- tde-users - Trinity Desktop Environment

tde installation on pclinuxos
by Karsten Lahrs 03 Apr '15

03 Apr '15

hi folks, I just trie to install tde on pclos.... but I get error messages like: "Err http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net x86_64/noarch pkglist 404 Not Found" does anyone has an idea? my fault? or is there something missing? best regards, karsten Password: [root@localhost ~]# cat <<EOF >/etc/apt/sources.list.d/trinity.list > rpm http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity/rpm/pclinuxos/ > trinity-r14/RPMS $(uname -i) noarch > EOF [root@localhost ~]# apt-get update E: Malformed line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/trinity.list (dist) [root@localhost ~]# apt-get update Get:1 http://ftp.nluug.nl pclinuxos/64bit release [1288B] Ign http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net x86_64 release Fetched 1288B in 23s (55B/s) Hit http://ftp.nluug.nl pclinuxos/64bit/x86_64 pkglist Hit http://ftp.nluug.nl pclinuxos/64bit/x86_64 release Hit http://ftp.nluug.nl pclinuxos/64bit/kde pkglist Hit http://ftp.nluug.nl pclinuxos/64bit/kde release Hit http://ftp.nluug.nl pclinuxos/64bit/xfce4 pkglist Hit http://ftp.nluug.nl pclinuxos/64bit/xfce4 release Err http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net x86_64/noarch pkglist 404 Not Found Ign http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net x86_64/noarch release Failed to fetch http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity/rpm/pclinuxos/tr… 404 Not Found Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. [root@localhost ~]# apt-get install trinity-desktop Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done E: Couldn't find package trinity-desktop

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kiconedit
by Jonesy 03 Apr '15

03 Apr '15

Ubuntu 14.04 , TDE 14.0 - first install here w/Trusty and TDE 14. This is puzzling... $ kiconedit The program 'kiconedit' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install kiconedit Well, I know if I do _that_, I'll end up with all of KDE 4. (I was bitten by something similar to that once on Ub 10.04 and TDE 13) So, $ sudo apt-get install kiconedit-trinity Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done kiconedit-trinity is already the newest version. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Huh? Maybe: $ kiconedit-trinity kiconedit-trinity: command not found So, I poke around in the TDE Menu and find it as TDEIconEdit. So, in fact, the CLI /bin name is `tdeiconedit`. How many more 'surprises' are there like that in TDE 14 versus TDE 13? And, how is a neophyte linux user (which my First Wife is about to become) suppose to know how to conqueror (or, is it TDEKonqueror?) such problems as they arise? Ok, ok ... so it was really just a rant. :-) Jonesy -- Marvin L Jones | Marvin | W3DHJ | linux Pueblo, Colorado | @ | Jonesy | FreeBSD __ 38.238N 104.547W | jonz.net | DM78rf | OS/2 SK

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kmail-trinity cannot be installed
by andre_debian＠numericable.fr 02 Apr '15

02 Apr '15

Hello, On a Jessie-Debian, last version of Trinity, the package "kmail-trinity" cannot be installed : "a lot of librairies are uninstallable" : Is it au bug ? (I use "synaptic" or aptitude install kmail-trinity) I see on the trinity web site, that the package "kmail-trinity.deb" doesn't exist. Thanks for your answer. André

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Kcalc-trinity not starting.
by Roel Wagenaar 02 Apr '15

02 Apr '15

L.S. After upgrading my Debian desktop from wheezy to jessie, and trinity to r14.0.0, Kxalc-trinity no longer starts properly. From the commandline it looks like this: roel@roel-dt1:~$ kcalc kcalc: error while loading shared libraries: libtdeinit_kcalc.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory roel@roel-dt1:~$ dpkg -S libtdeinit_kcalc.so kcalc-trinity: /opt/trinity/lib/libtdeinit_kcalc.so roel@roel-dt1:~$ ls -ahl /opt/trinity/lib/libtdeinit_kcalc.so -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 452K dec 4 07:03 /opt/trinity/lib/libtdeinit_kcalc.so It looks like Kcalc is searching in the wrong place for its library. Is this a known problem? -- Roel Wagenaar, Linux-User #469851 with the Linux Counter; http://linuxcounter.net/ Antw.: Omdat het de volgorde verstoord waarin mensen tekst lezen. Vraag: Waarom is top-posting een slechte gewoonte? Antw.: Top-posting. Vraag: Wat is het meest ergerlijke in e-mail? Be nice to your kids. They'll choose your nursing home.

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Repo not reachable
by Roel Wagenaar 31 Mar '15

31 Mar '15

L.S. In the proces of upgradeing my desktop from trinity v3.5.13 to r14.0.0, I am confronted with a unreachable mirror. Small screenshot attached. -- Roel Wagenaar, Linux-User #469851 with the Linux Counter; http://linuxcounter.net/ Antw.: Omdat het de volgorde verstoord waarin mensen tekst lezen. Vraag: Waarom is top-posting een slechte gewoonte? Antw.: Top-posting. Vraag: Wat is het meest ergerlijke in e-mail? Time is the best teacher; unfortunately it kills all its students!

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Broken Packages
by Baron 31 Mar '15

31 Mar '15

Hello all, Synaptic complains that I have three broken packages ! How do I identify them, and what do I need to do to fix them. Running Debian Jessie rc2. -- Best Regards: Baron

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TDE installed, LXDE not installed. LXDE launches. TDE will not launch. ?????
by Lisi Reisz 30 Mar '15

30 Mar '15

Help! I got myself in a mess after updating. The usual, reverting to lightdm and LXDE. Which mess I made worse. Well, I couldn't really see what I was doing. So I purged lightdm. No better. So I purged LXDE. No better. So I purged then installed TDE. aptitude purge tde-trinity aptitude install tde-trinity (The second as per https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Debian_Trinity_Repository_Installation_Inst… ) Nothing much happened. Only one package was touched. <aptitude show> says that **LXDE is not installed** and that TDE is installed. It says that lightdm is not installed. It says that tdm-trinity is installed. But when I boot up it is LXDE that launches, bypassing any dm. Yes, I know. That sounds totally mad. But I have repeatedly checked. I am flummoxed. Reporting real error messages is terribly difficult because I haven't got LXDE set up so that I can see it well, and the virtual terminals are impossible. Wiping and reinstalling would be the easiest thing to do, and also the quickest. But it would also be defeatist. Has anyone any other ideas? Thanks, Lisi

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Yahoo bounces.
by Will Hill 30 Mar '15

30 Mar '15

I keep getting bounce warnings from this list, apparently because of a problem with Yahoo. The bounce messages say, "host gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[74.125.70.26] said: 550-5.7.1 Unauthenticated email from yahoo.com is not accepted due to domain's 550-5.7.1 DMARC policy. Please contact administrator of yahoo.com domain if 550-5.7.1 this was a legitimate mail. Please visit 550-5.7.1 http://support.google.com/mail/answer/2451690 to learn about DMARC 550 5.7.1 initiative. ro6si3093371igb.36 - gsmtp (in reply to end of DATA command)"

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How does the mirror selection work?
by Michael Meier 30 Mar '15

30 Mar '15

How does ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net determine which mirror it redirects to? Reason behind my question is that I just tried to install V14 on a local debian machine, and 100% of all file-requests were redirected to tde-mirror.yosemite.net - which isn't even on the same continent. Our own mirror (ftp.fau.de) on the same AS would have been a much saner choice. Or at least a random mirror in Europe. This is not because the mirrors don't have the file. Random example: http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-r14.0.0/debian/p… always redirects both my university-machine and my home-dsl to tde-mirror.yosemite.net even though at least ftp.fau.de and bg1.mirror.trinitydesktop.org have the file in Europe. -- Michael Meier, HPC Services Friedrich-Alexander-Universitaet Erlangen-Nuernberg Regionales Rechenzentrum Erlangen Martensstrasse 1, 91058 Erlangen, Germany Tel.: +49 9131 85-28973, Fax: +49 9131 302941 michael.meier(a)fau.de www.hpc.rrze.fau.de

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PowerPC
by Roel Wagenaar 28 Mar '15

28 Mar '15

L.S. I have seen messages about a port to the powerpc platform, but can't find a link to a repository, I am in the process of waking up my old classic Imac. Right now the machine is beiing upgraded from Debian squeeze to wheezy, and the idea of putting bloatware like KDE4 on it does not feel right. Can anyone gif me a hint to where to lool? -- Roel Wagenaar, Linux-User #469851 with the Linux Counter; http://linuxcounter.net/ Antw.: Omdat het de volgorde verstoord waarin mensen tekst lezen. Vraag: Waarom is top-posting een slechte gewoonte? Antw.: Top-posting. Vraag: Wat is het meest ergerlijke in e-mail? Nothing is fool-proof to a sufficiently talented fool.

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Trinity Raspbian image for Raspberry Pi 2
by Alexandre 27 Mar '15

27 Mar '15

Hi all, Is there an image of Raspbian with TDE, built on top of a fully updated Raspbian system? I just received my Raspberry Pi 2 today, and I'm much more impressed by its performance than the original Raspberry Pi model B that I had. Thank you! -Alexandre

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"Commit history" not working
by iadest＠o2.pl 26 Mar '15

26 Mar '15

Hello Do you have the same problem with "Commit history" on TDE site? It displays last information dated 2015-03-10, while automated notification mailing list informs about newer commits. MCbx

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"Commit history" not working
by iadest＠o2.pl 26 Mar '15

26 Mar '15

Hello Do you have the same problem with "Commit history" on TDE site? It displays last information dated 2015-03-10, while automated notification mailing list informs about newer commits. MCbx

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Application crash
by Jonesy 24 Mar '15

24 Mar '15

My wife has finally decided to move off her XP system and over to linux. I am building a Ubuntu 14.04.02 TDE 14.0.0 machine for her use. She needs MoneyDance. http://infinitekind.com/moneydance http://infinitekind.com/download-moneydance-personal-finance-software It seemed to install ok. But, executing it the way the Desktop/moneydance.desktop shows it to be run: $ /bin/sh "/opt/Moneydance/Moneydance" [kcrash] TDECrash: Application 'output.logl-gtk-tqt-application' crashing... $ The crash seems to be in a TDE module. Right? Any subsequent attempt to run moneydance (without re-booting) causes a "flicker" of something (a task window?) over the desktop and a return to the prompt -- no error message. There is no other DE on this machine. How to start the solving of this problem? Thaks, Jonesy -- Marvin L Jones | Marvin | W3DHJ | linux Pueblo, Colorado | @ | Jonesy | FreeBSD __ 38.238N 104.547W | jonz.net | DM78rf | OS/2 SK

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New thread, next problem
by Gene Heskett 22 Mar '15

