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I might have fixed kmail
by Gene Heskett 20 Nov '19

20 Nov '19

Greetings all; Despite asking repeatedly what was the largest count a maildirs index file could have, I've never been graced with an answer. But my inbox has been reimported as new installs took place over the years so that from 2002 to now there were quite a few messages carrying a file system date for Feb 5 thru Feb 6 2015, despite many of them carrying arrival dates in their headers that were much earlier, clear back to 2002. So just for S&G, I just moved all those to inbox subdir, killed the indices and restarted kmail. Initial blast of rebuilding indices, then settled to the bottom of the htop list. Maybe I was onto something, so I did the same thing with an even higher count of messages dated Feb 6 2015. Stopped, waited 30 secs and restarted kmail, good 45 secs to start as it did those indices new. But settled to bottom of cpu usage in another minute. Then to preclude any confusion about the years, I renamed the around 18 year only names for emc to emc-year, killed those indices and restarted kmail. Wash, rinse and repeat on restart. I have one more set of subdirs in the coco folder named only for the year, so I'll do the same thing there so they are named coco-year. I think I've found it. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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Difference between TDE R14.0.x series and TDE v3.5.13.x
by ajh-valmer 17 Nov '19

17 Nov '19

Hello, What is the difference between : TDE R14.0.x series and TDE v3.5.13.x (for the sources.list). Thanks, regards. André

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Help with translations before release R14.0.7
by Slávek Banko 17 Nov '19

17 Nov '19

Hi friends, we would like soon freeze the code and proceed to release R14.0.7. But we need your help with translations. Some of TWTW (TDE Weblate) contributors submitted their translations only as suggestions. We are therefore looking for volunteers who will be willing to register a TWTW account and have decided on these translations. Currently it concerns the following languages: Italian, Polish, Portuguese (Brazil), Russian, Turkish. https://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/weblate/user/anonymous/suggestions/ Of course, we welcome any new contributors to translations! If you want to help translating for your language, visit the TWTW information page on the TDE Wiki. https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/TDE_Weblate_Translation_Workspace If you have any questions about translating, feel free to send mail to the mailing list or ask on IRC room #trinity-destkop where Chris will be happy to help you :) Cheers -- Slávek

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Re: No graphic since upgrade Stretch to Buster
by ajh-valmer 14 Nov '19

14 Nov '19

Here is the result of "grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log" : (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. [ 350.468] (EE) Failed to load module "nv" (module does not exist, 0) [ 350.472] (EE) Failed to load module "vesa" (module does not exist, 0) [ 350.501] (EE) [drm] Failed to open DRM device for (null): -22 [ 350.502] (EE) [drm] Failed to open DRM device for pci:0000:02:00.0: -22 [ 350.503] (EE) Unable to find a valid framebuffer device [ 350.504] (EE) Screen 0 deleted because of no matching config section. [ 350.520] (II) Initializing extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER [ 350.525] (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found) Shame on me, many errors. I want to install the nvidia driver non-free, this one is installed, downloaded on nvidia site : "NVIDIA-Linux-x86-340.107.run" Thanks, regards. André

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No graphic since upgrade Stretch to Buster
by ajh-valmer 13 Nov '19

13 Nov '19

Hello, Since I upgraded Debien from Stretch to Buster, no X graphic (xorg). # dpkg-reconfigure tdm-trinity "tdm.service is a disabled or a static unit, not starting it" I'm lost to repair, any help = welcome ! André PS : I changed my address mail : @numericable has stopped.

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503 errors from https://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/gitea/TDE/tde
by Philip Ashmore 13 Nov '19

13 Nov '19

Hi there. This has been happening for a while now. From https://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/gitea/TDE/tde 7f6f61d7c..5755a2619 r14.0.x -> origin/r14.0.x 15834217e..e207810e1 master -> origin/master Fetching submodule main/applications/amarok fatal: unable to access 'https://system@scm.trinitydesktop.org/scm/git/amarok/': The requested URL returned error: 503 ... Is this the right git repo for preliminary stable? Regards, Philip Ashmore

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No graphic since upgrade Stretch to Buster
by andre_debian＠numericable.fr 12 Nov '19

12 Nov '19

Hello, Since I upgraded Debien from Stretch to Buster, no X graphic (xorg). # dpkg-reconfigure tdm-trinity "tdm.service is a disabled or a static unit, not starting it" I'm lost to repair, any help = welcome ! André

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Re: Re: [BULK] [trinity-users] Re: bind key to screenshot. - gone off-topic!
by deloptes 09 Nov '19

09 Nov '19

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 William Morder via trinity-users wrote: > I myself would like to get a thread started about email encryption, as > I've mucked around with it, but never have managed both to send and > receive with anybody else; either I don't do it right, or they can't > manage it on their end. But it would be nice to get a grasp of the > fundamentals on crypto, so anybody who wants to get a TDE crypto thread > going, I am in. Perhaps we write a howto in the TDE Wiki. I'm using it since 10+y w/o issue. Important is to setup the keys in kgpg and the sign/encrypt and decrypt functionality in kmail. There is always these two encrypt and decrypt. For the encryption you need the private key. 1-2y ago I provided pinentry-tqt. I don't think it got into the mainstream yet. Otherwise you have to use some other pinentry (gnome,kde, terminal). This is setup in the gpg-agent config. So presumably your key is setup correctly in kgpg and kmail First you verify the key you want to encrypt for in kgpg and trust it (it becomes green), then you can use this email adress (gpg identity) for encrypting mails. I even sign these messages from time to time as others do. regards -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHUEAREIAB0WIQSgzx3AlTPl6H9U20Dx7rjNn7FqUAUCXcZwIwAKCRDx7rjNn7Fq UOicAQCBSQ3iGpoxIMzkTOLBDcC3hunEjRJjm+1VY4Chr+zeWQD/dSA69qT/+0rg blOt8vYSojGb1YZzHTGekbRbA4ilUVU= =1VQl -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Automounting encrypted portable drives
by Janek Stolarek 27 Oct '19

27 Oct '19

Hi all, I have an encrypted portable drive. When I plug it in Konqueror prompts me to provide a password to encrypt the device, but upon enterig the password I get a message saying that this feature is only available with HAL. IIRC HAL has been dropped, wasn't it? Is there any way to get this working? Janek

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Konsole, auto start program upon opening?
by Michael 24 Oct '19

24 Oct '19

Is this possible? Have several tabs open in Konsole. Upon (re)login to TDE have program A automatically run in tab A, program B automatically run in tab B, program C automatically run in tab C? Thanks, Michael

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TDE in WSL
by Jorge Padilla 23 Oct '19

23 Oct '19

Hello Anoyone have tried to install TDE in Ubuntu WSL? I tried to start it but some errors arose: :/opt/trinity/bin$ /opt/trinity/bin/starttde [starttde] Starting starttde. [starttde] This script is /opt/trinity/bin/starttde [starttde] TDE version is R14.0.6 [starttde] TDE base directory is /opt/trinity [starttde] TDEHOME is not set. [starttde] Set TDEHOME to /home/jpadilla/.trinity. [starttde] Setting TDEROOTHOME to /root/.trinity. /opt/trinity/bin/starttde: 1: test: /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games:/mnt/c/Program: unexpected operator /opt/trinity/bin/starttde: 1: test: /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games:/mnt/c/Program: unexpected operator /opt/trinity/bin/starttde: 1: test: /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games:/mnt/c/Program: unexpected operator /opt/trinity/bin/starttde: 1: eval: Syntax error: "(" unexpected I can start kdesktop and twin and konqueror but not the whole desktop experience. Can you help me? Greetings

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problem with tdelauncher
by Uwe Brauer 23 Oct '19

23 Oct '19

Hi I am running Ubuntu 16.04 (64bit) and 4.14.06. Since yesterday I have the following problems 1. when hitting an icon in the panel I receive TDElauncher cannot be reached via DCOP. 2. When trying to copy the icon to the desktop I also obtain cannot talk to tdelauncher. So I have to log out and to logout, then it works for a while but not for long. What is the issue here? Regards Uwe Brauer

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Only single packages from trinity on a Plasma system?
by Dr. Martin Senftleben 22 Oct '19

22 Oct '19

Hi, there is one software the development of which was stopped before KDE moved to plasma, and hence it requires KDE 3. That's why I have TDE running on a virtualbox. I would prefer that package to be available within my system, but I didn't succeed so far. The worst case that happened was that it rendered my system almost useless. Here is the setup: I run Manjaro stable up to date, an Arch derivate. Trinity or TDE is not available for that distribution, as far as I know. I want to use Quanta+ from TDE. Is there a way to get that done? (Maybe I get my hands at the source code some day, but I have no experience with C++ and am not sure if that will ever yield workable results). Regards, Martin

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Advice for distro without systemD
by Larry Stotler 22 Oct '19

22 Oct '19

Hello folks, Been using TDE on openSUSE for a while(and S.u.S.E since v5.3 *sigh*) but I think it's time to move to a non systemD infested distro. I'm not here to debate the merits of it, I've made my decision and I'm looking for advice from those that run TDE on distros that don't use systemD. There's Devuan(never really been a fan of Debian or uBuntu tho). I'm just afraid that Devuan won't be able to keep up. Would love to go back to Slackware, but it seems the lastest version is 3.5.13ish?? Anyway, if you use a non-systemD distro, please let me know how TDE works on it. Thanx

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Update brings lightdm back
by Thierry de Coulon 21 Oct '19

21 Oct '19

Hello all, Just decided to let my Debian 10 update, which it did. Next reboot I got greeted by xfce's login screen (I had installed Debian with xfce), managed to find my way back into TDE running the usuall dpkg-reconfigure lightdm. However I was wondering: if I remove lightdm, what will happen next update? Thierry

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Re: Re: [trinity-users] Re: Advice for distro without systemD
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 20 Oct '19

20 Oct '19

> On 10/19/19, deloptes <deloptes(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > When you define a problem, you can also find a solution - simply saying "I > > don't like it" is not a problem definition. > > I'm not gonna waste time rehashing why I don't want systemD. Went > through something similar when KDE4 came out and was told to get with > the programs and "upgrade". A new version is usually not an upgrade. > > > I've been using Debian with sysv-init, but only because systemd was causing > > problems and I needed time to learn it. The concept of keeping systemd and > > using init was a very good solution. I think I'll keep it on the server, > > but for the desktop, I do not see a reason why you should not use systemd. > > Yep and other people don't see why we don't use KDE5 or GNOME3 instead > of mate/cinnamon. > > > I guess you are also not driving a car from the 30ies. > > Nope. I have 2 from the 80s though. Would have no problem with a car > that old. I might spent a bit more in gas, but my paid off vehicles > don't have a monthly payment & the insurance is cheaper. Always trade > offs. > > Kinda like my almost 15 year old Thinkpad T60p. Does what I need and > has the 4x3 screen that makes it easier for me to get stuff done. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- Agreed Larry. My reply is NOT intended to upset anyone. It's not my place to tell others what to want or use. Just answer the question, which is PCLOS Big Daddy build by Alistair Izzard. Not perfect but I can get everything I need done. Video/audio editing, desktop publishing, internet, email and more. Very reliable, hasn't failed me yet. Thanks Ali. If someone else wants to use something else, wonderful. I look forward the comparison and stories about it. Difference is wonderful. Just answer the question, the why of this question belongs only to the one asking. For the record.... 1974 Chevy Nova Coupe Hatchback RS Thinkpad T60 with a WD SSD Kate hopes off the soap box and mysteriously disappears to the mist.

