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Re: Possible bugs in Trinity Control Center - Printers and OS Installer
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 12 Nov '20

12 Nov '20

> On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 07:45:15 +0100 > "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" <office(a)klepp.biz> wrote: > > > You can print on any printer, but for zeroconf aka "magicly see the > > other printers on the net" you need "avahi" - which I ended up > > removing fom any devices, 'cause it screws up routing tables when you > > happen to be in the same as a silvery rotton tomato laptop. > > > > Nik > > In all the years I've used Linux, the only time I could access a remote > printer from another PC, was when the printer was wireless. > > Seeing CUPS accessing a printer USB-connected to the other PC, that was > definitely a first for me. :) > > ____________________________________________________ We have been using the share printer function for years. Go to localhost:631 and go to manage printers in admin. It's buried somewhere, in there, an option to share the printer. Kate

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Re: Possible bugs in Trinity Control Center - Printers and OS Installer
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 12 Nov '20

12 Nov '20

> Anno domini 2020 Thu, 12 Nov 11:34:43 -0500 > Gene Heskett via tde-users scripsit: > > On Thursday 12 November 2020 11:10:11 BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 07:45:15 +0100 > > > > > > > > "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" <office(a)klepp.biz> wrote: > > > > > You can print on any printer, but for zeroconf aka "magicly see > > > > > the other printers on the net" you need "avahi" - which I ended up > > > > > removing fom any devices, 'cause it screws up routing tables when > > > > > you happen to be in the same as a silvery rotton tomato laptop. > > > > > > > > > > Nik > > > > > > > > In all the years I've used Linux, the only time I could access a > > > > remote printer from another PC, was when the printer was wireless. > > > > > > > > Seeing CUPS accessing a printer USB-connected to the other PC, that > > > > was definitely a first for me. :) > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________ > > > > > > We have been using the share printer function for years. > > > Go to localhost:631 and go to manage printers in admin. > > > It's buried somewhere, in there, an option to share the printer. > > > > > > Kate > > That's half of it Kate, the cups installed on the clients needs to > > have "browser" enabled. Once that's done you can keep the chainsaws > > busy. Until you run out of ink or toner. > > Oh my ... that's the reason why I set up a "drop stuff here" folder on the only computer that's connected to a printer. Whenever I drop a file into it, it gets printed and deleted. > > Nik > > > > > Cheers, Gene Heskett > > > > -- Oh that's interesting. Never used that. Kate

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Re: Possible bugs in Trinity Control Center - Printers and OS Installer
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 12 Nov '20

12 Nov '20

> On Thursday 12 November 2020 11:10:11 BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote: > > > > On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 07:45:15 +0100 > > > > > > "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" <office(a)klepp.biz> wrote: > > > > You can print on any printer, but for zeroconf aka "magicly see > > > > the other printers on the net" you need "avahi" - which I ended up > > > > removing fom any devices, 'cause it screws up routing tables when > > > > you happen to be in the same as a silvery rotton tomato laptop. > > > > > > > > Nik > > > > > > In all the years I've used Linux, the only time I could access a > > > remote printer from another PC, was when the printer was wireless. > > > > > > Seeing CUPS accessing a printer USB-connected to the other PC, that > > > was definitely a first for me. :) > > > > > > ____________________________________________________ > > > > We have been using the share printer function for years. > > Go to localhost:631 and go to manage printers in admin. > > It's buried somewhere, in there, an option to share the printer. > > > > Kate > That's half of it Kate, the cups installed on the clients needs to > have "browser" enabled. Once that's done you can keep the chainsaws > busy. Until you run out of ink or toner. > > Cheers, Gene Heskett > -- Well spotted. I never run out of it. I have ALL the ink in the world! Kate

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Wiki file tde.pm updated for MX/TDE Installation
by Michael 12 Nov '20

12 Nov '20

Hi All, I just updated the TDE ‘automagic’ install file for MX Linux on our wiki based on additions made by the MX dev’s. MX Linux Trinity Repository Installation Instructions https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/MX_Linux_Trinity_Repository_Installation_In… Change Log: - Added extra code to handle interactive needs. - Added more wrappers to handle debconf, pkexec, and update-grub. - The default x-session-manager will now be set/default to trinity-desktop. - - Full details: https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewtopic.php?f=100&t=60417 I tested it fairly extensively, if you have issues, please notify me. Best, Michael

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Possible bugs in Trinity Control Center - Printers and OS Installer
by Edward 12 Nov '20