22 Mar '15

Greetings all; I had to reboot after 19+ days of uptime yesterdat, dinking around with a new hard drive that wasn't quite new. Anyway, since then I have only had the new mail beep from mail as entertainment, all web video is silent movies, and even Kscd is muted as in the volume control is greyed out. This has all worked without a trace of pulse even being installed. Here is my SWAG on it. This motherboard has 2 snd-hda-intel driven systems thru the MCP55 chipset on this M2N-SLI Deluxe asus board. My video card, is an eVga whose hdmi audio is not even bonded out, so while it signs in when an lcpci -vv is exec'd, the only noise its ever made is from the GeForce4 8400 GS's cooling fan, which is typically a bearing rattling annoyance. Its an eVga, what can I say, you buy aftermarket fans in 3 packs for them, and its on its 2nd of the 3 now. But I think somehow that the snd-hda-intel driver has linked itself to the no output stuff on this video card. Since the same snd-hda-intel driver runs both, how can I blacklist the worthless one? Can I edit something in udev.d to cause the product number 1302 to be ignored? That might be the ultimate hammer to drive tis nail it seems. Comments, audio guru's? Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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EasyLinux will review Trinity
by Thierry de Coulon 22 Mar '15

22 Mar '15

Hello everybody, I've just seen that the German magazine EasyLinux will publish a review of Trinity in its second 2015 issue (they say on 17.04.2015). http://www.easylinux.de/ for those who can read German. I'll try to get it. Thierry

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Problem when install g++ complier in jessie
by rolf 22 Mar '15

22 Mar '15

Hello developers, can someone explain, why aptitude will remove all (R14-) trinity packages from a jessie installation, when I would install the g++ compiler? What shall I do i.e. reinstall trinity after g++? Many thanks for your suggestions. Rolf

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Next problem
by Gene Heskett 21 Mar '15

21 Mar '15

I recall I had a heck of a time in the past with the older kde, in keeping the monitors/screensaver set so it might show a few minutes of the screensaver of choice, and to powerdown the monitor after a few minutes of screen saver. But it can't remember those settings more than a week or so, so I just put a couple entries in my crontab: */1 * * * * * xset +dpms */1 * * * * * xset dpms 300 0 600 To see if refreshing its memory hourly will effect a fix. But it sure would be nice if we didn't have to overpower it like that to keep it working. In TDE control center, its set 5,0,10 but that seems not to affect it, when it has failed the pheripherals/display/screensaver and display power management are all zeroed out or the checkboxes cleared. It appears is as if a zmalloc has gone astray? Under appearance/screensaver its set to start a slide show after 4 minutes. The memory of whatever it uses for the "elevator music for the eyeball" also seems transient, it switches to either a blank screen or some glx thing that burns up the cpu, again at random intervals that do not seem to correlate with the dpms settings failures. Info, bug action, your pick. ;-) Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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rebooted, no sound
by Gene Heskett 21 Mar '15

21 Mar '15

Greetings all; I went to town this afternoon an bought another HD to replace the one that went read-only about 6 weeks back, an event that started this whole dog & pony show. Got it home, had some din-din, and came in here to install it, where it is a 2T Toshiba sata6 drive. Pulled it out of the sack, reached for pocket knife to cut box seal. Already cut... Pull out foam tray, static bag has alo been ripped open. Practice 15 minute non-repeating profanity explosion, but bag still open. So, find out what I have, plug it into the sdb slot in the cage & boot up again. Issue smartctl -a -d ata /dev/sdb. Smartctl not found. Synaptic says smartmontools not installed, and I'd swear it was. Install again. Drive has about 90 hours on it, with 34 spinups, so by now its obvious somebody had it out & could not make it work & returned it. So. still curious as to what the heck I have, its now doing a -t=long and won't be done for a couple hours. But I now have no sound, and the usual culprits say it is not muted. I've not had to battle with sound in 3 or 4 years, so ATM I have no clue where to start. So use my fingers and perhaps aplay or alias to see where its broken. And attempt to do something with it in TCC, results on the save progress bar repeating infinitely till a ctl+c is issued. So, whats next? One could say that with no sound, I am all ears. :) Thanks all. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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Google Chrome window opening behind KMail window when hyperlink is clicked
by Lisi Reisz 18 Mar '15

18 Mar '15

On my husband's computer the Google Chrome window opens behind the KMail window when a hyperlink is clicked. My husband finds this very annoying. Is there anything I can do to make the Chrome window open in front of the KMail window when a hyperlink is clicked? Wheezy, TDE 3.5.13.2, KMail 1.9.10, Google-Chrome 41.0.2272.89 I have googled, but apparently there used to be a bug where Chrome insisted on staying on top, and that was almost all I could find. They seem to have over-compensated. I did find one that was what I wanted, I think, but it was for Ubuntu and in Ubuntu-speak and I couldn't follow it. DE specific? Thanks. Lisi

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Sources.list for 14 for Wheezy
by Lisi Reisz 18 Mar '15

18 Mar '15

I am intending to upgrade to TDE 14 on Wheezy, and then upgrade Wheezy to Jessie when the dust has settled and I have had a bit of fun running 14 on Wheezy.. Is this the best source, with jessie changed to wheezy? (I like Slávek's repositories and keeping up with patches.) deb http://mirror.xcer.cz/trinity-sb jessie deps-r14 main-r14 I can't upgrade to Jessie first, because 10.5.13.2 is not available for Jessie. Thanks, Lisi

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Failed to install R14 on PCLOS
by Andy 18 Mar '15

18 Mar '15

I am using David Hare's excellent Exe but also wanted to try R14 on PCLinuxOS as I am a long-time fan of that distro. I found instructions to install at: https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/PCLinuxOSInstall I did wonder, could it really be that easy? Well, apparently not. Unfortunately, but not totally unexpected. I have found computers and computing to be an incredible time sink. :-) I received error messages ending with these: === Hit http://ftp.nluug.nl pclinuxos/32bit/xfce4 release Err http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net trinity-r14/RPMS/i386 pkglist 404 Not Found Ign http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net trinity-r14/RPMS/i386 release Hit http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net trinity-r14/RPMS/noarch pkglist Hit http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net trinity-r14/RPMS/noarch release Failed to fetch http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity/rpm/pclinuxos/tr… 404 Not Found Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done W: Release file did not contain checksum information for http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity/rpm/pclinuxos/tr… W: Release file did not contain checksum information for http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity/rpm/pclinuxos/tr… W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. [root@localhost andy]# === Any help appreciated. This is my first time attempting this so I am a complete novice; very complicated or technical info would be lost on me. I did visit the repo link listed in the installation instructions using Firefox, http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity/rpm/pclinuxos/ (which was redirected) and saw "pkglist.i586", etc., but nothing for i386. I'm not sure what "noarch" means, but that was also there, but no i386. Is that the problem or did I do something wrong? I attempted several times, but of course I did much the same thing each time so if I'm doing something wrong I just repeated it. Thanks for reading, Andy

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kcalc too stripped
by Gene Heskett 17 Mar '15

17 Mar '15

Greetings; I have been asked to crosscheck some address decoding on a proposed PDB design, and I have been useing the binary display of kcalc to do that sort of thing for a decade or more. Unfortunately, TDE has excised that display capability from kcalc. So, is there a replacement package that will do that? If not, can it be put back into kcalc? Thanks. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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Re: [trinity-users] Failed to install R14 on PCLOS
by Andy 17 Mar '15

17 Mar '15

On Tuesday 17 March 2015 03:52:37 pm François Andriot wrote: > > > > Perhaps apt-get cannot follow this redirection? I don't know, but it > > seems so. > > > > Would it be acceptable to manually change this as I did in changing i386 > > to i586? > > > > Best regards, > > > > Andy > > This is weird ... even when using Firefox, I can browse to this URL: > http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity/rpm/pclinuxos/tr >inity-r14/RPMS/ > > But, when going to this one, I get a 404 error: > http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity/rpm/pclinuxos/tr >inity-r14/RPMS/RPMS.i586/ > > Probably an issue with the URL redirector. > > Yes, you can edit your configuration file again, to change the URL and > use "yosemite" mirror directly. > > François François, Thanks again! I did edit the config file and this time all went well. I now have R14 on PCLinuxOS! (Just in case Alexandre decides not to go with R14. :-) No email or other yet on that partition, but I'll set that up soon. Many thanks, Andy

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Re: [trinity-users] Failed to install R14 on PCLOS
by Andy 17 Mar '15

17 Mar '15

> > Le 16/03/2015 16:26, Andy a écrit : > > > Is that the problem or did I do something wrong? I attempted several > > > times, but of course I did much the same thing each time so if I'm > > > doing something wrong I just repeated it. > > > > > > Thanks for reading, > > > > > > Andy > > > > Hello, try to manually update file : /etc/apt/sources.list.d/trinity.list > > If you have i386 there, write i586 instead. > > I will add links on the mirrors so that future users won't have to do so. > > > > François > > François, > > Thanks for the help! It worked... up to a point. Now I get a lot of 404 > error messages, just for the Trinity packages, such as: > > Failed to fetch > http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity/rpm/pclinuxos/tr >inity-r14/RPMS/RPMS.i586/trinity-kuser-14.0.0-1.pclos.opt.i586.rpm 404 Not > Found > Failed to fetch > http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity/rpm/pclinuxos/tr >inity-r14/RPMS/RPMS.i586/trinity-tdeadmin-14.0.0-1.pclos.opt.i586.rpm 404 > Not Found > > I followed the links in Firefox and saw that the packages are there. But I > had been redirected from: > http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity/rpm/pclinuxos/ > to http://tde-mirror.yosemite.net/trinity/trinity/rpm/pclinuxos/ > > Perhaps apt-get cannot follow this redirection? I don't know, but it seems > so. Ooops! Silly me, apt-get followed the redirection to find the package list. I guess; I know so little about this. It seems to me that it follows the path at least as far as the package list but then does not go far enough to find the packages. Maybe. I'll look into it some more. Andy

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Konqueror Web Archives
by Dave Lers 17 Mar '15

17 Mar '15

In the KDE3 Konqueror Tools menu there was an Archive Web Page tool (that creates a .war containing the html, images, etc.). It's referenced in the related TDE package description, but it's not in my TDE Koqueror Tools menu. Is there something I need to do to enable it? On a somewhat related topic (Konqueror and archives), .zip files in Konqueror have a right click Compress menu instead of an Extract menu.

