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Is TDE capable of communicating with apps like Firefox?
by jakolineplayer＠tutanota.com 29 Jun '22

29 Jun '22

Hello, the default file manager for TDE is Konqueror, also Dolphin is available in the repos, is either of them capable of communicating with modern versions of Firefox to do things such as opening folders and selecting (highlight) the downloaded files? Also, as I remember when I used TDE about a year ago, once a foreign file manager is installed (say Caja or pcmanfm) Firefox automatically starts using them to show downloaded files and forgets completely about Konqueror and Dolphin, I know that it's known bug in Firefox, but is there a tested work-around to fix that? Can a TDE user force Firefox to use Konqueror or Dolphin to open files? So my msg contains two questions: 1) Can Firefox communicate with Konqueror or Dolphin to show/highlight my downloaded files and to access my folders? 2) Can I force Firefox to use Konqueror (or Dolphin) as my prefered file manager?

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bad mouse pointer
by Felix Miata 29 Jun '22

29 Jun '22

Using 14.0.13~pre8 on both Bullseye & Bookworm amd64 on old 945G intel graphics using modesetting DIX. I couldn't get the Intel DDX driver to load instead. Mouse pointer at TDM login greeter and in IceWM, LXDE, XFCE & TDM sessions are always the activity spinner. Strings put and ouse in .xsession-errors are absent. What package could be missing, erroneous, or badly configured? installed (Bookworm): input: ii libinput10:amd64 1.21.0-1 ii libinput-bin 1.21.0-1 ii libxcb-xinput0:amd64 1.14-3 ii lxinput 0.3.5-1+b2 ii xserver-xorg-input-all 1:7.7+23 ii xserver-xorg-input-evdev 1:2.10.6-2+b1 ii xserver-xorg-input-libinput 1.2.1-1+b1 ii xserver-xorg-input-mouse 1:1.9.3-1+b1 ii xserver-xorg-input-synaptics 1.9.1-2+b1 mouse: ii lxinput 0.3.5-1+b2 ii xserver-xorg-input-mouse 1:1.9.3-1+b1 -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata

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Wallpaper alignment behavior of Konqueror and KDesktop
by Leskala 27 Jun '22

27 Jun '22

Hello everyone, I have 2 issues with the wallpaper setting behavior of Konqueror and KDesktop respectively and possible improvement ideas which I'd like to discuss. 1. Konqueror set-as-wallpaper actions Konqueror offers set-as-wallpaper actions in the right-click menu of images under the "Actions" > "Set as Background" submenu. There are 2 actions in the "Set as Background" category: "Centered" and "Tiled". "Tiled" actually does what its name suggests. However, the "Centered" action does actually lead to "Scaled" in the desktop's wallpaper setting, squishing the image to fit the screen, ignoring the aspect ratio. "Centered" is available in the KDesktop configuration (as in "Configure Desktop..." in the desktop's context menu) but is not correctly triggered by this action. So I guess this is actually a bug: the "Centered" option of "Set as Background" in Konqueror's actions leads to "Scaled" not "Centered" in KDesktop. Also, one could consider replacing "Centered" in Konqueror's wallpaper actions by "Scale & Crop" entirely (see below). (By the way, is there a way to modify those actions via config files or are they part of Konqueror's source code?) 2. KDesktop's default wallpaper alignment setting "Scaled" is a poor choice When changing the wallpaper directly in KDesktops configuration dialog (reached via "Configure Desktop..." in the desktop's context menu), upon selecting a new image, the "Position" setting will revert to "Scaled". This is not necessarily a bug, as KDesktop might just have "Scaled" hardcoded as its default and always reverts to it. However, I think "Scaled" is a poor choice for a default by modern standards since it ignores the image's aspect ratio and squishes any image that doesn't perfectly match the current display's aspect ratio. In my opinion, "Scale & Crop" is a much more sensible option and is the default behavior of most modern desktop environments nowadays, as it doesn't squish any images. I think KDesktop should remember the previous "Position" setting when changing the wallpaper file in its dialog and/or the default should be changed to "Scale & Crop", which would fit most situations just fine. Best regards, Leskala

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/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lGL: No such file or directory,collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status,make: *** [Makefile:481: qtemu] Error 1
by Kate ＠ Borg Labs 24 Jun '22

24 Jun '22

/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lGL: No such file or directory collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status make: *** [Makefile:481: qtemu] Error 1 Ok been at it for awhile trying to figure this out. This usually means the answer is simple so I miss it. I'm trying to build QTemu from latest source and I get the above error. Anyone know what I'm doing wrong? Missing a package? etc etc etc... Thank you to all in advance, Kate

