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[OT] Creative Sound Blaster Card SB1570
by Edward 27 Nov '20

27 Nov '20

I purchased the same Creative Sound Blaster (SB1570) card that Kate referenced in a prior message. The card arrived today and it works with Trinity/PCLinuxOS, right out of the box. lspci is showing the card using the 'snd_hda_intel' kernel module. -- This message was sent using virtual technology.

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Trinity Triple Play
by Edward 27 Nov '20

27 Nov '20

This morning, I finished installation of another VirtualBox. Installed the Debian 10.6 image, then after upgrading, installed the Trinity Debian packages. To my surprise, it automatically added and configured my HP printer. Once again, excellent work! :) Trinity PCLinuxOS (the host OS), Trinity Ubuntu, Trinity Debian. -- This message was sent using virtual technology.

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Re: TDE, ALSA and a seperate mic ...
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 27 Nov '20

27 Nov '20

> On Wednesday 25 November 2020 05:18:53 pm Edward via tde-users wrote: > > VirtualBox is all new to me. I'm just barely getting started with it to > > see what it can and cannot do. TDE/Ubuntu runs very well in it. > > Hi Ed, > > Do you have a VirtualBox tutorial and/or setup instructions guide that you > used (and liked)? > > Like you VirtualBox isn't something I've used before and I'm trying to get the > wife to move to TDE, but she has 2 windows programs she has to use (neither > run well under wine). > > Thanks, > Michael > ____________________________________________________ +1 on the tutorial request I use qemu but VB looks cool and might be easier in the long run. Kate

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Impressed with Trinity
by Edward 26 Nov '20

26 Nov '20

Now that I have had a chance to try out Trinity for a couple of weeks, with PCLinuxOS and (in a VirtualBox) Ubuntu, I am impressed with it. It's using no where near the amount of RAM that Fedora (my previous distro) used and on both desktops, despite being nine and 11 years old, Trinity runs very fast (yes, even with TDE/Ubuntu in a VB). Excellent work. :) -- This message was sent using virtual technology.

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New Build Updates & Questions (Avengers Assemble Update - Solved & Concluded)
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 25 Nov '20

25 Nov '20

Ok update on the audio card question. Card chosen = SB Audigy RX - 100% natively supported. Please note this card has an optical io port that is ON by default when first installed. Turn it off to activate the 1/8 jacks. Otherwise there will be no signal out or in (no audio/mic/ or linein). The sound quality is as good as the card it replaced which is now in Gary's (brother from another mother) computer. He's having fun. Sadly, the RX, doesn't have a break out box like the Platinum does, so I have to make one. No biggy, 3 wires in a project box. According to the headaches I gave out freely at Creative Labs and a variety of other source. Any emu10kx chip is native on linux and, infact, has better support than mac and windows. Yeeeah for us. So.. solved, concluded, moving on (if anyone has any question please feel free to ask). Next... As I said I'm rebuilding me 20 year old machine. Here's a basics parts list. Asus Prime x299-a 2 (great bloody board) 32G Corsair RAM (32K I think) Intel Core i9-10980XE Cascade Lake 3.0 GHz LGA 2066 The computer has 7 hard drives, 1 BR optical drive (the board has 8 sata ports). 1 Seagate (sg) 500g ssd root / boot drive (sda) 1 sg 2tb ssd home (sdb) 5 (ssd & spin drives) are work drives and archives for redudant backups. Then there are 2 hotswap bays with can hold 2 drives a piece on an addon pci-e sata controller. The board uses uefi. So, I'd like some advice on the sda drive setup. Here's what I was going for essentially. Swap = 32G (I know it seems like overkill but lots of 4k video work so it helps plus need to hibernate). ESP partition of vfat32 / XX mbs. There's the first question, how big should it be? Test install is using 32mb. No other OSes will be installed. The remaining space will be used for / and all the software. sda1 = swap - 32g sda2 = esp - xx size sda3 = / - remaining space Second question, partition order. Good or are there better arrangements. sb1 /home (in case anyone needs to know). All input is welcomed. As always, thank you again collective, Kate

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Packages of pinentry in pinentry-tqt flavor
by Slávek Banko 25 Nov '20

25 Nov '20

Hi all, for those who are not subscribed to tde-announcements, you might be interested in information about pinetry-tqt packages: https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/announcements@trin… Cheers Slávek --

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Re: New Build Updates & Questions (Avengers Assemble Update - Solved & Concluded)
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 24 Nov '20

24 Nov '20

> On 11/24/20 5:56 PM, BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote: > > > >>> Ok word of warning. > >>> > >>> If you suddenly lose a sata port, move the card. > >>> It's ok to put a x1 into a x4, 8 and 16 slot. > >>> Also, if you don't get any sound out of it, but it's completely detected, > >>> make sure the optical port option is OFF. You'll find that in the > >>> switches section of kmix. > >>> > >>> let us know how it goes, > >>> > >>> Kate > >> Thanks for this info. The PC (strangely) only came with two PCI-E x1 > >> (non-open-ended) slots, despite that system being two years *newer* than > >> this one (which has two PCI-E x1, one x16 and one legacy PCI). > >> > >> One of the x1 slots in the other PC is being used by the network card. > >> ____________________________________________________ > > Wait you don't have any x16 slots? > > > > As for kscd, I needed to delete the old configs and reinstall the associated > > packages and now I can play an audio cd. Thank you Slavek. > > > > Kate > > Two x1 slots: > > https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c03054469 > > FWIW, when I inquired on the local Linux group's listserv about a > Radeon-based video card for an x1 slot, one of the respondents said it > was the first time he had heard of a PC shipping with *only* x1 slots. > > ____________________________________________________ I understand now. Proprietary computer makers, like to limit upgradability to encourage new sales. It's still a usable board. I see it as a challenge. Kate