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ImageMagick `display` problem
by Joesy 17 Mar '15

17 Mar '15

I am bringing up 2 brand spanking new desktops PCs with Ubuntu 14.04.2 and TDE 14.0.0 -- using the live CD from the Trinity web site. jonesy@nix6: $ display /opt/trinity/share/apps/amarok/images/amarok_rocks.jpg display.im6: color is not known to server `FOREGROUND': No such file or directory @ error/xwindow.c/XGetPixelPacket/3064. jonesy@nix6: $ A web search on "display.im6: color is not known to server" pulls up _only_ two references to the error message, and one of them is : From: Paul Cartwright <pbcartwright@...> Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 13:54:28 -0500 Subject: Imagemagick error ...at http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::5517 (!!!) which describes _my_ problem exactly. That was 1 1/2 years ago. Only I do not see that he ever got a reply, nor do I see any fix or work-around for the problem. If I shorten up the search for just "color is not known to server", I see a lot more hits for what seems to be the same problem. But, still, I see no fixes or work-arounds (yet). I use `display` A LOT in desktop objects and I really need this fixed or circumvented. I can't believe I'm the only one in the Trinity group to have this problem. Thank you, Jonesy -- Marvin L Jones | Marvin | W3DHJ | linux Pueblo, Colorado | @ | Jonesy | FreeBSD __ 38.238N 104.547W | jonz.net | DM78rf | OS/2 SK

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Kmails clock is off 2 hours since edst took effect
by Gene Heskett 15 Mar '15

15 Mar '15

Greetings all; This is the clock shown in the upper right corner of the message window. I have never had kmail display a clock before until installing TDE R14. Or is it? It was showing 0.08 when I sat down a minute ago, but the system time for the rest of the clocks was 2:08. But I just pulled this composer window down so I could see it again, and now its correct. Both are now showing 2:12 Was I seeing things? Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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Re: [trinity-users] TDE icon changes also effect xfce icons...
by Guy Parry 15 Mar '15

15 Mar '15

At 01:43 PM 15/03/2015 -0500, you wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA224 > Hello, I just installed v14.0 on Mint 16, but irritatingly if I rename icons under Trinity I find it has screwed around with my icons if I then log into xfce. Is this because the two desktop environments share a config file somewhere? I've found this recent habit of DE's to 'bleed' across to one another quite annoying. Can I separate the two completely by creating two files dealing with icon properties, then direct each DE to use its own particular one? > >Can you describe the problem in further detail? For instance, what >exactly do you mean by "rename icons under Trinity"? >Many users are not aware of this, but there is a cross-desktop standard >that applies to almost all desktops called the XDG specification. In a >nutshell it specifies how various desktops should handle common elements >such as desktop shortcuts, icons, etc. This standardisation is what >prevents a user from having to create, for example, completely separate >desktop shortcuts for each desktop environment they use. A side effect of >this standardisation is that the various desktops are somewhat bound >together such that changing icons, desktop shortcuts, etc. in one desktop >may change the others as well. >If you can provide more information on what you are seeing and what you >want to see we may be able to help. >Tim Dear Tim, The icons under TDE are labelled things like 'Firefox Web Browser', or simply 'sigil' or 'calibre'. When I rename them to the format I want - 'Firefox 24.0' or 'Sigil 0.72' - and then log out and switch over to xfce my Firefox icon (for instance) is now called 'Firefox 24.0.desktop' and the icon has also changed. This .desktop icon is unlaunchable and uneditable. The only thing to do is delete it and re-create the Firefox launcher - I just run into the menu and right-click|add to desktop, then correct it to what I want. 'Preventing' a user from having to create completely separate desktop shortcuts is 1984 double-speak. The whole idea of having multiple DE's is to HAVE separate shortcuts so each desktop can be unique. Being 'prevented' from doing so runs counter to the linux philosophy imho. Might as well be using Windoze or that other OS named after a pome fruit(!) I hope I'm not the only one very annopyed by this little taste of big-brother telling me how to behave, when I'm perfectly capable of making up my mind on my own. Any advice people out there can provide to correct this new 'feature' will be gratefully received. >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) > >iFYEARELAAYFAlUF0ssACgkQLaxZSoRZrGHkoADgsY3DbFwxDwcWbQ6OYFqjIlmO >F+B6vUX1GDRF+ADfdRw7ypeoLloVqmUDxel4WRQ3j0V/IZGNR7SkNQ== >=SXGe >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net >For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net >Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ >Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting > > -- pargoo(a)netspace.net.au My Anthropomorphic Science Fiction: http://pargoo.customer.netspace.net.au/sciencefiction.html On the Commonwealth�s frontier, hundreds of light-years from Earth, war is brewing between humanity and the Golden Empire of the Arukai. Despotic Emperor Jekobar refuses every attempt to broker a peace; all-out conflict seems inevitable. After striking an orbital mine, Jason Standing�s needleship crashes on the low-tech preserve planet of Kanukar�s Retreat. But for his providential discovery by a young hunter he would surely have died unnoticed in the forest, badly injured, helpless and completely alone. Against all odds, the pair discover a mutual attraction which transcends species and the barrier of language. When Jason is abducted by Jekobar�s forces it appears nothing can stand in the way of the looming Armageddon other than Kansie�s vow to rescue Jason at any cost, driven to acts of desperation by instinct, loneliness, and the power of forbidden love. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

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TDE icon changes also effect xfce icons...
by Guy Parry 15 Mar '15

15 Mar '15

Hello, I just installed v14.0 on Mint 16, but irritatingly if I rename icons under Trinity I find it has screwed around with my icons if I then log into xfce. Is this because the two desktop environments share a config file somewhere? I've found this recent habit of DE's to 'bleed' across to one another quite annoying. Can I separate the two completely by creating two files dealing with icon properties, then direct each DE to use its own particular one? -- pargoo(a)netspace.net.au My Anthropomorphic Science Fiction: http://pargoo.customer.netspace.net.au/sciencefiction.html On the Commonwealth�s frontier, hundreds of light-years from Earth, war is brewing between humanity and the Golden Empire of the Arukai. Despotic Emperor Jekobar refuses every attempt to broker a peace; all-out conflict seems inevitable. After striking an orbital mine, Jason Standing�s needleship crashes on the low-tech preserve planet of Kanukar�s Retreat. But for his providential discovery by a young hunter he would surely have died unnoticed in the forest, badly injured, helpless and completely alone. Against all odds, the pair discover a mutual attraction which transcends species and the barrier of language. When Jason is abducted by Jekobar�s forces it appears nothing can stand in the way of the looming Armageddon other than Kansie�s vow to rescue Jason at any cost, driven to acts of desperation by instinct, loneliness, and the power of forbidden love. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

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New architecture in 'preliminary-stable-builds'
by Slávek Banko 15 Mar '15

15 Mar '15

Hi all, I would like to thank to Jean Milot, who gave me access to the PowerPC64le hardware. Thank to this I could include new builds for ppc64el architecture to my alternative apt source 'preliminary-stable-builds'. Builds for ppc64el are available for Ubuntu 14.04 (Trusty) and Debian 8.0 (Jessie). A complete list of distributions and platforms is now as follows: + Debian 6.0 (Squeeze) - amd64, i386, armel + Debian 7.x (Wheezy) - amd64, i386, armhf, armel, mips, powerpc + Debian 8.x (Jessie) - amd64, i386, armhf, armel, arm64, mips, ppc64el + Raspbian 7.x - armhf + Ubuntu 10.04 (Lucid) - amd64, i386 + Ubuntu 10.10 (Maverick) - amd64, i386 + Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty) - amd64, i386 + Ubuntu 11.10 (Oneiric) - amd64, i386 + Ubuntu 12.04 (Precise) - amd64, i386 + Ubuntu 12.10 (Quantal) - amd64, i386 + Ubuntu 13.04 (Raring) - amd64, i386 + Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy) - amd64, i386 + Ubuntu 14.04 (Trusty) - amd64, i386, powerpc, ppc64el + Ubuntu 14.10 (Utopic) - amd64, i386 + Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid) - amd64, i386 -- Slávek

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cmake couldn't find Qt3
by dollyclone＠hushmail.com 15 Mar '15

15 Mar '15

Hello, I have "FIND_PACKAGE( KDE3 REQUIRED )" in my CMakeLists.txt . In TDE 3.5.13 all goes well, but in r14 I am falling to error message processing cmake: CMake Error at /usr/share/cmake-3.0/Modules/FindPackageHandleStandardArgs.cmake:136 (message): Could NOT find Qt3 (missing: QT_QT_LIBRARY QT_INCLUDE_DIR)Call Stack (most recent call first): /usr/share/cmake-3.0/Modules/FindPackageHandleStandardArgs.cmake:343 (_FPHSA_FAILURE_MESSAGE) /usr/share/cmake-3.0/Modules/FindQt3.cmake:234 (FIND_PACKAGE_HANDLE_STANDARD_ARGS) /usr/share/cmake-3.0/Modules/FindKDE3.cmake:173 (find_package) CMakeLists.txt:81 (FIND_PACKAGE) Howto fix ?, Dolly

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systemtrayapplet.desktop and that annoying little '*'
by Philip Ashmore 14 Mar '15

14 Mar '15

Hi there. Thanks to the previous post re "Icons on task bar" I took a look at .trinity/share/apps/kickerrc, one more time to track down the source of that annoying little '*'. It's in the system tray, but I can't find the systemtrayapplet.desktop file to examine what app it belongs to, so I can remove it. It's the little orange circle between the calender icon and the network icon. Any hints? Philip Ashmore

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severe GNU emacs problem
by Uwe Brauer 13 Mar '15

13 Mar '15

Hi I am running Ubuntu 14.04 and installed trinity R14 on top of it I just compiled GNU emacs and tried to start it. it crashes with emacs Undefined color: "FOREGROUND" xemacs is fine. emacs works in Ubuntu. Any idea? this is a serious bug. thanks Uwe Brauer

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R14: add icon to planel
by Uwe Brauer 12 Mar '15

12 Mar '15

Hello till version R14 I was used to the following workflow: After the installation of a 3rd party software, for example xemacs21.5 I installed an icon in the desktop with a link to the application. I then moved the icon to the panel and voila it was included automatically. However this seems not to work in R14, what do I miss? thanks Uwe Brauer

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Icons on task bar
by Baron 11 Mar '15

11 Mar '15

Hi Guys, n Gals, Jessie, TDE 14, Just switched on tonight and all the icons on my task bar and system tray are missing ! Where are the settings for these hiding ? Thanks: -- Best Regards: Baron

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Where do I find the start up file(s)
by Lisi Reisz 11 Mar '15

11 Mar '15

Where do I find the start up file(s) in oder to edit them. Debian Wheezy and 3.10.13.2. I _have_ STFW, RTFM (see my other plea for help). Google has a passion for KDE4. Pity I don't share it. Thanks. Lisi

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Trying to reinstall
by Robert Peters 10 Mar '15

10 Mar '15

Hello, While trying yet again to get audio working I managed to clobber my TDE 14 setup. Want to reinstall from live CD (on USB stick). Tried the Ubuntu one; the installer didn't let me complete the partition setup. Tried the most recent Ubuntu nightly; can't even get to the GUI or installer program. I don't care much for what I've seen of PCLinuxOS. Maybe I can mess around with Debian/Exe again. But really, isn't there something I can use and recommend to others that just works???? (i.e., with functioning wifi and sound) -R

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Problem with fonts in KPDF
by Jan Stolarek 10 Mar '15

10 Mar '15

Hi all, I have a question about KPDF under Trinity 3.5.13.2, Debian wheezy. I have problems with fonts in PDFs built using LaTeX - see attached screenshot (I hope it makes it to the list). Notice how the upper curve of 'o' and 'e' is not visible. Same happens with lower curve of 's'. This is pretty annoying. Is there any way to fix this? On my other machine that still runs KDE3 this problem does not exist, so there should be a way of fixing this. Perhaps I should install some system-wide set of fonts? Janek --- Politechnika Łódzka Lodz University of Technology Treść tej wiadomości zawiera informacje przeznaczone tylko dla adresata. Jeżeli nie jesteście Państwo jej adresatem, bądź otrzymaliście ją przez pomyłkę prosimy o powiadomienie o tym nadawcy oraz trwałe jej usunięcie. This email contains information intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient or if you have received this message in error, please notify the sender and delete it from your system.