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Re: Camera mounts as Unknown Device
by Dr. Nikolaus Klepp 20 Jun '22

20 Jun '22

Hi all! In continuation of this thread https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/users@trinitydeskt… I was just hit by the same problem, but it affected a sd-card in T470 internal card reader. To overcome the problem I need this one-line udev rule to make all "invisible" aka disks only seen in system:/media/ to be seen by the tde aoutomounter again: # /etc/udev/rules.d/99-disk.rules ENV{ID_TYPE}="disk", ENV{UDISKS_AUTO}="1", ENV{UDISKS_SYSTEM}="0", ENV{UDISKS_SYSTEM_INTERNAL}="0" So, no more matching of specific vendor names etc. Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ...

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video sound (mysteriously) working again ?!?! maybe OT
by William Morder 18 Jun '22

18 Jun '22

Okay, this may or may not be off-topic, don't have a clue whether it was really a TDE problem, or a system issue, or that another desktop (xfce) was interfering with Trinity. Or it could be my own dumb blind luck that things seem normal again. [fingers crossed] The original thread, for anybody who wishes to be reminded, followed from this heading:"video sound not working", started on 6 May 2022. The thing is, I don't think that I did anything which ought to have affected EVERYTHING in this manner. The story is longer than I tell here, but I will give what I guess to be the main points. I got a couple new audio mixing and recording toys in the past few months. I have had a Focusrite Scarlett 8i6 audio interface maybe two months ago, and played round with that. Typically, when I have clicked to monitor my instrument sound, no other sound will work simultaneously with my system. Either I choose to listen to my instrument play through the speakers (or through the Scarlett interface using headphones), or I can listen to online radio (using qmmp), or I can listen to my music files (using audacious), or I can watch a video (for which I was using vlc). I could not play music on audacious, for example, and play along on my instrument through the Scarlett interface. If anybody recalls, the sound on smplayer had stopped working for me altogether, and nothing seemed to change it. (All other video programs, except kaffeine-trinity, also stopped playing sound.) Now I have got two new items for the family: (1) a Vox MV50 AC 50-watt Hybrid Tube Head (which I generally use as a pre-amp), running through a 50w Cube Street EX amp; and (2) a Vox StompLab IIG Modeling Effects Pedal, which I put in front of the pre-amp, so that I can get a range of effects, mainly old-school tube-amp type effects. (The pre-amp is actually a mini-tube amp, for anybody who cares, and who wants to do something similar. It is a 50w mini-amp, which can be used directly with headphones or for recording, or can be used as a pre-amp; or, if I play out in a club, can be plugged directly into the house sound system, or into the sound board, so that they don't have to bother round with trying to mike my amp. Saves a lot of bother, and instead of lugging round a big amp, this is about the h/w dimensions of the average smartphone nowadays, only 2x or 3x the thickness, or depth.) I played round with these things last night, but didn't make any changes to my system while doing it. Later that night, I returned to vlc, which I haven't touched for a couple weeks because it started giving me problems. At first, it would not stay on top of the display, then it wouldn't load at all. And as for smplayer, it hasn't worked at all, and I haven't touched it since that thread mentioned above. Sound was working for vlc, but for none of my other video programs; like smplayer, they would play only video, if they played at all, but no sound. Now vlc wasn't working, and that wouldn't do. So I went into my settings, nothing seemed different, then I got into my config files, specifically in /home/<USER>/.config/vlc. It looked like last changes were recent, though I didn't recall making changes. So I renamed this vlc config folder, saved it, and then replaced it with an older copy of the same that I had saved from my previous system (my old desktop, which is now in storage). Simple as that, presto! everything works. Not only does vlc work, sound and all, but so does smplayer and other video players. Moreover, my Scarlett audio interface, which before would take over the sound system, now will play nicely along side other audio and video programs, though I can't figure out why. This makes it nice for playing music on, say, audacious, or online radio on qmmp, or even to play music videos, and then using the Scarlett interface either to play over headphones or to play over my amp, so that I can play along with the music, whatever randomly comes up, in my practice. Apologies for length, but I wanted to be sure to include all the details, just in case. The salient points are: I added new devices, but these shouldn't have affected my sound system, as nothing was changed. I replaced the config folder for vlc, and I could see how that ought to make a difference for vlc; but now smplayer also works just fine, though nothing was changed. And last, I can play different audio programs (or the sound on video programs) simultaneously, if I wish, while using my recording hardware. None of this makes sense to me. I am glad it's working, but sometimes I also like to know why, rather than thanking the Goddess and crossing my fingers in hopes that the same problems don't return. Anybody have a clue what happened, and why? Bill

