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Re: gmail and pop - with P.S.
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 03 Sep '20

03 Sep '20

> I sent this email earlier, but since I didn't receive my usual copy sent to > myself, it seemed that it never made it to the outside world. > > And then there was a mildy amusing incident, and a few hours of creeping > panic, but I don't want to spoil the story, so I save it for its proper > place. > > On Wednesday 02 September 2020 13:35:32 Janek Stolarek wrote: > > Three things: > > > > 1. Like others have already said, you need to enable access by unsafe apps > > in Gmail account settings. See [1]. > > > > 2. In KMail POP3 settings you might need to prefix you POP3 username with > > "recent:" (without quotes but with colon), so for example in KMail settings > > my username is entered as "recent:jwstolarek@gmail.com" (again, without > > quotes). This enables checking email by multiple mail clients (in case you > > have several machines). See [2]. Moreover, for me without the "recent:" > > prefix, instead of having access to newest emails as they come in, I would > > only see email in a batch every few hours. > > > Here is what I originally wrote: > > Whoa! That is one cool trick! It might be general knowledge for some, but it's > news to me, and I never found anything like that among suggestions in Gmail's > pages, nor on other sites who offer advice on how to for Gmail. (Doesn't work > on Zoho mail, however; just thought I'd give it a try.) At least I managed to > clear all the old emails off the server. > > > 3. Contrary to what other said, I rarely have problems caused by logining > > in from different locations. I regularly use VPN so sometimes I'll be > > checking my email from Switzerland and 5 minutes later I'm checking it from > > Canada. I have no problems in overwhelming majority of cases. > > > Yeah, I was beginning to feel like some kind of shiftless [or maybe shifty?]* > pariah, banned from Google periodically, because I have moved from my home to > the library, 15 minutes' walk from here. > > > Janek > > > > [1] https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6010255?hl=en > > [2] https://support.google.com/a/answer/6089246?hl=en > > Thanks for the tip! > > Bill > > P.S. After I implemented this change in my Gmail accounts [see above], > suddenly my wifi was disabled. I spent a few hours last night, then again > this morning, trying in vain to get it back. Then it seemed that my eth0, as > well, wasn't recognized! How can that be? > > I even started the process of reinstalling my Devuan Beowulf (a pain, but it's > much quicker now than it was when running Jessie); during setup nothing in my > network was recognized! Hardware failure?!?! Then I tried some rescue discs > and other such tools; again, nothing happening. > > The only thing I had done was to change that line in Gmail, then to check > email. Could Google really be such a Big Brother gangsta that they would > deliberately destroy my wireless and ethernet connections? > > Those jive %@! >?$#~!!!! > > At last I check my wifi antenna. (I know, it's weird to use a wifi antenna for > a desktop computer, but I built this system out of parts.) As it turns out, > somehow the USB got unplugged from the antenna itself, which is odd, because > I actually have it clamped in place, to make sure that cannot happen. I can > only imagine that I must have stepped on a wire when moving round the stand > that holds my printer; maybe just enough pressure to pull it loose. > > Well, so the moral of this story is, never let your paranoia decide the cause > of bad experiences, when your own clumsiness or stupidity can explain it. > > P.P.S. *It occurs to me that whether one is "shiftless" [unmotivated, lazy] > or "shifty" [nervous, acting guilty, moving round too much, no fixed abode, > etc.], both are bad. So is it better to be shifty or shiftless, or should one > avoid this word altogether? > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill You clearly missed the obvious conclusion and, likely, the correct answer. Science, dear boy, science. Gnomes, trolls and germlins. Clearly you have an infestation. Kate --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting

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gmail and pop
by ajh-valmer 03 Sep '20

03 Sep '20

Hello, I have aslo a Gmail account My Gmail account password works on the webmail site, But not with Kmail (TDE) (password not recognised). Everything is allright : mail, pop.gmail.com, port (995), password... Why ? Thanks, André Valmer --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting

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kmilo problem
by Dr. Nikolaus Klepp 02 Sep '20

