22 Sep
2020
22 Sep
'20
10:32 a.m.
I am running in a new problem. Being old fashioned I still like
seamonkey because it offers browswer+mail.
However the fonts, especially of the summary lines in mail are very
small. I changed all the fonts I can think of, first in seamonkey and
then in the trinity setting but no result the fonts size in the message
itself I can change but not of the summary buffer.
Anybody has an idea?
Regards
Uwe Brauer
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22 Sep
22 Sep
10:42 a.m.
>> "UB" == Uwe Brauer
<oub(a)mat.ucm.es> writes:
I am running in a new problem. Being old fashioned I
still like
seamonkey because it offers browswer+mail.
However the fonts, especially of the summary lines in
mail are very
small. I changed all the fonts I can think of, first in seamonkey and
then in the trinity setting but no result the fonts size in the message
itself I can change but not of the summary buffer.
Anybody has an idea?
I just checked in ubuntuu (gnome) I can using the gnome-tweak tool
enhance the fonts, but trinity seems not to influence the seamonkey
fonts (and of course I changed these also)
12:34 p.m.
On Tue, 22 Sep 2020 19:42:28 +0200
Uwe Brauer <oub(a)mat.ucm.es> wrote:
Seamonkey and the other Firefox-family browsers are GTK-based.
TDE is not. You can sort of control GTK themes from the Trinity
Control Center by installing gtk3-tqt-engine and gtk-qt-engine, but
these are buggy and can cause other problems.
The other options are to find a desktop-agnostic GTK themer
(if such a program exists), or hand-editing GTK theme files.
E. Liddell
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"UB" == Uwe Brauer <oub(a)mat.ucm.es> writes:
I am running in a new problem. Being old
fashioned I still like
seamonkey because it offers browswer+mail.
However the fonts, especially of the summary
lines in mail are very
small. I changed all the fonts I can think of, first in seamonkey and
then in the trinity setting but no result the fonts size in the message
itself I can change but not of the summary buffer.
Anybody has an idea?
I just checked in ubuntuu (gnome) I can using the gnome-tweak tool
enhance the fonts, but trinity seems not to influence the seamonkey
fonts (and of course I changed these also) 
12:58 p.m.
On Tuesday 22 September 2020 12:34:15 E. Liddell via tde-users wrote:
On Tue, 22 Sep 2020 19:42:28 +0200
Uwe Brauer <oub(a)mat.ucm.es> wrote:
I just checked in ubuntuu (gnome) I can using the gnome-tweak tool
enhance the fonts, but trinity seems not to influence the seamonkey
fonts (and of course I changed these also)
Seamonkey and the other Firefox-family browsers are GTK-based.
TDE is not. You can sort of control GTK themes from the Trinity
Control Center by installing gtk3-tqt-engine and gtk-qt-engine, but
these are buggy and can cause other problems.
The other options are to find a desktop-agnostic GTK themer
(if such a program exists), or hand-editing GTK theme files.
E. Liddell
I use Seamonkey for only one thing, which is a very obscure and hard-to-find
blog. I did notice that the fonts are rather small for the general gui, but
for the pages themselves I use css to force my preferences -- fonts were one
of my headaches at the time -- and this was on recommendation of the
maintainer of the network.
So I don't know much about it, and might be completely off-base, but if a css
solution would work, I'd be glad to share mine, or find out more about it.
Bill
> "UB" == Uwe Brauer
<oub(a)mat.ucm.es> writes:
I am running in a new problem. Being old fashioned I still like
seamonkey because it offers browswer+mail.
However the fonts, especially of the summary lines in mail are very
small. I changed all the fonts I can think of, first in seamonkey and
then in the trinity setting but no result the fonts size in the message
itself I can change but not of the summary buffer.
Anybody has an idea?
1:23 p.m.
On Tue, 22 Sep 2020 19:42:28 +0200
Uwe Brauer <oub(a)mat.ucm.es> wrote:
Seamonkey and the other Firefox-family browsers are
GTK-based.
TDE is not. You can sort of control GTK themes from the Trinity
Control Center by installing gtk3-tqt-engine and gtk-qt-engine, but
these are buggy and can cause other problems.
Suppose I install them, do you know which commands take care of the
configuration?
