tde-users March 2023

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now the TDE part . . .
by dep 17 Mar '23

17 Mar '23

greets, everyone . . . as a test run and experiment -- and to upgrade it -- i did a clean, fresh install of debian bookworm -- i keep wanting to say butterbean -- on my old but good thinkpad x200. much to my surprise, it was the quickest and easiest linux installation i've ever done. i realize that configuration is a whole nother story, but i'm impressed so far. there being no TDE choise, i installed gnome, because it brings along a lot of stuff that applications will need anyway. time now to edit /etc/apt/sources.list, and i'd kind of like to get it right. there's no listing on the TDE page for bookworm; the latest is bullseye. bookworm is, i think, what used to be "testing." i presume that using bullseye would be entirely compatable, but before i break something i want to double-check. is it? also, i wonder what it would take to get TDE listed among the debian installation choices. i see that plasma is, so i don't think it's that ancient qt fuss -- plus, the install went out and got "non-free" drivers for the video and the wifi card. it would be a good thing, i think if it were. -- dep Pictures: http://www.ipernity.com/doc/depscribe/album Column: https://ofb.biz/author/dep/

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Global view properties in Dolphin
by Leskala 16 Mar '23

16 Mar '23

Hi all, quick question regarding Trinity's Dolphin: When "Save view properties for each folder" is disabled, any setting related to sort mode (by name, by date etc.) or sort order (ascending, descending) is reset as soon as the folder is changed. This also applies to the "Show Hidden Files" option. Even if "All folders" is selected in "View" > "Adjust View Properties ..." the above persists. The "Apply view properties to:" options only seem to have any effect if "Save view properties for each folder" from the settings is also enabled. So without enabling per-folder settings (and having .d3lphinview files everywhere) there is no way in Dolphin to set persistent global view properties like sort order - or am I missing something? Best regards, Leskala

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Ark and tar.lz
by Darrell Anderson 15 Mar '23

15 Mar '23

Does ark support tar.lz? Thanks. DA

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notify
by Marvin Jones 15 Mar '23

15 Mar '23

The recent notify issue discussion prompts me to ask: Is there a notify HOWTO anywhere for me to learn about how to implement notify? I have a few long-running, in the background bash scripts where notify would be a nice touch to implement. As was mentioned, passing "notify" to a search engine -- even with other search terms -- is of little use. Inquiring minds... Thank you! Jonesy -- Marvin L Jones | Marvin | W3DHJ | linux Pueblo, Colorado | @ | Jonesy | FreeBSD __ 38.238N 104.547W | jonz.net | DM78rf | SK

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Well, you've sold me, but . . .
by dep 14 Mar '23

14 Mar '23

For a start, I'll need to get months of treatment if I'm to recover from my exposure to the Trisquel folks. It's no exaggeration to say that they might well consider Richard M. Stallman insufficiently pure ideologically. Perhaps it comes from guilt; they acknowledge that without Canonical a/k/a Ubuntu they could not exist. It's a little like Judge Roy Bean's comment on reformed prostitutes, indeed, reformed anything. One referred to Debian as a "fallen gold standard," and I pointed out that gold is actually up $52 today, but I doubt that changed any minds. It's too bad. A simply de-Canonicaled Ubuntu would be a good thing. Which leaves Debian. If I weren't bone lazy I would have adopted it instead of Ubuntu many years ago. Thanks to everyone here for the many useful tips in that regard, and other regards, though I think it's pretty clear that Debian is the answer. It's rye whisky, while most other distros are umbrella drinks. I have one question (well, many, but this one just surprised me): of the many ISOs in the TDE repository, there isn't a Debian one. Is there some reason for this or simply nobody to make one? Like any good former OS/2 user, as a matter of reflex I have /home on its own partition, pictures on their own partition and drive, and so on. I'll probably further back up /home on an empty partition of another drive as well. (Having mentioned OS/2, let me once again whine about it having been wise from the get-go to segregate applications in their own directories, as opposed to intermingling them with everything else.) Anyway, having asked and been advised, I thought it right to let everybody know where I am ending up. -- dep Pictures: http://www.ipernity.com/doc/depscribe/album Column: https://ofb.biz/author/dep/

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MX Package Installer / Install TDE on any Debian based system
by Michael 14 Mar '23

14 Mar '23

On Monday 13 March 2023 05:21:01 pm dep via tde-users wrote: > > Nope. Gotta be Debian. Gotta land a taildragger sometime. Hi dep, Go you! I use MX/antiX solely because of the ease of use. Specifically for their “Package Installer.” It makes installing most anything a one click operation. Saving hours of research to correctly install something like a full LAMP stack or Virtuabox makes me happy. But at the end of the day it’s just a bunch of scripts, that are portable to any Debian based system. I’m not sure if you’ll want or need them, but I’m attaching the tar archive of the MX set of scripts for any that might find them useful. While most of them are easy enough to figure out, some (like the ***vpn’s) are fairly complex, but reading several to get the context should be good enough for most on this list to be able to deconstruct them into commands to run as root. Note: After modifying the location where the TDE sources.list is to fit your distribution, the ‘tde.pm’ file included will install TDE on any Debian based system. Best All, Michael

