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Fwd: Re: Debian 11 released
by Edward 19 Aug '21

19 Aug '21

/Apparently, my emails from Caramail/GMX aren't making it to the list, so I've subscribed using a different e-mail. I hope this resolves whatever the issue is/was.// // //This e-mail was sent earlier this afternoon via Caramail/GMX and never made it to the list./ -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Re: [tde-users] Re: Debian 11 released Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2021 12:47:48 -0400 From: Edward To: users(a)trinitydesktop.org On 8/18/21 8:19 AM, deloptes wrote: > Edward wrote: > >>> Debian has released version 11, bullseye. Should the current TDE >>> (buster) packages work with bullseye until the packages are updated? >>> >>> Thanks. >> Confirming the TDE desktop (buster) came up fine, after upgrading Debian >> to bullseye. > It is not recommended to use packages compiled for buster on the bullseye. > While most of the code would work, there is no guarantee that things > are not > broken. > You better use TDE for bullseye instead (replace buster with bullseye in > your source.list). This is what I've done, I'm now using the stable preliminary builds of the TDE packages for Bullseye. I commented out the original repo lines for Buster in the /etc/apt/sources.list file. Ed -- Linux. A Continual Learning Experience. TDE: R14.0.11-pre - Debian: 11 (amd64)

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Re: Debian 11 released
by Edward 19 Aug '21

19 Aug '21

On 8/16/21 3:55 AM, Michele Calgaro wrote: > On 2021/08/16 12:36:08 AM, Edward wrote: >> On 8/15/21 10:15 AM, Edward wrote: >>> Debian has released version 11, bullseye. Should the current TDE >>> (buster) packages work with bullseye until the packages are updated? >>> >>> Thanks. >> >> Confirming the TDE desktop (buster) came up fine, after upgrading Debian >> to bullseye. >> >> > > Hi Edward, > you could use PSB packages for bullseye ;-) so you also get rolling > updates of the changes > that will go into the next release. > > https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Preliminary_Stable_Builds Hi Michele, Thank you for this information. I went this route and added the lines to apt/etc/sources.list. Apt successfully retrieved and installed the R14.0.11-pre packages and it also resolved the binutils issue. The first desktop is working perfectly. I will do the same on my other desktop. The original 'buster' entries for 14.0.10 were left as they were in the sources.list file. Ed -- Linux. A Continual Learning Experience. TDE: R14.0.11-pre - Debian: 11 (amd64)

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Debian 11 released
by Edward 18 Aug '21

18 Aug '21

Debian has released version 11, bullseye. Should the current TDE (buster) packages work with bullseye until the packages are updated? Thanks. -- Linux. A Continual Learning Experience. TDE: R14.0.10 - Debian: 10.10 (amd64)

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switching to sdd boot drive
by dep 14 Aug '21

14 Aug '21

Greets, folks . . . The nifty little WD 500gb SSD has arrived. I stuck it into a little USB adapter device and seem to have succeeded in dd'ing my boot partition. /dev/sda1, onto it. I have employed the appropriate utility to give it a unique ID, and have labeled its first partition as BOOT. (My home partition, on the existing /dev/sda, is labeled HOME, and /etc/fstab are edited to mount LABEL=BOOT as / and LABEL=HOME as /home.) If things weren't unnecessarily complicated, I could go into the bios and tell it to boot from USB and check the thing before I mounted it permanently. Ah, but . . . There's no nice, normal setting to set boot order in the frigging bios! I can't tell it to just boot from USB and call it a day. Instead, it offers a variety of choices that include booting from a drive that has no operating system at all, so it's not smart or anything like that. I did update-grub on the existing hard drive installation and it saw and added the SSD install. Here things get weird: sometimes it shows it and sometimes it doesn't. Ubuntu in its wisdom has screwed around with the GRUB2 menu. Initially it didn't't show up at all; after I dicked around with it a little a few days ago I got it to appear. Even then, it isn't a GRUB menu as we know it. By fiddling around with the bios I can get a menu that contains the SSD -- /dev/ssd1 -- to show up in the GRUB menu, but sometimes not. And even then, if I select the SSD installation, it does fiddle a little with the SSD on the way in, but boots to the /dev/sda1 install. Now, this is especially problematic because the hard drive boot is, as I mentioned, from /dev/sda1, while /home is /dev/sda3, so just yanking that drive is not among the relatively convenient possibilities. I'd like to boot from it, of course, for reasons including the ability to run update-grub on it, so that the default boot would be from the SSD when it is happily installed in the system. (After which I'd open a terminal and again run update-grub so that GRUB would get everything in its final configuration, with booting from the hard drive possible in case of SSD failure.) Any ideas? Prefarably as opposed to guesses? -- dep Pictures: http://www.ipernity.com/doc/depscribe/album Column: https://ofb.biz/author/dep/

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Re: GTK 3 TQt Engine Styles
by Leskala 12 Aug '21