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more on my kmail 100% problemns
by Gene Heskett 19 Oct '19

19 Oct '19

Greetings; I just noticed that 1 of the 2 lists I had sorted into subdirs by the year, was placing new incoming messages in a subdir I had prepared to hold the 2019 messges, even though the filter rules said to put new incoming that matched that filer rule, into the main folder. So I shift marked the 2019 folders content a month at a time and drug it back to the main emc folder, leaving the 2019 folder empty, so I deleted in and its 3 subdirs. This of course crashed kmail. On restart, its now doing 95%+ but is doing it for only a few milliseconds per core, switching faster than gkrellm can accurately track. But for some reason its skipping core2? ?? ??? And then it crashed again, and I submitted that report. Now on the restart, which nicely saved this message, its back to using all 4 cores for a couple seconds each. But I mentioned it, so it just stuck on core0 for about 15 seconds. Now trying to get some clues from lsof and a few filter stages of grep, I find one instance per year for the emc folder, but the other, "coco" folder and all its subdirs will need a final |wc -l showing 170 instances. I just found I'd not nukes the coco's 2019 indice stuff, so one more restart. But I'll send this first... Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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Ignore - Testing reejected posts
by Michael Howard via trinity-users 19 Oct '19

19 Oct '19

Test, please ignore.

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ignored kmail crash reports.
by Gene Heskett 17 Oct '19

17 Oct '19

Greetings all; Are you send those to /dev/null? I've sent a whole bunch of them. These crashes always seem to be preceded by a couple days of a kmail session burning up a core of 4 cores, bouncing to the next available core, at 99 to 100% at 15 second or so intervals. These seem to be related to kmail finding trash files in its database, causing problems while re-indexing. I have two folders which are subfolders with a given years messages manually sorted into that years corpus. When I relaunch kmail after one of these crashes, I am getting advisories that so-and-so has an index problem, and its generally the top level folder, and 2 or 3 of its subfolders that are named. And the older folders are slowly being emptied, as in messages are disappearing despite having no expiry set up. Can anything be done, or is there something I can check-uncheck someplace? Thanks. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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Some positive changes in TDE DEV
by deloptes 16 Oct '19

16 Oct '19

Hi, recently I followed your discussion regarding "device monitor". I did a refresh on the repository yesterday and compiled latest what I got, installed today and two things made a very good impression. The icon and "Device Monitor" is nice and secondly suddenly my tdebluez app started notifying me when I connect or disconnect one of the phones. I am sure this was not working before and I am not aware of changing anything on the code in this context, so something must have been repaired perhaps in the context of device management. Thank you all for the effort!

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Q: Alternative list background
by Dr. Nikolaus Klepp 04 Oct '19

04 Oct '19

Hi all! I have konqueror set to a dark background with bright font. When I use icon view, things look great. But any list view uses the color from "alternative list background" that is set in tcontrol, which in my case is light to match the light background of all other windows with dark font. This leads to light/dark lines in konqueror (which I do not want, I want dark background and maybe a slightly lighter alaternating background). When I set alternative background to bdark, then konqueror looks fine but e.g. ark has zebra stripes. Does anybody know of a way to make konqueror not use the alternative list background? Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ...

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Cannot find a valid baseurl for repo: trinity-r14/x86_64 ?
by Laws, Peter C. 24 Sep '19

24 Sep '19

CentOS 7, Trinity 14.0.6. Nvidia drivers make me nervous about updates so I'm a little behind ... like 1197 packages. 1196 of them were fine, trinity-tdm was not fine. Now I get Cannot find a valid baseurl for repo: trinity-r14/x86_64 Yes, this is after a 'yum clean all' Ideas? -- Peter Laws, BS, MRCP / N5UWY National Weather Center / Network Operations Center University of Oklahoma Information Technology plaws(a)ou.edu

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Localhost problem !
by Baron 18 Sep '19

18 Sep '19

Hi Guys, Running Q4OS, i7 10Gb ram, HP8300 machine. For some reason when I do "http://me@localhost:630/admin" it can take up to 30 minutes before "CUPS 1.7.5 comes up. The message "localhost contacted, waiting for reply" is shown and a spinner icon. Even when it does it can take a similar time to open a page. Than clicking on "Manage Printers" when it does come up says "Printer Error" "Unable to get printer list" But my printer is shown on the Administration page. I can't print anything any more ! Help please. The Q4OS forum where I was pointed to have not helped at all. Thanks in advance everyone. -- Best Regards: Baron

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Konqueror mount error
by Thierry de Coulon 11 Sep '19

11 Sep '19

Hello all, Debian Buster with R.14.07 (Development). I have an external SATA to USB enclosure with removable discs. When I slip a disc in and turn it on, I get a Konqueror error (unable to mount this device, see attachment). However, I can mount it with no problem from the command line. My guess is that it's a timing problem, Konqueror trying to mount something that is not yet available, but I don't know what to do. I did not have this with Stretch and "stable" TDE, so it might also ave to do with de "Development" version. Thierry

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Re: Re: [trinity-users] Konqueror mount error
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 10 Sep '19

10 Sep '19

> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA512 > > > >> 5) if you retry from Konqueror, do you have a failure again? > > I don't see what you want me to do. The error message appears when I plug in / switch on the external drive. > > If/when it works the drive gets mounted on /media/<user>/<drive> and konqueror opens a window on its content. > > If/when it fails nothing is mounted and I can't do it from Konqueror (or I don't know I can :). > > > > Also, I've noticed that "Safely remove" as user causes unmounting and immediate re-mounting, "unmount" correctly > > unmounts. > > > > As root both work as expected. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Thierry > > > > > Hi Thierry, > > thanks for answering the list of questions. > > > As root both work as expected. > Do you mean that as root you don't have the problem at all? > > Re 5), when it fails, you can go in Konqueror, search the Storage Media in the treeview which in turn lists the > available known drives. Then double click on your failed disk and see if it gets mounted again or not. > Alternatively, you can type "media:/sdg1" (or whatever path) in the location bar and press enter. > > Now that you have d-feet installed, can you also make another test. After a failed mounting, open d-feet, search the > system bus for udisk2 and select it. On the right side you will see many interfaces. Search for object path > /org/freedesktop/UDisks2/block_devices/sdg1 (or other path), expand it and please paste a screenshot. > > Finally, one more thing. Open KDCOP, search for kded -> mediamanager -> fullList function (going by memory here, may > be slightly different name). Double click to execute. In the result section, you will have a list of known disks. Can > you find your disk there? If so, can you paste a screenshot of the properties of that disk? > > Last (but not least), is this a real system or is it running inside VirtualBox (or other VM)? (not a stupid question, > trust me). > > > Cheers > Michele > Do you happen to have trinity-tdeio-umountwrapper installed? It cause weeks worth of problems for me until I figured it out. If you do have it installed, try uninstalling it. Also look at your inode file associations. Maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree here but I thought I'd mention it. Good luck, please let us know what you find. Kate Draven

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tdm
by mb850063＠proximus.be 08 Sep '19

08 Sep '19

Hello, How do I add users in the tdm login interface ? For now, only the main user shows up, ignoring the other ones who have to write their identity manually before adding their password. Cannot find that on internet, neither in the tde portal. BRgds JB

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Good front end for KVM?
by Michael 06 Sep '19

06 Sep '19

Hi All, What’s everyones favorite front end for KVM? I’m looking to use KVM for several VMs (Win, CentOS6, CentOS7) and was looking for something a bit easier to start out on than raw virt-manager. Host OS: MX Linux 18 [Foundation, Debian Stable 9.6 (Stretch)] Desktop: TDE 14.0.6 Thanks, Michael PS: This was my original question, before I realized, asking about a front end was a better choice. Pretty much only applicable if someone here has used, and liked, Boxes... Was: Figuring out Gnome dependencies? I haven’t used Gnome in more than a decade. I found this Gnome app I’d like to try out: Boxes, Virtualization made simple https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Boxes https://www.openhub.net/p/gnome-boxes and was wondering how to A) find out what its dependencies are and B) how to actually install it. A side excursion, trying to figure out B), lead me to Flatpak[1]. I’ve never heard of it before, anyone have any experience or opinions on it? Mostly I don’t want to end up installing most of Gnome just to try out an app. [1] https://flatpak.org/

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Where is the git repo for Preliminary Stable Builds?
by Philip Ashmore 05 Sep '19

05 Sep '19

Hi there. As a Preliminary Stable Builds user I get updates about once a week. apt changelog kate-trinity E: Failed to fetch changelog:/tdebase-trinity.changelog Changelog unavailable for tdebase-trinity=4:14.0.7~pre30-0debian10.0.0+6 Synaptic->(select kate-trinity)-> Get Changelog This change is not coming from a source that supports changelogs. Failed to fetch the changelog for kate-trinity URI was: http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/pool/main-r14/t/tdebase-trinity/kate-t… So being able to examine the git repo to see what changes were made looks like the only option. I may be missing something obvious so apologies in advance if I did. Where is the git repo? Regards, Philip Ashmore

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Ubuntu 16.04, tdepowersave lid hibernate
by Uwe Brauer 30 Aug '19

30 Aug '19

Hi Using Ubuntu 16.04 and tdepowersave, I can configure the power button, but not the lid. I close the lid but it does not hibernate nor suspend, nothing I also tried out to configure it via logind.conf in /etc/systemd HandlePowerKey=poweroff HandleSuspendKey=suspend HandleHibernateKey=hibernate HandleLidSwitch=hibernate HandleLidSwitchDocked=hibernate But it does not help, the lid can't be used for hibernation or suspension. Anybody as an idea? Thanks Uwe Brauer

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BUG: keyboards US-int. Sharp s does not work always
by Uwe Brauer 24 Aug '19

24 Aug '19

Hi I have set three keyboards 1. US (default) 2. US international ("a --> ä altgr + s--> ß) 3. Hebrew Step to reproduce the bug 1. I log in, 2. I type with the default US keyboard. 3. I chose US internation, everything works 4. I switch to the Hebrew keyboad. 5. I switch to US keyboard 6. I switch to the US international keyboard. Now "a-->ä works but altgr + s --> s Can anybody confirm this please. Any fix? Regards Uwe Brauer

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tdegraphics & FreeBSD & poppler: compile problem
by Dr. Nikolaus Klepp 23 Aug '19

23 Aug '19

Hi all! I just tried to recompile TDE on FreeBSD 12.0-RELEASE-p9. While everything really builds nicely, I ran into a problem with new poppler library: Looks like GooList is nonexisting in poppler-0.78.0: /usr/home/nik/TDE/tde-packaging/freebsd/tdegraphics/work/tdegraphics-trinity_14.0.6/tdefile-plugins/dependencies/poppler-tqt/poppler-document.cc:130:12: error: cannot initialize a variable of type 'std::vector<OutlineItem *> *' with an rvalue of type 'std::vector<FontInfo *> *' GooList *items = data->m_fontInfoScanner->scan( numPages ); ^ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /usr/home/nik/TDE/tde-packaging/freebsd/tdegraphics/work/tdegraphics-trinity_14.0.6/tdefile-plugins/dependencies/poppler-tqt/poppler-document.cc:147:3: error: use of undeclared identifier 'deleteGooList' deleteGooList<::FontInfo>(items); ^ Does anybody have a good idea what to do about it? Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ...

