Heloo
Kubuntu 13.04: using kde4 usb flash drive is found and automounted. However in trintiy automaount does not work I have to mount manually.
any suggestions?
thanks
Uwe Brauer
Same on my trinity computer. Is it somehow possible to active the automount manually?
BTW there is a quite simple way of mounting an USB stick or other medium if you its device but don't know its filesystem: $ udisks --mount /dev/sdb1
Regards, Stefan
Am 11.02.2014 15:51, schrieb Uwe Brauer:
Heloo
Kubuntu 13.04: using kde4 usb flash drive is found and automounted. However in trintiy automaount does not work I have to mount manually.
any suggestions?
thanks
Uwe Brauer
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Uwe Brauer oub.oub.oub@gmail.com wrote:
However in trintiy automaount does not work I have to mount manually.
That happened to me when I did a configure desktop by right-clicking on the desktop.
When I got to the desktop configuration through the main menu, system, configuration manager, I was able to toggle "desktop device icons" off and then back on again, and that made automount work again.
All the years I have had/used kde 3.5..., I never knew this. So simple. This is a perfect example of the beauty of keeping kde 3.5. going.
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 12:26 PM, Curt Howland Howland@priss.com wrote:
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Uwe Brauer oub.oub.oub@gmail.com wrote:
However in trintiy automaount does not work I have to mount manually.
That happened to me when I did a configure desktop by right-clicking on the desktop.
When I got to the desktop configuration through the main menu, system, configuration manager, I was able to toggle "desktop device icons" off and then back on again, and that made automount work again.
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On Tuesday 11 February 2014 18:33:40 Uwe Brauer wrote:
On 02/11/2014 07:10 PM, James Downing wrote:
All the years I have had/used kde 3.5..., I never knew this. So simple. This is a perfect example of the beauty of keeping kde 3.5. going.
I still have not understood how he did it!
Ditto. I have tried and failed to find it. (I too am having trouble with desktop icons.)
Lisi
I will attach a screen-grab
Kmenu, Settings, Control Center (sorry, was writing from memory earlier, I'm at the machine now).
In Control Center, Desktop, Behavior, Device Icons.
I unchecked "Show Device Icons", saved, then toggled it back on again.
Curt-
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 3:09 PM, Uwe Brauer oub.oub.oub@gmail.com wrote:
On 02/11/2014 06:26 PM, Curt Howland wrote:
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Uwe Brauer oub.oub.oub@gmail.com wrote:
However in trintiy automaount does not work I have to mount manually.
That happened to me when I did a configure desktop by right-clicking on the desktop.
When I got to the desktop configuration through the main menu, system, configuration manager, I was able to toggle "desktop device icons" off and then back on again, and that made automount work again.
hm I am not sure what you mean by configuration manager.
When I click on the outmost left icon, then select system,there is no configuration manager.
When I go to system settings (my favorite setting tool, I cannot find it neither)
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On Tuesday 11 February 2014 22:21:40 Curt Howland wrote:
I will attach a screen-grab
Kmenu, Settings, Control Center (sorry, was writing from memory earlier, I'm at the machine now).
In Control Center, Desktop, Behavior, Device Icons.
I unchecked "Show Device Icons", saved, then toggled it back on again.
Thanks, Curt. Still no go!
I work 99% of the time without icons, so it's no big deal. Automounting, and making automounting visible, is all I use the icons for anyway.
Lisi
oddly, i have the reverse issue -- i tried what was described here over the last couple of days, and it worked, and now i can't make it stop working: if i go back and uncheck it, it rechecks itself!
so the inverse question: how do i *keep* this from happening?
here is how I did it:
click the following items
control center
desktop
behavior
under general tab, click on "show icons on desktop". I usually have this disabled myself, because I dislike icons on the desktop. However, for the case of removable media like usb drives, it makes sense to enable them
device icons
enable the "show device icons" if it is currently disabled
enable "mounted removable medium" if it is currently disabled.
