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update this morning=347 pkgs from trinity?
by Gene Heskett 02 Aug '18

02 Aug '18

Greetings all; Not really fussing but 340 of them will never be used on this particular machine, Its running linuxcnc, eg no audio except maybe possibly a whispered beep from the computers own speaker. No tv either. But, I'll do this machine next, and it does have a problem, absolutely nothing in the menu's that can play an .mp3. I get the apps gui, and its animated likes its playing the .mp3, but nothing can coax a peep out of my speakers. The only cli app, aplay, reproduced it as 11 minutes of unmodulated pink noise. Does it seem possible to fix this? I had to hunt thru the bin directory's to find a copy of mplayer2 that would play it, sorta. .mp3 are always a little muddy, but this was very poorly done. The music wasn't too bad, but the voices weren't at all understandable. Have I forgotten just how crappy a 160 kilobit .mp3 sounds? A 44.1kilobit recording that alsa had to pump up to 48k, which probably didn't help. The original came from a windows machine that never heard how good an .ogg can sound. Traceing thru the linkage from /usr/bin/mplayer, a link that points back to /etc/alternatives/mplayer, which itself is a link to /usr/bin/mplayer1 which does not exist. Can this be fixed? That does seem to be the real problem, and its not something I can recall piddling with. -- Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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Touchscreen and Trinity Desktop
by andre_debian＠numericable.fr 01 Aug '18

01 Aug '18

Hello, Does a touchscreen computer work fine with the Trinity Desktop ? Thanks, regards, André

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Wiki Tips & Tricks
by Dr. Nikolaus Klepp 31 Jul '18

31 Jul '18

hi all! I've added a small howto to the wiki. it shows how to use filtering of kmail to modify incomming mails and how to decrypt encrypted mails so that they are stored unencrypted. (You might find this idea funny till you loose your gpg keys ...) https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Kmail_Sanitize_and_Decrypt_Mails BTW, is there a way to add an automatic index to the first page of the wiki? using the search function is a bit clumsy ... Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ...

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Local Icon Directory
by Kate Draven 31 Jul '18

31 Jul '18

Hi People! I feel like I've forgotten the keyboard for select all (Hyperdrive - see it). Here's the job. I want to use a local icon image dir within the use dir /home/foo/icon-collection and then have custom shortcuts use it. I've tried Icon=$HOME/icon-collection/coolicon.png Icon=~/icon-collection/coolicon.png I just want all custom shortcuts to point the same icon dir, regardless of user. I have to set up some machines for the senior centre. I don't want to have to write out each user. I know there's a way, but I can't seem to remember it or find it on google. It's likely something simple like ctrl A. I know I've used it before on red hate but I can't remember. I've already created a temporary cheat by symlinking the icon to /usr but I'd rather do it the right way. Thanks to all in advance. Kate -------------------------------------------------------

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Remove Evolution? (and any other stealth installed phone home services)
by Michael 29 Jul '18

