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[trinity-users] kde
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 27 Aug '20

27 Aug '20

Just installed manjaro into the ideapad flex 4 because it has touchscreen support ootb. I choose the kde version. I will never use kde again. It was clunky, slow, pointless complicated (way to many steps to do the same things I do with one click on TDE). I don't understand why they went in this direction. Ok rant over. Kate --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting

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[trinity-users] questions about upgrade to Beowulf/Buster
by William Morder via trinity-users 27 Aug '20

27 Aug '20

Okay guys, so I am stumped and confuzzled. I just did an upgrade to Devuan Beowulf (= Debian Buster), and everything went fine; except once up and running, I couldn't download more than a few of Trinity's packages. After trying different repositories, and playing with my sources list, I managed to do just a bit better, then I saved the day with some extreme voodoo using about config (scrolling through the manpages to find something that work). I ended up getting enough the Trinity packages to download by using --ignore-hold and dselect-upgrade options. I even searched out the links to deb packages on the developers' repositories, and downloaded them with wget, so that I could try forcing install using dpkg. Now at least (at last) I do have a working system which is a reasonable facsimile of my previous one, but it does seem like it ought to have been easier. For about the past three days now, I've lived in the command-line. Also I would like recommendations for a firewall that displays active connections and rules, etc., like the old Firestarter used to do. I catch all kinds of problems by noticing activity on my firewall, but now I cannot seem to find one that displays active connections, and Firestarter can no longer be hacked to make it work on a newer system. Thanks for any advice or comments, Bill --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting

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[trinity-users] New Motherboard Opinions
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 25 Aug '20

25 Aug '20

Hello Collective As I said previously, I'm rebuilding my primary computer. I've contacted several board makers and only gigabyte replied so far. Below is their offerings for threadripper cpus. I'd like opinions and why. https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Motherboard/AMD-TRX40 Thanks to all in advance, Kate --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting

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[trinity-users] How is Trinity going with musl support (more specifically with Gentoo musl)?
by Luiz Antônio 25 Aug '20

25 Aug '20

I'm thinking of switching from Arch for Gentoo musl, and i would like to know if Trinity is working with musl.

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[trinity-users] Project status report - history
by Slávek Banko 25 Aug '20

