Have to load Trinity on a new machine with Debian 6, with internet - no
problems. Also have to update some machines running deb 5 KDE where there is
no internet and have a identical machine with internet access. Update no
problems (reload with wad of DVD's), not sure how to load Trinity
My linux/unix knowledge is not good although have used linux as a prime
desktop for 12 years but with not much debian experience.
Only idea at present is to run
apt-get -d install desktop-base-trinity kde-trinity >tdeload.
followed by
/var/cache/apt/archives to a DVD then -
on another machine to HD at /var/cache/apt/archives
EITHER
put /var/cache/apt/archives in sources.list
apt-get -install desktop-base-trinity kde-trinity
OR
cd /var/cache/apt/archives
dpkg -i desktop-base-trinity
dpkg -i kde-trinity
OR
redo tdeload. as script, in order, for dpkg
There is probably a better/easier method which I haven't thought of and don't
want to find problems which involve satphones
($$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ worse than that seattle mob)
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regards
John Campbell
One of the problems I experienced when I tried V3.5.13 was that ksysguard was
no longer detecting the lm-sensors output. Has anyone else experienced the
same problem, or conversely, are people that are using 3.5.13 finding that
ksysguard _is_ detecting the hardware sensors on their systems?
Regards,
LeeE
Hi Tim,
I build kopete from git, protocols and plugins are built too, but kopete
cannot see any of them. Any recent changes can be the reason for this?
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Serghei.
Hi,
I'm frequently experiencing a problem with kdm-trinity (V3.5.12) appearing to
time out on system start-up. The following two lines are put into my syslog
when this happens:
kdm[1966]: X server startup timeout, terminating
kdm[1966]: X server for display :0 can't be started, session disabled
This is an intermittant problem and doesn't happen every time I start my
system (I'd guess it occurs about 50% of the time). When it does I'm left
with just the basic console. However, all I need to do to get X up and
running is to log in on the console and restart kdm-trinity.
The system is running Debian Squeeze on amd64 with an nVidia graphics card
using the proprietary nVidia driver.
Curiously, I don't recall this happening when I first installed TDE V3.5.12,
which was quite some time ago now and it only seems to have started occurring
relatively recently.
Since I first installed Trinity V3.5.12 I have installed a number of Debian
Squeeze updates but in addition to this I also tried upgrading to TDE V3.5.13
but then had to downgrade back to TDE V3.5.12 due to a couple of problems
with V3.5.13.
As I didn't remove TDE V3.5.13 and all of its config files when I downgraded
back to TDE V3.5.12 I imagine that it's possible that kdm-trinity V3.5.13
introduced some different configuration settings. Alternatively, there have
been a couple of kernel updates during this period (I compile my own kernels
from the Debian linux-source package and then need to recompile the nVidia
driver to fit the new kernel. The kernel updates have all been minor point
updates so the kernel configs have been unchanged over the period concerned)
and this may be a factor. Fwiw, the syslog messages from kdm-trinity appear
about 15 seconds after the nVidia module load message.
I've also had a look in the Xorg.log files and while there are no clear errors
or warnings there are differences at the end of the logs between successful
and unsuccessful start ups as shown below...
Unsuccessful startup:
(**) Option "xkb_rules" "evdev"
(**) Option "xkb_model" "pc105"
(**) Option "xkb_layout" "gb"
(II) Power Button: Close
(II) UnloadModule: "evdev"
(II) Power Button: Close
(II) UnloadModule: "evdev"
(II) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: Close
(II) UnloadModule: "evdev"
(II) ImExPS/2 Generic Explorer Mouse: Close
(II) UnloadModule: "evdev"
(II) ACPI Virtual Keyboard Device: Close
(II) UnloadModule: "evdev"
Successful startup:
(**) Option "xkb_rules" "evdev"
(**) Option "xkb_model" "pc105"
(**) Option "xkb_layout" "gb"
(II) Open ACPI successful (/var/run/acpid.socket)
(II) Feb 15 11:52:58 NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "1920x1200+0+0"
(II) Power Button: Device reopened after 1 attempts.
(II) Power Button: Device reopened after 1 attempts.
(II) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: Device reopened after 1 attempts.
(II) ImExPS/2 Generic Explorer Mouse: Device reopened after 1 attempts.
(II) ACPI Virtual Keyboard Device: Device reopened after 1 attempts.
The extract from the unsuccessful start up clearly shows that some of the
devices are being closed but I can't see any reasons why and, as I say, there
are no errors or warnings: apart from some different time-stamps earlier on
in the logs they are otherwise identical (according to KDiff3).
Any hints or tips would be appreciated.
Regards,
LeeE
Any way to do it?
Got an Android, would like to sync KOrganzier dates with its internal Calendar
app.
Dex
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A hypothetical poll for users here....
If TDE were to close down, which desktop would you use instead? You would
be allowed to abandon Linux entirely in this scenario. ;-)
Please state why you have not already switched; i.e. what item are missing
or suboptimal in the other environment.
I am curious as to why TDE still exists and need some concrete examples to
fall back on to counter detractors.
Thanks!
Tim
Since Calvin answered two of your questions, I'll answer the remaining.
It is possible to not enter the password in Kmail, most email clients offer to store the password.
