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Fedora 30
by Rick Ellis 29 Jul '19

29 Jul '19

Fedora 30 has been out for a while now. Will there be packages for it sometime soon?

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TDE keyboard layout crashes when clicked on systray icon
by Stefan Krusche 27 Jul '19

27 Jul '19

Good day everyone, has anybody seen this? I prepared a bug report. I'm not sure where I should post it these days… TGW rather than bugzilla, I guess, right? Problem: When I click on the systray icon the xserver crashes fatally. TDE configuration: TDE keyboard layout is configured to provide de, de-neo, en-us keyboard layouts in that order. Keyboard layouts are applied at program level. Reproduce: Click on desktop and/or program window and then click on keyboard layout icon in systray. Symptoms: The screen goes black immediately and I have no more control via keyboard or mouse. After ~20-25 seconds I can hear a beep from the mainboard (it's a desktop PC), after another ~10-15 seconds I hear another beep, and sometimes a third one, after which a console screen appears from which I gather that Xorg crashed fatally. Any advice welcome, thanks. Kind regards, Stefan

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Tmux in Konsole = screen corruption in Debian Buster
by Jan Stolarek 27 Jul '19

27 Jul '19

I noticed another problem after a recent update to Debian Buster: using Tmux in Konsole leads to screen corruption. More specifically, cleaning the screen (e.g. via Ctrl+L) does not work, leaving the screen garbled. At first I thought that this might have something to do with my tmux or .bashrc, but removing their config and running both bash and tmux on default settings leads to same results. Also, I noticed that the problem is only present in Konsole - other terminal emulators (e.g. xterm, lxterminal) work fine. Anyone knows a workaround? Janek --- Politechnika Łódzka Lodz University of Technology Treść tej wiadomości zawiera informacje przeznaczone tylko dla adresata. Jeżeli nie jesteście Państwo jej adresatem, bądź otrzymaliście ją przez pomyłkę prosimy o powiadomienie o tym nadawcy oraz trwałe jej usunięcie. This email contains information intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient or if you have received this message in error, please notify the sender and delete it from your system.

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[trinity-users] A stop job is running for Trinity Display Manager (## / 1min 30s)
by Felix Miata 25 Jul '19

25 Jul '19

I'm encountering this shutdown delay too frequently. What causes it? Current instance is on Buster, host fi965. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/

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Just discovered X-Face and that it is supported in TDE
by deloptes 24 Jul '19

24 Jul '19

this is a test for it :)

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to adjust the brigtness of the screen
by andre_debian＠numericable.fr 24 Jul '19

24 Jul '19

Hello, ls -al /sys/class//backlight/ intel_backlight -> ../../devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/drm/card0/card0-eDP-1/intel_backlight ls -al /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/ no file xbacklight is installed. To adjust the brigtness : Menu => Trinity Configuration Center => Périphériques => Hardware Device Manager => Backlight => Intel HD Graphics 520 and I can adjust the brightness from 0 to 100%, but the value is not keeped if I close the session. The default value = 62% This is the situation. Regards, André

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Trinity won't start after updating Arch Linux - workaround for libice
by Snidely Whiplash 23 Jul '19

23 Jul '19

I just subscribed so I could post this workaround. It took me days to figure out what was actually wrong with the libice in Archaroo (I use Manjaro, but it's Arch's PGKBUILDS that they use for these packages). It's misleading because of the "ICE connection refused! No supported authentication protocols" etc. What happened is that the location of ICEauthority has been changed to /run/user/UID/ICEauthority (which is $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR) from ~/.ICEauthority and it doesn't jibe. Blank files are being created in both locations, that don't get the magic cookie data written to them. A workaround is to simply set an ICEAUTHORITY environment variable... export ICEAUTHORITY=/home/yourname/.ICEauthority I just added that variable to the top of my ~/.xinitrc file that I use with startx export ICEAUTHORITY=/home/grogan/.ICEauthority exec starttde I am using current git sources for trinity, and that workaround works for me. I love Trinity by the way, it's my favourite desktop in the world. (I liked KDE 3.x back in the day).

