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Re: [trinity-users] network problems in Devuan Jessie-Beowulf merged
by William Morder 21 Jun '18

21 Jun '18

On Wed June 20 2018 07:23:07 William Morder wrote: > I recently migrated from Debian Jessie to the Devuan Jessie-Beowulf merged > version. My problem is, now I cannot turn off my network, nor control the > connection at all. I was using the network-manager-tde package, which has > always worked just fine for me. I've tried all the other network managers, > and don't like how they behave. In particular, I want to set my network so > that it never connects automatically, and will only connect manually. Devuan Jessie works well but is based on Debian Jessie which is moving into LTS. Devuan Ascii works well and is based on Debian Stretch and is well supported. Devuan Beowulf is in development based on Debian Buster in development. I don't know what you mean by "Devuan Jessie-Beowulf merged version". I would not recommend Jessie as it is moving to LTS. I would not recommend Beowulf at this time except to bleeding edge users who are comfortable fixing any problems they might encounter. I would suggest you start with a working Devuan Ascii before thinking about TDE PSB. --Mike Sorry, that's totally my mistake. I've been running Debian for about a year now, but I've only been running Devuan for about a week. I am not familiar with what Devuan names correspond to the naming in Debian. I know that Devuan Ascii corresponds to Debian Stretch, and somewhere I thought I remembered that Beowulf corresponded to Jessie. Apparently they did not change the name for Jessie? At the time I was only sporadically online, had no list at hand to check, and no browsers installed so that I could look it up online. In any case, I believe I have solved my network issues (or at least found a workaround). There are some deeper issues that I will bring up in another thread. Bill

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got a puzzle
by Gene Heskett 21 Jun '18

21 Jun '18

Greetings all; I ran synaptic-pkexec this morning and got some non-sensical errors. Shut it down, and looked in /etc/apt, and found all my sources.lists had been replaced by something pointing at stevenpusser at opensusi.org. And all the changes were dated this morning. Now, I have no clue who the hell steven pusser is, but there sure as hell isn't anything on this system, an i386 wheezy install, from opensusi.org that I know about. And its all owned by root. So even after I've restored the .saved versions of everything, the .saved weren't exactly correct since the trinity entry was pointed at cz, which I was told last week was a deprecated address. So among other things I need to restore is my deb line for the trinity repo. Never having run kpackage-trinity, I thought I's see what it looked like, it was showing as installed but its not in any of the TDE menu's. And can't be found by me or root. All of this mucking with my sources list was apparently done by synaptic-pkexec. Its all datestamped today at 5:40AM locale time, which is when I tried to run synaptic-pkexe. And I can find no "arch" reference anyplace. It should be i386 for this machine. Call me puzzled. Or worse. -- Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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How to stop screen/session lock?
by Jimmy Johnson 21 Jun '18

21 Jun '18

I use my laptop for multimedia connected to external screen and run it with the lid closed, well when I close the lid the screen locks and I have to plug a external keyboard in to type the password, what a pain and it would help a lot if I can turn off screen session lock. Anybody know how to turn it off? Thanks, -- Jimmy Johnson Devuan Jessie - TDE Trinity R14.0.4 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda2 Registered Linux User #380263

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Re: Re: [trinity-users] Re: Re: TOTALLY off-topic - got a puzzle meets dinosaurs
by Kate Draven 21 Jun '18

21 Jun '18

> Sorry to disappear without a word again. I've been having network issues that > don't make sense - seemingly out of the blue. But I'll discuss this in its > own thread. > > Coffee is the first of the four food groups, the foundation of a geeky diet. > > Bill > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- Sorry to hear about your networking problems. Hopefully you don't have comcast or any of it's sub companies. I'm hearing terrible things from those who use them here. Now, onto the important stuff. I completely disagree with you on coffee being the first item in the food group. It's clearly chocolate. I feel better, Kate

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on-topic: sorting out a crash
by dep 20 Jun '18

20 Jun '18

just tried to fire up gparted to see if i can use it to resurrect some USB sticks. it has always required me to start it from the commandline, even though i have the box checked to prompt me for my password. anyway, at the commandline it now throws this error: [kcrash] TDECrash: Application 'gpartedbin-gtk-tqt-application' crashing... any guesses? dep Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com/) Secure Email. Because privacy matters.

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and the backtrace says
by dep 20 Jun '18

20 Jun '18

gpartedbin-gtk-tqt-application: No such file or directory. [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] Using host libthread_db library "/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libthread_db.so.1". 84 ../sysdeps/unix/syscall-template.S: No such file or directory. i just realized that this is probably the first time i tried to run gparted since the "upgrade" to ubuntu 16.04. any idea what packages i'm missing here? i have gpartedbin -- /usr/sbin/gpartedbin -- but nothing with gtk or tqt modifiers. dep Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com/) Secure Email. Because privacy matters.

