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Plymouth error
by Thierry de Coulon 16 Dec '22

16 Dec '22

Hello all, As I allready mentioned, I am using MX-Linux at school. I have now installed it on my laptop because it's the only Debian-based distribution I've found where Gnome-Display-Networks is working - which let's me connect my machine with a Microsoft Wireless dongle. To stop any discussion: no, I won't use Ubuntu or Mint, so I haven't tested those. I have installed Trinity on MX and it works well, with one glitch: - If I use TDM (dpkg-reconfigure tdm-trinity) there seem to be some problem at shutdown, wich leads to - sometime, not always - a failure of X to start at boot (I did not write down the message but it's something about a Plymouth failure). If I log in (cli) and then start X it works. - If I use lightdm there is no problem (except the less friendly greeter). From all this, I have concluded that the problem is linked to the use of Trinity's login screen. While I can live with lightdm, does anyone understand what the problem with plymouth is, and/or if it's possible to get TDM's greeter without plymouth? I seem to remember a time where plymouth had to be installed only for some versions of the greeter - maybe I'm wrong. Thierry

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Arts fail at boot
by Christian Schmitz 12 Dec '22

12 Dec '22

Hi everyone. I have a last fail on my trinity install. Every book appear: The application soundserver (artsd) chashed and caused signal 6 ( SIGABRT) The next is the backtrace. Make refference to some failed symbol (maybe shared library, wich library?) The installed system is a opensuse tumbleweed and make this error from start. If i configure "not sound server" the error dissapear, but kmix cant move the volume. Thanks to all, Best Regards Christian Backtrace: This GDB supports auto-downloading debuginfo from the following URLs: https://debuginfod.opensuse.org/ Enable debuginfod for this session? (y or [n]) [answered N; input not from terminal] Debuginfod has been disabled. To make this setting permanent, add 'set debuginfod enabled off' to .gdbinit. [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] Using host libthread_db library "/lib64/libthread_db.so.1". ==== (gdb) bt ==== [TDECrash handler] #3 0x00007fd55b5847ec in __pthread_kill_implementation () from /lib64/libc.so.6 #4 0x00007fd55b531816 in raise () from /lib64/libc.so.6 #5 0x00007fd55b51a81c in abort () from /lib64/libc.so.6 #6 0x00007fd55b51a72b in __assert_fail_base.cold () from /lib64/libc.so.6 #7 0x00007fd55b529c46 in __assert_fail () from /lib64/libc.so.6 #8 0x00007fd55b213a07 in snd_pcm_close () from /lib64/libasound.so.2 #9 0x00007fd55bd682e6 in ?? () from /opt/trinity/lib64/libartsflow.so.1 #10 0x00007fd55bd4b55a in Arts::AudioSubSystem::open() () from /opt/trinity/lib64/libartsflow.so.1 #11 0x00007fd55bd4b90d in Arts::AudioSubSystem::check() () from /opt/trinity/lib64/libartsflow.so.1 #12 0x0000000000411c2c in ?? () #13 0x00007fd55b51b5b0 in __libc_start_call_main () from /lib64/libc.so.6 #14 0x00007fd55b51b679 in __libc_start_main_impl () from /lib64/libc.so.6 #15 0x0000000000412785 in _start () ==== (gdb) bt full ==== [TDECrash handler] No symbol table info available. #3 0x00007fd55b5847ec in __pthread_kill_implementation () from /lib64/libc.so.6 No symbol table info available. #4 0x00007fd55b531816 in raise () from /lib64/libc.so.6 No symbol table info available. #5 0x00007fd55b51a81c in abort () from /lib64/libc.so.6 No symbol table info available. #6 0x00007fd55b51a72b in __assert_fail_base.cold () from /lib64/libc.so.6 No symbol table info available. #7 0x00007fd55b529c46 in __assert_fail () from /lib64/libc.so.6 No symbol table info available. #8 0x00007fd55b213a07 in snd_pcm_close () from /lib64/libasound.so.2 No symbol table info available. #9 0x00007fd55bd682e6 in ?? () from /opt/trinity/lib64/libartsflow.so.1 No symbol table info available. #10 0x00007fd55bd4b55a in Arts::AudioSubSystem::open() () from /opt/trinity/lib64/libartsflow.so.1 No symbol table info available. #11 0x00007fd55bd4b90d in Arts::AudioSubSystem::check() () from /opt/trinity/lib64/libartsflow.so.1 No symbol table info available. #12 0x0000000000411c2c in ?? () No symbol table info available. #13 0x00007fd55b51b5b0 in __libc_start_call_main () from /lib64/libc.so.6 No symbol table info available. #14 0x00007fd55b51b679 in __libc_start_main_impl () from /lib64/libc.so.6 No symbol table info available. #15 0x0000000000412785 in _start () No symbol table info available. ==== (gdb) info thread ==== Id Target Id Frame * 1 Thread 0x7fd55bcd90c0 (LWP 1834) "artsd" 0x00007fd55b5d09d7 in wait4 () from /lib64/libc.so.6 ==== (gdb) thread apply all bt ==== ==== Thread 1 (Thread 0x7fd55bcd90c0 (LWP 1834) "artsd"): [TDECrash handler] #3 0x00007fd55b5847ec in __pthread_kill_implementation () from /lib64/libc.so.6 #4 0x00007fd55b531816 in raise () from /lib64/libc.so.6 #5 0x00007fd55b51a81c in abort () from /lib64/libc.so.6 #6 0x00007fd55b51a72b in __assert_fail_base.cold () from /lib64/libc.so.6 #7 0x00007fd55b529c46 in __assert_fail () from /lib64/libc.so.6 #8 0x00007fd55b213a07 in snd_pcm_close () from /lib64/libasound.so.2 #9 0x00007fd55bd682e6 in ?? () from /opt/trinity/lib64/libartsflow.so.1 #10 0x00007fd55bd4b55a in Arts::AudioSubSystem::open() () from /opt/trinity/lib64/libartsflow.so.1 #11 0x00007fd55bd4b90d in Arts::AudioSubSystem::check() () from /opt/trinity/lib64/libartsflow.so.1 #12 0x0000000000411c2c in ?? () #13 0x00007fd55b51b5b0 in __libc_start_call_main () from /lib64/libc.so.6 #14 0x00007fd55b51b679 in __libc_start_main_impl () from /lib64/libc.so.6 #15 0x0000000000412785 in _start () ==== (gdb) info sharedlibrary ==== From To Syms Read Shared Object Library 0x00007fd55be6d780 0x00007fd55be831b6 Yes (*) /opt/trinity/lib64/libsoundserver_idl.so.1 0x00007fd55bd429b0 0x00007fd55bdb1c76 Yes (*) /opt/trinity/lib64/libartsflow.so.1 0x00007fd55bca16e0 0x00007fd55bcb0d87 Yes (*) /opt/trinity/lib64/libkmedia2_idl.so.1 0x00007fd55bbdbb50 0x00007fd55bc06c66 Yes (*) /opt/trinity/lib64/libartsflow_idl.so.1 0x00007fd55bab4ef0 0x00007fd55bb07c52 Yes (*) /opt/trinity/lib64/libmcop.so.1 0x00007fd55b8a9360 0x00007fd55b9a6fe2 Yes (*) /lib64/libstdc++.so.6 0x00007fd55b72c3c0 0x00007fd55b7a2908 Yes (*) /lib64/libm.so.6 0x00007fd55b6f8660 0x00007fd55b70ebf5 Yes (*) /lib64/libgcc_s.so.1 0x00007fd55b51a700 0x00007fd55b67fe8d Yes (*) /lib64/libc.so.6 0x00007fd55b4bb540 0x00007fd55b4df4cb Yes (*) /lib64/libaudiofile.so.1 0x00007fd55b468bf0 0x00007fd55b492356 Yes (*) /lib64/libjack.so.0 0x00007fd55b33deb0 0x00007fd55b3c94f2 Yes (*) /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0 0x00007fd55ba3e430 0x00007fd55ba428ec Yes (*) /lib64/libvorbisfile.so.3 0x00007fd55b2f0600 0x00007fd55b306bff Yes (*) /lib64/libvorbis.so.0 0x00007fd55b2c62f0 0x00007fd55b2cf749 Yes (*) /lib64/libmad.so.0 0x00007fd55ba30870 0x00007fd55ba353a2 Yes (*) /lib64/libesd.so.0 0x00007fd55b1e9ab0 0x00007fd55b27d2d2 Yes (*) /lib64/libasound.so.2 0x00007fd55bebd0a0 0x00007fd55bee4145 Yes (*) /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 0x00007fd55b17d8e0 0x00007fd55b1ab023 Yes (*) /lib64/libFLAC.so.12 0x00007fd55b0bf280 0x00007fd55b13ff73 Yes (*) /lib64/libpcre2-8.so.0 0x00007fd55b0ae250 0x00007fd55b0b0575 Yes (*) /lib64/libogg.so.0 0x00007fd55ba5f570 0x00007fd55ba618e9 Yes (*) /lib64/alsa-lib/libasound_module_pcm_pulse.so 0x00007fd55b00b800 0x00007fd55b038a02 Yes (*) /lib64/libpulse.so.0 0x00007fd55af8ce30 0x00007fd55afd18d2 Yes (*) /usr/lib64/pulseaudio/libpulsecommon-16.1.so 0x00007fd55af2ce20 0x00007fd55af5929f Yes (*) /lib64/libdbus-1.so.3 0x00007fd55ae9ca30 0x00007fd55aef4dd3 Yes (*) /lib64/libsndfile.so.1 0x00007fd55ae71710 0x00007fd55ae83cd0 Yes (*) /lib64/libxcb.so.1 0x00007fd55ada4b50 0x00007fd55ae224e0 Yes (*) /lib64/libsystemd.so.0 0x00007fd55acf00b0 0x00007fd55acf25cc Yes (*) /lib64/libvorbisenc.so.2 0x00007fd55acbf260 0x00007fd55acd0e35 Yes (*) /lib64/libspeex.so.1 0x00007fd55ac5f3e0 0x00007fd55aca3adf Yes (*) /lib64/libopus.so.0 0x00007fd55ba55200 0x00007fd55ba55e82 Yes (*) /lib64/libXau.so.6 0x00007fd55ac4f4e0 0x00007fd55ac53a97 Yes (*) /lib64/libcap.so.2 0x00007fd55ab0c640 0x00007fd55abfa9de Yes (*) /lib64/libgcrypt.so.20 0x00007fd55aac8510 0x00007fd55aae8e75 Yes (*) /lib64/liblzma.so.5 0x00007fd55aa12780 0x00007fd55aaac1b2 Yes (*) /lib64/libzstd.so.1 0x00007fd55a9e7300 0x00007fd55aa02227 Yes (*) /lib64/liblz4.so.1 0x00007fd55a9c1550 0x00007fd55a9d5942 Yes (*) /lib64/libgpg-error.so.0 (*): Shared library is missing debugging information. [Inferior 1 (process 1834) detached] ==== (tdehwlib) hardware information ==== CPU core number: 0 Vendor: AuthenticAMD Model: Name: AMD A9-9425 RADEON R5, 5 COMPUTE CORES 2C+3G Current Frequency: 3692.64 MHz Minimum Frequency: 1400 MHz Maximum Frequency: 3100 MHz CPU core number: 1 Vendor: AuthenticAMD Model: Name: AMD A9-9425 RADEON R5, 5 COMPUTE CORES 2C+3G Current Frequency: 3692.71 MHz Minimum Frequency: 1400 MHz Maximum Frequency: 3100 MHz -- Be Free, Be Linux

