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Re: Can't seem to start kooldock [SOLVED]
by midi-pascal 04 Jan '21

04 Jan '21

On 2021-01-04 7:49 a.m., Stefan Krusche via tde-users wrote: > Hi Pascal, > > Am Montag, 4. Januar 2021 schrieb midi-pascal via tde-users: >> Hi Stefan, >> >> When kooldock is started for the first time, it is located at the >> bottom of the screen by default so it is "under" the TDE panel. >> That's why you do not see it. >> >> You can move the panel temporarily so you can see kooldock and >> configure it to be elsewhere on the screen. >> >> Then move the panel back to its original position. > Thank you. I had read that in an mail conversation (2020.10.02) between > you and Nik Klepp, but that didn't help to enlighten me. That's why I > asked in the first place. > > Explanation: I have no TDE Panel at the bottom, I have it at the left > side of the display. Secondly, kooldock only seems get triggered to > show up when the mouse is moved to a very short segment in the middle > of the bottom border of the display, and only when the mouse hits the > trigger section for longer than only accidentally, like at least, say, > 400 ms or so. > > This makes it hard to find if you don't know where to look and there's > no documentation, even for the experienced user. > > If you would like to get kooldock (I actually like it) more widely used, > I think it would help a lot when there were at least a rudimentary UNIX > man or TDE help page. > > I remember I tried once before and gave up without asking. > > Kind regards, > Stefan > ____________________________________________________ > tde-users mailing list -- users(a)trinitydesktop.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave(a)trinitydesktop.org > Web mail archive available at https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/users@trinitydeskt… Hi Stefan, By reading your explanation, it looks like kooldock is in "Auto Hide" mode. I see two ways to solve this: 1- When kooldock shows up, right-click on it. A menu should appear with "kooldock" as the last option. This will give access to the configuration in the "Edit Preferences". The first option is a checkbox named "Autohide". Uncheck it. 2- Quit kooldock (or kill it). Edit ~/.trinity/share/config/kooldockrc and set "Hidden" to 0. Restart kooldock. It should show up. Kind regards, Pascal

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Re: Can't seem to start kooldock
by midi-pascal 04 Jan '21

04 Jan '21

On 2021-01-04 5:16 a.m., Stefan Krusche via tde-users wrote: > Hi all, > > I just tried to start kooldock through the "Run command…" dialog but > nothing happens. It's not in the menus. It hasn't got a man page. I > think one time I added kooldock to kicker through the kontext menu and > the "Add miniprogram…" or "Add program…" dialogs but I can't reproduce > that. > > Kooldock is in the process list, though. > > $ ps aux | grep kooldock > stekru 3957 0.1 0.0 82900 29116 ? SN 10:48 0:02 kooldock > > Now I've run out of ideas. How can I utilize kooldock? > > Kind regards, > Stefan > ____________________________________________________ > tde-users mailing list -- users(a)trinitydesktop.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave(a)trinitydesktop.org > Web mail archive available at https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/users@trinitydeskt… Hi Stefan, When kooldock is started for the first time, it is located at the bottom of the screen by default so it is "under" the TDE panel. That's why you do not see it. You can move the panel temporarily so you can see kooldock and configure it to be elsewhere on the screen. Then move the panel back to its original position. Regards, Pascal

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Can't seem to start kooldock
by Stefan Krusche 04 Jan '21

04 Jan '21

Hi all, I just tried to start kooldock through the "Run command…" dialog but nothing happens. It's not in the menus. It hasn't got a man page. I think one time I added kooldock to kicker through the kontext menu and the "Add miniprogram…" or "Add program…" dialogs but I can't reproduce that. Kooldock is in the process list, though. $ ps aux | grep kooldock stekru 3957 0.1 0.0 82900 29116 ? SN 10:48 0:02 kooldock Now I've run out of ideas. How can I utilize kooldock? Kind regards, Stefan

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CLA × DCO
by Slávek Banko 03 Jan '21

