25 Jun
2018
25 Jun
'18
10:56 p.m.
On Monday 25 June 2018 21:30:31 Kate Draven wrote:
> > On Monday 25 June 2018 14:15:18 J Leslie Turriff wrote:
> > > On 2018-06-25 01:08:32 William Morder wrote:
> > > > I can't imagine that I am 100 years old, but I can imagine that I
am
> > > > 60, and have already begun to feel the ravages of time on my body.
It
> > > > also
>
> is
>
> > > > a pain to use computer screens that are designed by and for young
>
> people.
>
> > > One of the reasons I'm not using KDE4/Plasma is that there are no
> > > HiColor icons available there (AFAIK), just the wishy-washy pastel
ones
> that imitate Windoze. Their contrast is so poor
it's hard for me to
distinguish
one icon
from another in many cases. As you say, today's desktops are
designed for young people, by young people, and the limitations due to
aging or other disabilities are not thought of, while they seem to be
concentrating on eye-candy instead of functionality.
Leslie
Old people have less disposable income, so there's no reason to waste
time designing systems for them to use when they can't afford them
anyway. Also, old people tend to die sooner than young people, so it's a
shrinking market.
Bill
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26 Jun
26 Jun
5:54 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: remove lock session from menu?
On Tuesday 26 June 2018 01:56:23 Kate Draven wrote:
"... my super-dainty Kate -
For dainties are all Kates -"
(or thus quoth another bloke named William)
Bill
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LOL you're alright mate, and a mighty poet.
Me great grandmother always said the above to encourage me.
I was a wee child (and adult now) so everyone always assumed I was
incapable. They were wrong lol.
Most of the people I have using Linux are over the age of 60. About,
hmm, 40 something people. Then about a dozen kids. It's because of the
high numbers of pensioners that I'm trying to get qtcurve to use
background images like the brushed metal of baghira. The background
doesn't blend in with the colours, making it easier for them to see
differences. I feel they are worth the effort, despite how much
they've shrunk.
And Kate, since I'm in that "geriatric" profile at my soon to be 84
years, I certainly respect your efforts to drag the seniors into the
computer litterate age, so a doff of my ever present semi-western hat to
you seems well deserved indeed. My local senior center runs such a
program, but its all on (spit up a big one) winders. Mention linux and
get shushed.
But I was a nerd before the word was invented, so when computers became
affordable, I was on-board, putting them to work at labor saving jobs
fairly early. The first such project used a Quest Super Elf, with an RCA
1802 processor. It applied all the work needed to a just composed tv
commercial to make them work with an automatic station break machine.
And while I have long since gone down the road from that tv stations
engineering staff, the last time I checked, 15 years later, it was still
in use. Thats a couple of eons in tv station control room time.
On Monday 25
June 2018 21:30:31 Kate Draven wrote:
> > On Monday 25 June 2018 14:15:18 J Leslie Turriff wrote:
> > > On 2018-06-25 01:08:32 William Morder wrote:
> > > > I can't imagine that I am 100 years old, but I can imagine
> > > > that I am 60, and have already begun to feel the ravages of
> > > > time on my body.
It
> > > > also
>
> is
>
> > > > a pain to use computer screens that are designed by and for
> > > > young
>
> people.
>
> > > One of the reasons I'm not using KDE4/Plasma is that there
> > > are no HiColor icons available there (AFAIK), just the
> > > wishy-washy pastel
ones
> that imitate Windoze. Their contrast is so poor
it's hard for
> me to
distinguish
> one icon from another in many cases. As you
say, today's
> desktops are designed for young people, by young people, and
> the limitations due to aging or other disabilities are not
> thought of, while they seem to be concentrating on eye-candy
> instead of functionality.
>
> Leslie
Old people have less disposable income, so there's no reason to
waste time designing systems for them to use when they can't
afford them anyway. Also, old people tend to die sooner than
young people, so it's a shrinking market.
Bill
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Only fools count the marginalized out.
Kate
AKA Konfucius But this is all off topice so I'll end it here.
BS. Its all in the "getting to know the neighbors" AFAIAC.
Back to business lads and lasses.
Cheers William of The Poets
Thats a + too.
Kate
--
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
9:49 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: remove lock session from menu?
On Tuesday 26 June 2018 05:54:00 Gene Heskett wrote:
On Tuesday 26 June 2018 01:56:23 Kate Draven wrote:
LOL you're alright mate, and a mighty poet.
Me great grandmother always said the above to encourage me.
I was a wee child (and adult now) so everyone always assumed I was
incapable. They were wrong lol.
Most of the people I have using Linux are over the age of 60. About,
hmm, 40 something people. Then about a dozen kids. It's because of the
high numbers of pensioners that I'm trying to get qtcurve to use
background images like the brushed metal of baghira. The background
doesn't blend in with the colours, making it easier for them to see
differences. I feel they are worth the effort, despite how much
they've shrunk.
And Kate, since I'm in that "geriatric" profile at my soon to be 84
years, I certainly respect your efforts to drag the seniors into the
computer litterate age, so a doff of my ever present semi-western hat to
you seems well deserved indeed. My local senior center runs such a
program, but its all on (spit up a big one) winders. Mention linux and
get shushed.
But I was a nerd before the word was invented, so when computers became
affordable, I was on-board, putting them to work at labor saving jobs
fairly early. The first such project used a Quest Super Elf, with an RCA
1802 processor. It applied all the work needed to a just composed tv
commercial to make them work with an automatic station break machine.
And while I have long since gone down the road from that tv stations
engineering staff, the last time I checked, 15 years later, it was still
in use. Thats a couple of eons in tv station control room time.
I'm a relative late-comer to the Nerdom, and while I doubt that I will ever
get elected King of the Nerds, I hope to make myself useful as their Merlin.
Bill
On Monday
25 June 2018 21:30:31 Kate Draven wrote:
> > On Monday 25 June 2018 14:15:18 J Leslie Turriff wrote:
> > > On 2018-06-25 01:08:32 William Morder wrote:
> > > > I can't imagine that I am 100 years old, but I can imagine
> > > > that I am 60, and have already begun to feel the ravages of
> > > > time on my body.
It
> > > > also
>
> is
>
> > > > a pain to use computer screens that are designed by and for
> > > > young
>
> people.
>
> > > One of the reasons I'm not using KDE4/Plasma is that there
> > > are no HiColor icons available there (AFAIK), just the
> > > wishy-washy pastel
ones
> >
that imitate Windoze. Their contrast is so poor it's hard for
> > me to
distinguish
> > one icon from another in many cases. As you say, today's
> > desktops are designed for young people, by young people, and
> > the limitations due to aging or other disabilities are not
> > thought of, while they seem to be concentrating on eye-candy
> > instead of functionality.
> >
> > Leslie
>
> Old people have less disposable income, so there's no reason to
> waste time designing systems for them to use when they can't
> afford them anyway. Also, old people tend to die sooner than
> young people, so it's a shrinking market.
>
> Bill
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
>-----
Only fools count the marginalized out.
Kate
AKA Konfucius
"... my super-dainty Kate -
For dainties are all Kates -"
(or thus quoth another bloke named William)
Bill
--------------------------------------------------------------------
- But this is all off topice so I'll end it
here.
BS. Its all in the "getting to know the neighbors" AFAIAC.
Back to business lads and lasses.
Cheers William of The Poets
Thats a + too.
> Kate
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