1:40 p.m.
On Tue, 22 Sep 2020 22:23:34 +0200
Uwe Brauer <oub(a)mat.ucm.es> wrote:
I haven't used either one in a very long time. gtk-qt-engine (for GTK2)
used to add a settings page to the "Appearance and Themes" section of
the Control Center. I can't remember what the label was, but it was
pretty obvious. For gtk3-tqt-engine, I have no idea—can someone else
tell us whether it adds to the Control Center in the same way, or does
something else?
gtk3-tqt-engine might even supersede gtk-qt-engine. If you're going to
try this, install gtk3-tqt-engine alone first.
E. Liddell
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On Tue, 22 Sep 2020 19:42:28 +0200
Uwe Brauer <oub(a)mat.ucm.es> wrote:
Seamonkey and the other Firefox-family browsers
are GTK-based.
TDE is not. You can sort of control GTK themes from the Trinity
Control Center by installing gtk3-tqt-engine and gtk-qt-engine, but
these are buggy and can cause other problems.
Suppose I install them, do you know which commands take care of the
configuration?
24 Sep
24 Sep
11:55 p.m.
New subject: [SOLVED] (was: seamonkey small fonts)
On Tue, 22 Sep 2020 22:23:34 +0200
Uwe Brauer <oub(a)mat.ucm.es> wrote:
I haven't used either one in a very long time.
gtk-qt-engine (for GTK2)
used to add a settings page to the "Appearance and Themes" section of
the Control Center. I can't remember what the label was, but it was
pretty obvious. For gtk3-tqt-engine, I have no idea—can someone else
tell us whether it adds to the Control Center in the same way, or does
something else?
Installing the gtk-qt-engine was sufficient for Ubuntu 16.04 I hope the
same is true for Ubuntu 20.04 (but it might rely on qtk3 and then I am
not sure how to proceed, but I will have to try it out.
Thanks for your help
gtk3-tqt-engine might even supersede gtk-qt-engine.
If you're going to
try this, install gtk3-tqt-engine alone first.
E. Liddell
23 Sep
23 Sep
12:44 a.m.
Uwe Brauer via tde-users composed on 2020-09-22 19:32 (UTC+0200):
I am running in a new problem. Being old fashioned I
still like
seamonkey because it offers browswer+mail.
However the fonts, especially of the summary lines in
mail are very
small. I changed all the fonts I can think of, first in seamonkey and
then in the trinity setting but no result the fonts size in the message
itself I can change but not of the summary buffer.
Anybody has an idea?
SeaMonkey has been the only email client I've ever used since the name change from
Mozilla Suite to SeaMonkey. Before that I only used Mozilla Suite after Netscape 4
went out of support. My first ever email client was Netscape 2. Since SeaMonkey
was actually the Netscape Inc. internal codename for Netscape the
browser/email/composer/address book suite, it actually turns out SeaMonkey is the
only email client I've ever used (not counting webmail), 23 years so far.
All that said, which SeaMonkey *are* you using, version and source (package
manager vs. mozilla.org)? Exactly which where you using before the current problem
manifested?
What does "inxi -GMSay" report (you'll get error messages if not using the
latest
or a very very recent version from upstream, currently 3.1.06)?
What does "dpkg-query -l | grep -i gtk | sort" report?
All that said, I'm not using SeaMonkey Mail in TDE, but in KDE3 on openSUSE, where
I have 2.53.4 (browser & CZ) and 2.49.5 (browser & mail) running 24/7/365 give or
take. I do have TDE running on lots of other installations on other hardware, but
I don't use any web browsers on them very often, and virtually never do email
except with this my primary box.
That said, what WFM might work for you, once we know what your environmental
details are. One stopper could be Gnome/GTK's insistence on setting Xft.dpi to 96
unless explicitly overridden (it's Gnome's scaling device), which doesn't
happen
in openSUSE (unless maybe running Gnome, which I never do, and shouldn't affect
TDE anyway), and could be your only problem.
It's probably going to be best that you change all your fonts customizations back
to whatever they started at before making any suggested changes to come after I
see your answers.
Your OP as I see it (using a 24" 1920x1200 screen):
http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Moz/emailUWE20200922.png
Note that it shows you didn't send it using SeaMonkey Mail.
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