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TDE on Ubuntu looks different
by Thierry de Coulon 23 Aug '19

23 Aug '19

I am not used to Ubuntu, but I did install 18.04 to test AMD's graphic driver (which does not perform so much better than the FOSS one). However I have noticed that the (TDE) login screen on Ubuntu is different than the one on Debian: Can't get the TDE logo or the logout pictures to show. Not really important but it puzzles me... Thierry

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tdm.log: more than repeated 100.000 messages: "unable to receive message"
by Stefan Krusche 21 Aug '19

21 Aug '19

Good day everyone, I recently noticed tens of thousands of repeated messages of this kind in /var/log/tdm.log: unable to receive message […] unable to receive message XIO: fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server ":0" after 97881 requests (97881 known processed) with 185 events remaining. (II) Server terminated successfully (0). Closing log file. # or: unable to receive message twin: Fatal IO error: client killed krootimage: Fatal IO error: client killed XIO: fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server ":0" after 951 requests (951 known processed) with 6 events remaining. (II) Server terminated successfully (0). Closing log file. where "unable to receive message" is the almost innumerably repeated part. I'm running TDE: R14.0.6 PSB on Devuan/ascii Has anyone seen this or any idea where it comes from? Kind regards, Stefan

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/var/log/tdm.log grows rapidly
by Stefan Krusche 21 Aug '19

21 Aug '19

Good Day, /var/log/tdm.log gets filled up with hundreds of thousands of this particular message: unable to receive message unable to receive message unable to receive message unable to receive message […] After a couple of weeks not being rotated it has grown up to more than 100MB. Where does this message come from, TDE or any other program? What could be the solution to remedy that behaviour? Thank you for any hints. Kind regards, Stefan

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/etc/trinity/tdm/Xsetup not working on Buster
by Thierry de Coulon 14 Aug '19

14 Aug '19

Hi all, Maybe not really a Trinity issue, but: On my Toshiba z20t, I have setup so that I get an onscreen keyboard at login, for the (rare) occasions where I use the computer as a tablet. This had been talked about some time ago on this list and involves adding onboard & in /etc/trinity/tdm/Xsetup and killall onboard in /etc/trinity/tdm/Xstartup Now, the issue: this works perfectly on Stretch. It does not on Buster. Both installs on the same machine. Onboard itself works, simlpy it does not appear on the login screen on my Buster install. The only difference I can find (except for Debian's version) is that Buster's Trinity was installed from Slavek's repository. Thierry

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Konqueror - Modify Right Click menu?
by Michael 08 Aug '19

08 Aug '19

Hi All, Is there a way to modify the Right Click menu in Konqueror? Specifically I’m trying to get the first choice from “Open with” to be on the right click main menu. Similar to when there is only one option to open the file type with (without having to delete all the available options but one). Before: Move to Trash Delete Open with => Preview with => Actions => Afterwards: Move to Trash Delete Open with KWrite Open with => Preview with => Actions => Thanks, Michael Ref: Submenu “Open with”: KWrite Kate Kedit Nano ...

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Systemd
by Baron 08 Aug '19

08 Aug '19

Hi Guys, Using Q4OS Trinity Desktop. Systemd is becoming a nuisance. Where do you alter the timeout for Systemd. Thanks in advance, in particular the developers and maintainers of Trinity. -- Best Regards: Baron.

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confirmation of TDE key ring failure
by James D. Freels 08 Aug '19

08 Aug '19

Hello ! For several days now, I get the following error when updating or upgrading my TDE. Note: I am using the development archive for debian/buster or debian/stretch testing; i.e., deb http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity-sb buster deps-r14 main-r14 (or buster if testing buster). The error messages from stretch update: W: GPG error: http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity-sb stretch InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY C93AF1698685AD8B W: The repository 'http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity-sb stretch InRelease' is not signed. N: Data from such a repository can't be authenticated and is therefore potentially dangerous to use. N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details. A similar error message if updating the buster archive. Yes, I have installed ii trinity-keyring 4:14.0.7~pre3-0debian9.0.0+2 all GnuPG key of the Trinity Desktop Environment repository and, I have also tried the command wget http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/deb/trinity-keyring.deb but cannot seem to rid the error. The testing is going fine and I can actually install the packages with the "--allow-unauthenticated", but of course, I would rather not ! Anyone else with this problem? Is there a way to correct it on my end? -- James D. Freels, Ph.D., P.E. freelsjd(a)gmail.com

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Just had a reason to reboot one of my machines remotely.
by Gene Heskett 08 Aug '19

08 Aug '19

Greetings; And I had just had it update everything, 162 of the 165 packages being from TDE. From here, all indications of an extended to 20 minutes e2fsck or something. No response to a ping, no response to an attempted ssh -Y alias login. So I slip on a t-shirt and stumble out to the machine at 3AM, to be greeted by its own login greeter. So I logged in, all normal. And now that I'm logged in there, everything else is also working normally. So its own login has been moved up early so nothing in the way of services is running until after the local login. This. to be blunt, is a disaster for the way I have normally worked to maintain these machines for over a decade. Can this be unfixed? Its a right pain in the ass to be locked out of a machine because the local login hasn't been done. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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PATH not set for root on Buster
by Thierry de Coulon 08 Aug '19

08 Aug '19

I understand this is a Debian problem, not a TDE problem, however: On one machine I have installed Debian Stretch + TDE; no problem. On the same machine I installed (on another partition) Buster + TDE. Seems to work, however most commands don't work from konsole with su. The reason is that the path does not contain important directories. Now the following I don't really understand: The path is ok in the different files I could check. I've added "export PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin" to /root/.profile but it does not work. The result is that a command such as dpkg -i or dpkg-reconfigure does not work, until I issue the export PATH= directly in konsole Debian is fresh installed with netinstall. This is really inconvenient, so of there is no way to cure it I'm going back to Stretch. Thierry

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Cannot compile TQt. Shows a error.
by Komputery Poradniki 06 Aug '19

06 Aug '19

Welcome, I can not compile TQt. When I press the make button, it displays that there is an error (not critical) that the code is loaded. Logs in the file. Operating system: Ubuntu 19.04 GCC Version: 8.3.0 Greetings, Onmp314

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Dependency errors
by Rick Ellis 05 Aug '19

05 Aug '19

Lots of packages to update but a number of -devel's are needed and not available: MIRROR] libart_lgpl-devel-2.3.22-14.0.6_1.fc29.x86_64.rpm: Status code: 404 for http://tde-mirror.yosemite.net/trinity/trinity/rpm/f29/trinity-r14/RPMS/x86… (3/236): libmemcached-libs-1.0.18-14.fc29.x86_64.rpm 318 kB/s | 130 kB 00:00 [MIRROR] libtqt3-mt-devel-3.5.0-14.0.6_1.fc29.x86_64.rpm: Status code: 404 for http://tde-mirror.yosemite.net/trinity/trinity/rpm/f29/trinity-r14/RPMS/x86… [MIRROR] libart_lgpl-devel-2.3.22-14.0.6_1.fc29.x86_64.rpm: Status code: 404 for http://kuiper.mirrorservice.org/sites/trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity/rp… [MIRROR] libtqt3-mt-devel-3.5.0-14.0.6_1.fc29.x86_64.rpm: Status code: 404 for http://kuiper.mirrorservice.org/sites/trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity/rp… (4/236): libyaz-5.14.11-14.fc29.x86_64.rpm 885 kB/s | 466 kB 00:00 [MIRROR] libtqt4-devel-4.2.0-14.0.6_1.fc29.x86_64.rpm: Status code: 404 for http://kuiper.mirrorservice.org/sites/trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity/rp… [MIRROR] libtqt4-devel-4.2.0-14.0.6_1.fc29.x86_64.rpm: Status code: 404 for http://tde-mirror.yosemite.net/trinity/trinity/rpm/f29/trinity-r14/RPMS/x86… [MIRROR] libart_lgpl-devel-2.3.22-14.0.6_1.fc29.x86_64.rpm: Status code: 404 for http://copernicus.mirrorservice.org/sites/trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinit… [MIRROR] libtqt3-mt-devel-3.5.0-14.0.6_1.fc29.x86_64.rpm: Status code: 404 for http://copernicus.mirrorservice.org/sites/trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinit… [MIRROR] libtqt4-devel-4.2.0-14.0.6_1.fc29.x86_64.rpm: Status code: 404 for http://copernicus.mirrorservice.org/sites/trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinit… [MIRROR] libtqt3-mt-devel-3.5.0-14.0.6_1.fc29.x86_64.rpm: Status code: 404 for http://mirror.ntmm.org/trinity/trinity/rpm/f29/trinity-r14/RPMS/x86_64/libt… [MIRROR] libart_lgpl-devel-2.3.22-14.0.6_1.fc29.x86_64.rpm: Status code: 404 for http://mirror.ntmm.org/trinity/trinity/rpm/f29/trinity-r14/RPMS/x86_64/liba… [MIRROR] libtqt4-devel-4.2.0-14.0.6_1.fc29.x86_64.rpm: Status code: 404 for http://mirror.ntmm.org/trinity/trinity/rpm/f29/trinity-r14/RPMS/x86_64/libt… [MIRROR] libtqt3-mt-devel-3.5.0-14.0.6_1.fc29.x86_64.rpm: Status code: 404 for http://ftp.fau.de/trinity/trinity/rpm/f29/trinity-r14/RPMS/x86_64/libtqt3-m… [FAILED] libtqt3-mt-devel-3.5.0-14.0.6_1.fc29.x86_64.rpm: No more mirrors to try - All mirrors were already tried without success (6-7/236): libtqt4-devel-4.2.0-14.0.6_1.fc29.x86_64.rpm 0% [ ] 1.1 MB/s | 1.2 MB 05:15 ETA The downloaded packages were saved in cache until the next successful transaction. You can remove cached packages by executing 'dnf clean packages'. Error: Error downloading packages: Cannot download libtqt3-mt-devel-3.5.0-14.0.6_1.fc29.x86_64.rpm: All mirrors were tried

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System Tray Dropbox opens wrong application
by Marvin Jones via trinity-users 04 Aug '19