02 Sep '20

Hi all! Now it'me having an issue :) I use kmilo for the volume control on my thinkpads. But no matter what increment value I set in tdecontrol, the volume changes +- 10%. kmilodrc has "volumeStep=1" - but that value is ignored. Is there some other setting hidden somewhere for non-thinkpads that might interfer with kmilo? Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting

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An eMail solution
by Michael 02 Sep '20

02 Sep '20

So my friends, are you willing to spend ~$25 / year? No? Hit delete now... Yes? Then why put up with Google’s or any other web mail provider’s crap? Get a VPS: [1][2] $15-$20 / year Buy a domain: $8.56 / year (.com) $5.28 / year (.com.de) $4.28 / year (.top) $2.68 / year (.loan) * $2.68 / year (.men) * $2.68 / year (.party) * $2.68 / year (.stream) * $1.28 / year (.cyou) * * lol, make sure to buy 20 years upfront! !? There is no .woman? How sexist! Mail setup: Search Fu / Server Fault Use any Linux distribution you want, just make sure to add a root conrtab to auto-update nightly. As desired, I can share the bash script I use to setup an SSH tunnel to check mail with end to end encryption along with the KMail settings to support it. Best All, Michael Links: https://porkbun.com/products/domains https://lowendbox.com/ https://www.serverhunter.com/ https://www.webhostingtalk.com/ [1] VPS Minimum Needs: 1 CPU 1 GB RAM ~20GB [2] Example Real World VPS: LEB New Website Special - 1.5GB KVM - racknerd-{snip} (04/07/2020 - 04/06/2021) $16.55 USD Location: Los Angeles DC02 (Test IP: {snip}) CPU: 2 Disk: 20GB Operating System: CentOS 7 64 Bit Extra IPv4: None ------------------------------------------------------ Sub Total: $16.55 USD Credit: $0.00 USD Total: $16.55 USD --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting

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[trinity-users] fetching photos from android phone
by Felix Miata 02 Sep '20

02 Sep '20

Does TDE have an app made for this purpose? If yes, what's it called. If not, suggest something please. -- Evolution as taught in public schools, like religion, is based on faith, not on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting

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An Entertaining Tale of Woe (and voodoo dolls)
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 01 Sep '20

01 Sep '20

One is never to old to learn... Or screw up. Ok so I'm still playing about with the Ideapad Flex 4. I reinstalled Ali's Big Daddy PCLOS distro and all the billions of packages I usually install. Then me own home built apps and scripts for multimedia stuff. Everything works, except the webcam, mic and touchscreen. The touchscreen is not hi on me list so I let it go for another day. The cam and mic, however, I need to help guide me crakmonkeys through whatever itblows nightmare they're on at the moment. This is, of course, the problem is the mic and webcam. Then it's the phone... Well, no matter what I did, I couldn't get either to work. I net searched, I load and unloaded mods, but nothing. I had sound, so why not the mic. Eventually I gave up. Annoyed by this, I went and got the Ali voodoo doll I made. I was about to poke it's wee head with a large pin when I noticed the camera button on the keyboard. "Hmm" I thought and press func and the cam button. Well silly me, it was off, as was the mic. I stabbed voodoo Ali anyway, but only once and put him away. The lesson here is to familiarize oneself with the machine and check the on off switches. Kate --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting

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Re: gmail and pop
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 01 Sep '20

01 Sep '20

> Hello, > > I have aslo a Gmail account > > My Gmail account password works on the webmail site, > > But not with Kmail (TDE) (password not recognised). > > Everything is allright : mail, pop.gmail.com, port (995), password... > > Why ? > > Thanks, > > AndrÃ© Valmer > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- It's likely your IP address changed, so it's refusing the login attempt from a "none-google" whatever. Login to your gmail via firefox or cliqz, stay there. Then try kmail again. Remember keep your web login active whilst using kmai. You may also want to check "allow 'lessor" devices" whatever it's called, in gmail settings. It's second tier authentication crappola they have. Good luck, Kate --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting

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[trinity-users] questions about upgrade to Beowulf/Buster - correction
by William Morder via trinity-users 31 Aug '20