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Re: [trinity-users] next problem, konqueror's 75% crash rate when clicking on an http link in kmail
by Dave Lers 10 Mar '15

10 Mar '15

Timothy Pearson wrote: >> the only thing Konqueror cannot browse is resource hungry web sites. >> While I'd love to see that change, I'm not holding my breath. > As you've probably guessed fixing this is very hard. It would > require integrating a different browser engine (such as Webkit) into > a Konqueror plugin while retaining the functionality of the What about a Konqueror plugin for Firefox/Iceweasel? I can 'open in Iceweasel' from Konqueror, but not the other way around. Being able to extend the Iceweasel Application panel with file extensions/URL types that can be opened in a running Konqueror instance would be really nice. ...Editing mimeTypes.rdf looked promising, but it appears to be limited to base executables - '/opt/trinity/bin/konqueror' works (new instance), '/opt/trinity/bin/kfmclient openProfile webbrowsing' is ignored/won't show up as an option.

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Re: [trinity-users] next problem, konqueror's 75% crash rate when clicking on an http link in kmail
by Dave Lers 09 Mar '15

09 Mar '15

Gene Heskett wrote: >> I'll also have to plead that I didn't realize that the little box >> to the left, was in fact a search string entry point. > It would have been a bit more obvious had it been above the right > pane of the little window. The right pane only has a line of text until you start opening/selecting items in the list. Prepending that text with 'Search for/' (select a file type...) might make the functionality clearer. It sounds like you haven't discovered TDE's extensive help sections. Clicking the title bar ? mark and then the File Associations text entry field provides basic information. Clicking the Help button (bottom left), provides a lot more - foreground in the screenshot. It might also help if it was menu > Trinity Control Center, instead of menu > TCC > TCC to actually open the control center. I don't see any advantage to duping the control center menu in the main menu and it makes opening the control center harder/less obvious. Using the control center menu provides a third help option (> ?, < Help) via a side menu question mark icon.

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next problem, konqueror's 75% crash rate when clicking on an http link in kmail
by Gene Heskett 09 Mar '15

09 Mar '15

Lets face it, iceweasal is 10,000% more browser than konqueror. Where do I change this (TDE? IDK) default broswer to iceweasal when I click on a web link in a kmail incoming message? If it runs long enough, I can switch to iceweasal in its file pulldown, but 75% of the time I am looking at its crash report popup, which for the purposes of registering a bug report is worthless because the debug symbols are not compiled in. So the report it does file is basically konqueror crashed, no further details. Those I believe must get routed to /dev/null since not one of them over the last 5+ years has ever resulted in a reply (from anyone) asking for further details. Thanks folks. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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Getting stuck in LXDE after an update. solution
by Lisi Reisz 08 Mar '15

08 Mar '15

For the archives, and for anyone else who makes the same stupid mistake I did. I have my TV connected computer set to boot up without requiring a password. It is running Jessie and TDE14. I forgot, before I started an upgrade, to set tdm back to requiring a password. O.K. No-one but me could be so dumb, but still, for the archives: I ran an update -> upgrade - and forgot to reset the dm to tdm (instead of ldm) before rebooting. Yes, I can be dumb. When I rebooted after the upgrade, I was in ldm and LXDE. As far as I could see, ldm offered no choice of desktop. I managed to change back to tdm - but tdm wasn't asking me to log in, so wasn't giving me a chance to change to TDE. So there was I, stuck. In neither tdm nor ldm could I change back to TDE. I could have ldm, a login screen and no choice of session, or tdm and no login screen. Solution? A solution, anyway. # aptitude purge tdm-trinity && aptitude install tdm-trinity After the first half, it closed my xserver down, but gave me a virtual terminal login. So I logged in as root and repeated the command. (Up arrow worked.) Having found no tdm to purge, the first time round having obviously got that far when it closed the xserver down, it installed tdm. So, set dm to tdm. Cross fingers. # init 6 And there, large as life and twice as lovely is my login screen! So, all is well, and I am back in TDE. I haven't listed everything I tried nor everything I called myself. But hopefully anyone else who gets him or herself in as stupid a bind will find this, before going through an hour or two of frustration. Let's just hope that, unlike our institutions, I actually learn the lessons that have been learnt! Lisi

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Problem with icons after upgrade to R14
by iadest＠o2.pl 08 Mar '15

08 Mar '15

I've recently upgraded my Debian notebook from 3.5.13.2 to R14. I have a problem with icons in menu. I think there are 2 separate problems. First, some icons in menu appear blurred, especially launcher icon. They're not sharp as previous icons were, they look blurred or semi-transparent. The second problem is with icons in KDE Classic icon set - it looks like some icons are missing after upgrade. At least Graphics, Multimedia, Programming tools and Tools category icons look like they are taken from another theme. Here is menu from my old computer (in fact it's 3.5.13, not 13.2, but icons are OK): http://postimg.org/image/ichghc3w9/ Icons in Debian notebook after upgrade. Notice blurring in menu launcher icon: http://postimg.org/image/feepaby85/ Is it possible to disable icon semi-transparency? How to re-install classic icon set? MCbx

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TDE version of kmail question
by Gene Heskett 07 Mar '15

07 Mar '15

I have a bash script that can tell kmail, over the dbus, to go get the mail from the local /var/spool/mail/ after procmail has delivered it. Since switching t tde, that is failing and I've been for to make kmail check periodically. That command is preset in the script to: Cmd="/usr/bin/qdbus org.kde.kmail /KMail org.kde.kmail.kmail.checkMail" Since this is TDE, not KDE, is there something in the above line I need to edit to make it function with this TDE version? Thanks. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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Iceweasel
by Baron 06 Mar '15

06 Mar '15

Hi All, Debian Jessie, R14. I've noticed an odd thing. Having closed Iceweasel, it still seems to be running and taking 98% cpu according to KSysguard. I had noticed a slowdown in browsing for a few days now, but didn't realise why until last night. -- Best Regards: Baron

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knetworkmanager/network-manager-tde: icon
by Uwe Brauer 05 Mar '15

05 Mar '15

Hello I just realized that the planel icon of knetworkmanager/network-manager-tde: is changed from 3.5.13 to R14: instead of the globe it seems now as a sort of cabel. Any reason for this? thanks Uwe Brauer

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Help! No, really - I want help with the help function. ;-)
by Lisi Reisz 04 Mar '15

04 Mar '15

I an stuck in this circle: see attached What now? Lisi

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KPDF change dir in save as dialog
by Greg Madden 04 Mar '15

04 Mar '15

TDE R14, Debian Jessie I download & open a pdf file with kpdf from a vendor, happens automagically, kpdf is set as default app for pdf. I go to 'file>save as" , the save as dialog always starts at /tmp...then I have to navigate to the dir with saved pdf's...this is a deep dir structure...I would prefer to have 'save as' open the last used dir...or something..is this configurable? -- Peace, Greg

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kmix issue with mwheelevent in TDE
by westlake 03 Mar '15

03 Mar '15

hi tde fans! I notice there's the systemtray kmix applet which works quite well in TDE for managing sound volume but there's a little benign issue here with r14 on debian jessie. When I use the mousewheel over the kmix volume speaker in the system tray, the volume changes but when the kmix icon is clicked on to expand showing the vol indicator, the position of the vol indicator remains unaffected. not a top priority of course so I'm patient to see a fix on this.. thanks

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tde-kmail spell checker works but missing from tools menu???
by Gene Heskett 02 Mar '15

02 Mar '15

Greetings all; TDE r4, kmail-1.9.10. Just in th last 4 or 5 days, the spell checker in the tool pulldown menu has disappeared. It still works, hilighting the words it _thinks_ are miss-spelled, but the only way to fix it seems to be playing the 10,000 moneys writing MacBeth again. Any body know how to re-enable that spelling thing in the tools menu and make it work again? It did work, for a few days after I installed TDE, latest. but it left at about the same time it forgot 40 of the 70 or so filter rules. Thanks all. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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R14: where is the user administration
by Uwe Brauer 28 Feb '15

28 Feb '15

Hi I just installed R14 on Ubuntu 14.04 and everything went smoothly. Thanks to the team! However I opened the control center and I cannot find the user administration tool and am familiar with. Is this included any new package? Thanks Uwe Brauer

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Passwords
by Robert Peters 28 Feb '15

28 Feb '15

Was "Re: [trinity-users] R14: where is the user administration" A way to generate and remember passwords: use an algorithm. Start with a memorable sentence, for example: "Trinity Desktop is my #1 website" Replace parts of it to make a password: "TD14=m#1ws" where TD stands for the site's name, and 14 is the number of letters in it. So for Facebook you could use "FB8=m#1ws" Of course you would use a different phrase in which you could substitute more special characters. Now all you need is the website name to reconstruct the password. Robert

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kmails filters disappear
by Gene Heskett 28 Feb '15

28 Feb '15

Greetings; new sub to the list, had trinity installed for about a week. It solved a huge fonts problem I had with wheezy's kmail. However, it appears that everytime I add a new filter, an old one falls out of the list and quits working. Since I have about 60 folders, I can only setup "sort to folder" rules for about 24 or so before this "culling" seems to start. And the droppage does not effect the install presets, just the ones I've added, most of which were generated by the "filter on Subject/To:/From:" in the message pulldown. And then fine tuned for changes in [content] of the subject, and in the order of application. I don't know if its too small a buffer assignment for filters or what. I have 8Gb of memory in this amd64 (phenom) powered box, so memory, within reason, should not be a problem. Is this known? A fix in progress? 2nd kmail related question... Several previous versions of kmail, it has had a dbus port, by which I could have a 'new mail watcher' script send a message to kmail to have it go get that mail which had arrived in /var/spool/mail by way of a fetchmail/procmail/spamassassin/clamscan chain that has been running for several years here, unloading that duty from kmail. So all it has to do is go get that mail when it comes in. That script is now logging errors to the shell I started it in because the dbus target string doesn't exist. AMD64 bit 3.2.0 kernel running ATM. Thank you. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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clamscan etc log perms, can't keep logs
by Gene Heskett 27 Feb '15