04 Aug '19

This has to be file association "thing", but I'm not sure how to get to the solution. Ubuntu 16.04 TDE 14.0.7 I just added dropbox (for my existing Dropbox account) to a computer where it was not yet installed. Everything works "OK" ... .... except: Clicking on the System Tray object brings up the Dropbox menu. Then clicking on "Open Dropbox Folder" brings up Kid3 !!!! (kid3: the mp3 sound tag editor) I'm pretty sure 'it' wants to launch a file manager, but I do not know how to look behind the curtain of the System Tray object and see what it is attempting to do. And, if I go into Trinity Control Center >> TDE Components >> File Associations -- I see I might have a thousand or more file types and associations. But, I do not know how Dropbox is issuing the request -- e.g., I do not know what file type is involved. I must be overlooking something to debug this. What? Thank you, Jonesy -- Marvin L Jones | Marvin | W3DHJ | linux Pueblo, Colorado | @ | Jonesy | FreeBSD __ 38.238N 104.547W | jonz.net | DM78rf | OS/2 SK

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Can't compile Tqt3. This show error.
by Komputery Poradniki 03 Aug '19

03 Aug '19

Welcome, I'm can't compile Tqt3. When I press make, it shows me an error. Below the logs: g++ -c -pipe -g -fvisibility=hidden -fvisibility-inlines-hidden -Wall -W -O2 -D_REENTRANT -DTQT_NO_DEBUG -DTQT_THREAD_SUPPORT -DQT_SHARED -I/home/aleksander/tde/main/dependencies/tqt3/mkspecs/linux-g++ -I. -I../aclock -I../dclock -I../../include -I.moc/release-shared/ -o .obj/release-shared/widgets.o widgets.cpp widgets.cpp: In member function ‘void WidgetView::showProperties()’: widgets.cpp:750:21: error: call of overloaded ‘tqDebug(TQCString&)’ is ambiguous tqDebug( output ); ^ In file included from ../../include/ntqobjectdefs.h:45, from ../../include/ntqwindowdefs.h:46, from ../../include/ntqwidget.h:45, from ../../include/ntqdialog.h:45, from ../../include/ntqmessagebox.h:45, from widgets.cpp:10: ../../include/ntqglobal.h:960:15: note: candidate: ‘void tqDebug(const TQString&)’ Q_EXPORT void tqDebug( const TQString& ); // print debug message ^~~~~~~ ../../include/ntqglobal.h:961:15: note: candidate: ‘void tqDebug(const char*, ...)’ Q_EXPORT void tqDebug( const char *, ... ) // print debug message ^~~~~~~ Linux OS: Ubuntu 19.04 GCC Version: 8.3.0 Computer: Lenovo Thinkpad T420 Greetings, Onmp314

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Problems with TDEsu
by J Leslie Turriff 01 Aug '19

01 Aug '19

For quite a while now I've been unable to use TDEsu to open utilities that require root access, e.g. TDM configuration. TDEsu freezes after I enter the root password and press Enter. When I run it from the command line I see > tdesu: WARNING: Daemon not safe (not sgid), not using it. Looking at /opt/trinity/bin/tdesud, I saw that indeed, it was not sgid, so I set that bit; but it still hangs, albeit without the message. I see that there are four programs associated with this function: > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 59912 2019-03-18 15:53:08 /opt/trinity/bin/tdesu > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 14544 2019-03-18 15:37:31 /opt/trinity/bin/tdesu_stub > -rwxr-sr-x 1 root root 55440 2019-03-18 15:53:08 /opt/trinity/bin/tdesud > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 72200 2019-03-19 15:10:26 /opt/trinity/bin/tdesudo Should other bits be set for one or more of these? Is there a missing entry in /etc/group? What else should I look for? N.B. I have tried reinstalling the package containing TDEsu, but that hasn't helped. Leslie

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Random session restore failures
by Philip Ashmore 01 Aug '19

01 Aug '19

Hi there. Programs that sometimes fail to restore across boots: Kate Konsole Konqueror Thunderbird Sometimes when Konsole restores it forgets the "Paper" schema and reverts to default. Sometimes the sound starts muted and I have to enable it with kmixer which tells me that I have two mixers, PulseAudio and "HDA Intel PCH". Maybe that's because I end the session with earphones plugged in and start it with them unplugged, not sure. I had these problems before upgrading to Buster, but they seem to be happening more frequently recently. Is there somewhere session restore errors are logged? Unrelated ping: currently System Guard does not show network speed: http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2398 Regards, Philip Ashmore

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auto Right-click on selection
by Christian Schmitz 31 Jul '19

31 Jul '19

Hi all. I have a Opensuse tumbleweed 7 days from update. And i foun a strange "function". Every time that i select something automatically is pressed right click ( drop down the menú). This is very annioning because select some files on konqueror implies move without question ( takes the right click as an anwser to menú move/copy/link) Personally i want disable any type of automation. Really i allways preffer do my own task, i dont like the autocopy to clipboard of selected text (strange thing from some time), no right click, i can done it if i want do it. Best Regards. Christian -- Be Free, Be Linux

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Fedora 30
by Rick Ellis 29 Jul '19

29 Jul '19

Fedora 30 has been out for a while now. Will there be packages for it sometime soon?

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TDE keyboard layout crashes when clicked on systray icon
by Stefan Krusche 27 Jul '19

27 Jul '19

Good day everyone, has anybody seen this? I prepared a bug report. I'm not sure where I should post it these days… TGW rather than bugzilla, I guess, right? Problem: When I click on the systray icon the xserver crashes fatally. TDE configuration: TDE keyboard layout is configured to provide de, de-neo, en-us keyboard layouts in that order. Keyboard layouts are applied at program level. Reproduce: Click on desktop and/or program window and then click on keyboard layout icon in systray. Symptoms: The screen goes black immediately and I have no more control via keyboard or mouse. After ~20-25 seconds I can hear a beep from the mainboard (it's a desktop PC), after another ~10-15 seconds I hear another beep, and sometimes a third one, after which a console screen appears from which I gather that Xorg crashed fatally. Any advice welcome, thanks. Kind regards, Stefan

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Tmux in Konsole = screen corruption in Debian Buster
by Jan Stolarek 27 Jul '19

27 Jul '19

I noticed another problem after a recent update to Debian Buster: using Tmux in Konsole leads to screen corruption. More specifically, cleaning the screen (e.g. via Ctrl+L) does not work, leaving the screen garbled. At first I thought that this might have something to do with my tmux or .bashrc, but removing their config and running both bash and tmux on default settings leads to same results. Also, I noticed that the problem is only present in Konsole - other terminal emulators (e.g. xterm, lxterminal) work fine. Anyone knows a workaround? Janek --- Politechnika Łódzka Lodz University of Technology Treść tej wiadomości zawiera informacje przeznaczone tylko dla adresata. Jeżeli nie jesteście Państwo jej adresatem, bądź otrzymaliście ją przez pomyłkę prosimy o powiadomienie o tym nadawcy oraz trwałe jej usunięcie. This email contains information intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient or if you have received this message in error, please notify the sender and delete it from your system.

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[trinity-users] A stop job is running for Trinity Display Manager (## / 1min 30s)
by Felix Miata 25 Jul '19

25 Jul '19

I'm encountering this shutdown delay too frequently. What causes it? Current instance is on Buster, host fi965. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/

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Just discovered X-Face and that it is supported in TDE
by deloptes 25 Jul '19

25 Jul '19

this is a test for it :)

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to adjust the brigtness of the screen
by andre_debian＠numericable.fr 25 Jul '19

25 Jul '19

Hello, ls -al /sys/class//backlight/ intel_backlight -> ../../devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/drm/card0/card0-eDP-1/intel_backlight ls -al /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/ no file xbacklight is installed. To adjust the brigtness : Menu => Trinity Configuration Center => Périphériques => Hardware Device Manager => Backlight => Intel HD Graphics 520 and I can adjust the brightness from 0 to 100%, but the value is not keeped if I close the session. The default value = 62% This is the situation. Regards, André

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Trinity won't start after updating Arch Linux - workaround for libice
by Snidely Whiplash 23 Jul '19

23 Jul '19

I just subscribed so I could post this workaround. It took me days to figure out what was actually wrong with the libice in Archaroo (I use Manjaro, but it's Arch's PGKBUILDS that they use for these packages). It's misleading because of the "ICE connection refused! No supported authentication protocols" etc. What happened is that the location of ICEauthority has been changed to /run/user/UID/ICEauthority (which is $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR) from ~/.ICEauthority and it doesn't jibe. Blank files are being created in both locations, that don't get the magic cookie data written to them. A workaround is to simply set an ICEAUTHORITY environment variable... export ICEAUTHORITY=/home/yourname/.ICEauthority I just added that variable to the top of my ~/.xinitrc file that I use with startx export ICEAUTHORITY=/home/grogan/.ICEauthority exec starttde I am using current git sources for trinity, and that workaround works for me. I love Trinity by the way, it's my favourite desktop in the world. (I liked KDE 3.x back in the day).

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Re: [trinity-users] Just discovered X-Face and that it is supported in TDE
by J Leslie Turriff 23 Jul '19

23 Jul '19

On 2019-07-23 15:43:00 deloptes wrote: > this is a test for it :) > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > trinity-users-unsubscribe(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net For additional > commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net Read list > messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ > Please remember not to top-post: > http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting It supposedly causes the mail or news reader "display the face before the From header". Seems to have no effect in kmail... Ah, my mistake; in the header of your post I see a black square on the right. How useful...