03 Jan '21

Hi all, with the arrival of the new year, in addition to wishing you good health and well-being, I open another topic for discussion - arrangement between the project and contributors. As with many other open source projects, there were concerns about patent trolls and other potential legal risks that led Tim to propose the use of a CLA (Contributor License Agreement) in 2014. The questions following the CLA's proposal were mainly technical and focused on how to confirm compliance with these arrangements for smaller contributors. The discussion that followed led to a consensus on the fact that it was essential for the contributors to add a "Signed-off-by:" line to their contributions. As a result, the "Signed-off-by" requirement is exactly the same as the one for the DCO (Developer Certificate of Origin). DCO is significantly simpler than a CLA and now used by a lot of open source projects. For these reasons, in recent years we have already been using DCO rather than CLA for all contributions made. We would like to officially declare the CLA obsolete and replace it by a DCO. This would actually officially reconcile the declared state and the way it is actually used. Therefore, I ask you if anyone is aware of any obstacles, why this could not be done? See the CLA discussion thread: https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/devels@trinitydesk… See DCO: https://developercertificate.org/ Cheers -- Slávek

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Re: Trinity Trouble - Konqueror?
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 31 Dec '20

31 Dec '20

> Hi everyone. > > Unfortunately, I was forced to remove my installation of > Trinity/PCLinuxOS this morning, due to Firefox and Thunderbird not > working correctly. Specifically, Firefox was repeatedly asking to be the > default browser, even as I previously selected it as the default. And > Thunderbird, in the middle of all this, would no longer open links at > all, deciding to automatically add a new 'account' relating to news and > feeds. > > Both Vivaldi and Chromium were also installed as browsers, but once both > of these were removed, Firefox and Thunderbird continued to exhibit the > same behavior. > > Upon installing first Trinity/Ubuntu 20.04.1 and then Lubuntu 20.04 LTS, > I was unable to get HPLIP (as hp-setup) with either OS to communicate > with my HP printer, which was USB-connected. > > Final attempt, was to install Debian (10, LXQt). Fortunately, this was > able to detect the printer using hp-setup, however neither hp-systray > nor the HPLIP Toolbox (GUI) will launch. > > I am extremely hesitant to install Trinity on top of this Debian > installation, because I am afraid that with Konqueror included as the > default file manager, I will have the same issues with Firefox and > Thunderbird. I suspect that something with PCLOS may have changed, > causing it to detect both Firefox and Konqueror as web browsers, instead > of a web browser and a file manager. I don't know. > > I have been fiddling with this for the past seven hours now. I just want > it to work. > > Thanks in advance for any advice/suggestions/etc. > > > ____________________________________________________ Ok as a Big Daddy (PCLOS) user. I have some suggestions. I don't use the pclos package for FF or TB. I download from Mozilla directly and use those. Then go to preferences and manually check the default settings for both. I use a lot of HP printers. Great printers but they have their eccentricities. Try leaving the printers on during install. Or starting the HP tools getting to the printer detection dialog, then turn the printer on, off and on again. Make sure the USB is a good one. You can also use system-config-printer, which, IMO, is the best printer setup tool. The only time is doesn't always seem to work is when it's a HP network printer. I hope the above offers you something. However, wait for input from the rest of the collective. Be patient. Kate

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Migration of services - 12. etherpad
by Slávek Banko 29 Dec '20

29 Dec '20

Hi all, the twelfth, last, service on the migration list is Etherpad. -- Migration status -- Etherpad is a service that is located on the previous primary server, so we will need to decide how to proceed with this service. Etherpad was actively used only at the beginning of the project - last in 2012. Since then, the uses are very rare and insignificant. Therefore, it seems that it would be a useless effort to deal with the creation of a new instance and the migration of content. -- What needs to be done -- Because the "pads" that are there are more developer notes than data that would be useful to place on the main TDE wiki, we intended that useful information from the Etherpad could be placed on the wiki in TGW, which seems more suitable for developer notes. Data would not be lost, it would be in one place along with other developer discussions on issues and pull requests, and the Etherpad could be abandoned. -- More ideas and suggestions? What is your opinion on placing data from Etherpad to the wiki in TGW and leaving Etherpad? Do you know of any other services that we forgot when preparing the list of services for migration? Do you have any other ideas and suggestions? Cheers -- Slávek

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Migration of services - 11. build service
by Slávek Banko 29 Dec '20