31 Aug '20

Okay guys, so I am stumped and confuzzled. I just did an upgrade to Devuan Beowulf (= Debian Buster), and everything went fine; except once up and running, I couldn't download more than a few of Trinity's packages. After trying different repositories, and playing with my sources list, I managed to do just a bit better, then I saved the day with some extreme voodoo using about config [*I meant to say, apt-get* ... writing on auto-pilot] (scrolling through the manpages to find something that work). I ended up getting enough the Trinity packages to download by using --ignore-hold and dselect-upgrade options. I even searched out the links to deb packages on the developers' repositories, and downloaded them with wget, so that I could try forcing install using dpkg. Now at least (at last) I do have a working system which is a reasonable facsimile of my previous one, but it does seem like it ought to have been easier. For about the past three days now, I've lived in the command-line. Also I would like recommendations for a firewall that displays active connections and rules, etc., like the old Firestarter used to do. I catch all kinds of problems by noticing activity on my firewall, but now I cannot seem to find one that displays active connections, and Firestarter can no longer be hacked to make it work on a newer system. Thanks for any advice or comments, Bill --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting

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[trinity-users] Trinity with Wayland?
by Janek Stolarek 31 Aug '20

31 Aug '20

I was wondering if anyone tried running Trinity under Wayland instead of X11? Does it work? Janek --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting

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Project status report - summary
by Slávek Banko 31 Aug '20

31 Aug '20

Hi all, in the previous e-mail, we made a trip into the history of the project. Now it's time for summary information about the current state of the project infrastructure. Note: For topics we need to discuss together you can wait for a subsequent e-mail with the Tasks chapter. However, it is useful for you to have an overview of the intrastructure of the project. -- Summary -- The project infrastructure currently consists of the following parts: 1. Tim's original infrastructure. This is maintained and donated by Tim. The problem here is that only Tim can manage it and as we know, it is very difficult to get hold of Tim. Here are still some services that will either be migrated to the new TDE box donated by Integricloud or will need to be abandoned. Example of that are bugzilla and mailing lists. We will discuss these services subsequently. 2. TDE box donated by Integricloud. This is a powerful machine on Power9 architecture, which is physically located in the Integricloud hosting center. Integricloud provides its operation as a donation for us. We have full remote access to this box and all its services. Thanks to this, there are more administrators who can do maintenance. Services from Tim's infrastructure are gradually being migrated to this box. The main site, wiki, cgit has already been migrated and the original SCM has been replaced by a second instance of gitea that sync with the main TGW on vpsFree. 3. TDE VPS donated by vpsFree.org. Here we do not have a complete physical machine, but one virtual machine. It is located in the hosting center used by vspFree.org, which provides its operation as a donation to us. We have full remote access to this vps. Thanks to this, there are more administrators who can do maintenance. Initially, the main redirector was located here. Then the cache for packages was added to optimize the publishing of new releases. Subsequently, new services that were not on Tim's original infrastructure were set up on this vps - TGW and TWTW. These services currently provide the backbone of project development. 4. Slavek's home server and builders. This infrastructure is maintained and provided by Slávek. Currently, the problem is that only Slávek can manage these machines. However, for now, this does not seem to be a major problem. Services are available, packages are built and Slávek can usually be contacted well. The primary archive is located here. And several builders that are used to build deb packages. These builders are virtual machines located on various physical machines, where the unused power of these physical machines is provided for building packages. For example, the builder for ppc64el packages is located on the TDE box from Integricloud. There is a plan to move the primary archive to a separate virtual machine and builders to a separate vpn network, where it will be possible to provide access to more administrators. 5. Mike's primary mirror and other mirrors. Mike manages and donates the primary mirror, which is used to synchronize packages from the primary archive. Additional mirrors are synchronized from this primary mirror. These mirrors are maintained and donated by their owners. 6. François repository of RPM packages. In addition to deb packages, there is François, who creates, builds and provides repositories for RPM packages. These RPM packages are regularly synchronized from the source maintained and donated by François to the primary archive and cache on the primary redirector. Well, now you have an overview of what infrastructure ensures that the project can exist and grow. You can look forward to a subsequent e-mail regarding the tasks we need to discuss and solve... stay tuned. Cheers -- Slávek

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