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Replace <enter> with <shift>+<enter> for OpenSCAD ?
by Dr. Nikolaus Klepp 09 Dec '22

09 Dec '22

Hi all! Does anybody know if there's a TDE way to replace <enter> with <shift>+<enter> for just one specific application windows? Reasomn is, that the last update broke OpenSCAD input: to vreate a new line it now requires <shift>+<enter> instead of <enter>, which is kind of strange. Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ...

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Libjasper.so.6 is missing on tumbleweed
by Christian Schmitz 09 Dec '22

09 Dec '22

Hi Everyone: I am trying of install some TDE applications or update others on tumbleweed. The problem is a dependence compatibility problem. TDE require Libjasper.so.6, but TW have Libjasper.so.7 Overriding the update warning the TDE works REASONABLY fine. How i can solve the warnings? Thanks to all Best Regards Christian -- Be Free, Be Linux

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Re: Do we want to participate in social networks?
by William Morder 09 Dec '22

09 Dec '22

On Friday 09 December 2022 07.45:36 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > If "somebody" has the resources to mantain it, yes. At least it'd be a good > try :) >I have no reason to oppose, but I won't be there. I tried Mastodon and could >not understand how that works - and I don't use my phone for messenging as >far as I can. > >Thierry I have never used Twitter. However, I do sometimes cheat and use nitter.org, just to read what somebody posted, if it actually gets my attention. Twitter never seemed worth the time, effort, or emotional investment, to participate. I doubt Mastodon can be much better. Life is short. And yet there are people who do use it, so it must be worthwhile to somebody out there. My question is, Why not just have our cake and eat it, too? If we establish "an official communication channel for our project on Mastodon" (quoting Slavek), does that mean that we must choose between them - one or the other? Are they mutually exclusive? We could have, say, an "unoffical communication channel" on Twitter; maybe not the devs themselves, but there are lots of TDE users out there, and they could take the message to the people on Twitter, the good news that there really is a Linux desktop that is actually worth using. Bill

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Re: can one auto-fit image previews in konqueror?
by Hunter Ellett 27 Nov '22

27 Nov '22

Speaking of this, is it possible to get thumbnails in the "tree" or "detailed list" views? I primarily use these and it only shows an image of the MIME type (a picture, a video)

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can one auto-fit image previews in konqueror?
by D. R. Evans 25 Nov '22