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Trinity won't start after updating Arch Linux
by Lucas dos Santos 23 Jul '19

23 Jul '19

Hi, I just installed Trinity R14.0.5 [1] in a recently installed Arch Linux based system and I'm not able to start the DM. I added 'exec starttde' line to .xinitrc and made the needed changes in my PATH variable, but, when I issue startx command, TDE won't open. Instead, the following message is shown: ----------- There was an error setting up inter-process communications for TDE. The message returned by the system was: Could not read network connection list. /home/username/.DCOPserver_hostname__0 Please check that the "dcopserver program is running! ---------- When I click 'OK', the TDE's splash screen appears, but the first icon keeps flash infinitely and the above mentioned message appears again underneath them. When I click on splash screen, it disappears and when I click in OK again, X exits to tty. The following video shows exactly what occurs: https://streamable.com/mlqy3 This is the output from starttde command: $ starttde [starttde] Starting starttde. [starttde] This script is /opt/trinity/bin/starttde [starttde] TDE version is R14.0.5 [starttde] TDE base directory is /opt/trinity [starttde] TDEHOME is not set. [starttde] Set TDEHOME to /home/lucas/.trinity. [starttde] Setting TDEROOTHOME to /root/.trinity. [starttde] XDG_DATA_DIRS: /opt/trinity/share:/usr/local/share:/usr/share gpg-agent: a gpg-agent is already running - not starting a new one [starttde] TDEDIR: /opt/trinity [starttde] TDEDIRS: [starttde] Starting Trinity... [starttde] Trinity hardware control dbus daemon running. [tdeinit] Launched DCOPServer, pid = 744 result = 0 /usr/bin/iceauth: creating new authority file /run/user/1000/ICEauthority [dcopserver] ICE Connection rejected! DCOPClient::attachInternal. Attach failed Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed [dcopserver] ICE Connection rejected! DCOPClient::attachInternal. Attach failed Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed [dcopserver] DCOPServer self-test failed. [tdeinit] DCOPServer could not be started, aborting. [starttde] TDE_FULL_SESSION: true [starttde] TDE_SESSION_UID: 1000 [tdeinit] Launched DCOPServer, pid = 759 result = 0 [dcopserver] ICE Connection rejected! DCOPClient::attachInternal. Attach failed Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed [dcopserver] ICE Connection rejected! DCOPClient::attachInternal. Attach failed Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed [dcopserver] DCOPServer self-test failed. [tdeinit] DCOPServer could not be started, aborting. [starttde] tdeinit started successfully. [tdeinit wrapper] Warning: socket connection failed: : Connection refused [tdecore-tdeapplication] Found visual with alpha support [tdecore-tdeapplication] Found visual with alpha support [tdeinit] Launched DCOPServer, pid = 769 result = 0 [dcopserver] ICE Connection rejected! DCOPClient::attachInternal. Attach failed Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed [dcopserver] ICE Connection rejected! DCOPClient::attachInternal. Attach failed Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed [dcopserver] DCOPServer self-test failed. [tdeinit] DCOPServer could not be started, aborting. [KSMServer] Could not register with DCOPServer. Aborting. ERROR: Couldn't attach to DCOP server! [starttde] Shutting down Trinity... [tdeinit wrapper] Warning: socket connection failed: : Connection refused [tdeinit wrapper] Error: Can't contact tdeinit! [starttde] Running Trinity shutdown scripts... [starttde] Running /opt/trinity/shutdown/agent-shutdown.sh. [starttde] Trinity shutdown complete. Deleting files from ~/.trinity and /tmp directories [2] doesn't solve the problem. I have an old installation of Arch Linux in a virtual machine where Trinity works perfectly. So, I decided to play around with it and do some tests. That system was a little outdated. Thus I decided to do a pacman -Syu in order to update the system's packages. After updating, I no more could to start Trinity. It looks like that a new version from some package is breaking Trinity. Which one? I have no idea! But, I saved a list of the updated packages and also a list of packages' version before updating. Maybe some of you could try to find what package is causing the problem. Trinity works fine with the following packages' version: argon2-20171227-3 audit-2.8.5-2 btrfs-progs-5.1-1 bzip2-1.0.6-8 ca-certificates-mozilla-3.44-1 cmake-3.14.5-1 curl-7.65.1-2 dbus-1.12.14-1 dhcpcd-7.2.1-1 e2fsprogs-1.45.2-1 expat-2.2.6-1 ffmpeg-1:4.1.3-1 firefox-67.0.2-1 freetype2-2.10.0-2 gcc-8.3.0-1 gcc-libs-8.3.0-1 glib2-2.60.4-1 glibc-2.29-1 gnupg-2.2.16-1 gnutls-3.6.8-1 gpgme-1.13.0-1 grub-2:2.02-8 gtk-update-icon-cache-1:3.24.8+177+gae2ef1472c-1 gtk3-1:3.24.8+177+gae2ef1472c-1 guile-2.2.4-2 harfbuzz-2.5.1-1 iana-etc-20190531-1 iproute2-5.1.0-1 iptables-1:1.8.2-1 iso-codes-4.2-1 js60-60.7.0-1 kidletime-5.59.0-1 kwayland-5.59.0-1 kwindowsystem-5.59.0-1 lcms2-2.9-1 less-550-1 libarchive-3.3.3-1 libblockdev-2.21-1 libdrm-2.4.98-1 libice-1.0.9-2 libinput-1.13.2-1 libkscreen-5.16.0-1 libnftnl-1.1.1-1 libpciaccess-0.14-1 libqtxdg-3.3.1-3 libraw-0.19.2-1 libssh-0.8.7-1 libtool-2.4.6+42+gb88cebd5-3 libtorrent-rasterbar-1:1.1.12-1 libutil-linux-2.33.2-1 libuv-1.29.1-1 libva-2.4.1-1 libvpx-1.8.0-1 libwebp-1.0.2-1 libx11-1.6.7-1 libxi-1.7.9-2 libxt-1.1.5-2 libyaml-0.2.1-1 libzip-1.5.2-1 linux-5.1.9.arch1-1 linux-api-headers-5.0.7-1 linux-firmware-20190514.711d329-1 mesa-19.0.6-1 nano-4.2-1 nettle-3.4.1-1 nss-3.44-1 opera-60.0.3255.170-1 perl-5.30.0-2 polkit-0.116-1 proj-5.2.0-1 qt5-base-5.12.3-2 qt5-script-5.12.3-1 qt5-svg-5.12.3-1 qt5-x11extras-5.12.3-1 solid-5.59.0-1 sqlite-3.28.0-1 systemd-242.29-1 systemd-libs-242.29-1 systemd-sysvcompat-242.29-1 tzdata-2019a-1 udisks2-2.8.2-1 util-linux-2.33.2-1 wget-1.20.3-1 x265-3.0-1 xorg-fonts-encodings-1.0.4-5 xorg-server-1.20.5-1 xorg-server-common-1.20.5-1 xorg-server-devel-1.20.5-1 xorg-server-xdmx-1.20.5-1 xorg-server-xephyr-1.20.5-1 xorg-server-xnest-1.20.5-1 xorg-server-xvfb-1.20.5-1 xorg-server-xwayland-1.20.5-1 xorg-setxkbmap-1.3.1-2 xorg-xauth-1.0.10-2 xorg-xbacklight-1.2.2-1 xorg-xclock-1.0.8-1 xorg-xinput-1.6.2-2 xorg-xwininfo-1.1.4-1 xorgproto-2018.4-1 xscreensaver-5.42-1 xterm-346-1 But, if I upgrade that packages, Trinity won't start. These are the current packages' version: argon2-20190702-1 audit-2.8.5-3 btrfs-progs-5.2-1 bzip2-1.0.8-2 ca-certificates-mozilla-3.45-1 cmake-3.15.0-1 curl-7.65.1-3 dbus-1.12.16-1 dhcpcd-7.2.2-1 e2fsprogs-1.45.3-1 expat-2.2.7-1 ffmpeg-1:4.1.4-1 firefox-68.0.1-2 freetype2-2.10.1-1 gcc-9.1.0-2 gcc-libs-9.1.0-2 glib2-2.60.5-1 glibc-2.29-3 gnupg-2.2.17-2 gnutls-3.6.8-3 gpgme-1.13.1-1 grub-2:2.04-1 gtk-update-icon-cache-1:3.24.10-1 gtk3-1:3.24.10-1 guile-2.2.6-1 harfbuzz-2.5.3-1 iana-etc-20190702-1 iproute2-5.2.0-1 iptables-1:1.8.3-1 iso-codes-4.3-1 js60-60.8.0-1 kidletime-5.60.0-1 kwayland-5.60.0-1 kwindowsystem-5.60.0-1 lcms2-2.9-2 less-551-1 libarchive-3.4.0-2 libblockdev-2.22-1 libdrm-2.4.99-1 libice-1.0.10-1 libinput-1.13.4-1 libkscreen-5.16.3-1 libnftnl-1.1.3-1 libpciaccess-0.16-1 libqtxdg-3.3.1-5libraw-0.19.3-1 libssh-0.9.0-1 libtool-2.4.6+42+gb88cebd5-4 libtorrent-rasterbar-1:1.1.13-1 libutil-linux-2.34-3 libuv-1.30.1-1 libva-2.5.0-1 libvpx-1.8.1-1 libwebp-1.0.3-1 libx11-1.6.8-1 libxi-1.7.10-1 libxt-1.2.0-1 libyaml-0.2.2-1 libzip-1.5.2-2 linux-5.2.1.arch1-1 linux-api-headers-5.1-1 linux-firmware-20190712.d52556e-1 mesa-19.1.2-1 qt5-base-5.13.0-7 qt5-script-5.13.0-1 qt5-svg-5.13.0-1 qt5-x11extras-5.13.0-1 solid-5.60.0-1 sqlite-3.29.0-1 systemd-242.32-3 systemd-libs-242.32-3 systemd-sysvcompat-242.32-3 tzdata-2019b-1 udisks2-2.8.3-1 util-linux-2.34-3 wget-1.20.3-2 x265-3.1.1-1 xorg-fonts-encodings-1.0.5-1 xorg-server-1.20.5-2 xorg-server-common-1.20.5-2 xorg-server-devel-1.20.5-2 xorg-server-xdmx-1.20.5-2 xorg-server-xephyr-1.20.5-2 xorg-server-xnest-1.20.5-2 xorg-server-xvfb-1.20.5-2 xorg-server-xwayland-1.20.5-2 xorg-setxkbmap-1.3.2-1 xorg-xauth-1.1-1 xorg-xbacklight-1.2.3-1 xorg-xclock-1.0.9-1 xorg-xinput-1.6.3-1 xorg-xwininfo-1.1.5-1 xorgproto-2019.1-1 xscreensaver-5.43-1 xterm-347-1 I don't know if this is a Trinity or Arch Linux issue, but the fact is that I'm unable to use TDE. If at least I knew what package is causing this I could temporarily keep outdated until this problem is solved. Thanks for your attention. NOTES: [1] http://repo.nasutek.com/arch/contrib/trinity/x86_64/ [2] https://www.trinitydesktop.org/faq/install.php#greyscreen

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Beowulf error
by Pisini, John 23 Jul '19

23 Jul '19

So I decided to try out Devuan Beowulf this weekend and got it installed no issues did run into a few minor issues but I was able to work through them. So I added the following to my sources list: deb http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity-sb beowulf deps-r14 main-r14 Which I believe is correct if not let me know as I know there is no stable and I have had good luck with the preliminary stable branch. I do an apt-get update and I get the following: Conflicting distribution: http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity-sb beowulf InRelease (expected beowulf but got buster) Not sure why I am getting it. It looks like I could still do the install as a search shows all the packages but I am not sure if I should or not. I am in XFCE right now but would prefer Trinity.