12 Aug '21

> I use a GTK 3 application ("Revolt" on Debian/Devuan) and its titlebar is > so ugly. I tried to use my TDE style for it in "GTK Styles and Fonts" and > it only makes it worse. GTK 2 applications look much nicer with Tqt3 > integration, but GTK 3... It's an eyesore no matter what, to say the > least.This brings me to my question - is there any way to make GTK 3 apps > integrate more nicely into TDE? I have gtk3-tqt-engine-trinity installed > but there's only the default style available or use my TDE theme for it > (which breaks it and makes it look worse). For GTK3 I recommend installing the package "gtk3-nocsd". It will force GTK3 applications to refrain from drawing their own titlebar (client-side decoration as the Gnome folks call it) and will restore the TDE titlebars instead. Secondly, I recommend the GTK2/3 theme "TraditionalOk" from the "mate-themes" package of the Debian repositories, which gets quite close to TDE's Plastik theme. Once installed, you should be able to select it for GTK3 in the "GTK Styles and Fonts" panel of the control center. Best regards, Leskala

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Raise/Lower is seems backwards
by danapple＠danapple.com 11 Aug '21

11 Aug '21

Hello! For Window Behavior, I have Modifier key + mouse wheel: "Raise/Lower" This is a great feature which I use all of the time. However, the motion of the mouse wheel seems backwards to what the window actually does. When I pull the wheel towards me, the window moves lower in the stack, which means that it appears to move away from me. Of course, I've been using KDE 3.5/Trinity for ten years in this manner, so I have somewhat gotten used to it. :-) However, I think it would be fantastic to have the option to reverse the sense of the mouse wheel of this. What do you think of adding a Lower/Raise option which functions the same as the current Raise/Lower, but with the reversed sense? I think this would be a more natural mapping, at least for some of us, and would not detract from anybody else's use of this functionality. Sincerely, Daniel.

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Disable window resize on screen changes?
by danapple＠danapple.com 11 Aug '21

11 Aug '21

Hi, all! I am often connected and disconnecting an external monitor from my laptop. Whenever I do so (and sometimes when the laptop/KDE thinks I did, but I didn't) my various application windows are resized. They are often resized to be full-screen size, and often to minimal size. Either way is inconvenient. Is there a way to disable the resizing of windows when the screen geometry changes? It would be convenient for the windows to be *moved* such that they are visible in the new geometry but not to be resized. Sincerely, Daniel.

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Big icons in the Kicker taskbar
by Leskala 11 Aug '21

11 Aug '21

Hello everyone :) After seeing Q4OS with its big icons in Kicker's taskbar I've been searching far and wide but haven't been able to figure out how to achieve this using plain TDE on Debian. I managed to make the buttons themselves bigger by adjusting '~/.trinity/share/config/ktaskbarrc' with: [General] MinimumButtonHeight=38 However, icons on the taskbar buttons stay small (16 px). Can somebody enlighten me which setting Q4OS is using here to enlarge the icons on the taskbar buttons? Or are they using a patched version of Kicker that is not available on Debian? Best regards, Leskala

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Colors in .trinity/share/config/kdeglobals
by Dr. Nikolaus Klepp 10 Aug '21

10 Aug '21

Hi all! I'm working on a small program that unifies the color scheme over all configs of TDE. But I found something that I quite don't understand: .trinity/share/config/kdeglobals has a bunch of color definitions, but almost all are set to "invalid" in my config. Does anybody know what these are good for - and why "colorScheme=" is empty? Nik excerpt with all sectionnames + color from ~/.trinity/share/config/kdeglobals: [DesktopIcons] ActiveColor=invalid ActiveColor2=invalid DefaultColor=invalid DefaultColor2=invalid DisabledColor=invalid DisabledColor2=invalid [General] linkColor=140,140,255 visitedLinkColor=255,136,255 [KDE] colorScheme= [MainToolbarIcons] ActiveColor=invalid ActiveColor2=invalid DefaultColor=invalid DefaultColor2=invalid DisabledColor=invalid DisabledColor2=invalid [PanelIcons] ActiveColor=invalid ActiveColor2=invalid DefaultColor=invalid DefaultColor2=invalid DisabledColor=invalid DisabledColor2=invalid [SmallIcons] ActiveColor=invalid ActiveColor2=invalid DefaultColor=invalid DefaultColor2=invalid DisabledColor=invalid DisabledColor2=invalid [ToolbarIcons] ActiveColor=invalid ActiveColor2=invalid DefaultColor=invalid DefaultColor2=invalid DisabledColor=invalid DisabledColor2=invalid -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ...

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hibrid system plasma+tde
by sacarde 10 Aug '21

10 Aug '21

hi, I try to configure an hybrid system based on: kubuntu-18.04 (without akonadi-kmail-mysqld) and install kmail+dependencies from triniy-desktop I insert into: $HOME/.trinity/share/config/kdeglobals BrowserApplication[$e]=!/usr/bin/firefox JpgApplication[$e]=!/usr/bin/gwenview PdfApplication[$e]=!/usr/bin/okular but when I read an email (in trinity-kmail) only links to urls work fine what is wrong? thank you sacarde(a)tiscali.it

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