25 Nov '22

One of the very few things I find annoying about konqueror in TDE is that, when using it as a file manager, if I click on an image file (a .png, for example), the preview it shows me is not correctly sized to the visible pane. Rather, it seems to be displayed, always, at full size... which means that most of the time it doesn't actually fit in the pane and I can see only a portion of the image. I don't think there's any way to change this behaviour, but I thought I'd better ask here before filing a feature request. So, is there some way to change this behaviour so that the image is scaled correctly so that it always fits in the pane? (Fitting images to the pane is the way the konqueror works in plasma5, for example -- although "modern" konqueror has so many other annoyances that I find it unusable; but the "automatic-fit-images-to-the-pane" behaviour is a great improvement on the TDE behaviour described above.) Doc -- Web: http://enginehousebooks.com/drevans

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how to force resize of kcalc-trinity?
by William Morder 23 Nov '22

23 Nov '22

Okay, so here's my problem. I want a basic calculator, at least the 4 functions, although I don't mind having other goodies, but I really just need a basic calculator for doing simple tasks like figuring out whether I have any money left in my account. I got kcalc-trinity downloaded, managed to change the colors to make it more visible, but now I find that it cannot be resized, nor the size of characters in the display enlarged. If not a Trinity program, then I'd be glad to try a non-TDE program, but there again I run into the same problem with every calculator I've tried. The only other one that I use sometimes is galculator, but while I can enlarge its size, the characters stay so tiny that I cannot read them, cannot make out the difference between x, +, and so on, and the keypad also has unreadable numbers. There was one that I remembered, qalculate, of which there was supposed to be a Trinity version, but neither the Trinity version nor any others (Gnome, gtk, etc.) with download and install. Something about dependencies, it seems, but when I did a search for the deb package, I get only an error page. Is there any calculator that I can resize both the gui frame of the program (not sure if that's the right terminology) as well as the size of the characters? Or is there some way that I could hack the Trinity version of kcalc to make it bigger? See attached screenshot for comparsion of the two top underperformers. Bill

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Reliably play a sound without disrupting the screen?
by Michael 22 Nov '22

22 Nov '22

I need a sound played 10 minutes before each hour during the work day, such that it does not interfere with what’s on the screen, grab the mouse, or grab the keyboard. Scheduling it with cron is easy, but I can’t seem to get the sound to play reliably. I’m currently using: /usr/bin/play --no-show-progress --volume .5 /opt/trinity/share/sounds/KDE_Beep_Connect.ogg Sometimes that plays other times it’s silent. I’ve also tried: kaboodle /opt/trinity/share/sounds/KDE_Event_2.ogg Which always plays, but I don’t know how to start it either minimized, closed to the system tray, or some other way so it doesn’t cause issues. I’ve seen some hokey solutions using wmctrl and/or xdotool, but they still pop up the program (kaboodle) before minimizing it. AV isn’t really my forte, and I don’t really care what program works, does anyone have experience doing something like this? Thanks, Michael

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TDE Devuan repository glitch
by William Morder 22 Nov '22

22 Nov '22

Not sure what caused this weirdness, but I thought it best to make a report, just in case it actually matters. I was trying to find a desktop calculator that I actually like, and among those that I downloaded was kcalc-trinity, which I've used before. But when I downloaded my list of packages and dependencies, I kept getting an error message: Err:1 http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/deb/trinity-testing chimaera/main amd64 kcalc-trinity amd64 4:14.1.0~s244-0debian11.0.0+12 404 Not Found [IP: 37.205.10.16 80] E: Failed to fetch http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/deb/trinity-testing/pool/main/… 404 Not Found [IP: 37.205.10.16 80] E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing? After trying apt-get build-dep, and then apt-get update, which did not improve my results, it occurred to me to try changing my sources.list from Devuan Chimaera to Debian Bullseye; and presto! worked like a charm. Some may recall an earlier discussion (when Leslie was attempting a new Devuan installation), I posited my opinion that there is probably no difference between these packages when it comes to third-party repositories (such as Trinity itself). From what I can tell, third-party developers thus far do not create special Devuan packages, and most do not even acknowledge the existence of Devuan, so Debian packages work just fine. For the Trinity repositories, I assume that the link to Chimaera packages is just a redirect to the Debian packages. Otherwise, this would be a reduplication of effort and server space, If this is wrong, I expect to be corrected by somebody who knows better. However, this seems like proof of concept, since the package was available by changing to the Debian links. I do know that Debian and Devuan packages definitely should not be used interchangeably. When Devuan was first forked, this was almost true, except for a few systemd-dependent items, but now they have diverged more and more. These changes do not appear to have prompted third-party developers to create packages specifically for Devuan, but I am sure that this will be changing. It could be that this package alone is missing, or that there is a problem with the link to this server, or that redirection is failing, or whatever. But I did try several times, with the same bad result, and after changing the lines in my sources.list for the Trinity repositories, everything worked like normal. By the way, I am using the PTB repositories now, following Slavek's recent recommendation. Bill

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