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Re: New Build Updates & Questions (Avengers Assemble Update - Solved & Concluded)
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 24 Nov '20

24 Nov '20

> On 11/24/20 3:29 PM, deloptes via tde-users wrote: > > Edward via tde-users wrote: > > > >> I have not yet put the card in, but had a thought... The sound cards > >> from that era, have a jack where an audio cable connected it to the > >> CD/DVD drive. Where the card would override the on-board audio once > >> installed, would that audio cable still be necessary today, or would > >> today's motherboards know to route the audio from the CD/DVD through the > >> motherboard, directly to the sound card? I haven't actually looked at > >> the back of the DVD drive to see if it even has that connection on it. > >> That system is from 2009. > > I do not think modern drives have it - you can easily diagnose it by > > observing the front panel of the drive - if it has an audio jack, it can > > independently play audio. > > > > Applications such as kscd would work with the data being read from the > > drive. I do not know why Kate would say kscd needs an audio cable. > > I guess kscd is able to control the drive (play/pause etc.), so that if you > > have a CD player you could just tell it play and listen on the audio jack > > of the player. However it should be working as a player too - playing the > > cdrom. Last time I tried few months ago it worked nicely. > > The drive does not have an audio jack on the front. > > ____________________________________________________ kscd will control the hardware but it needs a optical drive to audio card audio cable to play the output. You can test it yourself. I think Ed was talking about the back cable not the audio out front panel port some optical drive had. Kate

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Re: New Build Updates & Questions (Avengers Assemble Update - Solved & Concluded)
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 24 Nov '20

24 Nov '20

> On 11/23/20 3:41 PM, BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote: > > On Monday 23 November 2020, Edward via tde-users wrote: > >> On 11/23/20 11:40 AM, BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote: > >>> Ok update on the audio card question. > >>> > >>> Card chosen = SB Audigy RX - 100% natively supported. Please note this > >>> card has an optical io port that is ON by default when first > >>> installed. Turn it off to activate the 1/8 jacks. Otherwise there will > >>> be no signal out or in (no audio/mic/ or linein). > >>> > >>> The sound quality is as good as the card it replaced which is now in > >>> Gary's (brother from another mother) computer. He's having fun. Sadly, > >>> the RX, doesn't have a break out box like the Platinum does, so I have > >>> to make one. No biggy, 3 wires in a project box. > >>> > >>> According to the headaches I gave out freely at Creative Labs and a > >>> variety of other source. Any emu10kx chip is native on linux and, > >>> infact, has better support than mac and windows. Yeeeah for us. > >>> > >>> So.. solved, concluded, moving on (if anyone has any question please > >>> feel free to ask). > >> This is good to know. I had been looking at my Creative Sound Blaster > >> Live! 5.1 (legacy PCI) sound card, which I believe has a year in the > >> early 2000's shown on its printed circuit board and have been > >> contemplating installing it in the other desktop, just to see if it > >> still works and if the audio is better than what's provided from the > >> on-board (NVIDIA). > >> > >> ____________________________________________________ > > I have tons of those and they all work perfectly. In fact, this machine has > > one Live! 5.1 and it's working grand. > > > > Go for it. > > > > Kate > > I have not yet put the card in, but had a thought... The sound cards > from that era, have a jack where an audio cable connected it to the > CD/DVD drive. Where the card would override the on-board audio once > installed, would that audio cable still be necessary today, or would > today's motherboards know to route the audio from the CD/DVD through the > motherboard, directly to the sound card? I haven't actually looked at > the back of the DVD drive to see if it even has that connection on it. > That system is from 2009. > > ____________________________________________________ Hi Ed, The cable is no longer needed. It's handled by software. The only app I think might need it is kscd. I'll check and get back to you. Kate

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No online audio with Trinity Ubuntu 20.04 Image
by Edward 24 Nov '20

24 Nov '20

I wanted to try the Trinity Debian image on my other desktop. Although the system sounds work, if I installed (into RAM) Firefox and went to multimedia web sites (YouTube, audio test sites, etc), there is no audio. The 'lspci -v' command is showing two audio devices: 00:05.0 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation MCP61 High Definition Audio (rev a2) Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 2a6c Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 23 Memory at fe028000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K] Capabilities: <access denied> Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel 02:00.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Cedar HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 5400/6300/7300 Series] Subsystem: VISIONTEK Device aa68 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 28 Memory at fdcfc000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K] Capabilities: <access denied> Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel The Trinity PCLinuxOS image is installed on this desktop's hard drive and audio works everywhere. KMix lists three mixers, PulseAudio (the default), HDA NVidia and HDA ATI HDMI. The AMD entry is actually a PCI-E x16 video card, with VGA, HDMI and DVI inputs. It's connected to a monitor via HDMI, but the monitor does not have built-in speakers. The NVIDIA entry is the on-board audio. I tried restarting the audio system by checking then un-checking a box, but on the Debian image, this didn't correct the lack of audio. Is the Debian software possibly not recognizing the audio setup correctly, even though the system sounds work? Thanks in advance.

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