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For TDE upgrade to R14.0.5 should any TDE packages be held back?
by Michael 18 Aug '18

18 Aug '18

My day to ask the list odd questions??? Is it normal to have these TDE packages being held back (below)? A few of them seem sorta ‘mission critical?’ I’m running a full backup tonight, but I’d rather not spend the next two days installing/re-building from scratch if I don’t have too... Best All, Michael Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS 4.2.0-27-generic #32~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP x86_64 GNU/Linux # apt-get upgrade The following packages have been kept back: kcontrol-trinity kdesktop-trinity kfind-trinity kicker-trinity konq-plugins-trinity konqueror-trinity kpersonalizer-trinity ksmserver-trinity ksplash-engine-moodin-trinity ksplash-trinity linux-generic-lts-wily linux-headers-generic linux-headers-generic-lts-wily linux-image-generic-lts-wily tdeaddons-trinity tdebase-data-trinity tdebase-tdeio-plugins-trinity tdebase-trinity-bin tdm-trinity The following packages will be upgraded: adept-batch-trinity adept-common-trinity adept-installer-trinity {snip} twin-style-crystal-trinity twin-trinity 160 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 19 not upgraded.

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Why trinity menu is a so big garbage
by Christian Laborde 17 Aug '18

17 Aug '18

And no item for firefox and thunderbird !!! -- Sauver le climat ou sauver le système, il faut choisir. La Révolution citoyenne, c'est sur : http://c.lab.over-blog.com/ Les citoyens qui voient Net : http://www.netoyens.info Christian Laborde Chemin de Bahyse 30 CH 1091 Chenaux Suisse

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Installing TDE in Devuan
by Robert Peters 16 Aug '18

16 Aug '18

Hello, This has maybe been covered in several places - can someone point me to a simple guide on how to do this? I installed the latest Devuan from USB to an AMD64 laptop. Tried following instructions on Trinity website but keep seeing broken tde packages in Synaptic and aptitude. Maybe I'm using an invalid combination of repositories and distributions. Thanks in advance - RP

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Desktops Icewm and TDE
by andre_debian＠numericable.fr 16 Aug '18

16 Aug '18

Hello, Somebody told me on tnis list, that TDE was based on Icewm. (if I understood correctly). I tried Icewm, according to me of course, it is not so good than TDE. far behind, I cannot use it. Good evening, andré

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Re: Re: [trinity-users] file managers in TDE (was: new thread - the glory that is TDE)
by Kate Draven 16 Aug '18

16 Aug '18

> On Wednesday 15 August 2018 23:38:14 Robert Peters wrote: > > > Re file managers, how do people evaluate Krusader? So far it's my > > favorite, but maybe I'm missing out on something. > > -R > > I use the original bull, the ncurses based mc. In comparison, krusader > has a nice pretty face, but its a steer, lacking the tools to do 90% of > what mc can do. I guess as someone approaching his 20th year of an > exclusively linux house, that dates me as an old fart. Guilty. I've had > the great good fortune to have, at 83, outlived all but one of my > enemies, (insert pregnant pause) me. :) > > -- > Cheers, Gene Heskett > -- > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > -Ed Howdershelt (Author) > Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- Cheers lad. Glad to have you here. Kate

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Is there a way to copy weird named files form Konqueror?
by Thierry de Coulon 16 Aug '18

16 Aug '18

Hello all, That's probably not a Trinity problem, but I'd love to solve it under Trinity. I recently ordered a double CD with music from Albinoni (not that he has anything to do with my problem). When I inserted the CD it mounted and, to my amazement, I saw that there were directories with compresed files, including ogg-vorbis files (which is the format I store my music in). However, the amazement was short-lived. All these files have names as: Albinoni, Tomaso - 01 - Concerto No. 1 for Violin in B flat major, Op. 9%2F1: 1. Allegro.ogg And konqueror does not manage to copy them. I can rip them with k3b, but I find it frustrating that the files are there and I can't use them :) Thierry

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Re: Re: [trinity-users] file managers in TDE (was: new thread - the glory
by Kate Draven 16 Aug '18

16 Aug '18

> Re file managers, how do people evaluate Krusader? So far it's my > favorite, but maybe I'm missing out on something. > -R > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- As a file manager / servicemenu app launcher / ftp / audiocd ripper / image viewer and sometimes browser, konqueror has never failed me. I love konq. That said, I use Krusader as an archiving tool. In that respect, it excels. In general is a good straight forward file manager, but to me, it's an archiver. Then there's the essential and immortal MC, the little hero. Kate

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Re: Re: [trinity-users] Desktops Icewm and TDE
by Kate Draven 16 Aug '18