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Re: Re: [trinity-users] TOTALLY off-topic - got a puzzle meets dinosaurs
by Kate Draven 20 Jun '18

20 Jun '18

> This post got me thinking. since Konqui the dragon is the KDE community's > animal mascot, has anyone given thought to Trinity DE having an animal > mascot? I nominate Corvus Corax (raven). I did get to eat alligator once, > but it was such a small piece, I didn't notice anything distinct about it. > It may very well taste like chicken, but I can't say for sure unless I get > a chance to eat a larger amount someday. Cheers > > On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 12:01 AM, William Morder <doctor_contendo(a)zoho.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > On Sunday 10 June 2018 20:36:31 dep wrote: > > > weird. as i was reading this just now, alton brown on "good eats" was > > > speculating whether dinosaurs would have tasted like chicken. and no, i > > am > > > not making this up. the episode is entitled "a bird in the pan," and the > > > discussion is about three minutes in. amazing coincidence. > > > > > > dep > > > > Now that is funny! I am just riffing off the top of my head. I didn't see > > the > > show, and only vaguely know it. I watch a several cooking shows, but > > that's > > not one of them. > > > > Don't they say that the crocodilians (including alligators, caimans, etc.) > > are > > basically living fossils, that haven't changed much since the time of > > dinosaurs, except to get smaller on the whole? There are people, I know, > > who > > have eaten them, so maybe there is a clue. > > > > *SNIP* > > > > > > > > > This reminds me of a DOS game I bought (for I think $5 at a > > > > computer > > > show) back in the late 1980s. It had a small install > > > > routine that > > > copied the program to the hard drive and overwrote > > > > autoexec.bat with > > > the name of the executable file. In those days > > > > autoexec.bat could > > > run to a couple of pages, with us all trying > > to > > > > make our machines a > > > little faster and getting use of memory above > > > > 640k, which was a > > > delicate thing. To say nothing of the TSR > > > > programs many of us ran. > > > Setting comspec right after we copied > > > > command.com to a RAM drive. > > > That kind of thing. So autoexec.bat > > was > > > > a nontrivial thing, and > > > turning a well-tuned machine into a > > > > single-game console was > > > troublesome. > > > > I swear, this > > mailing > > > > list is sort of like Jurassic Park: a place > > where dinosaurs still > > > > roam the earth. > > > > Bill > > They still roam the earth, Bill, > > except > > > > now we call them birds. :) I wonder if they tasted like chicken or > > > > turkey, or more gamey like pheasant? Bill > > > > And here I was, ready to pounce on the first person who was itching for a > > fight, who would try to say that mythological dragons, for instance, were > > some kind of dim memory of dinosaurs, or creative attempts to explain > > dinosaur fossils. > > > > Yes, in fact I do know that many dinosaurs (we now discover) had feathers. > > Also, humans and dinosaurs were never* living at the same time. > > > > [* At least, "never", as far as current science know. But then we also > > used to > > say that Homo sapiens never interbred with other humans, such as > > Neanderthals; and we now know that they did, and that all non-Africans > > (Europeans and Asians, mostly) have some Neanderthal genes; and that > > Neanderthals often had red hair.] > > > > Most attempts to explain mythological dragons by the backwards logic of > > referring to dinosaurs are, we find, unconsciously influenced by later > > literature - mostly science fiction and fantasy. Again, since humans were > > never around at the same time as dinosaurs, they could have no memory of > > them > > to feel the need to explain them away; and enormous dinosaur fossils, when > > they were discovered, were usually thought to be the bones of the Giants > > (that is, the Titans of Greek myth, the Vanir of Norse myth, and so on). > > > > Mythological dragons are altogether different; but if I go there, we will > > need > > to start not just a new thread, but a separate forum! > > > > It will be interesting, if we all survive long enough to witness such > > events, > > whether we can actually succeed in cloning and resurrecting extinct > > species > > from their recovered DNA. I don't know about dinosaurs as such; but I > > think > > it would be great to have woolly mammoths and some other species. And dodo > > birds would make an excellent food source, it seems. > > > > When the human race is forced to evacuate the wasteland of our future > > earth, > > and a lucky few will get to colonize other planets, maybe we can take some > > of > > our animals with us. > > > > Bill > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- Platypus, an impossible creature. Many said TDE would be dead within a year. Now, it's gaining ground to the point, I think, that some are nervous. Kate The Platypus Wrangler. PS it would be a Borg Platypus of course.

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Re: Re: [trinity-users] TOTALLY off-topic - got a puzzle meets dinosaurs & dragons
by Kate Draven 19 Jun '18

