looking for something a bit
easier to start out on than raw virt-manager.
Host OS: MX Linux 18 [Foundation, Debian Stable 9.6 (Stretch)]
Desktop: TDE 14.0.6
Thanks,
Michael
PS:
This was my original question, before I realized, asking about a front end was
a better choice. Pretty much only applicable if someone here has used, and
liked, Boxes...
Was: Figuring out Gnome dependencies?
I haven’t used Gnome in more than a decade. I found this Gnome app I’d like
to try out:
Boxes, Virtualization made simple
https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Boxes
https://www.openhub.net/p/gnome-boxes
and was wondering how to A) find out what its dependencies are and B) how to
actually install it.
A side excursion, trying to figure out B), lead me to Flatpak[1]. I’ve never
heard of it before, anyone have any experience or opinions on it?
Mostly I don’t want to end up installing most of Gnome just to try out an app.
[1] https://flatpak.org/
4 Sep
4 Sep
1:24 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Good front end for KVM?
On Tue, 3 Sep 2019 13:51:54 -0500
Michael <mb_trinity_desktop(a)inet-design.com> wrote:
What’s everyones favorite front end for KVM? I’m
looking to use KVM for
several VMs (Win, CentOS6, CentOS7) and was looking for something a bit
easier to start out on than raw virt-manager.
I ended up running raw qemu after not being able to get several front-ends to
work properly (I know I tried aqemu, probably gkvm, possibly virtualbricks).
None of the ones I tried was self-explanatory, and I figured that if I was going
to have to read a bunch of documentation anyway, I might as well drop back to
the command line and be assured of full control.
If you want easy virtualization from a GUI, your best bet is VirtualBox.
PS:
This was my original question, before I realized, asking about a front end was
a better choice. Pretty much only applicable if someone here has used, and
liked, Boxes...
Was: Figuring out Gnome dependencies?
I haven’t used Gnome in more than a decade. I found this Gnome app I’d like
to try out:
Boxes, Virtualization made simple
https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Boxes
https://www.openhub.net/p/gnome-boxes
and was wondering how to A) find out what its dependencies are and B) how to
actually install it.
The dependencies list for this program is more than 20 packages long and includes
GTK3 stuff, Webkit, Vala stuff, polkit, qemu, libvirt, Spice, and a few other odds
and ends. Interestingly, it doesn't seem to want much of Gnome, just gconf,
gnome-common, and one or two other bits that might be optional.
A side excursion, trying to figure out B), lead me to
Flatpak[1]. I’ve never
heard of it before, anyone have any experience or opinions on it?
Moderately risky, since it bypasses your distro's gatekeepers and installs software
not vetted by them. Not innately evil, but avoid if possible, like the other
multi-distro
installer "solutions".
E. Liddell
6:47 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Good front end for KVM?
Anno domini 2019 Tue, 3 Sep 21:24:37 -0400
E. Liddell scripsit:
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On Tue, 3 Sep 2019 13:51:54 -0500
Michael <mb_trinity_desktop(a)inet-design.com> wrote:
I currently have virt-manager in use. Not that I like it much, nut it kind of works.
Nik
What’s everyones favorite front end for KVM? I’m
looking to use KVM for
several VMs (Win, CentOS6, CentOS7) and was looking for something a bit
easier to start out on than raw virt-manager.
I ended up running raw qemu after not being able to get several front-ends to
work properly (I know I tried aqemu, probably gkvm, possibly virtualbricks).
None of the ones I tried was self-explanatory, and I figured that if I was going
to have to read a bunch of documentation anyway, I might as well drop back to
the command line and be assured of full control.
If you want easy virtualization from a GUI, your best bet is VirtualBox. PS:
This was my original question, before I realized, asking about a front end was
a better choice. Pretty much only applicable if someone here has used, and
liked, Boxes...
Was: Figuring out Gnome dependencies?