27 Feb '15

The default script that runs clamscan over a goodly portion of the system on a daily basis is haveing cron send messages to /var/spool/mail/mail, so I changed perms on that file so kmail could fetch it from the local mail box and set kmail up to do that. I find I had about 125k worth of messages because the scripts I copied over from the old drive aren't quite compatible with this install. I have fought tooth and nail with the system and it blanket denial of my ability to read a log file unless I either play with the parent locations ownership and permissions, so much so that I create in my home dir, a log subdir so that all these utilities could both write a log file and I could read it. I am eventually going to have to create some logrotate entries to handle maintenance on these log files, but at least I can read them. Which is the preferred method of dealing with this, my way, or hacking up owners and permissions all over the /var/log tree? Thanks. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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cannot install R14 to openSUSE 13.2
by Felix Miata 24 Feb '15

24 Feb '15

https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/OpenSUSEInstall#For_OpenSUSE_13.2_.28R14.0.… says do this (after purging KDE3): rpm --import http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity/rpm/opensuse13.2… zypper ar -t YUM http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity/rpm/opensuse13.2… -i) trinity zypper ar -t YUM http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity/rpm/opensuse13.2… trinity-noarch Results: Line 1: curl: (22) The requested URL returned error: 404 Not found error: http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity/rpm/opensuse13.2… import read failed(2). Lines 2 & 3:. Specified local path does not exist or is not accesible Specified local path does not exist or is not accesible Ping ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net does work. I tried manual creation of *.repo in /etc/zypp/repos.d/ based on a working v13 installation to 64 bit on another machine. Zypper claims to refresh them (apparently valid), but anything I try to (32 bit P4 HT; uname -i = i386) install results in unmet deps. e.g. libtqt3.mt needed by trinity-tdm can't find libaudio.so.2; trinity-tdebase cant find libmad.so.0 needed by trinity-arts. How does one install to 32 bit openSUSE? -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/

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k3b-trinity and blu-ray
by dep 24 Feb '15

24 Feb '15

greetings, folks . . . i don't know if this is a bug or if i'm doing something wrong here. the plan was to burn my 20-gig mail directory to a blu-ray m-disc for archive purposes -- m-discs are supposed to last without degrading for 1000 years. in order to burn blu-ray, i understand that i need to use cdrecord, which is fine. so i got and installed it, but k3b-trinity says it can't find it. oddly, k3b from kde4x found it just fine, and it works. i prefer k3b-trinity. but i have no idea what i can do to make it find cdrecord. additionally, i'd guess that because cdrecord overwrote whatever was there before, i can't use k3b-trinity for anything anymore. is this a known issue? -- dep The shortest distance between you and playing great acoustic guitar: the great new instructional DVDs from Marjorie Thompson, available at www.MarjorieThompson.com

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Knode
by Baron 21 Feb '15

21 Feb '15

Hi All, I've got an odd problem. I've just installed Debian Jessie with TDE 14.0. For some reason, if I try to reply to a news (Usenet) posting using Knode, I get a pop up asking me to insert a valid email address in the Identity section. If I don't select any post then I get the expected new post window. I've deleted "knoderc" and recreated it, deleted all the groups and re-selected them without any change. I did use "apt install" to get knode since Jessie didn't come with it installed. Thanks for any help. -- Best Regards: Baron

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Theme/Style adding
by Nicolas Dobigeon 20 Feb '15

20 Feb '15

Hello TDE users, I would like to manualy install theme/style form KDE Looks (KDE3 themes) to my Debian/TDER14 notebook. But i didn't manage to find a way to install them. Can you help me ? What folders i have to create or put themes in ? Does KDE3 themes are compatible ? Thanks. Nicolas D.

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Re: [trinity-users] kpdf problems
by Michele Calgaro 20 Feb '15

20 Feb '15

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No pulseaudio sound
by Robert Peters 18 Feb '15

18 Feb '15

Hello, Using Synaptic I installed pulseaudio and pavucontrol. Running the latter in a terminal produces these messages: ** (pavucontrol:4086): WARNING **: Error retrieving accessibility bus address: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.a11y.Bus was not provided by any .service files /usr/bin/pulseaudio: symbol lookup error: /usr/bin/pulseaudio: undefined symbol: pa_dbus_connection_unref Running Skype in a terminal also produces the second line above. Skype and the Flash player do not play any sound. And the Control Centre shows no reference to pulseaudio. Any ideas on how to make it available? Robert

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Minimal installation of TDE
by Joe 14 Feb '15

14 Feb '15

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 When i used Debian, i could do a minimal install of KDE by 'aptitude install kde-plasma-desktop' Is there a similar command for installing a minimal TDE environment? Thanks, - -joegum - -- - ------------------ Joseph A. Gumbosky Piano Tuning & Repair Phone: 724.224.1327 Email: joegum(a)joegum.com Website: tinyurl.com/tunerjoe -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJU3vnHAAoJEFuynZGnEZo2/VMP/29Pvt98f/wbt70MRG4gOMjI iHLrCcKnU78qNsfxyAy25cn5eycDJKjk5Lxx+o5nw8m1msPs1UmFKbnTdwCy23Xr QyGyhDn1QLH0uMJtbdi0m4jdFXeUNvWVsLJzCrXGcVaO8B+lpHsVEhUtq2KKE74d aTHTgd0FI8gs+LCN0tDnu+zklv89vAVpKJCRU/i9nrQIsTSaxASwgBveGVY9PEBc 8OvokD7bIj5owCiXWBlNzM3acQOb6rZq0S3sWiFFaLgYD1EZc5dcxAcL3V9VbYZn XhuDciSM8CaH/i5j41A7XMDkZwr+JPI0RHK09j6ByJBX+RhWhFsU+RI654xq3miv 6eqcRkUeThiOYIHjjBVgProVavzy8AfTqGx0Jyh1RMThlAfjJqihTL1daWavlEeD ephMzcc88gARVLdq+m3JQf49MmG18l4UqGEAAFVpw2EKQXjOoBx/gRbbI++D8cZf ntrPI34aFdOcIT2B3ERY/uNcd6WVvguV6CpBkB6jZ0mmEcxWUatAbLYTc+iBjCD0 h7gLiAif33YoXhLTY6sjmRpITVPQXbID/v3/vqP4O5yeyJYTDTn/E9Kdj2aFi13g z95TF2O9JMcVOQCbhiakb5jJ4ticES8lzWbsOiSjxywPhyVTy0wC8vvgXZRrVpjD iF4N/ht9+HIrlXaxEC8m =BRfC -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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mouse over focus changed
by Greg Madden 14 Feb '15

14 Feb '15

I changed my sources to slaveks updates to R14. I am running Wheezy In Kontact, when my cursor moves over the icons in the navigation? area, email, contacts, calendar..etc, in the left pane..the focus has changed from clicking on the icon to focus app to auto changing the app..very irritating . Also in KPDF, similar behavior in the save as dialog, the file name changes as the cursor moves over file tree to select the proper folder...losing the file name in the process. Same for the -- Peace, Greg

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"keep above others" - how to undo this?
by Felmon Davis 11 Feb '15

11 Feb '15

somehow I clicked on 'keep above others' on one of my applications and I cannot find a way to undo it. I certainly don't want 'keep below others'! help? f. -- Felmon Davis Three o'clock in the afternoon is always just a little too late or a little too early for anything you want to do. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

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KMail mail check failure
by John Campbell 09 Feb '15

09 Feb '15

in the last 6-8 months I have been having occasional failure of mail check both interval and manual. The symptom is the bottom right progress bar shows constant movement with no percentage given and no new mail.Workaround is close kmail, reopen it go to Settings - Configure Mail - Accounts - Receiving - Modify - Apply (without editing anything) - OK and it downloads and will do so for 1~30 days and the same thing happens again. Doesn't matter which of 4 POP3 accounts I select to (not) modify - all then download Just open/close does not fix it nor TDE exit/new session or reboot. Machine normally runs 24/7 Has persisted through a complete machine replacement (with the same ~.trinity/share/apps/kmail/mail directory and filters This is with KMail 1.9.10 (enterprise35.0.20100827.1168748) (Using Trinity 3.5.13.2) on Debian 7 reported by synaptic as kmail-trinity 4.3.5.13.2-0debiian7.0.0+0. The same setup had been working fine for some months beforehand Any ideas ? Regards John Campbell

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trinity on FreeBSD 10.1
by baho-utot＠columbus.rr.com 08 Feb '15

08 Feb '15

Has anyone tried to build trinity for FreeBSD ? I am currently building a new system based on FreeBSD and I would like to attempt to build trinity. I would like to create ports build if I am successful with the build. I am studying the build from source instructions posted on the website. I believe that this will be a difficult one as it appears that trinity favors Linux. The following appears to be problem areas: Should be installed in /use/local/<whatever>. Scripts contained in the source files have !#/bin/bash. Do the scripts contain bash-ims? FreeBSD used the bourne shell not bash IE #!/bin/sh. FreeBSD uses clang instead of gcc. FreeBSD has dropped HAL in xorg. udev not supported. I am not intending to use linux compatibility ports, as I am looking to run this on the FreeBSD bare metal. Comments?

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Proposed sources.list entry for TDE on Jessie
by Lisi Reisz 08 Feb '15

08 Feb '15

Would the following be OK for my TDE entries in my sources.list in my proposed Jessie media computer install? The hashed out lines so that they can be brought in if there's a problem with the other repositories while I am installing. ;-) <quote> # deb http://depot-trinity.dotriver.eu/trinity-r14.0.0/debian jessie main # deb http://depot-trinity.dotriver.eu/trinity-builddeps-r14.0.0/debian jessie main deb http://mirror.ntmm.org/trinity/trinity-r14.0.0/debian jessie main deb-src http://mirror.ntmm.org/trinity/trinity-r14.0.0/debian jessie main deb http://mirror.ntmm.org/trinity/trinity-builddeps-r14.0.0/debian jessie main deb-src http://mirror.ntmm.org/trinity/trinity-builddeps-r14.0.0/debian jessie main deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/slavek-banko/axis/ubuntu jessie main </quote> If the answer is "no" or "well....." , then suggestions gratefully received. Thanks, Lisi

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KWrite in TDE14
by Lisi Reisz 06 Feb '15

06 Feb '15

What is KWrite called in TDE14? (From teh point of view of installing it.) I do hope that I am not going to be told that it has been abandoned. :-( Thanks, Lisi

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Audio tag editor
by Nicolas Dobigeon 06 Feb '15

06 Feb '15

Hello, I'm a "MusicBrainz Picard" user. It's an advanced audio tagger which can connect to a big DB on the web to tag your mp3. It's a very powerfull and strong software. You can detect songs and autotags them, select the tag version (v1+v2, only v2, only v3, utf8 data, AINSI data, etc ...). I stronlgy recommande it but am thinking about using a native tde mp3 tagger. Do you use an equivalent of my one ? What is the software you use ? Thanks for your feedback ;) Nicolas D.