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What happened to kfontsel?
by J Leslie Turriff 21 Jul '19

21 Jul '19

I don't often use it, but when I wanted to look up the appearances of various font typefaces, hmmm... kfontsel is gone! Leslie

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konqueror --help-all: return code 254
by Stefan Krusche 18 Jul '19

18 Jul '19

Good day everyone, why does this command in bash: $ konqueror --help-all output return code 254? $ echo $? 254 Shouldn't that be zero? Kind regards, Stefan

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Re: [trinity-users] PDF crash issue
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 18 Jul '19

18 Jul '19

> --000000000000bc3ec8058d8d9e2f > Content-Type: text/plain; charset"UTF-8" > > It looks like there is a regression in the prerelease R14.0.7 whenever I > double click a PDF file in Konqueror it crashes saying nspluginviewer > caused the signal 11. > If I right click and do open with Kpdf it opens fine. > Yep, seen that before. This netscape plugin is a PITA. Whenever I do an update. Lots of file associations are bonked. For example audio ogg files, which are associated to multimedia apps like Amarok, are suddenly associated with netscape plugin. Is the plugin even needed anymore? Kate

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Konqueror view preset
by de.bug 18 Jul '19

18 Jul '19

Hi, The Konqueror preset for the View Mode is "Icon View", which IMHO is the worst possible, as it gives no information at all except for the file type. So I always have to change this to "Detailled List View", for every tab and every new window. That is very tiresome, it keeps haunting me for years now. There surely must be a way to configure this once and for all? Unfortunately I have not found the proper config file so far. Any hints? Regards, Michael

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TDE ksmserver: is it possible to save and invoke several sessions under different names
by Stefan Krusche 17 Jul '19

17 Jul '19

Good day everyone, until now it appeared to me that TDE is only able to save the current session through TDE Menu -> Save Session. At the same time, as long as I remember, the in this way subsequently saved sessions turn up as a set of session files in ~/.trinity/share/config/session and stay there, i.e. are never deleted, not even, when the session is saved next time. I have always wondered because I have never found a way to access the "other", older saved sessions… Now. Also in ~/.trinity/share/config/ksmserverrc several sessions are saved with instructions to load or delete their respective session files in ~/.trinity/share/config/session. Let's have a closer look. Out of curiosity I played with dcop and got this: $ dcop ksmserver ksmserver […] void saveCurrentSessionAs(TQString) […] So it seems there is a function "saveCurrentSessionAs" which would save a session with an individual name given as an argument "(TQString)". I tried: $ dcop ksmserver ksmserver saveCurrentSessionAs "MySession" No error. The session files are created in ~/.trinity/share/config/session just as when you would save a session via TDE Menu -> Save Session. Then I looked in ~/.trinity/share/config/session and voilá, there appears a session with the name "MySession". There are three sessions listed: [LegacySession: MySession] clientMachine1=localhost command1=soffice count=1 [LegacySession: saved at previous logout] count=0 [LegacySession: saved by user] count=0 which then are described under their individual tags, obviously the information needed for ksmserver to restore them: [Session: MySession] […] [Session: saved at previous logout] […] [Session: saved by user] […] I am familiar with TDE's ability to start with "Session: saved by user" and "Session: saved at previous logout" and have always thought "that was it, there's no more ways to save and restore sessions" because these are the only available options in TDE Control Center -> TDE Components -> Session Manager. Until today when I found the above mentioned method to save an additional session with it's own name. Question: How to restore that session that I have saved with the name "MySession"? Or is it a feature implemented only halfway…? Any feedback welcome. Kind regards, Stefan

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TLS in KMail not working after Buster upgrade
by Jan Stolarek 17 Jul '19

17 Jul '19

Dear all, I just did an upgrade from Debian Stretch to Buster. All seems to have went well, except one thing. When KMail attempts to fetch mail via IMAP from a server that requires TLS I get an error saying "Error initializing TLS". (Or something similar - I'm translating from Polish. The exact message in Polish is "Błąd podczas uruchamiania TLS".) Any ideas? Janek --- Politechnika Łódzka Lodz University of Technology Treść tej wiadomości zawiera informacje przeznaczone tylko dla adresata. Jeżeli nie jesteście Państwo jej adresatem, bądź otrzymaliście ją przez pomyłkę prosimy o powiadomienie o tym nadawcy oraz trwałe jej usunięcie. This email contains information intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient or if you have received this message in error, please notify the sender and delete it from your system.

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crashed kded.
by Gene Heskett 17 Jul '19

17 Jul '19

I just installed a new kbd/mouse combo with only one common dongle. Exploring the row of extra keys above the Fkeys, I found the audio mute/volup/voldown worked but the one with a power off/on symbol crashed kded, and now that whole row of buttons is dead. And can't be restarted. But I was able to kill it with a root session of htop, and then I was able to restart it, and I think everthing is back to normal. Running as me, not root. But I've no idea if its running as designed. Can this be looked at? Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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Has systemd broken Debian this time?
by Thierry de Coulon 16 Jul '19

16 Jul '19

So, I decided to try Debian 10. The install was uneventful. Fun started when I wanted to "remove" systemd, using the recipe given here before: install install sysv-rc and sysvinit-core. It worked but... it removed network-manager and lightdm (and others I did not have time to write down). AT the next reboot there is a looooong wait at: starting system message : dbus, then all I get is a command line login. I log and there is another delay before getting a prompt. Network in unreachable and I can hardly install without it :(( I had installed with xfce, I can try with some other DE. Or install TDE and hope removing systemd won't wreck everything beyond repair... Anyone got Buster running without systemd? Otherwise I'll wait for Devuan to release its Buster equivalent. Thierry

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to adjust the brightness of the screen
by andre_debian＠numericable.fr 16 Jul '19

16 Jul '19

Hello, On my laptop computer , the keys F11 and F12, adjusts the brightness of the screen. But on Debian-Stretch with trinity, these two keys do nothing. Before I could do that with "Configure your Desktop" and "Configure tdepowersave" with a scale from 0 to 100%. But now, it's gone. Any Idea to do that with Trinity or with F11 and F12 ? Best regards, André

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Re: Can status column be made to contain only ii?
by Mike Bird 15 Jul '19

15 Jul '19

On Sun July 14 2019 19:21:06 Felix Miata wrote: > Is it normal for non-iis not to be reduced to 0? How to get rid of the > numerous rcs? dpkg --purge ...

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Buster+PSB screen flashes like crazy
by Mike Bird 14 Jul '19

14 Jul '19

Just upgraded my laptop from Stretch+R14 to Buster+PSB, after several successful test VPS upgrades. After logging in screen flashes like crazy and .xsession-errors mostly repeats (with different resource ids): X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3 Major opcode: 3 Minor opcode: 0 Resource id: 0x390a155 Also seeing a few of these: Error: BadAccess (attempt to access private resource denied) 10 Major opcode: 2 Minor opcode: 0 Resource id: 0x180001c And an occasional: unix_connect: can't connect to server (unix:/tmp/ksocket-mgb/bravo.y.n-262a-51c100e0) [artsd] There are already artsd objects registered, looking if they are active... [artsd] ... cleaned 5 unused mcop global references. However login screen is fine and I can login in Failsafe mode and then run firefox and kmail from konsole without problems. Any suggestions or anything I can do to help diagnose/debug problem? TIA, --Mike

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PDF crash issue
by Pisini, John 13 Jul '19

13 Jul '19

It looks like there is a regression in the prerelease R14.0.7 whenever I double click a PDF file in Konqueror it crashes saying nspluginviewer caused the signal 11. If I right click and do open with Kpdf it opens fine. [image: image.png]

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Re: Re: [trinity-users] Re: [trinity-devel] Re: Re: amarok and missing mp4v2 in Buster
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 11 Jul '19

11 Jul '19

> > There was a lengthy discussion on the openSuSE list about Amarok and > > specifically whether a "better alternatives exist.". There were none found > > that provided the traditional features or behavior of Amarok > I switched from using Windows to Linux some 15 years ago. Amarok was the single primary reason for > this move. I was a student spending most of my day luistening to music and no Windows (nor > Linux!) application even came close to offering the features that Amarok had. 15 years later I am > still relying on Amarok on a daily basis, even though many of the features it offered in the past > no longer work due to bitrot (e.g. fetching album covers from Amazon or lyrics from various > sites). Saying that it would be sad to see it go would be a huge understatement. > > Janek > --- I agree with Janek (hey Janek). Amarok may be out of date but that doesn't mean it should be tossed into the rubbish heap. That kind of thinking is what lead to kde4. Perhaps, one day, someone will pick it up and update it. Till then, it's just fine. I don't use the fetch over or lyrics. I do it on me own. Cheers to all, Kate

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Whither 14.0.6?
by Mike Bird 11 Jul '19

11 Jul '19

I see 14.0.5 on Tim's server but it doesn't support Buster. I see 14.0.7 PSB on Slávek's server but there are problems with multiple displays and the churn rate is too high for our production use. I see another place which may have 14.0.6 but is restricted to developers only and which I'm not specifying here because of a possible security issue. I can't find 14.0.6 stable, other than some Ubuntu CD images. Whither 14.0.6 stable repository? TIA, --Mike

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pulldown menu location
by Gene Heskett 11 Jul '19

11 Jul '19

Greetings all; A wild keypress a couple months ago transferred the pulldown menu's that I am used to occupying the top line of a terminal border, to a white line across the top of the screen. It now has the pulldowns of any app that has pulldowns which has the mouse focus. IOW moved from the top of kmails window, to the top of the workspace window. Blank if the item with mouse focus, has no pulldowns. I can't get used to that and I'd like to put it back. What item in the tde control menu controls that? I've spent quite a bit of time wandering around in the TDE control menu's without finding it. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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Upgrading to Debian Buster
by Jan Stolarek 11 Jul '19

11 Jul '19

I'm wondering whether anyone managed to do a Debian Buster upgrade? Does TDE work with Buster? Are there important things to be aware of? Janek --- Politechnika Łódzka Lodz University of Technology Treść tej wiadomości zawiera informacje przeznaczone tylko dla adresata. Jeżeli nie jesteście Państwo jej adresatem, bądź otrzymaliście ją przez pomyłkę prosimy o powiadomienie o tym nadawcy oraz trwałe jej usunięcie. This email contains information intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient or if you have received this message in error, please notify the sender and delete it from your system.

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sysguard in panel?
by D. R. Evans 10 Jul '19

10 Jul '19

I know I once knew how to do this, but I've forgotten how, and can't find any documentation that tells me :-( How do I add a ksysguard sensor display to the panel? [The irony here is that I have two sensors already displayed in the panel, but I put them there so long ago that I don't recall how I did it, and can't figure out how to add a third sensor; I have it configured to show three displays, but the third just appears blank because I can't remember how to configure it to display a sensor.] Doc -- Web: http://enginehousebooks.com/drevans

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Upgrading to Debian Buster
by Jan Stolarek 09 Jul '19

09 Jul '19

I'm wondering whether anyone managed to do a Debian Buster upgrade? Does TDE work with Buster? Are there important things to be aware of? Janek --- Politechnika Łódzka Lodz University of Technology Treść tej wiadomości zawiera informacje przeznaczone tylko dla adresata. Jeżeli nie jesteście Państwo jej adresatem, bądź otrzymaliście ją przez pomyłkę prosimy o powiadomienie o tym nadawcy oraz trwałe jej usunięcie. This email contains information intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient or if you have received this message in error, please notify the sender and delete it from your system.