25 Aug '20

Hi all, before we get back to earlier discussions, let me take a little trip into history and summarize how the state of the project has evolved over time and what are the tasks that await us. Note: If you do not want to take a trip into history, you can wait for the subsequent e-mail with the Summary chapter. -- 2008 / 2009 -- KDE 3.5 development comes to a stop KDE 3.5 development stops. As a KDE 3.5 maintainer for Ubuntu, Tim devotes his efforts to maintaining KDE 3.5 for newer versions of KUbuntu - still under the original name KDE 3.5. Unfortunately, I do not know much about that time. Tim provides repositories that sooner or later would be found as PPAs on the official Ubuntu Launchpad. Tim provides bugtracker and mailing lists that are independent of the Ubuntu world. -- 2010 -- TDE is born! Fork KDE 3.5 is official - Trinity Desktop is here! The first version of TDE (3.5.11) is released. A branch in KDE SVN is used to manage the source code. Other services are provided and donated by Tim. Starting with release 3.5.12, Tim provides QuickBuild (a custom instance of Launchpad). Thank to this, the project has an independent environment for building packages and providing repositories for Debian like distributions. -- 2011 -- Move to TQt TDE 3.5.13 is released - the first version where the TQt interface library is used. It is decided to change the numbering for the new major release - it will be TDE R14.0.0. Work is underway to migrate from KDE SVN to TDE own GIT SCM. -- 2012 -- Development, stable and SRU releases Because TDE 3.5.13 contained many minor but also major issues, a repository was created to provide packages with backported patches from the main R14.0.0 development branch - the basis for working on a stable branch was created. Initially, only individual packages were created, but gradually all packages were added and a complete release of TDE 3.5.13.1 is created. Migration to the GIT is complete! The project has all the services on its own servers - provided and donated by Tim. There is a system of mirrors where individual mirrors are provided and donated by the owners of these mirrors. -- 2013 -- Work on upcoming R14.0.0 continues TDE 3.5.13.2 is released. Many KDE => TDE renames are being done for the upcoming R14.0.0. -- 2014 -- R14.0.0 is finally here + PSB TDE R14.0.0 is released! A base framework for major, minor and maintenance releases is established. Due to air conditioning issues on Tim's infrastructure and the temporary shutdown of some services, alternative repositories with builders independent of QuickBuild are created - repository known as Preliminary Stable Builds (PSB). The infrastructure for PSB is provided and donated by Slávek. Mirror PSB is provided and donated by Jan Černohorský (mirror.xcer.cz). The structure of official mirrors is improved to reduce overloading the connectivity of primary servers when a new version is released. Mike Bird provides and donates the primary mirror. -- 2015 -- Maintenance releases TDE R14.0.1 and R14.0.2 are released. Due to low funds, some services are shutdown on Tim's infrastructure - regular automatic creation of Ubuntu LiveCDs with TDE. Access to Nightly Builds is restricted. And there are some hardware issues with the servers on Tim's infrastructure. Slávek manages to get a VPS machine from vpsFree as a donation! This makes it possible to create a new highly optimized primary redirector. Thanks to the cache on the redirector, the process of releasing new releases has become significantly faster. It also provides a fallback server so that development and services can continue. -- 2016 -- More maintenance releases TDE R14.0.3 and R14.0.4 are released. Development is progressing steadily. Infrastructure is stable - Tim's primary site, mirrors with primary from Mike, VPS from vpsFree, Slávek's infrastructure for PSB. There are small donations from contributors. Tim is busy with other projects for most of the year. -- 2017 -- A quiet year for TDE + PTB No new release of TDE :-( Development is slow and mostly limited to keep packages into a building state. Most of the developers are very busy through the year. Nightly Builds don't work properly for a long time and due to Tim absence, it's difficult to add new distributions. Therefore the Preliminary Testing Build (PTB) repository has been set up to replace Night Builds. The packages are built on the same infrastructure as PSB. Both repositories - PSB and PTB - have now been placed on the primary redirector - VPS from vpsFree, making them more accessible and giving them some sort of official recognition. -- 2018 -- TDE lives on. TGW becomes the new developer's home TDE R14.0.5 is released - the project has not die after all! Thanks to VPS donated by vpsFree, we introduced a new development collaboration tool - TDE Gitea Workspace (TGW). This greatly improves the ability to contribute to the project and new contributors have joined. Problems with services hosted on Tim's primary infrastructure are becoming progressively bigger, causing issues to the project as a whole given only Tim can manage those services. Slávek and Michele come up with plans for an anternative TDE infrastructure should Tim be no longer available in future. -- 2019 -- New life for TDE and a new project leader! TDE R14.0.6 and R14.0.7 are released. Thanks to VPS donated by vpsFree, the TDE Weblate Translation Workspace (TWTW) is introduced. This greatly simplifies and improves translation work and let users translates TDE into their own languages from a browser seamlessly. Tim arranges for the donation of a new TDE box from IntegriCloud! A powerful machine on the POWER9 architecture which is fully manageable and accessible to other core project members. No more "one man weak link" in the infrastructure. Migration of services from Tim's infrastructure to the new TDE box is started. Tim agrees to pass the role of project leader to Slávek. A new primary archive is created, the layout is changed and cleaning is performed. As a result, primary archive is no longer dependent on QuickBuild as it would make it impossible to release new versions for current distributions. Reprepro is now used to manage the repositories. The official packages are now based on PSB. This also allows smoother synchronization of new releases to mirrors. The new archive is located on Slávek's home server, which maintains and donates it. -- 2020 -- TDE 10th anniversary! TDE R14.0.8 is released - we are celebrating the 10th anniversary of the first release of TDE! Although there are several tasks for migrating services from Tim's infrastructure to Integricloud's new TDE box, the services needed for development are working properly. Several new contributors to code and translations have joined and development is at its peak in the last 6 or 7 years. The project is doing well! R14.0.9 is planned for a Q4 release. Welcome back from a trip into history! A summary of the state of the infrastructure will be in the subsequent e-mail... stay tuned. Cheers -- Slávek

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[trinity-users] Review/Edit Please, Wiki: MX Linux Trinity Repository Installation Instructions
by Michael 20 Aug '20