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No sound on Debian_8 with TDE_R14
by Nicolas Dobigeon 05 Feb '15

05 Feb '15

Hello, I just tryed to install TDE R14 on my new notepad (Lenovo G50-70). All worked with the base desktop (Gnome) but when i installed an used TDE, it can't play any sound with ARTS. I don't know how to correct it. The sound card is working in other DE, the kernel module should be OK. I think there a config file to edit or something to do but i don't know what i should do. I request your help. I really want to use TDE. Thanks for your help. Nicolas D.

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rollback to r23 possible?
by kanenas＠hawaii.rr.com 04 Feb '15

04 Feb '15

how can one roll back to r13 in 64 bit debian wheezy? The "force" option in synaptic is not available. would "complete removal" of r14, then a switch to r13 repos and subsequent install work?

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gnome-keyring error message when accessing the printer
by Uwe Brauer 04 Feb '15

04 Feb '15

Hello One of my machines run Kubuntu 13.04 and I have trinity 3.5.13 installed. However when I try to print I obtain the following message (which I don't see on the Kubuntu 10.04 machine) lpq -Ppl2 WARNING: gnome-keyring:: couldn't connect to: /run/user/foobar/keyring-2h2aEf/pkcs11: No such file or directory pl2 is ready and printing Rank Owner Job File(s) Total Size active foobar 244 Test Page 1024 bytes I presume this is harmless, google search gave me this hint. http://www.blackmoreops.com/2013/11/19/how-to-fix-warning-gnome-keyring-err… But I want to know what I should add for trinity. thanks Uwe Brauer

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Re: [Dng] Some downgrades may be needed e.g. cups Re: Towards systemd-free packages
by Neo Futur 03 Feb '15

03 Feb '15

( being on the two mailing lists I m cross posting on the TDE mailing list so they know devuan could be interested in supporting TDE . . . ) same here, TDE ( kde3 fork reacting to the unstable kde4 bloat ) : * have all the features I expect from a modern window manager * is very stable, even if you customize it changing many configuration options * have a very good and intuitive customization panel * is using much less resources than the more recent kde or gnome * have no plans on depending on systemd ever ( there are a few threads on the topic on the tde mailing list ) : http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::6629 "TDE will not intentionally introduce a hard dependency on systemd" I d also add that I often install linux to new users coming from the windows environment, the feedback from those users have always been very bad for kde4 and very good for kde3. On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 5:12 PM, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp <dr.klepp(a)gmx.at> wrote: >> Nik, how reasonable would it be to use TDE without KDE apps? Would >> doing so still yield benefits over and above, let's say, Xfce? Does TDE >> have any systemd dependencies? >> >> Thanks, >> >> SteveT >> > > Oh, I forgot one thing: On TDE you can move windows from desktop to desktop using the pager, just like the FVWM pager. > > Nik > > -- > Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA. > > _______________________________________________ > Dng mailing list > Dng(a)lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

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Trinity R14 & openSUSE 13.2-x86_64 cannot install - avahi dependency
by Larry Stotler 02 Feb '15

02 Feb '15

I added the trinity r14 repos for 13.2 (x84_64 & noarch) but when I try to install I get the following: Problem: trinity-desktop-14.0.0-1.oss132.opt.noarch requires trinity-tdebase >= 14.0.0, but this requirement cannot be provided uninstallable providers: trinity-tdebase-14.0.0-1.oss132.opt.x84_64[x86_64] When I look in Software Management under YaST I find that tdebase requires tdelibs and tdelibs requires avahi. I don't use avahi and don't install it like I dont install apparmour, pulseaudio, gimp, nepomuk, etc Is there a way to remove this as a dependency? One of the issues I've had with linux distros for the 17 years I've used it is the unneccessary dependecies that pull in unneeded or unwanted sotware. Thanx for improving KDE 3.5.x. I still can't stand what they did with KDE4.

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Trinity mirrors?
by Thierry de Coulon 29 Jan '15

29 Jan '15

Hello all, This week end I again tried some install (trying to build a "video editing machine" around KdenLive and LightWorks - faily impressed by the later) and could not install Trinity (404 on one of the main repositories). This made me think we need mirrors. While I can imagine not many could mirror everything, maybe some could mirror TDE at least for one distribution. What are the requirements (here I mean disk space)? Of course the next question is traffic but this I would have to look were I am hosted. Have a nice day, Thierry

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Fault in font in message body in KMail
by Lisi Reisz 29 Jan '15

29 Jan '15

KMail on TDE 3.5.13.2 on Wheezy, all fully updated. Because my husband had an eye operation today I wanted to enlarge everything in KMail for him. I cannot enlarge the text in the message body. After about ten tries the font changed from serif to sans-serif, but that is all. When I change the message body setting, the headers change, be they long or short - but he doesn't want to read those. The text of the email remains stubbornly tiny. The date in the message list also fails to change font. The rest changes! I have tried to have everything fully updated, but am getting: <normal updating> Err http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net wheezy Release.gpg Could not connect to ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net:80 (108.166.152.51), connection timed out Fetched 935 kB in 2min 0s (7,762 B/s) W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/slavek-banko/axis/ubuntu/dists/w…: Could not connect to ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net:80 (108.166.152.51), connection timed out W: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead. <continue normal updating> Sources.list: (The inappropriate wrapping is not in the sources.list file, only here) <quote> deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian wheezy main contrib non-free deb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian wheezy main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main contrib non-free deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.at.debian.org/debian wheezy-backports main contrib non-free deb http://mozilla.debian.net wheezy-backports iceweasel-release deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org wheezy main non-free # deb http://depot-trinity.dotriver.eu/trinity-v3.5.13/debian wheezy main # deb http://depot-trinity.dotriver.eu/trinity-builddeps-v3.5.13/debian wheezy main deb http://mirror.ntmm.org/trinity/trinity-v3.5.13/debian wheezy main deb http://mirror.ntmm.org/trinity/trinity-builddeps-v3.5.13/debian wheezy main deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/slavek-banko/axis/ubuntu wheezy main </quote> Suggestions, please! The poor man can't read at the moment - and he now can't easily keep up with his email either! The eye problem is only temporary, so I would like to solve this fast! I wondered about just reinstalling KMail, but don't want to mess up his mail. Lisi

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kmail crash on tde-14, NM backend error
by kanenas＠hawaii.rr.com 28 Jan '15

28 Jan '15

upgraded my debian wheezy to r14 about a month ago with no problems. after a couple of hardware related crashes (now fixed) I lost my kmail. trying to run it from console I get the following message: ............ [TDE NM Backend ERROR] [/build/buildd/tdelibs-trinity-14.0.0-r1231/tdecore/tdehw/networkbackends/network-manager/network-manager.cpp:1823] Attempting to access the network-manager VPN service returned: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.VPN.Plugin was not provided by any .service files [kcrash] TDECrash: Application 'kmail' crashing... ERROR: Communication problem with kmail, it probably crashed. ............................ I have tried to reinstall as much of nm and tde as possible, can't shake the error. any aiedas? thanks in advance, d.

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[Trinity-on-NixOS] Annoucing my project: packaging Trinity Desktop Environment to Nixpkgs
by Anderson Torres 27 Jan '15

27 Jan '15

Hello, Nixers and Trinity users! I am Anderson Torres, a "wannabe" Computer Scientist (I am studying to admissional exams for a Brazilian CS undergrad course), and there is about one year I am a NixOS user. I want to port/package Trinity for NixOS, because I really liked the old KDE3.x series! I used KDE 3.x when I started using Linux Slackware and open source in 2004. Well, I will use the tag [Trinity-on-NixOS] when I need to talk about my project of porting an ask some questions. Well, many thanks in advance! Anderson Useful links: http://www.trinitydesktop.org http://nixos.org/

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PCLinuxOS Trinity Live CD
by Lisi Reisz 27 Jan '15

27 Jan '15

Alexandre, As you know, disagreements we may have had, but I have always tried to give credit where credit was due. At my local Linux Users Group meeting on Saturday, someone was wanting help to get Linux on his oldish laptop. Well, his father's. A refugee from XP. He had tried various versions/flavours of Ubuntu without success - they just wouldn't install. He expressed a definite preference for somehow getting Ubuntu on. And I had an Ubuntu + TDE Live CD with me. So, TDE to the fore. I rushed to supply a Live/Install CD before anyone else. I fished out my Ubuntu + 14 and your PCLinuxOS + 14 with a view to giving him both to try. Exegnu was out because of multimedia etc. But Ubuntu was 64 bit. So that left yours. I said that I understood it had been expressly intended for older machines, so I thought that there was a high chance that it would both install OK and then run properly. I handed it to him, but said sorry, it isn't Ubuntu. My Ubuntu + TDE live CD is 64 bit and I assume that you need 32 bit. He confirmed this, and took the PCLinuxOS CD. Someone else was still looking for possible Ubuntu CDs or other offerings, but somewhat idly he started to install your CD, expecting it to fail as everything else had, by when he would have other offerings to try. It installed. No problem. One minor glitch. He accidentally installed the wrong keyboard - goodness only knows what it was! - and had to start again. No other problems. It Just Worked. By half way through he was saying that nothing else had got that far. I think he'll change the background - he shares my taste in pictures rather than yours - but we agreed that that was a very minor detail. He was delighted. A very satisfied customer. So, hopefully, a convert for TDE; and also for PCLinuxOS! Kudos, Alexandre. Vive le Qébec libre or something. \o/ Lisi

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Translate TDE?
by Michael . 25 Jan '15

25 Jan '15

OK I've now got more time on my hands (university is nearly finished for about a month) and I want to catch up on things such as translating. I asked ages ago about how I get to translate TDE into en_AU (Australian English) but never did find out (I'm assuming because R14 was under heavy development) so I'm asking again and if at all possible would love to get into it sometime next week. So if anyone has advice or knows what I need to do feel free to let me know what I personally need to do to be able to start translating TDE into en_AU (and maybe encourage my friends across the Tasman to do likewise for en_NZ and maybe even Maori). Cheers. Michael.