In the Kmail settings, go to Accounts and click Add. You'll have the option of POP, IMAP, or Disconnected IMAP. After entering the details at http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=78799 (for IMAP/Disconnected IMAP) or at http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=13287 (for POP) (make sure to enable either POP or IMAP in your Gmail settings in your browser!), tick off Store Password, Show Only Serverside Subscribed Folders, Include In Manual Check (optional), and Enable Interval Checking (optional). On the Security tab, select "Use SSL" and "Clear Text".
When you apply the settings, it will either bring up KWallet or ask you to confirm storing the password unsafely (depending on whether or not KWallet is installed). If it brings up KWallet, and you /don't / want to use it, just click Next, then Finish (don't set a KWallet password if you're not going to use it).
For sending, enter the smtp details on either of those links. For security, select TLS (/not/ SSL) and Plain.
For IMAP, POP, and SMTP, you need to use the full email address as the login.
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Kris Gamrat
Ark Linux webmaster
http://www.arklinux.org/
P.S. If you're not sure the difference between IMAP and Disconnected IMAP, Disconnected IMAP (AKA Cached IMAP) downloads all emails. This causes it to load slowly when you first setup your IMAP since it needs to download everything and each sync will go slightly more slowly if you've received emails. The advantage is that your downloaded email will still be accessible if something happens to your Internet connection. If you don't need it to download attachments automatically, you can disable that elsewhere in Kmail yet still have Disconnected IMAP (it will download the text only).
On Sunday 12 February 2012 11:01:21 am Lisi wrote:
> Hi, Kris.
>
> Thank you for the reply.
>
> On Sunday 12 February 2012 19:06:38 Kristopher John Gamrat wrote:
> > It is possible to not enter the password in Kmail, most email clients
> > offer to store the password.
>
> That is the problem. I can't find a way. But it used to be possible.
>
> I don't like KWallet. It is just there by default. Can I safely uninstall
> it? And would I then be able to get KMail to store the passwords itself,
> as it used to do?
>
> Thanks,
> Lisi
There is an app, kwalletmanager-trinity, that allows you to turn off the 'wallet
manager subsystem among other things, then you can use the kmail configuration to
save , or not, your password.
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Peace,
Greg
On Sunday 12 February 2012, Timothy Pearson wrote:
> If TDE were to close down, which desktop would you use instead? You would
> be allowed to abandon Linux entirely in this scenario. ;-)
>
> Please state why you have not already switched; i.e. what item are missing
> or suboptimal in the other environment.
>
> I am curious as to why TDE still exists and need some concrete examples to
> fall back on to counter detractors.
>
A lot was stated already and for most of the comments I could agree fully!
Nevertheles here are my 2 cents as well.
I'm with KDE3 from the very beginning (and with KDE2 before). It was a big
disappointment for me when I realized which way KDE4 was going to go
starting with things like
- dropping Konqueror in favor of Dolphin
- demanding from the users to switch to a desktop (KDE4) with absolute
reduced functionality
- banning users from the discussion list because they were no Fanboys of
KDE4
- ...
I did not upgrade from Ubuntu Gutsy (was this the latest one with KDE3
officially included in repos?) because I simply did not know which DE to use
instead until I found TDE. I'm so glad KDE3 still exists.
I bought a netbook 3 years ago and I installed Ubuntu Lenny with Gnome2 as
there was a netbook-edition available and there was nothing comparable
available for KDE3. I got used to work with it but I'm not really happy with
the lack of functionallity and the way it could be customized. I installed
the next version (Maverick?) for a friend of mine again with the netbook
edition and know what? even there you saw regression in Gnome2 (Nautilus no
longer had the address text field available showing the path where you are
(don't know the correct name for this)). With Gnome3, it's getting even
worse.
At work I had to upgrade the Linux system to KDE4 2 years ago. A few guys were
working via VNC on this system. What worked well on KDE3 for years was
totally strange on KDE4. VNC server / client have been totally broken with
the new graphics rendering of KDE4. I found Tiger-VNC program that helped a
bit but I could net really got accustomed to KDE4. I now have upgraded to
Lenny LTS and downgraded KDE4 to TDE happily!
For me, there is no alternative to KDE3 / TDE. If you really drop it I would
try to use the existing version as long as possible.
Yes, there is room for improvement, e.g. the following 3 items come to mind:
- Konqueror more and more has problems to render actuall Web-pages, it
would be very nice if we could switch from KHTML to Webkit as I don't
think that the effort to renew KHTML libraries could be done.
- For using TDE on netbooks the screen size of a lot of dialogs is simply
too big for the available screen estate and they can't be reduced. Bear in
mind that especially netbooks could greatly take advantage from KDE3.
- What I find totally anoying is the way how self-mounted external devices
are named. Instead of using simply the names you find by using the mount
command (/media/something), you find some system:/media/other-thing!
As I'm often still using the command line I can not simply copy the location
out of Konquerors address bar but have instead to use mount to get it's
correct location.
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As you easily see I'm no native speaker. I hope I was able to make myself at
least understandable. I'd like to take the opportunity to say a big
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU
to Tim and all the others who made Trinity a reality. Please go on with the
good work!
A happy TDE user
Gerhard