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Re: [trinity-users] Re: Is someone using the desktop as handsfree device?
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 06 Jul '19

06 Jul '19

> BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote: > > > I'm using a BT Insignia headphone set. Seems to be working fine. > > This is not exactly the same might be HFP or HSP. Most probably HSP. > Do you know which profile? > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- I can use both. Mostly just a headset profile but I can use it as a handsfree. Honestly the onboard mic doesn't work that well so I use either the webcam mic or the onboard laptop mic. Both work better. Kate

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Re: [trinity-users] Is someone using the desktop as handsfree device?
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 06 Jul '19

06 Jul '19

> Hi, > I was just wondering if someone here is using the TDE as handsfree device? > > I just did a PoC using dbus to do some test phone calls from and to TDE > connected via BT to the mobile. > > Has the time come to revive the kmobile stuff (well at least the GUI)? > > thanks and regards > I'm using a BT Insignia headphone set. Seems to be working fine. Kate

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What's your fav FS and why?
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 06 Jul '19

06 Jul '19

Hello me lovely drones. My last question regarding what kernel version to use was so enlightening (I thank everyone who replied), so educational that I've decided to ask another question. I'm currently using JFS. It's fast, reliable and easy to repair. On the rare occasion (once in 20 years) were I wasn't able to fix the fs (after a hard drive death rattle), I was able to mount it as a RO fs and recover the data with a simple copy and paste (later rsync and luckbackup). However jfs has it's limits for example it can't be resized, something I needed to a do a few times. Which meant backing up the drive, reformatting and restoring said backups. So... July's question... What's your fav FS and why? I thank everyone in advance and look forward to assimilating your brainz (ooh a SciFi / Zombie mix there). Kate AKA The Borg Queen. PS If you think about it, the Borg are sort of "Techno Zombies".

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Is someone using the desktop as handsfree device?
by deloptes 05 Jul '19

05 Jul '19

Hi, I was just wondering if someone here is using the TDE as handsfree device? I just did a PoC using dbus to do some test phone calls from and to TDE connected via BT to the mobile. Has the time come to revive the kmobile stuff (well at least the GUI)? thanks and regards

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"Switch off" monitor problem.
by Γιώργος Κωστόπουλος 03 Jul '19

03 Jul '19

Hi! :-) I just installed TDE on a computer with Devuan stable already on it (through Trinity repositories for Debian based systems). I know this is an "as-is" release and Devuan is NOT officially supported for this version. Having said that, I have a problem switching my monitor off through software. At Configure KDesktop -> Display -> Power Control -> "Enable display..." is activated, but none of these 3 modes works. Also, giving from konsole "xset dpms force off", also fails. All the above, they're just activating the screensaver. Keeping always in mind, that this Devuan version is NOT supported, does someone have any hint on the above issue? TIA!!! :-) Giorgos.

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Trinity for 32 / 64 bits Linux
by andre_debian＠numericable.fr 02 Jul '19

02 Jul '19

Hello, Sorry for this question of newbie : Has Trinity different packages for 32 and 64 bits Linux ? Because I need to change Debian in 64 bits when Buster will be released. Thanks, best regards, André

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problems configuring kicker
by dep 25 Jun '19

25 Jun '19

hi, everybody . . . i've encountered a weirdness as i try to arrange some icons on my kicker. i can right click and move them, but kicker behaves as if a new icon is being added instead of an old one being moved. the old one moves well enough, but everything on the right -- task list, spelling applet, calendar, gets squashed farther to the right. so i have blank space in the icon section and the applets and such are all squashed together. so, is there a configuration option that lets me drag everything back to where it should be? thanks very much. -- dep Some pictures: http://www.ipernity.com/doc/depscribe/album

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Re: [trinity-users] Tdewallet
by Dave Lers 22 Jun '19

22 Jun '19

phiebie(a)drei.at wrote: > The walletmanager does not start automatically, when TDE is started. The tray icon only shows up when you use Konqueror (or any TDE app?) to go to a URL requiring a password. The first visit should start a remember/wallet dialog. If it doesn't, the subsystem needs to be enabled (yours is). Nothing else needs to be configured. > Default Wallet=Peter I've never set this, the default is empty (kdewallet.kwl VS Peter.kwl?).

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changing gnome app font sizes from within tde
by dep 22 Jun '19

22 Jun '19

well, i've been looking at this for awhile now and i cannot find any way to change font sizes for menus and such for a gnome application while i'm running it under tde. there are gnome system defaults someplace, but i'd just as soon not install all of gnome just to be able to change the size of the letters in an application. is there an equivalent to kcontrol for the gtk side of things? -- dep Some pictures: http://www.ipernity.com/doc/depscribe/album

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network-manager-tde ?
by Dr. Nikolaus Klepp 22 Jun '19

22 Jun '19

Hi all! Now that wicd decided to not be able to set up my wifi any more, I thoght I might use network-manager + network-manager-tde. As I hve not had this thig running for ~ 5 years, I just tried it out. But I did not get far, the settings dialog did not allow me to save setting. So I ask: has anybody used network-manager-tde in recent times and knows if it works? Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ...

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Re: Re: [trinity-users] changing gnome app font sizes from within tde
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 21 Jun '19

21 Jun '19

> On 2019-06-20 16:51:51 dep wrote: > > well, i've been looking at this for awhile now and i cannot find any way to > > change font sizes for menus and such for a gnome application while i'm > > running it under tde. there are gnome system defaults someplace, but i'd > > just as soon not install all of gnome just to be able to change the size > > of the letters in an application. is there an equivalent to kcontrol for > > the gtk side of things? > > There are a number of Gnome tools that can affect this, depending on which > version of Gnome the application is written for: > GTK3+: > gnome-tweak-tool > gnome-control-center > gnome-shell-extension-prefs > > GTK2(?) > gconf-editor > > I think what you need is either gconf-editor or gnome-tweak-tool, which are > likely not installed. > > Leslie > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- Excellent! Thank you very much. Going to install and play about for a while now lol. Kate >

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Re: [trinity-users] changing gnome app font sizes from within tde
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 20 Jun '19

20 Jun '19

> well, i've been looking at this for awhile now and i cannot find any way to= > =20 > change font sizes for menus and such for a gnome application while i'm=20 > running it under tde. there are gnome system defaults someplace, but i'd=20 > just as soon not install all of gnome just to be able to change the size=20 > of the letters in an application. is there an equivalent to kcontrol for=20 > the gtk side of things? > --=20 > dep > > Some pictures: > http://www.ipernity.com/doc/depscribe/album > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- I don't think this will help but try tqtconfig qtconfig Perhaps there's a gtk version of these. You can also try using ~/.gtkrc* whatever it's called now (this is what I did). Additional stuff from DUH internet 1 Modify the file ~/.config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini according to your wishes for your specific application (i.e. font, font-size, theme, etc.). Save it under ~/.config/somewhereelse/gtk-3.0. Run the application with XDG_CONFIG_HOME=$HOME/.config/somewhereelse your-application https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/change-font-size-fo… Good luck Kate

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digikam is trying to kill me and my computer
by dep 20 Jun '19

20 Jun '19

greets, folks . . . for more than a decade i've gone happily along, making pictures for a living, sorting them with a gnome application called gthumb (which meshes nicely with the gimp) and being generally happy. then the gnome people did what gnome people do: they improved gthumb to the point where it's utterly useless. they removed menus and scrollbars and committed other atrocities. so i thought i'd bite the bullet and try digikam, which is in many respects too much, just too much. it tries to do things that i do not want done. it insists on running a full inventory of all my pictures all the time -- gthumb was good about not doing this until it was asked to -- and generally behaves as if i'm a 14-year-old who wants to keep track of his million selfies. grrr. but i can live with that and i feel confident that after spending some time with it i can turn off much of the stuff i don't like and make it into something potentially more useful than gthumb was when it was useful, about one major version ago. but there's a problem: when i use digikam-trinity (0.9.6) within a few minutes i can hear my computer's fans screaming and when i run top i see that it's consuming more than 100 percent. any ideas how i can fix this or at least troubleshoot it? tia. -- dep Some pictures: http://www.ipernity.com/doc/depscribe/album

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Re: Re: [trinity-users] digikam is trying to kill me and my computer
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 20 Jun '19

20 Jun '19

> On Thursday 20 June 2019 11:05:12 am Thierry de Coulon wrote: > > On Thursday 20 June 2019 17.39:01 dep wrote: > > > as to the initial problem, i can tell (from having watched top) that as > > > soon as digikam-trinity is asked to do anything at all -- display a > > > picture, open an external program -- it jumps to 100 percent or above, > > > unless the external application is ShowFoto, in which case *each* of th= > em > > > is at 100 percent. > > > > IMHO there must be some other problem. I have been running digiKam on all > > my photos (several hundred GB by now) and I see no such behaviour (this on > > two different motherboards with different processors). > > Appologies if this is useless as I know nothing about gthumb or digikam, bu= > t=20 > based upon the name gthumb (eg thumbs...) have you looked at an app called= > =20 > Geeqie? I've used it for years and it does have a right click open in gimp. > > http://www.geeqie.org/ > > michael@local [~]# apt show geeqie > Package: geeqie > Priority: optional > Section: universe/graphics > Installed-Size: 1,355 kB > Maintainer: Ubuntu Developers <ubuntu-devel-discuss(a)lists.ubuntu.com> > Original-Maintainer: Michal =C4=8Ciha=C5=99 <nijel(a)debian.org> > Version: 1:1.1-8 > Replaces: gqview > Depends: libc6 (>=3D 2.14), libexiv2-12, libgcc1 (>=3D 1:4.1.1),=20 > libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 (>=3D 2.22.0), libglib2.0-0 (>=3D 2.35.9), libgtk2.0-0 (= > >=3D=20 > 2.20.0), libjpeg8 (>=3D 8c), liblcms1 (>=3D 1.15-1), liblircclient0,=20 > libpango-1.0-0 (>=3D 1.14.0), libstdc++6 (>=3D 4.6), libtiff5 (>=3D 4.0.3),= > =20 > geeqie-common (=3D 1:1.1-8) > Recommends: exiftran, exiv2, ufraw-batch, zenity, imagemagick, librsvg2-com= > mon > Suggests: gimp, xpaint, geeqie-dbg, libjpeg-progs, ufraw > Breaks: gqview (<< 1:1.0~beta2-3) > Download-Size: 518 kB > Homepage: http://geeqie.sourceforge.net/ > Bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug > Origin: Ubuntu > APT-Manual-Installed: yes > APT-Sources: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty/universe amd64=20 > Packages > Description: image viewer using GTK+ > Geeqie is a browser for graphics files offering single click viewing of > your graphics files. It includes thumbnail view, zoom, filtering > features and external editor support. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- Geeqie is cool thanks. I'm going to play with it for a while. Kate

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Tdewallet
by phiebie＠drei.at 20 Jun '19

20 Jun '19

Debian Buster uptodate and with systemd. tdewalletmanager-trinity_4%3a14.0.7~pre8-0debian10.0.0+4~a The walletmanager does not start automatically, when TDE is started. Starting it manually with [tdewalletmanager --tdewalletd] yields an icon in the taskbar, the wallets however never get opened not to speak of, that they stay completely empty. The tdewalletrc contains: [ ] [Wallet] Close When Idle=false Close on Screensaver=false Default Wallet=Peter Enabled=true First Use=false Idle Timeout=10 Launch Manager=true Leave Manager Open=false Leave Open=false Prompt on Open=true Use One Wallet=true [ ] Where should I look for a misconfiguration or wrong/insufficient permissions? Tks and regards.