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Registering Twin?
by Maciej Pilichowski 16 Jun '22

16 Jun '22

Hello everyone :-), Naive question, but how can I register TWin? I have openSUSE Leap 15.3 with default XFCE installed. Now I installed TWin (from Trinity repo), all good, but when I logout from XFCE and try to select another window manager I only see XFCE and IceWM as WM options. Nothing more. So how to add Twin as well, so I would see 3 options for selection? Thank you in advance for help. Cheers, -- http://przypadkopis.wordpress.com/

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kmail: tdeio crashes
by Dr. Nikolaus Klepp 14 Jun '22

14 Jun '22

Hi all! I have a problem since last update yesterday with kmail: tdeio_pop3 crashes when getting mail from pop3s and tdeio_smtp crashes when sending sending . Does somebody have an idea what to do about that? TDE is PSB, devuan daedalus tdepim-tdeio-plugins-trinitytdeio 4:14.1.0~s275-0debian12.0.0+10~a Nik .xsession-errors: [2022/06/14 09:41:33.110] [tdeio_pop3] [24842] WARNING: SSL_get_peer_certificate not defined! tdeioslave: ####### CRASH ###### protocol = pop3 pid = 24842 signal = 11 [ #0 0x00007f0a357f5c71 in kdBacktrace(int) from /opt/trinity/lib/libtdecore.so.14:0x000f2c71 #1 0x00007f0a35bb48bb in TDEIO::SlaveBase::sigsegv_handler(int) from /opt/trinity/lib/libtdeio.so.14:0x001e28bb #2 0x00007f0a34a56920 in ?? from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6:0x00038920 #3 0x00007f0a3305ff20 in X509_get_subject_name from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcrypto.so.3:0x002d5f20 #4 0x00007f0a35b3da39 in KSSLCertificate::getSubject() const from /opt/trinity/lib/libtdeio.so.14:0x0016ba39 #5 0x00007f0a35b44c5e in KSSLPeerInfo::certMatchesAddress() from /opt/trinity/lib/libtdeio.so.14:0x00172c5e #6 0x00007f0a35bb0715 in TDEIO::TCPSlaveBase::verifyCertificate() from /opt/trinity/lib/libtdeio.so.14:0x001de715 #7 0x00007f0a35bb3799 in TDEIO::TCPSlaveBase::startTLS() from /opt/trinity/lib/libtdeio.so.14:0x001e1799 #8 0x00007f0a35f02c8f in ?? from /opt/trinity/lib/trinity/tdeio_pop3.so:0x00008c8f #9 0x00007f0a35effe33 in ?? from /opt/trinity/lib/trinity/tdeio_pop3.so:0x00005e33 #10 0x00007f0a35bb9c42 in TDEIO::SlaveBase::dispatch(int, TQMemArray<char> const&) from /opt/trinity/lib/libtdeio.so.14:0x001e7c42 #11 0x00007f0a35bb57fc in TDEIO::SlaveBase::dispatchLoop() from /opt/trinity/lib/libtdeio.so.14:0x001e37fc #12 0x00007f0a35efec18 in kdemain from /opt/trinity/lib/trinity/tdeio_pop3.so:0x00004c18 #13 0x000055f2f5e45ef9 in ?? from tdeio_pop3 [tdeinit] pop3 /tmp/tdesocket-nik/tdelauncherscU68w.sla:0x00008ef9 #14 0x000055f2f5e4713b in ?? from tdeio_pop3 [tdeinit] pop3 /tmp/tdesocket-nik/tdelauncherscU68w.sla:0x0000a13b #15 0x000055f2f5e4780a in ?? from tdeio_pop3 [tdeinit] pop3 /tmp/tdesocket-nik/tdelauncherscU68w.sla:0x0000a80a #16 0x000055f2f5e43df4 in ?? from tdeio_pop3 [tdeinit] pop3 /tmp/tdesocket-nik/tdelauncherscU68w.sla:0x00006df4 #17 0x00007f0a34a417fd in __libc_start_main from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6:0x000237fd #18 0x000055f2f5e447da in _start from tdeio_pop3 [tdeinit] pop3 /tmp/tdesocket-nik/tdelauncherscU68w.sla:0x000077da ] tdeioslave: ####### CRASH ###### protocol = smtp pid = 26280 signal = 11 [ #0 0x00007f0a357f5c71 in kdBacktrace(int) from /opt/trinity/lib/libtdecore.so.14:0x000f2c71 #1 0x00007f0a35bb48bb in TDEIO::SlaveBase::sigsegv_handler(int) from /opt/trinity/lib/libtdeio.so.14:0x001e28bb #2 0x00007f0a34a56920 in ?? from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6:0x00038920 #3 0x00007f0a3302ef20 in X509_get_subject_name from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcrypto.so.3:0x002d5f20 #4 0x00007f0a35b3da39 in KSSLCertificate::getSubject() const from /opt/trinity/lib/libtdeio.so.14:0x0016ba39 #5 0x00007f0a35b44c5e in KSSLPeerInfo::certMatchesAddress() from /opt/trinity/lib/libtdeio.so.14:0x00172c5e #6 0x00007f0a35bb0715 in TDEIO::TCPSlaveBase::verifyCertificate() from /opt/trinity/lib/libtdeio.so.14:0x001de715 #7 0x00007f0a35bb3799 in TDEIO::TCPSlaveBase::startTLS() from /opt/trinity/lib/libtdeio.so.14:0x001e1799 #8 0x00007f0a35efeab0 in ?? from /opt/trinity/lib/trinity/tdeio_smtp.so:0x00011ab0 #9 0x00007f0a35efef43 in ?? from /opt/trinity/lib/trinity/tdeio_smtp.so:0x00011f43 #10 0x00007f0a35ef5f85 in ?? from /opt/trinity/lib/trinity/tdeio_smtp.so:0x00008f85 #11 0x00007f0a35ef5d17 in ?? from /opt/trinity/lib/trinity/tdeio_smtp.so:0x00008d17 #12 0x00007f0a35ef668b in ?? from /opt/trinity/lib/trinity/tdeio_smtp.so:0x0000968b #13 0x00007f0a35ef42ea in ?? from /opt/trinity/lib/trinity/tdeio_smtp.so:0x000072ea #14 0x00007f0a35bb9c42 in TDEIO::SlaveBase::dispatch(int, TQMemArray<char> const&) from /opt/trinity/lib/libtdeio.so.14:0x001e7c42 #15 0x00007f0a35bb57fc in TDEIO::SlaveBase::dispatchLoop() from /opt/trinity/lib/libtdeio.so.14:0x001e37fc #16 0x00007f0a35ef3d79 in kdemain from /opt/trinity/lib/trinity/tdeio_smtp.so:0x00006d79 #17 0x000055f2f5e45ef9 in ?? from tdeio_smtp [tdeinit] smtp /tmp/tdesocket-nik/tdelauncherscU68w.sla:0x00008ef9 #18 0x000055f2f5e4713b in ?? from tdeio_smtp [tdeinit] smtp /tmp/tdesocket-nik/tdelauncherscU68w.sla:0x0000a13b #19 0x000055f2f5e4780a in ?? from tdeio_smtp [tdeinit] smtp /tmp/tdesocket-nik/tdelauncherscU68w.sla:0x0000a80a #20 0x000055f2f5e43df4 in ?? from tdeio_smtp [tdeinit] smtp /tmp/tdesocket-nik/tdelauncherscU68w.sla:0x00006df4 #21 0x00007f0a34a417fd in __libc_start_main from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6:0x000237fd #22 0x000055f2f5e447da in _start from tdeio_smtp [tdeinit] smtp /tmp/tdesocket-nik/tdelauncherscU68w.sla:0x000077da ] -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ...