19 Jun '18

> On Monday 18 June 2018 00:26:52 Jimmy Johnson wrote: > > On 06/12/2018 09:33 PM, elcaseti wrote: > > > This post got me thinking. since Konqui the dragon is the KDE > > > community's animal mascot, has anyone given thought to Trinity DE having > > > an animal mascot? I nominate Corvus Corax (raven). I did get to eat > > > alligator once, but it was such a small piece, I didn't notice anything > > > distinct about it. It may very well taste like chicken, but I can't say > > > for sure unless I get a chance to eat a larger amount someday. Cheers > > > > No, gator does not taste like chicken, can be used as a replacement. > > Also some say snake, rabbit and squirrel taste like chicken, nope. And > > crawdad taste like crawdad. Any one of them can be used in soup, salad, > > etc. Now if you want to talk about bear, it's best cooked outside the > > house. And taste like bear and I can not compare bear to anything that > > I've eaten. :) Somebody mentioned pheasant, with wild rice stuffing is > > freaking great, I say better than chicken or turkey, if you get a chance > > give pheasant a try. > > > > I've eaten great vegan too. What I call great vegan is where you sit > > and eat great tasting food without realizing you're eating vegan. :) > > > > Cheers! > > I tasted all the others, but not alligator. (Anyway, alligators are an > endangered species, am I right? so I can live without trying it.) I also > lived in a hippie commune for a few years, where everybody was "officially" > vegetarian; which taught me how to get the most nutrition and good taste out > of a meat-free diet, as well as how to combine foods to supply enough > protein. (Read that book, *Diet for a Small Planet*, by Frances Moore Lappe.) > > What nobody knows about vegetarians, though, is that most of them are not > really very strict about it, and they sneak meat into their diet at every > opportunity. > > Bill > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- I've been a vegetarians since birth, I have never eaten animals. That's just something carnivore say to make themselves feel better. Kate Hmm wait, do politicians count as animals?

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got a puzzle OT - The last chapter
by Kate Draven 19 Jun '18

19 Jun '18

Now then lads, it's time to come to a full stop. Tomorrow it's back to the business of building the world's greatest GUI. Now off to bed with the lot of you! Gn to all Kate > I did not answer at first because I think everyone is free to believe or no= > t,=20 > but this time too much is simply wrong. > > On Wednesday 20 June 2018 02.31:18 Felix Miata wrote: > > It's not a versus. Evolution IS a religion: > > It's definitely *not* > > > http://www.dictionary.com/browse/religion?s=3Dt > > ... > > 2. a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed > > upon by a number of persons or sects:... > > > > "Evolution", as taught, is not subject to proof. > > This is wrong. Just as some may kill member of other religions although the= > irs=20 > tell them not to, I can't make sure that there are not some who "teach"=20 > evolution as a religion, but evolution is a *theory*, that itself has evolv= > ed=20 > once first proposed. It has evolved because scientific evidence has showed= > =20 > that proposed explanations did not fit to facts > > > As taught it's all based=20 > > on theories, aka beliefs.=20 > > Wrong again. A theory is driven by *facts*. It's a model that needs to be=20 > modified if it's not able to explain new facts that are discoverd.=20 > > > Micro-evolution is without question real and=20 > > provable, but micro-evolution is not taught as distinguishable from the > > other 6 types of unprovable evolution, such as that which says dinosaurs > > and man did not coexist. > > This simply comes from the fact that datation methods (which by the way use= > =20 > the same physics that are used in CERN to improve another model, which trie= > s=20 > to explain how matter is made) show that dinosaurs disappeared 65 millions= > =20 > years ago while man in its modern form is some two million years old. > > That's as if you said it is unprovable that I could not meet Darwin. > > > Technically, it's arguably true that dinosaurs=20 > > didn't, because "dinosaur" is a word originally created during the 19th > > century. Before then, the creatures since referred to as dinosaurs were > > called dragons, and there has been found much art on the walls of caves a= > nd > > elsewhere created many tens of centuries ago that indicate man was > > interacting with living dragons. > > =46rom which not a single bone has ever been found. My daughter draws a lot= > =20 > of "animals" that have never existed, and never will exit. (I admit she doe= > s=20 > not draw on a cave). > > > > then I think (or maybe, I believe) that we need to start > > > another thread, if not indeed a separate forum, list, or whatever. > > True. I doubt TDE will ever "evolve" to clear this sort of things :) > > > One of my reasons to reply was to highlight the unending inane off-topic > > threads about coffee, chocolate & dinosaurs polluting this list and its > > archive. If dinosaurs are OK, then anything should go. I'd like to see OT > > stuff keep to a minimum or less. > > =2D-=20 > Prie Dieu mais continue de nager vers le rivage. > (proverbe russe) > > Pray to God but continue to swim to the shore. > (Russian proverb) > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net > For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net > Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ > Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting > >

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Re: [trinity-users] Re: Re: got a puzzle OT
by Kate Draven 19 Jun '18

19 Jun '18

> Kate Draven wrote: > > > The Flying Spaghetti Monster is the "Deity" of the "religion" known as > > "The Pastafarians". > > > > More info here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster > > > > The Line "Heretics and unbelievers will never taste pizza or spaghetti > > again!" is just me. > > > > All hail TFSM creator of chocolate. > > The good thing is that atheists are statistically loosing ground. To be > honest both sides do know nothing about our origins, but the religious are > at least not as pathetic as the modern ideologies or parodies. > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- It was the union between the Great Potato and the FSM that gave birth to humanity. They should have used protection. There, mystery solved. Kate PS... this thread is living proof we are all mad.

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