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Thanks, guys!
by dep 12 Nov '25

12 Nov '25

I'm running R14.1.5~[DEVELOPMENT] here entirely happily. As a habit I don't run deep-in-the-woods versions, nor the urban tenement release versions, but the in-between, nice-place-in-the-suburbs-with-a-tree-lined-yard almost-ready versions of both Debian and TDE. As a result, a new release is pretty much already on my machine when it is released. And everything just works, with the exception of the desktop crashing at launch occasionally. (Everything works even then, just no wallpaper of the sort that has caused so much consternation -- solution: use a different wallpaper if wallpaper is your thing -- or in my case xplanet with realtime moon image, and no rmb menu on the desktop.) Logging out and back in usually fixes even that, which I think may be a dispute with Enlightenment, which I also keep on the machine. I should note that during the development of 14.1.5 I've gotten the worls in progress and none of them has been troublesome, so the developers are really good about catching things before they get into the wild. A side benefit, both is Debian and in TDE is that using the not-quite-ready version means that version upgrades are non-events, because I do update-upgrade at least once a week. Then again, I don't have multiple virtual desktops, just two monitors that are seen by XRandR as one 1920x2160 desktop. This could be due to my high-tech, modern, NVidia GeForce GT 1030 vid card and incredible AMD FX-8350 chip that I've only had for I think 11 years. But now I see here that I must worry about a wallpaper that apparently resides somewhere on this machine that it appears someone doesn't like. Because it makes me have to think back and try to remember if I have ever, even once since the July 1998 release of KDE-1.0, I've ever used a wallpaper at all, and except for a screenshot for Practical KDE in 1999 I don't think I have. All of which is to say, Thanks, devs! You do great work. Damn near flawless in my experience! -- dep Pictures: http://www.ipernity.com/doc/depscribe/album Column: https://ofb.biz/author/dep/

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Funny driver download story
by dep 11 Nov '25

11 Nov '25

There being OS/2 veterans here, this might ring a bell. I never did anything this awful, though I did once run up a $700 bill the month my favorite BBS subscribed to RIME. Still have my U.S. Robotics HST-Dual Standard modem, too. What a joy it was to use! https://www.theregister.com/2025/11/10/who_me/?td=rt-3a dep Pictures: http://www.ipernity.com/doc/depscribe/album Column: https://ofb.biz/author/dep/

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cursors changed since installing trixie... how to edit/revert?
by D. R. Evans 09 Nov '25

09 Nov '25

Since upgrading to trixie a few days ago, I keep being annoyed by a cosmetic change: some cursors have changed in a manner that I find both mystifying and annoying. I can't find any kind of cursor editor thingy in the TDE control panel (perhaps I'm missing something obvious?). How do I go about either manually editing cursors, or, probably better, telling the system: "in this situation use cursor Y instead of the cursor X that you're currently using"? A couple of examples of changes that I find particularly annoying: (i) hovering over a ratings star in clementine now changes the cursor from a northwest-pointing arrow to a northeast-pointing finger; (ii) hovering over a checkbox in basket, the cursor (which I think used to be a northwest-pointing arrow) is now a left-pointing finger. Doc -- Web: http://enginehousebooks.com/drevans

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Update problem on bullseye
by Thierry de Coulon 09 Nov '25

09 Nov '25

I've got an older laptop running MX-21 (bullseye based) with TDE (14.1.1 at the time). It's no more used every day and I don't want to upgrade MX or debian (at least for the time), bullseye is OK. I just wanted to update, but running apt update throws an error for TDE: KeyError: 'deps-r14' (the error message is longer but I don't know if it's useful to display here), The lines in tde.list (for psb) are exactly the same as thoses I have for my main install (except that one is running on bookworm). It's not really important as I can perfectly use 14.1.1 on that laptop, just wondering what's the explanation of this error.