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tde and dependency hell
by gene heskett 13 Jun '22

13 Jun '22

Hi all; I'm about done with debian-11, security is 2/3rds of the typing I am doing. So tell me please what desktop to install, that will not clash, but will be over rode in apt or synaptic, long enough to get trinity installed. I've tried, something like 29 times so far to get an install that works without automatically installing brltty and orca because it thinks I'm blind. The secret there is unplug any serial adaptors from the usb tree before doing the install. But every time I do a new install, it uses a different UUID someplace that screws up a working install on a separate drive. So I'm going to strip my usb tree down to bare bones and do the 30th install. but I want to know what desktop I can install, that will let me put tde on later w/o a broken package dependency hell resulting. Thanks for any encouragement. Cheers, Gene Heskett

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Mirror maintenance: tde-mirror-01.inet-design.com
by Michael 12 Jun '22

12 Jun '22

Hi All, The hosting firm is doing hardware maintenance on TDE mirror tde-mirror-01.inet-design.com . Maintenance start date & time: 06/14/22 Tuesday at 7:00AM (UTC) Maintenance duration: 2 hours Expected server downtime: Less than 30 minutes If you get an update timeout during that time frame, try again or manually select another mirror. Best Regards, Michael Internet Design Alliance, owner http://inet-design.com/ 1996 - now

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