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Some progress on FreeBSD 10.1
by Dr. Nikolaus Klepp 23 Jan '15

23 Jan '15

Hi all! At last I found some time to try compiling TDE on FreeBSD - and I have a question, too :-) First of all, I manged to compile tqt3 using gcc47 and as fas as I can tell all provided testprograms (example/ and tutorial/) are working as expected, just "examples/thread" ends up non-responsive. I have not tried gcc48. What I did not get right: * I failed to set the correct compiler, so I had to add a symlink from g++47 -> g++ and gcc47 -> gcc * I had to add "-thread" to configure, otherwise the build fails (debian: both "-thread" and "-no-thread" builds succeed) * I had to add "LD_LIBRARY_PATH=<...>/tqt3/lib", otherwise the build fails because "tquic" misses it's libriaries. * some build options like OpenGL support etc. So my questions are: * Is there a way to set the compiler gp "g++47" and "gcc47" ? * What are the build options for the current debian build? "configure" gives me this list: Build type: freebsd-g++ Configuration ....... nocrosscompiler minimal-config small-config medium-config large-config full-config styles tools kernel widgets dialogs iconview workspace inputmethod network canvas table xml sql release dll thread largefile stl system-mng system-jpeg system-png png no-glibmainloop gif zlib bigcodecs x11sm xshape xkb inputmethod STL support ......... yes PCH support ......... no IPv6 support ........ no Thread support ...... yes NIS support ......... no CUPS support ........ no Large File support .. partial GIF support ......... yes MNG support ......... plugin (system) JPEG support ........ plugin (system) PNG support ......... yes (system) Glib main loop support ......... no zlib support ........ yes OpenGL support ...... no NAS sound support ... no Session management .. yes XShape support ...... yes Xinerama support .... no Tablet support ...... no Xcursor support ..... no XRandR support ...... no XRender support ..... no Xft support ......... no XKB Support ......... yes immodule support .... yes immodule ext support no Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA. Dr. Nikolaus Klepp Einnehmerstraße 14 A-4810 Gmunden Tel.: +43 650 82 11 724 email: office(a)klepp.biz

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kpdf problems
by Dan Youngquist 20 Jan '15

20 Jan '15

I've been having a couple problems with kpdf. Both have been going on for some time now; I don't remember exactly when they started, but it could've been when I switched from 13.2 to R14 several months ago. This is on Debian 7. 1. Occasionally it will refuse to render a single page of a multipage PDF (or maybe a couple pages of a very long document), when other viewers render all pages just fine. It's the same pages every time, and there's nothing different about them that I can see -- just a random page in the middle of a document. If I burst the PDF into individual files for each page, it still refuses to render that same page. 2. It "forgets" a page as soon as it's no longer displayed, and has to re-render it to display it again. It's as though Memory Usage is set to Low instead of Normal or Aggressive, but the setting makes no difference. This is very inconvenient in cases where it takes more than a fraction of a second to render a page, which is the case with most of the PDFs I use. 3. One more that's not a new problem, just the way kpdf has always been: It's extremely slow -- something like 3x slower than Adobe Reader, and at least 50% slower than Evince. I'd have switched to one of those long ago, but there are several features of kpdf that I really like. Is there any chance of getting these things fixed? Thanks. -- PGP key: http://homestead-products.com/pubkey.htm

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New install, one icon not working
by Curt Howland 20 Jan '15

20 Jan '15

Good afternoon. I've recently had to reinstall my work laptop, and rather than try to make Windows work again, I was given permission to run Linux. Debian Wheezy, TDE 14. Everything installed cleanly, and works. There is only one thing I've found that is a problem, the Network Manager icon in the system tray is not full sized, it's maybe 4 pixels square. http://priss.com/20150119_Net_Manager.png That's a screen-grab of my system tray, showing the microscopic icon for Network Manager between the screen size and VLC cone. I've tried re-adding it, same size. If I run XFCE, the icon shows up just fine. Suggestions? -- The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom is courage. - Thucydides

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Preliminary-stable-builds: new platforms and new distribution
by Slávek Banko 20 Jan '15

20 Jan '15

Hi all, I have for you some informations about alternative apt source 'preliminary-stable-builds'. 1) Because the release of Jessie as a new stable series is approaching, I extended the platforms for which are packages built. Besides usual amd64, i386, armel and armhf. a) mips => 100% done b) powerpc => due to a technical problem with qemu-user are not built c) arm64 => 100% done - someone has such hardware? We are ready :) 2) On the user wish I added build for Ubuntu 14.04 (Trusty) on PowerPC platform (Ubuntu Ports) => 100% done. 3) Finally, preliminary packages for upcoming Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid) are available - the usual platforms amd64 and i386. And, of course, are continually updated packages :) -- Slávek

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Raspberry TDM
by Dave 16 Jan '15

16 Jan '15

Does the Raspberry Pi version have TDM, or are we stuck with lightdm? if so howto?

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Debian installation fails: "Package libical1 is not available"
by Davide Baldini 16 Jan '15

16 Jan '15

Hello, for specific and motivated reasons, my Debian installation is composed of packages spread across the following repositories listed in my sources.list: > deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian jessie main > deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian wheezy main > > # kde3 for ubuntu/squeeze (being replaced by Trinity, right now) > #deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kde3-maintainers/ppa/ubuntu/ karmic main > > # trinity > deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-r14.0.0/debian jessie main > deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-builddeps-r14.0.… jessie main > > ## displaylink xorg driver > deb http://ch.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise main universe After I issue # apt-get update # apt-get install tde-trinity I get: The following packages have unmet dependencies: tde-trinity : Depends: tdeaddons-trinity (>= 4:14.0.0~) but it is not going to be installed Depends: tdepim-trinity (>= 4:14.0.0~) but it is not going to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. Going down the dependency chain, I find: # apt-get install tde-trinity tdeaddons-trinity kaddressbook-plugins-trinity kaddressbook-trinity libical1 Package libical1 is not available, but is referred to by another package. [...] However the following packages replace it: libical1a Is this a bug or a problem with my setup? What should be done? -- Davide

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R14 Kpilot and KOrganizer Reminder Daemon Problems.
by Will Hill 14 Jan '15

14 Jan '15

Hi, I'm new here but have been enjoying TDE for about a year. I like it so much that I keep a blog of it, http://50.80.140.55/photo_album/chron/desktop/trinity16.html The KPilotDaemon in R14 of TDE no longer works for me. I'm using i386 Wheezy. The daemon goes into some kind of CPU consuming loop and I'm unable to sync my Handsrping Visor. This was working in the previous release of TDE and that made me very happy. I'd like to track down the problem myself but was unable to build the Kpilot package from the Wheezy source package. I tried to do it the Debian way as found, https://wiki.debian.org/BuildingTutorial it looks like the location directories don't take, willhill@homefree:~/src/kpilot-trinity-14.0.0-r142$ fakeroot debian/rules binary test -x debian/rules dh_testroot dh_clean -k dh_clean: dh_clean -k is deprecated; use dh_prep instead dh_installdirs -A install: cannot change permissions of `debian/kpilot-trinity': No such file or directory dh_installdirs: install -d debian/kpilot-trinity returned exit code 1 make: *** [common-install-prehook-impl] Error 2 I found the instructions for TDE cmake, https://wiki.debian.org/BuildingTutorial but it looks like that's what the Debian package tries to do. Is there some instruction that I'm overlooking? Separately, the KOrganizer reminder daemon no longer notifies me at the time I'd like it to remind me of things. It goes off much later, perhaps on resume from sleep. The combination of problems is annoying.

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desktop crashing
by dep 14 Jan '15

14 Jan '15

sorry to be such a bother, but as long as i'm bringing things up, here's one that has been an issue for a couple of years and survived into R14. my desktop crashes, but in such a way as to not even be noticeable at first. i have in lieu of wallpaper xplanet set up as a realtime moon phase indicator, updating hourly. the way i tell the desktop has crashed is that it doesn't update -- in this case it last refreshed at 10:30 a.m. yesterday. i believe that i was probably editing pictures at that time, though would not swear to it. after it crashes, a right click on the desktop does not produce the expected menu. as it happens, kicker and everything else continues to function as expected -- in fact, it was just now that i noticed that the desktop itself had gone south. i thought i'd look in the x error log, bit i see that the one i have, ~/.xsession-errors, is of an unspecified file type and won't open in a text editor (it reports its size as 500.0 k). any idea if there's a log that might let me see what's going on here and if so what log it might be? bonus points, how i might restart the desktop without logging out and back in? extra bonus points, how i might fix it so it doesn't do this anymore? i'm running some flavor of ubuntu 12.04LTS -- i say some flavor because when i sought to upgrade a few days ago the ubuntu upgrader refused, citing third-party apps or a beta version of the opsys, or something; it didn't specify. i thought i had bog standard 12.04LTS on the machine but am apparently wrong. -- dep The shortest distance between you and playing great acoustic guitar: the great new instructional DVDs from Marjorie Thompson, available at www.MarjorieThompson.com

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KDM forbid multiple sessions per user
by Nobody is Perfekt 13 Jan '15

13 Jan '15

Hi, How is it possible to configure TDM / TDE so that it does allow any user to have more than one session? TDM/Trinity after update to R14, will actually start a second session but the first goes looked. Example: On server logged as supervisor, then on thinstation too, on server goes the session locked. on .xsession-errors [tdecore] Deleting stale lockfile /tmp/tde-supervisor/kdesktop_lock_lockfile TQThreadInstance::start: Setting thread storage to 0xcff130 [tdecore] Deleting stale lockfile /tmp/tde-supervisor/kdesktop_lock_lockfile TQThreadInstance::start: Setting thread storage to 0x92ccc0 [tdecore] Deleting stale lockfile /tmp/tde-supervisor/kdesktop_lock_lockfile TQThreadInstance::start: Setting thread storage to 0x176a220 [tdecore] Deleting stale lockfile /tmp/tde-supervisor/kdesktop_lock_lockfile TQThreadInstance::start: Setting thread storage to 0x25b0130 [tdecore] Deleting stale lockfile /tmp/tde-supervisor/kdesktop_lock_lockfile TQThreadInstance::start: Setting thread storage to 0x1317e30 [tdecore] Deleting stale lockfile /tmp/tde-supervisor/kdesktop_lock_lockfile TQThreadInstance::start: Setting thread storage to 0x22511b0 [tdecore] Deleting stale lockfile /tmp/tde-supervisor/kdesktop_lock_lockfile TQThreadInstance::start: Setting thread storage to 0x1e2e000 [tdecore] Deleting stale lockfile /tmp/tde-supervisor/kdesktop_lock_lockfile TQThreadInstance::start: Setting thread storage to 0x155a100 [tdecore] Deleting stale lockfile /tmp/tde-supervisor/kdesktop_lock_lockfile TQThreadInstance::start: Setting thread storage to 0x806130 [tdecore] Deleting stale lockfile /tmp/tde-supervisor/kdesktop_lock_lockfile TQThreadInstance::start: Setting thread storage to 0x25d0080 [tdecore] Deleting stale lockfile /tmp/tde-supervisor/kdesktop_lock_lockfile TQThreadInstance::start: Setting thread storage to 0x1771300 Thanks,

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konqueror freeze - twin?
by ant 13 Jan '15

13 Jan '15

If I try to run konqueror (or kdirstat as another example) I get the window ok, but it doesn't respond at all. kmail and konsole work fine, though. kfmclient openURL file:///etc/hostname shows the hostname, but then freezes Hitting the 'x' button I get a dialogue box with Warning - TWin Window with title "Konqueror" is not responding...... Using Trinity R14.0.0 with Linux vega1 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt2-1 (2014-12-08) x86_64 GNU/Linux Anyone else seen this, or have any ideas on how to diagnose the problem? cheers ant -- Sent from my linux system running Debian 8, desktop Trinity R14 This email is plain text, not HTML. Any attachments are either .jpg or .pdf

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video weirdness under R14
by dep 13 Jan '15