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Re: [trinity-users] Just discovered X-Face and that it is supported in TDE
by J Leslie Turriff 23 Jul '19

23 Jul '19

On 2019-07-23 15:43:00 deloptes wrote: > this is a test for it :) > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > trinity-users-unsubscribe(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net For additional > commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net Read list > messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ > Please remember not to top-post: > http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting It supposedly causes the mail or news reader "display the face before the From header". Seems to have no effect in kmail... Ah, my mistake; in the header of your post I see a black square on the right. How useful...

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Trinity won't start after updating Arch Linux
by Lucas dos Santos 23 Jul '19

23 Jul '19

Hi, I just installed Trinity R14.0.5 [1] in a recently installed Arch Linux based system and I'm not able to start the DM. I added 'exec starttde' line to .xinitrc and made the needed changes in my PATH variable, but, when I issue startx command, TDE won't open. Instead, the following message is shown: ----------- There was an error setting up inter-process communications for TDE. The message returned by the system was: Could not read network connection list. /home/username/.DCOPserver_hostname__0 Please check that the "dcopserver program is running! ---------- When I click 'OK', the TDE's splash screen appears, but the first icon keeps flash infinitely and the above mentioned message appears again underneath them. When I click on splash screen, it disappears and when I click in OK again, X exits to tty. The following video shows exactly what occurs: https://streamable.com/mlqy3 This is the output from starttde command: $ starttde [starttde] Starting starttde. [starttde] This script is /opt/trinity/bin/starttde [starttde] TDE version is R14.0.5 [starttde] TDE base directory is /opt/trinity [starttde] TDEHOME is not set. [starttde] Set TDEHOME to /home/lucas/.trinity. [starttde] Setting TDEROOTHOME to /root/.trinity. [starttde] XDG_DATA_DIRS: /opt/trinity/share:/usr/local/share:/usr/share gpg-agent: a gpg-agent is already running - not starting a new one [starttde] TDEDIR: /opt/trinity [starttde] TDEDIRS: [starttde] Starting Trinity... [starttde] Trinity hardware control dbus daemon running. [tdeinit] Launched DCOPServer, pid = 744 result = 0 /usr/bin/iceauth: creating new authority file /run/user/1000/ICEauthority [dcopserver] ICE Connection rejected! DCOPClient::attachInternal. Attach failed Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed [dcopserver] ICE Connection rejected! DCOPClient::attachInternal. Attach failed Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed [dcopserver] DCOPServer self-test failed. [tdeinit] DCOPServer could not be started, aborting. [starttde] TDE_FULL_SESSION: true [starttde] TDE_SESSION_UID: 1000 [tdeinit] Launched DCOPServer, pid = 759 result = 0 [dcopserver] ICE Connection rejected! DCOPClient::attachInternal. Attach failed Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed [dcopserver] ICE Connection rejected! DCOPClient::attachInternal. Attach failed Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed [dcopserver] DCOPServer self-test failed. [tdeinit] DCOPServer could not be