12 Nov '20

I installed the PCLinuxOS Trinity Mini image to my second desktop today. Iniitially, the printer was working. When I tried to use the HP Device Manager, once the printer was added to it, it stopped working. The Control Center showed the printer was 'stopped'. The printer is an HP OfficeJet 3830. I was able to get the printer to work again by adding it a second time in the Control Center, but using a different name for it. Then, when I attempted to remove the original printer (in Administrator Mode), the original printer will disappear from the listing once 'Remove' is selected, then about 5 or 10 seconds later, it reappears in the list by itself. I have attempted three additional times in reinstalling the OS from scratch. But after each reinstall and reboot, once logged in, I went to the Printers section and the printer was still listed. On this third reinstall, the printer was physically disconnected from the computer during the re-installation of the OS, no power, no USB. Please understand that this has become frustrating. Some questions: 1. Once in Administrator Mode, why does the printer reappear by itself again, once removed? 2. Why after a fresh, new reinstall of the OS, complete with partitioning of the hard drive (?), does the printer still appear on the Printers screen when it's physically disconnected, once the system comes up after the initial reboot? If no printers are connected, it should not be showing any printers. In fact, the printer status showed: 'Idle (accepting jobs)'. I am going to attempt a fourth reinstall of the OS, but will be using Gparted to format the hard drive, prior to this re-installation.

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kworker using a lot of CPU
by Dan Youngquist 11 Nov '20

11 Nov '20

Hi all, Fresh installation of MX 19.2 (Debian 10) and TDE 14.0.9. There's a process called "kworker/0:3-events" that continually uses 30% CPU. Maybe 3 times a minute it changes to "kworker/0:3+events_freezable" for several seconds. It isn't there in XFCE; but if you start TDE, then logout and login to XFCE, it is there and continues. Any ideas what this is and how I can make it stop? -- PGP key: http://homestead-products.com/pubkey.htm

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machines spying on us - NEW thread!
by William Morder 11 Nov '20

11 Nov '20

It occurs to me that this thread is starting to go off-topic, but I am also curious to know what might happen. Thus the new thread ... On Wednesday 11 November 2020 08:50:33 Michael via tde-users wrote: > What went wrong? Do you remember the time when computers > > > > were a tool to help you, not to spy on you? > > > > > > Nik > > > > Yes, one can read about such a computer here: > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abacus > > Funny story (not), > > I was working at Dell at the time when Windows 95 was beta released (mid > ‘94 ish). The network group (being real IT geeks) did some ‘testing’ > (using the pre-cursor to wireshark) and found that if the Win95 install had > network access then Win95 1) did a full disk scan, 2) packaged that up and > sent it to a Microsoft server, and 3) deleted all traces of the disk scan. > > Why I remember it, is it amused me that they were in their lab yanking the > plug out of the wall half way through an install then sticking the drive > into another PC (Unix!) to see what Win95 was doing. > > So, probably, the last time Windows didn’t ‘spy on you’ was probably Win > 3.1. Only because it couldn't. > > Best, > Michael As soon as they could be connected, either through a network, or through "sneaker-net", or sharing information between them, that is about when they because surveillance tools. About the only way to escape them is to go back to the Stone Age and make our own tools. I got into a conversation awhile ago when somebody described Orwell as a futurist. No, I said, he was very bad at guessing about the technological side of the future; but what he did guess was that those new "computing machines" that were used in the "war effort" would soon be used for controlling citizens rather than fighting an external enemy. Orwell worked writing and broadcasting for the BBC during the war years (which he called propaganda), and had an insider's glimpse of what was in store for us in the future; the future which is now. Bill

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Restructuring of main modules in TGW
by Michele Calgaro 11 Nov '20

11 Nov '20

Hi all, for those who are not subscribed to the TDE announcements ML and use their own copy of the TDE source code, please take note of this message: https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/announcements@trin… Cheers Michele

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Re: pmount vs. udisks2
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 11 Nov '20

11 Nov '20

> Hi all! > > Is it just me or can sombody else replicate this behaviour: > > 1) pmount installed, udisks2 not installed: I get the "device inserted .."-dialog, but the device icons do not show up. Mounting and unmounting works. After removing all external devicis I still have /media/ populated with "interesting" folders, each containing one file ".creaded_by_pmount". Zhese survive a reboot, so I have to remove them by hand. > > 2) udisks2 is installed, pmount not instaled: I get the "device inserted .."-dialog, and all device icons as expected. Mounting and unmounting works. /media/ is working as expected, i.e. folders disappear when the device is removed. > > So ... save to say "install udisks2 and forget aboult pmount" ? pmount i used in exegnulinux, that's why I ran into it. > > Nik > > > -- Hi Nik I don't use pmount, so I can't speak to its behavior. udisk2, as you described, is how it works for me. udisk2, at least for me, works perfectly. However, I would wait for the remaining collective to speak. We might just learn something. Cheers, Kate

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Re: d.moat Best Home Network Security And Home Firewall Device
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 10 Nov '20

10 Nov '20

> On Tuesday 10 November 2020 06:48:00 amlidajame25(a)gmail.com wrote: > > Another commercial that has zero to do with trinity. nuke this sub. > > Cheers, Gene Heskett > -- > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > -Ed Howdershelt (Author) > If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. > - Louis D. Brandeis > Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> > ____________________________________________________ Aye captain! Kate

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