I haven’t used Gnome in more than a decade. I found this Gnome app I’d like
to try out:
Boxes, Virtualization made simple
https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Boxes
https://www.openhub.net/p/gnome-boxes
and was wondering how to A) find out what its dependencies are and B) how to
actually install it.
The dependencies list for this program is more than 20 packages long and includes
GTK3 stuff, Webkit, Vala stuff, polkit, qemu, libvirt, Spice, and a few other odds
and ends. Interestingly, it doesn't seem to want much of Gnome, just gconf,
gnome-common, and one or two other bits that might be optional.
A side excursion, trying to figure out B), lead
me to Flatpak[1]. I’ve never
heard of it before, anyone have any experience or opinions on it?
Moderately risky, since it bypasses your distro's gatekeepers and installs software
not vetted by them. Not innately evil, but avoid if possible, like the other
multi-distro
installer "solutions".
E. Liddell
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7:22 p.m.
Michael wrote:
What’s everyones favorite front end for KVM? I’m
looking to use KVM for
several VMs (Win, CentOS6, CentOS7) and was looking for something a bit
easier to start out on than raw virt-manager.
I did one project with lxc and ansible for the configuration/management. It
worked quite well. No idea if it helps you and I don't know how win works
with lxc - if at all.
regards
5 Sep
5 Sep
6:08 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Good front end for KVM?
On 09/03/2019 01:51 PM, Michael wrote:
Hi All,
What’s everyones favorite front end for KVM? I’m looking to use KVM for
several VMs (Win, CentOS6, CentOS7) and was looking for something a bit
easier to start out on than raw virt-manager.
Unless you just want to learn raw qemu or use virt-manager (workable, but a
bit awkward), then VirtualBox is the key. It uses qemu (and can use several
other backends) It can generate the raw qemu commands if you like.
There is just no comparison. The whole crux of the issue behind VirtualBox was
to wrap qemu in a sane gui that most people could configure without more than
reading a howto. I've tried them all and usually have 6-10 guest running
headless on multiple servers. By my comparison, it is the way to go.
I did use virt-manager (just to do it) and had no issue getting a working Arch
guest going on an Arch host, but it just hasn't had the amount of development
that Oracle put into vbox. Try them all, but I suspect I know where you will
end up.... With the virtualbox-oracle-extensions providing USB to your guests,
it is hard to beat...
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David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
6:48 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Good front end for KVM?
Anno domini 2019 Thu, 5 Sep 01:08:44 -0500
David C. Rankin scripsit:
On 09/03/2019 01:51 PM, Michael wrote:
VirtualBox is not available for beowulf/buster - that's why I have to use virt-manager
:(
BTW, do you know how to set the screen resolution to 1024x768 in virt-manager?
Nik
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Hi All,
What’s everyones favorite front end for KVM? I’m looking to use KVM for
several VMs (Win, CentOS6, CentOS7) and was looking for something a bit
easier to start out on than raw virt-manager.
Unless you just want to learn raw qemu or use virt-manager (workable, but a
bit awkward), then VirtualBox is the key. It uses qemu (and can use several
other backends) It can generate the raw qemu commands if you like.
There is just no comparison. The whole crux of the issue behind VirtualBox was
to wrap qemu in a sane gui that most people could configure without more than
reading a howto. I've tried them all and usually have 6-10 guest running
headless on multiple servers. By my comparison, it is the way to go.
I did use virt-manager (just to do it) and had no issue getting a working Arch
guest going on an Arch host, but it just hasn't had the amount of development
that Oracle put into vbox. Try them all, but I suspect I know where you will
end up.... With the virtualbox-oracle-extensions providing USB to your guests,
it is hard to beat...
8:46 p.m.
Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
VirtualBox is not available for beowulf/buster -
that's why I have to use
virt-manager :( BTW, do you know how to set the screen resolution to
1024x768 in virt-manager?