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kmail crashing now unusable
by Gene Heskett 20 Jun '19

20 Jun '19

Greetings; Over the last several days, kmail has gotten so unstable its not usable. Now tdewallet has also died, I have submitted 20+ crash reports, no reply, and I've no clue if it will even send this message. How about some help or an acnowlegement of the problem. I've rebooted, even re-installed all of kmail to no avail. I've also run memtest about 3 full cycles, no errors. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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net_applet
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 19 Jun '19

19 Jun '19

Hi people I no longer have net_applet access as user. This happened after a few updates. I'm guess it's a perm problem. Any ideas where to look? Thanks Kate

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here's what i'm talking about
by dep 19 Jun '19

19 Jun '19

i've made the picture dinky as i can while having it big enough to see. as you can tell, everything to the right -- taskbar, icons of running applications -- has gotten squashed. before i moved the icons on the left, simply rearranging them, everything was distributed nicely across the bottom of the screen. i do not know if having a black background is hiding some handle i can use to stretch stuff out, but if it is i cannot find anything about it. and every time i moved an icon to be in a grouping of other similar applications, the stuff on the right got squashed further, though no new icons were being added to kicker. nor can i find a configuration file i can screw around with. anybody know how i can fix this? dep Some pictures: http://www.ipernity.com/doc/depscribe/album

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Re: [trinity-users] problems configuring kicker
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 18 Jun '19

18 Jun '19

> hi, everybody . . . > > i've encountered a weirdness as i try to arrange some icons on my kicker. i= > =20 > can right click and move them, but kicker behaves as if a new icon is=20 > being added instead of an old one being moved. the old one moves well=20 > enough, but everything on the right -- task list, spelling applet,=20 > calendar, gets squashed farther to the right. so i have blank space in the= > =20 > icon section and the applets and such are all squashed together. > > so, is there a configuration option that lets me drag everything back to=20 > where it should be? > > thanks very much. > --=20 > dep > > Some pictures: > http://www.ipernity.com/doc/depscribe/album > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- I've encountered this as well. I usually just relock kicker and start again. If that doesn't work I log in again, that usually fixes it. I suspect small gnomes are living in my computers. Kate

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About a Kernel
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 17 Jun '19

17 Jun '19

HI I would like everyone's opinion on this. I'm trying figure out the benefits of either staying with the LTS kernel or with the lastest kernel. The machines are every day use and stability is important. Am I tossing away any benefits, of the latest kernel, if I use the 4.8x/9x kernel. Or do the benefits of the 5.1x kernel out weigh any instability? I'd like all schools of thought. Thanks in advance, Kate

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Re: Re: [trinity-users] About a Kernel
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 17 Jun '19

17 Jun '19

> On 06/13/2019 02:56 AM, BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote: > > HI > >=20 > > I would like everyone's opinion on this. > >=20 > > I'm trying figure out the benefits of either staying with the LTS kerne= > l or=20 > > with the lastest kernel. The machines are every day use and stability i= > s=20 > > important.=20 > >=20 > > Am I tossing away any benefits, of the latest kernel, if I use the 4.8x= > /9x=20 > > kernel. Or do the benefits of the 5.1x kernel out weigh any instability= > ?=20 > >=20 > > I'd like all schools of thought. > >=20 > > Thanks in advance, > >=20 > > Kate > > Kate, > > Unless you have super-new bleeding-edge hardware that needs a new featu= > re > added in 5.1 that is not available in previous versions -- then 5.1 provi= > des > absolutely no benefit. Any tweak that 5.1 provided to help with Spectre > performance mitigation, etc.. will likely be backported and in a LTS kern= > el. > > I have Arch (that always runs the current upstream version of the kerne= > l, > 5.1.9 currently), and Arch also provides an LTS kernel using 4.19. I have= > a > SuSE leap 42.3 install running the 4.4 kernel, SuSE leap 15.0/15.1 instal= > ls > with the 4.12 version, I have a Pi running Debian/jessie with the 4.9 ARM > kernel, and from a general computing/feature/functionality standpoint, it > makes no difference. > > Now if you have bleeding-edge hardware that is only supported in the la= > test > greatest kernel -- then yes, there is a difference, otherwise you won't k= > now > the difference. > > HTH > > --=20 > David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks David, This is my thinking as well. I have no real bleeding edge tech, I tend to stay away from it. Just wanted to challenge me decision , in case I was wrong. Kate

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sorry, on t-bird know nothing about running current version on imap
by Gene Heskett 17 Jun '19

17 Jun '19

First, I haven't figured out how to get t-bird to quote, or even to reply to a list posting, so this is all by had, I can't even get copy/paste to work. Dr Klepp asked which system: This is the same old asus box, in the house that ran wheezy for years, but now has an uptodate stretch amd64 install. At least I think its uptodate, they've made it almost impossible to run synaptic now, I ran, late yesterday about 3 full cycles of memtest, no errors. The main problems withkmail seem to be related to index files getting out of whack and I have restored it by stopping kmail, deleting the index files for the folder thats crashing, and restarting kmail --sync. Leave it alone for an hour or so and it will rebuild the index files again. But its in trouble again if I delete or move a file to the spam folder. And running it from a shell, to get that debugging output, when did kmail become dependent on N-M, as pasted from tht shell: ene@coyote:~$ kmail --sync [TDE NM Backend ERROR] [/build/buildd/tdelibs-trinity-14.0.6/tdecore/tdehw/networkbackends/network-manager/network-manager.cpp:1165] org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freedesktop.NetworkManager was not provided by any .service files [TDE NM Backend ERROR] [/build/buildd/tdelibs-trinity-14.0.6/tdecore/tdehw/networkbackends/network-manager/network-manager.cpp:1165] org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freedesktop.NetworkManager was not provided by any .service files [TDE NM Backend ERROR] [/build/buildd/tdelibs-trinity-14.0.6/tdecore/tdehw/networkbackends/network-manager/network-manager.cpp:1687] org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freedesktop.NetworkManager was not provided by any .service files kmail: WARNING: readFolderIds(): Found serial number zero at index 38 in folder /home/gene/Mail/.briarpatch.index.ids ASSERT: "msn != 0" in /build/buildd/tdepim-trinity-14.0.6/kmail/kmmsgdict.cpp (468) kmail: WARNING: writeFolderIds(): Serial number of message at index 0 is zero in folder coco kmail: WARNING: writeFolderIds(): Serial number of message at index 0 is zero in folder coco gene@coyote:~$ WeaverThreadLogger: thread (ID: 1) suspended. WeaverThreadLogger: thread (ID: 2) suspended. WeaverThreadLogger: thread (ID: 3) suspended. WeaverThreadLogger: thread (ID: 4) suspended. kmail: WARNING: Attempt to reference invalid serial number 15648 kmail: kmail: WARNING: Attempt to reference invalid serial number 15649 kmail: *** KMail got signal 11 (Crashing) [kcrash] TDECrash: Application 'kmail' crashing... Thats one session of kmail, lasted maybe 10 seconds before I clicked on something and crashed it again. As you can see, its fussing about the coco list folder, which is the parent of around 17 subfolders named ack the year of each ones messages. Starting year is 2002, goes on to 2018 with the parent folder now containing the 2019 messages. If kmail survives the year, those will get moved to a 2019 folder. If it survives, its being a pita and I am just now learning how to use both t-bird and imap. Do you have any ideas? I'm all ears. Thanks Nik.

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RPi + TDE + 7i90HD
by Dr. Nikolaus Klepp 13 Jun '19

13 Jun '19

Hi Gene! (This is not directly a TDE question, so it might be of no interest to a lot of readers, but anyway ...) If I recall correctly, you have mentioned somewhere that you have a RPi + TDE + 7i90HD running. Yesterday a 7i960HD ended up on my desk. Now I want to build a new CNC with RPi + TDE + 7i90HD, but I am stuck at how to flash the correct firmware to the card. I understand that I need mesaflash to flash 7i90_spi_svst4_8.bit (http://linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/html/man/man9/hm2_rpspi.9.html) from a pc via what? Centronics cable? Do you have a link to the needed cables? And maybe a working linuxcnc configuration? Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ...

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Re: Re: [trinity-users] About a Kernel
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 13 Jun '19

13 Jun '19

> On Thursday 13 June 2019 03:04:44 am Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > > Anno domini 2019 Thu, 13 Jun 03:56:13 -0400 > > > > BorgLabs - Kate Draven scripsit: > > > HI > > > > > > I would like everyone's opinion on this. > > > > > > I'm trying figure out the benefits of either staying with the LTS kernel > > > or with the lastest kernel. The machines are every day use and stability > > > is important. > > > > > > Am I tossing away any benefits, of the latest kernel, if I use the > > > 4.8x/9x kernel. Or do the benefits of the 5.1x kernel out weigh any > > > instability? > > > > > > I'd like all schools of thought. > > > > Just my 2=A2: If you are not running into any issue with the old/stable > > kernel, why change? Is somthing in 5.XX, that you miss now? You might get > > bitten by something like the thinkpad_acpi-spaming-dmesg-issue as happened > > to me. Is the 5.XX packaged with your distribution? If not, then I would > > not do it (well, I maybe would on my testmachine, but not on something > > that's not in my instant reach). > > > > Nik > > I agree with Nik, unless there is some burning reason I need the latest and= > =20 > greatest (5.x), then for anything resembling 'production' use, I stick with= > a=20 > proven LTS. I consider whatever I run my email on as 'production' use, as = > it=20 > has all my business correspondence on it... > > On the other hand, if you can legitimately lose everything and have the tim= > e=20 > to restore backups, then it is fun to be running the latest and greatest... > > Best Kate, > Michael > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- Thank you Michael, The logic is sound. Again something I've leaned toward but I wanted to make sure I wasn't making a mistake. Again, the beauty of the community, Kate

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My own site can't be accessed
by Thierry de Coulon 13 Jun '19

13 Jun '19

Hello all, It's not a Trinity problem (although it happens in kmail), but as I know there are some experienced people on this list, maybe someone can give me a hint. Since yesterday I can't connect kmail to my main mail server (the server of my own website). I can't send either, I can't connect to the website, I can't connect to it's cpanel, I can't ftp either. I *can* connect to the internet, I get mail from another website, it's really only "my" website. I use spamdrain as spamfilter and spamdrain can access my mail. So does gmail. My handphone can read my mail over data from the very same pop3 server. The provider says from his point of vue everything is working. I've reset the modem and the router. It's not my machine as every machine on my local network has the problem. What, on my local network, could block access to only my website (the provider's site is accessible)? Firewall is activated but nothing has been changed yesterday. The fact that only *one* site is having problem makes me think the problem is at the hosting site, but... I'm really puzzled. Thierry

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