20 Aug '20

Would someone review the changes I made to: https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/MX_Linux_Trinity_Repository_Installation_In… Typo’s?, instructions make sense?, file download works? (seems to in Firefox), file not destroyed by browser XYZ?, file is destroyed in browser XYZ? Thanks, Michael PS: Limitation of the Wiki software requires uploading the file under the wrong name. As far as I could research there is no other way to do it, but I’d gladly be wrong. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting

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[trinity-users] A near windows 10 suicide & The ideapad flex 4 of Death - A Horror Story
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 19 Aug '20

19 Aug '20

Ok, SO... A neighbour, decide to give me his ideapad flex 4, after seriously contemplating suicide rather than continue using win10. I replaced it with a thinkpad and Ali's Big Daddy PCLOS roll. He's very happy, his employer has NO idea Bob's sudden increase in productivity has anything to do with linux. So all is well. I have cleansed the ideapad of the diseased demon and installed Big Daddy PCLOS. All is well expect the touch screen doesn't work. Anyone know of any packages I need to install? I seem to have all of them. Until the ideas (pun intended) begin rolling in, I'll continue my research. Thanks in advance, Kate The Great and Terrible. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting

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[trinity-users] Vivaldi info
by Michael 19 Aug '20

19 Aug '20

Did this for a MX forum post https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=59865 , figured it'd be relevent since y'all are talking about it here as well. = = = = = Vivaldi https://vivaldi.com/ Repository Installations: https://help.vivaldi.com/article/manual-setup-vivaldi-linux-repositories/ Note: Do not use their download page, https://vivaldi.com/download/ About: https://vivaldi.com/company/ Vivaldi is owned by its employees. And we plan to keep it that way. Having no external investors gives us the freedom to listen to our users and, together with them, build the browser they deserve. From Wikipedia: Vivaldi is a freeware, cross-platform web browser developed by Vivaldi Technologies, a company founded by Opera Software co-founder and former CEO Jon Stephenson von Tetzchner and Tatsuki Tomita. It was officially launched on April 6, 2016.[10][11] Although intended for general users, it is first and foremost targeted towards technically-inclined users as well as former Opera users disgruntled by its transition from the Presto layout engine to a Chromium-based browser that resulted in the loss of many of its iconic features.[10][12] Despite also being Chromium-based, Vivaldi aims to revive the features of the Presto-based Opera with its own proprietary modifications.[13][14] As of April 2020, Vivaldi has 1.5 million active monthly users.[15] Vivaldi released a mobile (Android) beta version on September 6, 2019 and a regular release on April 22, 2020. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting

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[trinity-users] "Time To Retire" The Geezer said - Off Topic
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 19 Aug '20

19 Aug '20

On Tuesday 18 August 2020, you wrote: > Thanks Kate, > it is good to know that you are not the only one on the planet earth :) > although regarding SyncEvolution over BT, I pretend to be the only one, but > it is a different topic. > > What do you think about the Popcorn Hour? Have you used such? > I think I bought my A100 about that time ~10y ago. It is connected via > cable to the local network and can use either NFS or Samba to play movies > or music. The sound system is a dolby stereo Yamaha amplifier. I would say > the sound depends more on the amplifier and the boxes, but of course the > quality of the recorded audio plays a big role. I wouldn't say the audio > card makes a big difference, although I still have one SB in the attic the > sound of which I can not forget. > I was pointing to that one, because I think it is worth considering the > option. Especially when you think how long such a device can last. > I was looking for a replacement for that A100 few weeks ago, evaluating > also the effort to turn a RPi4 into a multimedia player, but it was just > too much work :) and still the popcorn hour beats it in terms of comfort. > > regards > I use a laptop to achieve the same results. But I see how this device might be better. I've never heard if it until now. I'll have to research it. Kate --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting

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[trinity-users] "Time To Retire" The Geezer said.
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 18 Aug '20

18 Aug '20

Me 20 year old "top of duh line" for duh day, computer has told me, he will be retiring to the TV room to become a multimedia machine and complain about how bad television has become. So it's time to build a new one. I have all the parts save for one. I want to use a soundblaster audigy like card (the one in the old geezer is 32 bit pci), I need one that will fit a modern slot. Has anyone any experience with a good SB audigy like card? Definetly want to stay with soundblaster. I would like the collective's input. No banana bread recipes please. Kate The Great and Terrible. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting

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