I don't know about you, but I see here it says "Debian 10"
VirtualBox 6.0.12 for Linux
Ubuntu 18.04 / 18.10 / 19.04 / Debian 10
https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
regards
6 Sep
6 Sep
7:54 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: Good front end for KVM?
Anno domini 2019 Thu, 05 Sep 22:46:09 +0200
deloptes scripsit:
Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Yes, but it used to be in the devuan/debian repositories. If I recall correctly, there has
been a problem with upstream, but I do not wemember what it was and if it's solved
now.
Nik
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VirtualBox is not available for beowulf/buster -
that's why I have to use
virt-manager :( BTW, do you know how to set the screen resolution to
1024x768 in virt-manager?
I don't know about you, but I see here it says "Debian 10"
VirtualBox 6.0.12 for Linux
Ubuntu 18.04 / 18.10 / 19.04 / Debian 10
https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
regards
12:13 p.m.
Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Yes, but it used to be in the devuan/debian
repositories. If I recall
correctly, there has been a problem with upstream, but I do not wemember
what it was and if it's solved now.
I usually download and install the debian package from there - it works like
a charm! No need to wait for including it in the debian/devuan repo
5:17 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Good front end for KVM?
On 09/05/2019 01:48 AM, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Anno domini 2019 Thu, 5 Sep 01:08:44 -0500
VirtualBox is not available for beowulf/buster - that's why I have to use
virt-manager :(
BTW, do you know how to set the screen resolution to 1024x768 in virt-manager?
Nik
Not off the top of my head, but:
virt-manager guest resize not working
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/41990600/virt-manager-guest-resize-not-…
looks promising :)
Also deloptes posted the link to the virtualbox downloads. I would be
surprised if they didn't have one for your distro. I have used the suse rpms
from virtualbox.org for years and I build the AUR virtualbox-5 package for
Arch. If you don't have one for buster, then you can always use the generic
package.
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5 Sep
5 Sep
8:47 p.m.
David C. Rankin wrote:
There is just no comparison. The whole crux of the
issue behind VirtualBox
was to wrap qemu in a sane gui that most people could configure without
more than reading a howto. I've tried them all and usually have 6-10 guest
running headless on multiple servers. By my comparison, it is the way to
go.
+1
I did not try them all but also run what I need headless
I did use virt-manager (just to do it) and had no
issue getting a working
Arch guest going on an Arch host, but it just hasn't had the amount of
development that Oracle put into vbox. Try them all, but I suspect I know
where you will end up.... With the virtualbox-oracle-extensions providing
USB to your guests, it is hard to beat...
11:36 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Good front end for KVM?
On Tuesday 03 of September 2019 20:51:54 Michael wrote:
Hi All,
What’s everyones favorite front end for KVM? I’m looking to use KVM for
several VMs (Win, CentOS6, CentOS7) and was looking for something a bit
easier to start out on than raw virt-manager.
Host OS: MX Linux 18 [Foundation, Debian Stable 9.6 (Stretch)]
Desktop: TDE 14.0.6
Thanks,
Michael
PS:
This was my original question, before I realized, asking about a front
end was a better choice. Pretty much only applicable if someone here
has used, and liked, Boxes...
Was: Figuring out Gnome dependencies?
I haven’t used Gnome in more than a decade. I found this Gnome app I’d
like to try out:
Boxes, Virtualization made simple
https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Boxes
https://www.openhub.net/p/gnome-boxes
and was wondering how to A) find out what its dependencies are and B)
how to actually install it.
A side excursion, trying to figure out B), lead me to Flatpak[1]. I’ve
never heard of it before, anyone have any experience or opinions on it?
Mostly I don’t want to end up installing most of Gnome just to try out
an app.
[1] https://flatpak.org/
Hi,
my favorite KVM frontend is libvirt == virsh used in cli :)
The advantage is that it is the same base, which is used also by other
tools like virt-top, virt-manager, WebVirtCloud, OpenNebula and of course
OpenStack.
Cheers
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