29 Jul '18

Hi All, I’m running Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS, Trusty Tahr with TDE as my only desktop installed. I do have some Gnome (and probably KDE) odds and ends programs installed as well. I’ll also agree I’m pretty much a Luddite and have no desire for anything on my box talking to anyone on the Internet without my knowledge and express permission. tl:dr Q1: How do you find phone home services? Q2: How do you remove them? Q3: If Ubuntu isn’t it, what is? apt-get upgrade reported this morning that it wants to update “evolution-data-server-online-accounts.” Minor digging into wtf is this evolution thing (and why does it think it can phone home without me knowing it?) shows it’s a Gnome component that’s apparently very hard to remove. [a] In that digging I find several other services that seem to phone home without my knowledge or permission? michael@local [~]# ls -1 /usr/share/dbus-1/services {full list at [b]} com.google.code.AccountsSSO.SingleSignOn.service com.nokia.SingleSignOn.Backup.service com.nokia.singlesignonui.service and ??? musicstore-scope.service unity-scope-facebook.service unity-scope-flickr.service unity-scope-openclipart.service unity-scope-video-remote.service unity-scope-yelp.service Also in that digging, it seems that basically the only true way to get evolution (and its ilk) to stop bothering you is to: sudo mv /usr/lib/evolution /usr/lib/evolution-fu (see [a], Answer, “None of the above helped me”), which is a bit non-intuitive. Very cute though... I’m left with questions... Q1) With our resorting to something like Wireshark, how does one find all the packages that have phone home capabilities? Q2) As ‘apt-get --purge remove’ doesn’t seem to work all the time, what’s the safest way to remove/disable them? I went to Ubuntu (from CentOS) a couple years ago because it’s suppose to be ‘easier’ and it does do multimedia much better, but it doesn’t really seem to concern itself with customer ‘privacy.’ Q3) In the event this can’t be done in Ubuntu, is there a TDE supported *nix variation that may be ‘harder,’ but doesn’t just add a bunch of anti-privacy crap willy nilly? I guess I don’t really mind going back to (re)compiling things on each OS up-rev (libre, gimp, etc...), but it is a bit of a pita if there’s an alternative... Best and Thanks, Michael [a] https://askubuntu.com/questions/315640/how-do-i-completely-remove-evolution [b] michael@local [~]# ls -1 /usr/share/dbus-1/services ca.desrt.dconf.service com.canonical.certification.PlainBox1.service com.canonical.Friends.Dispatcher.service com.canonical.Friends.Service.service com.canonical.hud.service com.canonical.indicators.webcredentials.service com.canonical.Unity.Voice.service com.canonical.Unity.Webapps.Service.service com.canonical.webcredentials.capture.service com.google.code.AccountsSSO.SingleSignOn.service com.nokia.SingleSignOn.Backup.service com.nokia.singlesignonui.service com.ubuntu.OneConf.service com.ubuntu.SoftwareCenterDataProvider.service com.ubuntu.sso.service gnome-vfs-daemon.service gvfs-daemon.service gvfs-metadata.service indicator-keyboard.service music-preview-player.service musicstore-scope.service obex-client.service obex-data-server.service org.a11y.atspi.Registry.service org.a11y.Bus.service org.ayatana.bamf.service org.fedoraproject.Config.Printing.service org.freedesktop.ColorHelper.service org.freedesktop.FileManager1.service org.freedesktop.Geoclue.Master.service org.freedesktop.Geoclue.Providers.UbuntuGeoIP.service org.freedesktop.Notifications.service org.freedesktop.secrets.service org.freedesktop.Telepathy.AccountManager.service org.freedesktop.Telepathy.Client.Empathy.Auth.service org.freedesktop.Telepathy.Client.Empathy.Call.service org.freedesktop.Telepathy.Client.Empathy.Chat.service org.freedesktop.Telepathy.Client.Empathy.FileTransfer.service org.freedesktop.Telepathy.Client.Logger.service org.freedesktop.Telepathy.Client.Vino.service org.freedesktop.Telepathy.ConnectionManager.gabble.service org.freedesktop.Telepathy.ConnectionManager.haze.service org.freedesktop.Telepathy.ConnectionManager.idle.service org.freedesktop.Telepathy.ConnectionManager.salut.service org.freedesktop.Telepathy.Logger.service org.freedesktop.Telepathy.MissionControl5.service org.freedesktop.xesam.searcher.service org.gnome.Contacts.SearchProvider.service org.gnome.evince.Daemon.service org.gnome.evolution.dataserver.AddressBook.service org.gnome.evolution.dataserver.Calendar.service org.gnome.evolution.dataserver.Sources.service org.gnome.evolution.dataserver.UserPrompter.service org.gnome.FileRoller.service org.gnome.GConf.service org.gnome.gedit.service org.gnome.keyring.PrivatePrompter.service org.gnome.keyring.service org.gnome.keyring.SystemPrompter.service org.gnome.Nautilus.SearchProvider.service org.gnome.Nautilus.service org.gnome.Rhythmbox3.service org.gnome.ScreenSaver.service org.gnome.seahorse.Application.service org.gnome.zeitgeist.fts.service org.gnome.zeitgeist.service org.gtk.GLib.PACRunner.service org.gtk.Private.AfcVolumeMonitor.service org.gtk.Private.GPhoto2VolumeMonitor.service org.gtk.Private.MTPVolumeMonitor.service org.gtk.Private.UDisks2VolumeMonitor.service org.kde.knotify.service org.kde.kuiserver.service org.onboard-prediction.service sessioninstaller.service unity-lens-friends.service unity-scope-applications.service unity-scope-audacious.service unity-scope-calculator.service unity-scope-chromiumbookmarks.service unity-scope-clementine.service unity-scope-colourlovers.service unity-scope-devhelp.service unity-scope-facebook.service unity-scope-files-local.service unity-scope-firefoxbookmarks.service unity-scope-flickr.service unity-scope-gdrive.service unity-scope-gmusicbrowser.service unity-scope-gourmet.service unity-scope-guayadeque.service unity-scope-home.service unity-scope-manpages.service unity-scope-music.service unity-scope-musique.service unity-scope-openclipart.service unity-scope-picasa.service unity-scope-shotwell.service unity-scope-texdoc.service unity-scope-tomboy.service unity-scope-video-local.service unity-scope-video-remote.service unity-scope-virtualbox.service unity-scope-yelp.service unity-scope-zotero.service vandenoever.strigi.service