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When Klicker stops working...
by Leslie Turriff 09 Nov '25

09 Nov '25

Once in a while, Kicker stops working. (See attached Klicker1.png; I place my panels on the left and right side of the screen.) Thinking that it had crashed, I tried to restart it (See Klicker2.png), but it's still running, as I realized, seeing that the applets still appear in the main panel. Can I just kill and restart it from the command line? Leslie -- Platform: Linux Distribution: openSUSE Leap 15.6 - x86_64 Desktop Environment: Trinity Qt: 3.5.0 TDE: R14.1.4 tde-config: 1.0

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TDE and starting program when logging in
by D. R. Evans 08 Nov '25

08 Nov '25

Well, this is embarrassing... Sometime, long, long ago, I somehow configured TDE so that when I log in, it automatically starts yakuake on my desktop. I now want to change the binary that is executed (I have multiple versions installed, and just want to switch to a different version of yakuake). But I can't see where I am telling TDE to run yakuake, so that I can change the command to use a different binary. I've flailed around on the web, trying to discover all the places where I might have put the command that tells TDE to run yakuake. https://www.trinitydesktop.org/faq/configure.php#idm140487997734752 says that there are "several" ways to start a program on log-in, but then lists only two, and it seems neither of those two are the one that is causing yakuake to run. So suggestions as to where I might look to see where I have this configured would be much appreciated. Doc -- Web: http://enginehousebooks.com/drevans

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Re: How to migrate mail into Kmail
by Leslie Turriff 07 Nov '25

07 Nov '25

On Friday 07 November 2025 04:01:50 Leslie Turriff wrote: I copied kmailrc, kmail.eventrc and kmailsnippertrc from a backup to my current .trinity/share/config/ (there was no kmail2rc) and restarted kmail, but I still see only the base folders (inbox, outbox, sent-mail, trash, drafts, templates) even though, when viewing kmailrc, the filters are all present. (See the attached image.) Why don't they appear in the Folder list? How can I fix this? Leslie I wonder if your problem is not that kmail "trashed" your filters but that it somehow ignores kmailrc (I don't know why however). In your OP you said "once again", but I never in over 20 years had kmail do something like that, so it seems directly linked to your settings. I haven't used SUSE in the last years (I used it when it was SuSE) so it's difficult to guess what it could be. We need someone with a deeper understanding of kmail works. I've been moving kmail's files between machines several time and ever only had to recreate the indexes and re-enter some passwords. Thierry Thierry, Thank you for your help with this. I have managed to get my filters working again; the only things missing now are my toolbar icons, which issue I will pursue in a new thread. Leslie -- Platform: Linux Distribution: openSUSE Leap 15.6 - x86_64 Desktop Environment: Trinity Qt: 3.5.0 TDE: R14.1.4 tde-config: 1.0

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How to migrate mail into Kmail
by Leslie Turriff 07 Nov '25

07 Nov '25

Once again, Kmail has trashed the filters that route mail into my subfolders. Is it safe for me to copy the list from an old copy, or will that mess up kmailrc? I can once again recreate the 178 filters manually, but that takes a long time and introduces errors. Leslie -- Platform: Linux Distribution: openSUSE Leap 15.6 - x86_64 Desktop Environment: Trinity Qt: 3.5.0 TDE: R14.1.4 tde-config: 1.0

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You guys see this?
by dep 05 Nov '25

05 Nov '25

There are several fans here, so . . . https://www.theregister.com/2025/11/05/devuan_6_excalibur_is_out/ dep Pictures: http://www.ipernity.com/doc/depscribe/album Column: https://ofb.biz/author/dep/

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Can KMail display server certificates
by Mike Bird 03 Nov '25

03 Nov '25

If a pop3 or imap SSL certificate fails (e.g. expired) KMail displays the certificate details. Is there a way for KMail to display such details for a valid certificate, e.g. to determine if expiration is close. I'm not saying that KMail should have such a feature. But if it has such a feature it would helpful to know about it as I could have used it when debugging a problem last night. Thanks, --Mike

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