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Embedding viewing
by Darrell Anderson 13 Mar '23

13 Mar '23

Konqueror seems designed to view everything in an embedded viewer. I found this bug report: https://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=768 Is there an easy one-shot work-around to update konqueror so everything does not default to embedded view? Thanks. DA

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Arts not initializing
by Darrell Anderson 13 Mar '23

13 Mar '23

I installed TDE 14.0.12 on another system. Arts fails to initialize correctly in that attempting to use media players results in no sound. The problem seems unique to this system and only with TDE. I have tried fiddling with the various arts configurations in TCC. Sound issues do not exist on this specific system with other desktop environments. Sound issues do not exist in other systems with TDE. Comparing $TDEHOME config files with the functional systems has not found anything helpful. Any ideas how to fix this issue? Thanks. DA

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Dolphin will no longer open portable storage devices
by Ken Heard 13 Mar '23

13 Mar '23

I started my desktop one day last week and wanted to open such a device, but Dolphin would not let me. I was surprised because the previous day I had no trouble opening Dolphin. Something must have happened overnight. Instead that morning Dolphin crashed and returned a going away message which said the following, among other things: > The application Dolphin (d3lphin) crashed and caused the signal 11 (SIGSEGV). Another message provided by the TDE crash handler read as follows: > Could not generate a backtrace because the debugger 'gbd' was not found. I understand that the generic term for what happened is called a 'segmentation fault' and I know what that phrase means. What I do not know however it what to do to fix one when it occurs. I did however discover that I could access from a terminal and through Gwenview all my portable devices. Even so, the absence of Dolphin limited my full and effective use of the computer. I also tried using Konqueror but encountered problems with it as well. When I tried to open a device I expected that I would be able to view a list of the directories in the selected device. Instead Kwrite was activated, but said that it could not proceed because what Kwrite found there were directories rather than files. I would certainly be grateful for any help to me free myself from this dilemma. Regards, Ken Heard --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting

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Trisquel/drop-in ubuntu replacement
by dep 13 Mar '23

13 Mar '23

Just found this reply to my note on their list about jumping from Ubuntu to Trisquel. They're actually ideologically even more purist than Debian is, it seems -- there's a non-free Debian repository nowadays, isn't there? Anyway: First of all: welcome! > there are certain "non-free" packages i need, particularly video drivers. The Trisquel community will not "help" you install non-free software, because it does not consider it would actually be helping you: https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/trisquel-community-guidelines > by pointing at the trisquel servers in my /etc/apt/sources.list instead > of ubuntu ones, i can switch by simply doing the usual apt update / apt > upgrade Non-free packages would remain and would never be upgraded, even if vulnerabilities in them are exploited. If I were you, I would export the list of installed packages following https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/cloning-system-or-how-make-copy-installed-pac… (for instance), make a fresh install of Trisquel 11 Beta 6 (based on Ubuntu 22.04) using the ISO on https://cdbuilds.trisquel.org/aramo/ providing your desktop environment of preference (tell us which one it is if you do not know what ISO to download) and import the packages. Those that are not installable are certainly proprietary software. > are the package names the same? Yes. > is there a non-free repository for things like vid drivers? No. Trisquel is 100% free software. > i presume my other sources.list lines, that have to do with ppas and the > like, could remain intact. You can save those files before the fresh install too. For your own sake, I hope you will not re-add PPA proposing proprietary software. > what version name (focal, jammy, for instance, should i employ The code name of Trisquel 10 (based on Ubuntu 20.04) is Nabia. That of Trisquel 11 (based on Ubuntu 22.04) is Aramo. > is there a model sources.list I could copy from? Because I download the packages from https://mirror.math.princeton.edu/pub/trisquel-packages/ (there are many other mirrors) and I use Trisquel 11 Aramo, my /etc/apt/sources.list is: # Trisquel repositories for supported software and updates deb https://mirror.math.princeton.edu/pub/trisquel-packages/ aramo main deb https://mirror.math.princeton.edu/pub/trisquel-packages/ aramo-security main deb https://mirror.math.princeton.edu/pub/trisquel-packages/ aramo-updates main deb https://mirror.math.princeton.edu/pub/trisquel-packages/ aramo-backports main [eoq] So they seem to be the computer equivalent of woke, which seems to me to be that they'd rather I follow the RMS model than have a computer that does what I need it to do. There are no Nvidia drivers from the FSF that do what the Nvidia binary blobs and associated configuration software do. The on-topic question: there are TDE packages that would work, correct? Are there even any for "aramo"? -- dep Pictures: http://www.ipernity.com/doc/depscribe/album Column: https://ofb.biz/author/dep/

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