13 Jan '15

this is new. just went to print a DVD label with the lacie lightscribe software, which has always worked heretofore, though this was the first time i've used it since upgrading to R14. clicking the buttons is problematic -- because the buttons can't be seen; the whole thing is black per the attached window shot. ideas as to a fix? the application offers no controls for coloration, and it worked fine on the last release version of TDE. -- dep The shortest distance between you and playing great acoustic guitar: the great new instructional DVDs from Marjorie Thompson, available at www.MarjorieThompson.com

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Problem with xserver-xorg-video-qxl and R14 with jessie
by rolf 12 Jan '15

12 Jan '15

Hi, I installed in a qemu-kvm a minimal wheezy:amd64 (whith absolutly no additional package), dist-upgrade to jessie:amd64 and the following packages (without any suggests): xserver-xorg-video-qxl xserver-xorg-video-vmware spice-vdagent dbus psmisc bzip2 unzip locales file ca-certificates pmount xorg tdebase-trinity desktop-base-trinity twin-trinity tdm-trinity tde-i18n-de-trinity knotes-trinity kcalc-trinity xterm After a reboot everything went fine, but after logout as normal user, qemu-kvm dies with the message "5416 Speicherzugriffsfehler" The VM is started with the additional options -soundhw ac97 -vga qxl -device virtio-serial-pci \ -device virtserialport,chardev=spicechannel0,name=com.redhat.spice.0\ -chardev spicevmc,id=spicechannel0,name=vdagent \ -spice port=${SPICEPORT},addr=${HOST},disable-ticketing I can not decide, if it is a problem of the qxl-videoserver (optimized for the spice-protocol) or something inside of Trinity. Fine regards Rolf

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RE: [trinity-users] Raspberry TDM
by Dave Lers 10 Jan '15

10 Jan '15

Alexandre wrote: >> On Saturday 10 January 2015 14:29:32 Dave wrote: >> > Does the Raspberry Pi version have TDM, or are we stuck with >> > lightdm? > But, try tdm-trinity or tdm as a name, instead of lightdm. Probably dumb questions, but what is a display manager needed (VS used) for, and what are the relative merits (lightdm VS tdm)? I don't seem to have any DM's installed. If lightdm uses less system resources, does it follow that not using a DM uses even less?

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trinity r14 and python/Tkinter
by schoenfeld 09 Jan '15

09 Jan '15

Hi, I installed trinity r14 on an openSuse 13.2 system using the repositories: http://tde-mirror.yosemite.net/trinity/trinity/rpm/opensuse13.2/trinity-r14… http://tde-mirror.yosemite.net/trinity/trinity/rpm/opensuse13.2/trinity-r14… this works very well! but when I tried to run a python script I got the following: kof@rzbn0052:~> python Python 2.7.8 (default, Sep 30 2014, 15:34:38) [GCC] on linux2 Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. >>> import Tkinter >>> master = Tkinter.Tk() Traceback (most recent call last): File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module> File "/usr/lib64/python2.7/lib-tk/Tkinter.py", line 1764, in __init__ self.tk = _tkinter.create(screenName, baseName, className, interactive, wantobjects, useTk, sync, use) _tkinter.TclError: unknown color name "BACKGROUND" >>> before the trinity installation it worked. any idea? sume system information: kof@rzbn0052:->uname -a Linux rzbn0052 3.16.7-7-desktop #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed Dec 17 18:00:44 UTC 2014 (762f27a) x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux kof@rzbn0052:->cat /etc/os-release NAME=openSUSE VERSION="13.2 (Harlequin)" VERSION_ID="13.2" PRETTY_NAME="openSUSE 13.2 (Harlequin) (x86_64)" ID=opensuse ANSI_COLOR="0;32" CPE_NAME="cpe:/o:opensuse:opensuse:13.2" BUG_REPORT_URL="https://bugs.opensuse.org" HOME_URL="https://opensuse.org/" ID_LIKE="suse" Regards Wolfgang -- Wolfgang Schönfeld Helmholtz Center Geesthacht Institute of Coastal Research Max-Planck-Str. 1 21502 Geesthacht Germany Phone: +49 4152 87 1576 Fax: +49 4152 87 1596 Helmholtz-Zentrum Geesthacht Zentrum für Material- und Küstenforschung GmbH Max-Planck-Straße 1 I 21502 Geesthacht I Deutschland/Germany Geschäftsführer/Board of Management: Prof. Dr. Wolfgang Kaysser, Dipl.-Ing. Michael Ganß Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrates/Chairman of the Supervisory Board: MinDirig Wilfried Kraus Amtsgericht Lübeck HRB 285 GE (Register Court) Internet: http://www.hzg.de

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Re: [trinity-users] R14 Kpilot and KOrganizer Reminder Daemon Problems.
by Timothy Pearson 09 Jan '15

09 Jan '15

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA224 > I'm not sure what that means, but there is is. I'll sign up for an > account on > your bug tracker and post more there later, thank you. Thanks for that! Unfortunately the interesting part of the backtrace is not shown; you will need to press Return when prompted until you are dumped back at the (gdb) prompt then post the entire text block that gdb spat out. Also, on looking closer it seems that we did not build a debug symbols package for kpilot-trinity. I am fixing that right now, but testing would require you to update kpilot-trinity to the latest nightly builds and install the new kpilot-trinity-dbg package (once it builds that is!). Is this an option? > Where can I find the full build log? Just set Konsole or similar to an unlimited line history, then issue the dpkg-buildpackage command against a freshly downloaded pacakge and wait for the error. Copy everything after the dpkg-buildpackage command (including the command itself) into a new text file and attach that file to a reply message. :-) Tim -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iFYEARELAAYFAlSvOLwACgkQLaxZSoRZrGGQ0ADgs0eqygTmT6cgzHiJ9Gq9huBg 7gjRf3gXxZHaFwDdHlLr7FuI/xW4QH4bZ08PhotUp2E66WW24DTndw== =JvIB -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Recent outage
by Timothy Pearson 08 Jan '15

08 Jan '15

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA224 All, As you are probably already aware at around 13:20 GMT 01/07/2015 all TDE services went offline. This was due to a widespread power outage; to make matters worse the site's backup generator froze and did not start in time due to the extreme cold in the area. All services should now be restored, however as this was a full outage I expect that there may be some remaining issues that I am not yet aware of. Please let me know if you see anything still down or malfunctioning at this point. As always we need your support to stay online! If you can, please help the project stay online: https://trinitydesktop.org/donate.php Thank you for your patience! Timothy Pearson Trinity Desktop Project -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iFYEARELAAYFAlSuq1QACgkQLaxZSoRZrGERYQDggPrv0YSyas69nGVzfwAotR7K WUq7+gMmfrphTgDfSkwKzjfUs/KHEmDElPemYuGb/Jw+FgzDIJgaOg== =ADoJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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K3B-Trinity will not install on R14
by Marc Chénier 07 Jan '15

07 Jan '15

I use Ubuntu Precise with the R14.0.0 TDE desktop on an amd64 system. I tried to install k3b-trinity with apt-get install and then with apt-get -f install. I have never had problems beforehand installing new packages with apt-get. The reply I get (in French) translates to something like : +++++++++ Certain packages cannot be installed... The following packages have unmet dependancies : k3b-trinity : Depend: libk3b3-trinity (= 4:14.0.0-r201-0ubuntu12.04.0+pr34) but 4:14.0.0-s-0ubuntu12.04.0+0 is to be installed Depend: k3b-data-trinity (= 4:14.0.0-r201-0ubuntu12.04.0+pr34) but 4:14.0.0-s-0ubuntu12.04.0+0 is to be installed E: Impossible to correct problems, the defective paquages are in « garder en l'état » mode. ++++++++ My understanding (am i correct?) is that k3b-trinity depends on 2 packages older than what I have on my computer (I checked). So what can i do to install k3b so that I can burn a new tde-live-disk for my "new" hand-me-down laptop? Thanks in advance. Marc

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Libreoffice interface problem in R14
by Robin Collins 05 Jan '15

05 Jan '15

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Amarok files limit
by Dave 05 Jan '15

05 Jan '15

I've noticed a problem with Amarok. I seems it cannot scan and catalog into the database any more than 12607 music files. Does not matter if it's with SQLite or MySQL. the progress bar climbs to 13 percent and never advances eventually disappears, showing a partial collection list. it does stop indexing but there are over 60,000 files in the music directory. I can use the files tab and "grab the music directory" and drag to playlist, and about 40 mins later all files show up in playlist, and they do play and have tag info, but collection tab doesn't show all that are in the playlist. Doesn't seem to leave any clue in a log file. All files have the same owner:group and attributes. amarok-1.14.10 in Trinity-3.5.13.2 on Debian Wheezy

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DCOP error
by Robby Kitchen 04 Jan '15

04 Jan '15

I just installed TDE R14.0.0 on top of a Xubuntu 14.04 install, going through Synaptic. Everything went very smooth, it was done in just a few minutes and the pc restarted and logged in using the same password I had for Xubuntu, since TDE did not ask me to set a password. I just assumed that is what I needed to use. Everything was going good, I was just going through the Control Center exploring trying to get familiar with the settings, until I came across one, (I don't remember now which one), but it needed a password before I could open it to make changes. I put in the same password I had just used, but got an error message saying that wasn't the right password. Just to be sure I knew what I was doing, I rebooted and logged back in the second time with the Xubuntu password. However I could not get that password to work for anything other than logging in. I even tried to reset my password using that one, but again it said incorrect password. So I did some research on the internet, and found instructions on how to reset a users password, by booting into advanced options and going to the recovery settings, opening a command line, and typing in "password <usenamer>", so I did that and set up another password I would remember easily. Rebooted, got back to log-in screen, put the new password in, and an error msg popped up, something about not being the right password. Then gave me an error about "DCOP server error no read access to $home unable to start". I restarted tried the old password, and the new password both about three times, while searching the internet on another pc, trying to troubleshoot and find the problem, I didn't find very much and what I did find, didn't work; I tried going back into advanced start options and change password back, it failed, saying that it wasn't secure enough. I completely understand the need to keep things and people safe, and not everybody needs access to certain parts of the OS, however I feel that if I don't want a password, I should not be forced to use one. The whole point of Linux is to use what you like, and not be forced to do what someone you've never me thinks you should do. I could use a different D/E, that wouldn't require a password for anything but the terminal, but then it wouldn't be TDE. I used TDE for about 3 weeks a long time ago, then Ubuntu upgraded and TDE was no longer supported, because a different file system or something was used, and when I emailed the support people, I was told it probably wouldn't be upgraded, At least that what the email I got said. So I have just been checking in periodically to see if it ever came back up, and was very happy to see it had. . I really like TDE, so I am hoping I can find an easy fix for this. I installed it last night just before gong to bed, so it's been installed less than 12 hours right now, it wouldn't be a big deal to reinstall from here. Other than being annoying and aggregating. Has anyone seen this error, and know how to correct it? I searched google for a while before writing in, and could not find anything that actually works for me. I generally avoid this kind of issue since it's very easy to bork a system, if your not careful. Thank You Robby Kitchen

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