I imagine you can toggle anything from this point up, and then hit "apply", then toggle back and hit "apply" and it should work.
I also disabled essentially everything except the "mounted removable medium"
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 3:09 PM, Uwe Brauer oub.oub.oub@gmail.com wrote:
On 02/11/2014 06:26 PM, Curt Howland wrote:
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Uwe Brauer oub.oub.oub@gmail.com oub.oub.oub@gmail.com wrote:
However in trintiy automaount does not work I have to mount manually.
That happened to me when I did a configure desktop by right-clicking on the desktop.
When I got to the desktop configuration through the main menu, system, configuration manager, I was able to toggle "desktop device icons" off and then back on again, and that made automount work again.
hm I am not sure what you mean by configuration manager.
When I click on the outmost left icon, then select system,there is no configuration manager.
When I go to system settings (my favorite setting tool, I cannot find it neither)
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"James" == James Downing freelsjd@gmail.com writes:
Hi
behavior
under general tab, click on "show icons on desktop". I usually have this disabled myself, because I dislike icons on the desktop. However, for the case of removable media like usb drives, it makes sense to enable them
device icons
enable the "show device icons" if it is currently disabled
enable "mounted removable medium" if it is currently disabled.
I imagine you can toggle anything from this point up, and then hit "apply", then toggle back and hit "apply" and it should work.
I also disabled essentially everything except the "mounted removable medium"
Htanks, I understand now, but this is to display a medium, which is already *mounted*.
I did what you suggested, indeed the icon for the mounted usb flash disappears. However the command mount
still shows me that the device is mounted!
My problem is that under trinity is device is *not* mounted automatically
The command
Mount
Does not return that it is mounted.
However when I log out log in in KDE 4 and replug the USB in, it will be mounted automatically.
So it seems to me that some daemon is not starting.
Just in case could somebody provide me what this automount really does.
Because if I mount it manually (VFAT format)
By
sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /media/USB
It is mounted as root and is not writable by the common (non root) user.
thanks
Uwe Brauer
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 10:36:50AM +0100, Uwe Brauer wrote:
[...]
By
sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /media/USB
It is mounted as root and is not writable by the common (non root) user.
You can specify options in /etc/fstab; if you give the option `user' for a file system, also ordinary users are allowed to mount that file system. Only the user who mounted it (and root, of course) can umount the FS.
If you give the option `users', any user can mount the FS, and any user can umount it.
There's also the `owner' option, which restricts the rights to mount a file system to the user who is the owner of the underlying device file. Unless a daemon does its proper work (which seems to not be the case here), you had to involve some other means to set the owner as desired... one example is udev (nice introduction can be found at http://reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html), but this is indeed a bit lower level than a desktop environment.
Good luck,
Jagged
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 10:36:50AM +0100, Uwe Brauer wrote:
If you give the option `users', any user can mount the FS, and any user can umount it.
There's also the `owner' option, which restricts the rights to mount a file system to the user who is the owner of the underlying device file. Unless a daemon does its proper work (which seems to not be the case here), you had to involve some other means to set the owner as desired... one example is udev (nice introduction can be found at http://reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html), but this is indeed a bit lower level than a desktop environment.
Thanks. But I have to repeat: the automount daemon always worked on Trinity, since I started to use it.
This time (for Kubuntu 13.05) it works for KDE4 (so the USB drive and the PC are not the problem), but *not* for trinity.
So it must be a trinity bug, but I have no idea how to debug it. I hoped and still do that the maintainer(s) could provide me with some advice how to locate this error.
regards
Uwe
Am Donnerstag, 13. Februar 2014, 15:49:37 schrieb Uwe Brauer:
This time (for Kubuntu 13.05) it works for KDE4 (so the USB drive and the PC are not the problem), but *not* for trinity.
might be caused by kubuntu 13.04 no longer supporting HAL, which is what trinity 3.5.x still uses. R14 will be working without HAL, so you probably will have to wait for that.
werner