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Re: [trinity-users] Remove Evolution? (and any other stealth installed phone home services)
by midi-pascal 28 Jul '18

28 Jul '18

On 18-07-28 04:02 PM, Stefan Krusche wrote: > Hi Michael, > > Am Samstag 28 Juli 2018 schrieb Michael: >> Hi All, >> >> I’m running Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS, Trusty Tahr with TDE as my only desktop >> installed. I do have some Gnome (and probably KDE) odds and ends programs >> installed as well. >> >> I’ll also agree I’m pretty much a Luddite and have no desire for anything >> on my box talking to anyone on the Internet without my knowledge and >> express permission. >> >> tl:dr >> Q1: How do you find phone home services? >> Q2: How do you remove them? >> Q3: If Ubuntu isn’t it, what is? >> >> apt-get upgrade reported this morning that it wants to >> update “evolution-data-server-online-accounts.” >> >> Minor digging into wtf is this evolution thing (and why does it think it >> can phone home without me knowing it?) shows it’s a Gnome component that’s >> apparently very hard to remove. [a] >> >> In that digging I find several other services that seem to phone home >> without my knowledge or permission? > How do you know? .service files are, AFAICT, config files for systemd, or dbus, > in this case, maybe. These services may or may not be activated. To check their > status or stop them refer to the (systemd/dbus/service) documentation. > > To find out to which package one of these belongs you can do this in a shell: > > $ dkpg -S /usr/share/dbus-1/services/com.nokia.SingleSignOn.Backup.service > > Seems to belong to a package named "signond" whatever that is. I just gave it a > quick shot at my favorite search engine. > > https://gitlab.com/accounts-sso/signond says: > > "SignOn daemon > > The SignOn daemon is a D-Bus service which performs user authentication on > behalf of its clients. There are currently authentication plugins for OAuth 1.0 > and 2.0, SASL, Digest-MD5, and plain username/password combination." > > So this doesn't look like a phone home service but rather like a service for the > user which I'd expect to require to be activated by the user. OTOH, some > distros or programs come with undesirable defaults which you are not aware of > until you start looking for them, like firefox for example. > > But, that'd be a lot of work for all of these "suspicious" files, generally, I'd > rather choose software which I believe I can trust, or at least trust more than > the ones of which I know that they *are* data collecting and user behavior > tracking etc. > >> michael@local [~]# ls -1 /usr/share/dbus-1/services >> {full list at [b]} >> >> com.google.code.AccountsSSO.SingleSignOn.service >> com.nokia.SingleSignOn.Backup.service >> com.nokia.singlesignonui.service >> >> and ??? >> musicstore-scope.service >> unity-scope-facebook.service >> unity-scope-flickr.service >> unity-scope-openclipart.service >> unity-scope-video-remote.service >> unity-scope-yelp.service >> >> Also in that digging, it seems that basically the only true way to get >> evolution (and its ilk) to stop bothering you is to: >> >> sudo mv /usr/lib/evolution /usr/lib/evolution-fu >> >> (see [a], Answer, “None of the above helped me”), which is a bit >> non-intuitive. Very cute though... >> >> I’m left with questions... >> >> Q1) With our resorting to something like Wireshark, how does one find all >> the packages that have phone home capabilities? >> >> Q2) As ‘apt-get --purge remove’ doesn’t seem to work all the time, what’s >> the safest way to remove/disable them? > Why do you think it doesn't work? What output/error message do you get? I think > that should always work, may remove a couple of dependencies, though, which > should be indicated beforehand and asked for normally. > >> I went to Ubuntu (from CentOS) a couple years ago because it’s suppose to >> be ‘easier’ and it does do multimedia much better, but it doesn’t really >> seem to concern itself with customer ‘privacy.’ >> >> Q3) In the event this can’t be done in Ubuntu, is there a TDE supported >> *nix variation that may be ‘harder,’ but doesn’t just add a bunch of >> anti-privacy crap willy nilly? > TDE runs fine on Debian, Devuan, Arch Linux, SuseLinux and more, AFAIK. I'm > running Devuan and I'm pretty sure there's no "anti-privacy crap willy nilly" > which I haven't installed by myself ;) > > Kind regards, > Stefan > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net > For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net > Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ > Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting Hi, I had this same update advice on Ubuntu 14.04 this morning and I googled "Evolution" to see what it is. I immediately determined I dont't want this thing so I did a "dpkg -l | grep evolution". The command returned a bunch of packages related to evolution I dont't remember I installed so I removed all of them completely with Synaptic. Then I rebooted and nothing I need was missing so I conclude that it was a good occasion to remove crap I never I asked for :-) Regards, Pascal