started, aborting. [starttde] tdeinit started successfully. [tdeinit wrapper] Warning: socket connection failed: : Connection refused [tdecore-tdeapplication] Found visual with alpha support [tdecore-tdeapplication] Found visual with alpha support [tdeinit] Launched DCOPServer, pid = 769 result = 0 [dcopserver] ICE Connection rejected! DCOPClient::attachInternal. Attach failed Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed [dcopserver] ICE Connection rejected! DCOPClient::attachInternal. Attach failed Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed [dcopserver] DCOPServer self-test failed. [tdeinit] DCOPServer could not be started, aborting. [KSMServer] Could not register with DCOPServer. Aborting. ERROR: Couldn't attach to DCOP server! [starttde] Shutting down Trinity... [tdeinit wrapper] Warning: socket connection failed: : Connection refused [tdeinit wrapper] Error: Can't contact tdeinit! [starttde] Running Trinity shutdown scripts... [starttde] Running /opt/trinity/shutdown/agent-shutdown.sh. [starttde] Trinity shutdown complete. Deleting files from ~/.trinity and /tmp directories [2] doesn't solve the problem. I have an old installation of Arch Linux in a virtual machine where Trinity works perfectly. So, I decided to play around with it and do some tests. That system was a little outdated. Thus I decided to do a pacman -Syu in order to update the system's packages. After updating, I no more could to start Trinity. It looks like that a new version from some package is breaking Trinity. Which one? I have no idea! But, I saved a list of the updated packages and also a list of packages' version before updating. Maybe some of you could try to find what package is causing the problem. Trinity works fine with the following packages' version: argon2-20171227-3 audit-2.8.5-2 btrfs-progs-5.1-1 bzip2-1.0.6-8 ca-certificates-mozilla-3.44-1 cmake-3.14.5-1 curl-7.65.1-2 dbus-1.12.14-1 dhcpcd-7.2.1-1 e2fsprogs-1.45.2-1 expat-2.2.6-1 ffmpeg-1:4.1.3-1 firefox-67.0.2-1 freetype2-2.10.0-2 gcc-8.3.0-1 gcc-libs-8.3.0-1 glib2-2.60.4-1 glibc-2.29-1 gnupg-2.2.16-1 gnutls-3.6.8-1 gpgme-1.13.0-1 grub-2:2.02-8 gtk-update-icon-cache-1:3.24.8+177+gae2ef1472c-1 gtk3-1:3.24.8+177+gae2ef1472c-1 guile-2.2.4-2 harfbuzz-2.5.1-1 iana-etc-20190531-1 iproute2-5.1.0-1 iptables-1:1.8.2-1 iso-codes-4.2-1 js60-60.7.0-1 kidletime-5.59.0-1 kwayland-5.59.0-1 kwindowsystem-5.59.0-1 lcms2-2.9-1 less-550-1 libarchive-3.3.3-1 libblockdev-2.21-1 libdrm-2.4.98-1 libice-1.0.9-2 libinput-1.13.2-1 libkscreen-5.16.0-1 libnftnl-1.1.1-1 libpciaccess-0.14-1 libqtxdg-3.3.1-3 libraw-0.19.2-1 libssh-0.8.7-1 libtool-2.4.6+42+gb88cebd5-3 libtorrent-rasterbar-1:1.1.12-1 libutil-linux-2.33.2-1 libuv-1.29.1-1 libva-2.4.1-1 libvpx-1.8.0-1 libwebp-1.0.2-1 libx11-1.6.7-1 libxi-1.7.9-2 libxt-1.1.5-2 libyaml-0.2.1-1 libzip-1.5.2-1 linux-5.1.9.arch1-1 linux-api-headers-5.0.7-1 linux-firmware-20190514.711d329-1 mesa-19.0.6-1 nano-4.2-1 nettle-3.4.1-1 nss-3.44-1 opera-60.0.3255.170-1 perl-5.30.0-2 polkit-0.116-1 proj-5.2.0-1 qt5-base-5.12.3-2 qt5-script-5.12.3-1 qt5-svg-5.12.3-1 qt5-x11extras-5.12.3-1 solid-5.59.0-1 sqlite-3.28.0-1 systemd-242.29-1 systemd-libs-242.29-1 systemd-sysvcompat-242.29-1 tzdata-2019a-1 udisks2-2.8.2-1 util-linux-2.33.2-1 wget-1.20.3-1 x265-3.0-1 xorg-fonts-encodings-1.0.4-5 xorg-server-1.20.5-1 xorg-server-common-1.20.5-1 xorg-server-devel-1.20.5-1 xorg-server-xdmx-1.20.5-1 xorg-server-xephyr-1.20.5-1 xorg-server-xnest-1.20.5-1 