16 Aug '18

> On 08/14/2018 03:01 PM, andre_debian(a)numericable.fr wrote: > > Somebody told me on tnis list, that TDE was based on Icewm. > > (if I understood correctly). > > Chuckling.... (you didn't) > > That would be the same as saying KDE was based on IceWm. IceWm as well = > as > Blackbox (and its forks, Fluxbox, Openbox, etc.. -- the boxtops) were ori= > ginal > code. Neither were Qt3 based. TDE was a continuation of KDE3 based on Qt3= > . > Information and history on all are available online (Wikipedia is a good = > start). > > While both IceWm and Blackbox (and its progeny) are very, very good win= > dow > managers, they are not "Desktop Environments". That is a critical distinc= > tion. > > KDE and Gnome were considered desktop environments as they included a n= > ice > set of integrated desktop applications (terminals, editors, calculators, = > color > choosers, file managers, etc..) with a common look and feel provided by t= > he > toolkits they use (Qt3 in the case of KDE3 and Gtk+2 in the case of Gnome= > 2, etc..) > > TDE continued the mature KDE3 build on Qt3, that kde.org basically > "left-for-dead" when it went chasing this pipe-dream of Qt4 widgets makin= > g the > world a better place to live. (much as Gtk+3 did with Gtk+2/glade when it= > ran > off with GtkBuildable and css styling of objects) > > TDE, in an inspired bit of forethought, was written with a somewhat too= > lkit > agnostic tqtinterface layer to prevent being limited to Qt3 only. However= > , > since KDE4 has become synonymous with "How to totally botch a desktop", t= > he > impetus on toolkit flexibility has lost a bit of necessity. Qt3 was a rob= > ust > and well written toolkit and there nothing it lacks inherently and what > security and maintenance is needed is provided in-house. > > So in short, TDE was a continuation of KDE 3.5.10 which was left for de= > ad by > kde.org and relegated to desktop history. Now kde.org has abandoned KDE4 = > and > "left-it-for-dead" (though it that case, I doubt you will see anyone run = > in to > try and save it....) > > Those intimately familiar with desktops, recognized what had been achie= > ved > with KDE3 was special, in terms of flexibility and efficiency and the hum= > an > factors taken into the desktop design that minimize the keystrokes or > mouse-clicks required to do a task, and how that philosophy shared by the= > team > created not only the desktop interface itself, but was also evident in ea= > ch of > the applications developed as a part of the project. KDE3 was the result = > of > that ground-up process, the desktop and all of the application that made = > up > the environment benefiting from that process in terms of usability and ef= > ficiency. > > It is something that can never be captured in a "Let's move to a new to= > olkit > and port all the applications over" effort. Every time that has been > attempted, it invariably results is a "just get it ported and working... = > and > let's get a release out" mentality that cannot, and will never, achieve t= > he > same efficiency or usability that a ground-up design did. Thus KDE4 could= > n't > and Plasma never will match the elegance, the integration or the usabilty= > of > the KDE3 desktop environment. > > TDE continues the best of KDE3 -- that's why you are here. > > --=20 > David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- Well said prof. Umm, may I have me soapbox back now? Kate Seriously, well said.

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Re: Re: [trinity-users] Is there a way to copy weird named files form Konqueror?
by Kate Draven 15 Aug '18

15 Aug '18

> On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 08:49:50PM +0200, Thierry de Coulon wrote: > > [...] > > All these files have names as: > > > > Albinoni, Tomaso - 01 - Concerto No. 1 for Violin in B flat major, Op. 9%2F1: > > 1. Allegro.ogg > > > > And konqueror does not manage to copy them. > > How are you trying to copy them? What steps do you take and what happens > when you try it? > > Under Linux, I see no reason why you can't copy that file. I created a > test file like this in the shell (bash): > > touch "Albinoni concerto%2F1:1. Allegro.ogg" > > > opened my home directory in Konquorer, single-clicked on the file, typed > Ctrl-C to copy, moved to another directory and typed Ctrl-V to paste, > and the file copied fine. Unless there's a bug in your version of Konq > which mine doesn't have, it should be able to deal with file names > containing spaces, colons and percent signs easily. > > If that doesn't work, do you get an explicit error message? > > If so, try copying the files using bash. Open a terminal, and cd to the > directory where the CD is mounted. I don't know what that will be on > your system, but it could be something like this: > > cd /media/DISK > > say. You could try listing the contents of /media or /mnt to find out > for sure where the CD is mounted. > > Once you have cd'ed into the right place, try viewing the files > to ensure they are real files: > > ls -lh *.ogg > > > Assuming they aren't all zero-length, check that they're readable: > > hexdump Albinoni*1.\ Allegro.ogg | less > > ought to do it. If you get a screen full of hex codes like this: > > 0166bd0 8db8 6716 e0bd 9243 4775 6eb0 9f2c a246 > 0166be0 c276 8580 d85f 987e 585c fa07 bfe8 4814 > 0166bf0 b59a 401d 8668 830a 5b35 e56c 670a 27bf > 0166c00 53a5 a55b 563b 78de b3c7 69bc 1600 83b7 > > it looks good. Hit the Q key to exit and try copying the files to a new > folder in your home directory: > > mkdir ~/Albinoni > cp *.ogg ~/Albinoni > > Do the files copy now? If not, what's the error message? > > > > -- > Steve > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- You can try this too. Make sure there are no "white" spaces in front of the file and dir name. Change the dir name from Albinoni, Tomaso - 01 - Concerto No. 1 for Violin in B flat major, Op. 9%2F1 To Albinoni_Tomaso_-_01_-_Concerto_No_1_for_Violin_in_B_flat_majorP_Op_9_2F1 Then try again. Kate

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All my folders displayed on desktop
by Christian Laborde 15 Aug '18

15 Aug '18

Hello I'm testing openSUSE 15 and trinity. I copy my kde 3.5 profile in trinity and all my folders are displayed on my desktop.I check the trinity config, but I have not found where there is an option for this. Have you an idea ? -- Sauver le climat ou sauver le système, il faut choisir. La Révolution citoyenne, c'est sur : http://c.lab.over-blog.com/ Les citoyens qui voient Net : http://www.netoyens.info Christian Laborde Chemin de Bahyse 30 CH 1091 Chenaux Suisse

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