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Slackware - Volkerding - libart_lgpl
by gregory guy 28 Jul '18

28 Jul '18

If some of you are Slackware devotees, looking at the last changelog (Fri Jul 27 21:01:22 UTC 2018) is huge relief, P.Volkerding is not any longer in need for money, at least at the short therm. Here is the changelog for the curious ones: http://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware64-current/ChangeLog.txt Following the next comment in the changelog, you'll see that libart_lgpl have been remove in "current", as a result we will have to install libart_lgpl provided by the trinity project as it comes, meaning no more "upgrade libart_lgpl" just plain "installpkg..." Regards. gregory

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info: in konqueror fails
by Stefan Krusche 25 Jul '18

25 Jul '18

Good day everyone, when I try to open info:coreutils/dd invocation in konqueror it fails with this error message: An error occurred while loading info:coreutils/dd invocation: Could not start process '/usr/bin/perl' '/opt/trinity/share/apps/tdeio_info/kde-info2html' '/opt/trinity/share/apps/tdeio_info/kde-info2html.conf' '/opt/trinity/share/icons/crystalsvg/22x22/actions' 'coreutils' 'dd invocation'. The mentioned files are all there. I may miss some package which I haven't installed as this is a new system but I can't figure out which one. Any advice or hint would be much appreciated. Thanks, Stefan

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[trinity-users] a stop job is running for Trinity Display Manager (xxx/1min30sec)
by Felix Miata 24 Jul '18

24 Jul '18

I encounter this highly annoying message and 90 second shutdown delay too often. Why does TDM object to cmdline shutdown or reboot commands from login on the vttys? How can it be stopped? The immediate inducement to write this comes from Buster, but it happens in Stretch and openSUSE too, both in UEFI and legacy contexts. -- "Wisdom is supreme; therefore get wisdom. Whatever else you get, get wisdom." Proverbs 4:7 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/

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switch user could be better
by Thierry de Coulon 21 Jul '18

21 Jul '18

I'm experimenting running some things with a seond user. It's possible to configure a key (in my case "Pause", which seems I never ever pressed in my life an does nothing otherwise) to do "swtch user". However, you then have to select this user (which the is locked, although I never asked for a lock). Would there be any way to have a "move to the next user" function? As I only have two users, I fon't need a choice :) Thierry

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