xorg-server-xvfb-1.20.5-1 xorg-server-xwayland-1.20.5-1 xorg-setxkbmap-1.3.1-2 xorg-xauth-1.0.10-2 xorg-xbacklight-1.2.2-1 xorg-xclock-1.0.8-1 xorg-xinput-1.6.2-2 xorg-xwininfo-1.1.4-1 xorgproto-2018.4-1 xscreensaver-5.42-1 xterm-346-1 But, if I upgrade that packages, Trinity won't start. These are the current packages' version: argon2-20190702-1 audit-2.8.5-3 btrfs-progs-5.2-1 bzip2-1.0.8-2 ca-certificates-mozilla-3.45-1 cmake-3.15.0-1 curl-7.65.1-3 dbus-1.12.16-1 dhcpcd-7.2.2-1 e2fsprogs-1.45.3-1 expat-2.2.7-1 ffmpeg-1:4.1.4-1 firefox-68.0.1-2 freetype2-2.10.1-1 gcc-9.1.0-2 gcc-libs-9.1.0-2 glib2-2.60.5-1 glibc-2.29-3 gnupg-2.2.17-2 gnutls-3.6.8-3 gpgme-1.13.1-1 grub-2:2.04-1 gtk-update-icon-cache-1:3.24.10-1 gtk3-1:3.24.10-1 guile-2.2.6-1 harfbuzz-2.5.3-1 iana-etc-20190702-1 iproute2-5.2.0-1 iptables-1:1.8.3-1 iso-codes-4.3-1 js60-60.8.0-1 kidletime-5.60.0-1 kwayland-5.60.0-1 kwindowsystem-5.60.0-1 lcms2-2.9-2 less-551-1 libarchive-3.4.0-2 libblockdev-2.22-1 libdrm-2.4.99-1 libice-1.0.10-1 libinput-1.13.4-1 libkscreen-5.16.3-1 libnftnl-1.1.3-1 libpciaccess-0.16-1 libqtxdg-3.3.1-5libraw-0.19.3-1 libssh-0.9.0-1 libtool-2.4.6+42+gb88cebd5-4 libtorrent-rasterbar-1:1.1.13-1 libutil-linux-2.34-3 libuv-1.30.1-1 libva-2.5.0-1 libvpx-1.8.1-1 libwebp-1.0.3-1 libx11-1.6.8-1 libxi-1.7.10-1 libxt-1.2.0-1 libyaml-0.2.2-1 libzip-1.5.2-2 linux-5.2.1.arch1-1 linux-api-headers-5.1-1 linux-firmware-20190712.d52556e-1 mesa-19.1.2-1 qt5-base-5.13.0-7 qt5-script-5.13.0-1 qt5-svg-5.13.0-1 qt5-x11extras-5.13.0-1 solid-5.60.0-1 sqlite-3.29.0-1 systemd-242.32-3 systemd-libs-242.32-3 systemd-sysvcompat-242.32-3 tzdata-2019b-1 udisks2-2.8.3-1 util-linux-2.34-3 wget-1.20.3-2 x265-3.1.1-1 xorg-fonts-encodings-1.0.5-1 xorg-server-1.20.5-2 xorg-server-common-1.20.5-2 xorg-server-devel-1.20.5-2 xorg-server-xdmx-1.20.5-2 xorg-server-xephyr-1.20.5-2 xorg-server-xnest-1.20.5-2 xorg-server-xvfb-1.20.5-2 xorg-server-xwayland-1.20.5-2 xorg-setxkbmap-1.3.2-1 xorg-xauth-1.1-1 xorg-xbacklight-1.2.3-1 xorg-xclock-1.0.9-1 xorg-xinput-1.6.3-1 xorg-xwininfo-1.1.5-1 xorgproto-2019.1-1 xscreensaver-5.43-1 xterm-347-1 I don't know if this is a Trinity or Arch Linux issue, but the fact is that I'm unable to use TDE. If at least I knew what package is causing this I could temporarily keep outdated until this problem is solved. Thanks for your attention. NOTES: [1] http://repo.nasutek.com/arch/contrib/trinity/x86_64/ [2] https://www.trinitydesktop.org/faq/install.php#greyscreen

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Beowulf error
by Pisini, John 23 Jul '19

23 Jul '19

So I decided to try out Devuan Beowulf this weekend and got it installed no issues did run into a few minor issues but I was able to work through them. So I added the following to my sources list: deb http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity-sb beowulf deps-r14 main-r14 Which I believe is correct if not let me know as I know there is no stable and I have had good luck with the preliminary stable branch. I do an apt-get update and I get the following: Conflicting distribution: http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity-sb beowulf InRelease (expected beowulf but got buster) Not sure why I am getting it. It looks like I could still do the install as a search shows all the packages but I am not sure if I should or not. I am in XFCE right now but would prefer Trinity.

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