29 Dec '20

Hi all, the eleventh service on the migration list is the build service. -- Migration status -- The previous build service used its own instance of Ubuntu Launchpad - you know it as QuickBuild. This is operated on the previous primary site, so it was necessary to deal with the change. In parallel, a second set of builders is used to build packages for PSB and PTB repositories. These builders are designed from the beginning to be completely independent of QuickBuild. This makes it easier to add new versions of distributions, other architectures and, above all, allows these builders to run sustainably. After changing the primary archive, official packages are no longer published from QuickBuild, but from PSB. This is starting with TDE R14.0.7. Therefore, QuickBuild is no longer used to build official packages and there is no need to deal with its migration. From a technical point of view: The reprepro tool is now used to manage all APT repositories. Sbuild (with schroot) is used to build binary packages. The inoticoming tool is used to automate the import of packages (both source and binary) into reprepro. -- What needs to be done -- QuickBuild provided build tasks management and a web interface for finding packages, monitoring build status, and viewing build logs. Such a web interface is not available for the currently used reprepro + sbuild. Because Launchpad is too extensive - it provides many services that we don't need and don't want to use, there is no intention to set up a new Launchpad instance as a replacement for QuickBuild. Originally I was hoping that mini-buildd could be a good replacement because it also uses reprepro + sbuild. But after an initial thorough research and testing, I found that the mini-buildd is designed with many limitations that make it unsuitable for us. It is not possible to remove these limitations, as this would require a fundamental change in the concept of mini-buildd operation. That's why I stopped further research of mini-buildd. Since I have not found any other usable existing solution, it seems that we will need to design and create our own solution here. Although it is not a high priority now, it is an important step, because the current build service is completely dependent on me. I already have some ideas, but so far there was not enough time for me to start making the first components. -- More ideas and suggestions? Because the current state of the build service has been working well for a long time - many years for PSB and PTB, starting with R14.0.7 also for official packages, I suggest to focus efforts on other migration tasks first. And leave the build service improvements for later. Do you have any other ideas and suggestions? Cheers -- Slávek

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kmix - audacity - hiss & feedback when recording
by William Morder 28 Dec '20

28 Dec '20

Just wondering if anybody else here has encountered this problem, and what to do about it. When I play an instrument through kmix, I must enable loopback mixing, but this creates a hiss in the speakers, which in turn tends to create feedback -- in particular, when I plug in a hollow-body electric guitar. This has only been a problem since I upgraded from Devuan Jessie. I used to play through my computer speakers all the time, using them like a guitar amplifier. (There is another device, a headphone amplifier, which I use as a kind of pre-amp.) But otherwise, nothing in my setup has changed, except that I have upgraded to Devuan Beowulf. I would like to get rid of that hiss, and I don't remember having to enable loopback mixing before. I have only recorded a little since upgrading (using audacity), but it doesn't seem to affect recording quality too much, because I plug headphones into my computer speakers, which eliminates both hiss & feedback problems. Sorry for the detailed presentation; feel free to snip. The main problem is kmix-trinity, and whether anything has changed between Devuan Jessie and Beowulf, namely, loopback mixing. Or have I somehow misconfigured it? Bill

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keepassx crashes - due to Qt4-TDEStyle
by William Morder 28 Dec '20

28 Dec '20

Never before had any problems with keepass or keepassx or any of its variants; not when running TDE or other desktops, not when using it on Android, etc. But now it crashes every time I try to open it. I've attached a screenshot which shows the error message. Does anybody have a clue what is the problem? Bill

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Migration of services - 10. primary archive
by Slávek Banko 23 Dec '20

23 Dec '20

Hi all, the tenth service on the migration list is the primary archive. -- Migration status -- The change of the primary archive was made before the release of R14.0.7 (in October 2019). This removed the dependency of the primary archive on QuickBuild, which made it possible to make a change in the archive layout and cleanup. The reprepro tool is now used to manage repositories of deb packages, which allows us to publish new releases very smoothly. Thanks to the use of reprepro, Contents files for apt-file are also available. Because the primary archive is too large to be placed on a tde-box or tde-vps, it is located on my home server. In order to reduce the size for the mirror system, packages of older versions are excluded. I would like to thank those who provides mirrors for our repositories, and especially Mike Bird for his efforts and attention in managing the primary mirror and overseeing the status of other mirrors. -- What needs to be done -- We may consider placing the primary archive in a hosting center - for example, by purchasing larger disks for tde-box or by increasing the space provided for tde-vps. However, it will probably be a good idea to consider such changes only after we are able to manage the project funds and accept donations. -- More ideas and suggestions? Do you have any other ideas and suggestions? Cheers -- Slávek

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