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Emergency apparently over
by dep 12 Oct '21

12 Oct '21

Ran Synaptic and reinstalled great gobs of TDE -- libs, base, anything that looked as if it might be pertinent. Logged out. Logged back in. Menu restored. If this message sends, then that problem is also solved. Thanks, Mavridis! Oh, and still got the r14 errors, all three of them. In that I rarely reboot -- though they're an annoyance when I do, and they indicate something wrong -- I can live with them. btw, I don't think that I'm operating packages from different versions of TDE, though if something got dropped from the TDE distribution I suppose I'd still have an older version. -- dep Pictures: http://www.ipernity.com/doc/depscribe/album Column: https://ofb.biz/author/dep/

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Two more issues
by Edward 12 Oct '21

12 Oct '21

Where I have Firefox installed from the Ubuntuzilla repository and Chromium installed from snap, neither browser is listed when /update-alternatives --config x-www-browser/ is accessed, it only lists Konqueror. Is this correct behavior since Firefox and Chromium are not /native/ Debian packages? The other issue: I have /meteo-qt/ launching at desktop startup, this is an app(let) that when used with an API key from OpenWeather, displays the local weather with an icon. The weather information coming in from it is from my hometown, where TDE's weather applet lists the local cities that have airports and pulls in the weather from the nearest airport station. Both reports have indicated different temperatures, but I like using it. The problem here, is that meteo-qt appears to be launching at TDE startup - multiple times. I have seen as many as four of its icons on the TDE panel and I have to Exit out of the extras, leaving just one. On LXQT, it only loads in once. Is there something I can look at WRT the meteo-qt issue? Thanks again. -- TDE: 14.0.11pre Debian: 11.1 (bullseye, and64) Linux. A Continual Learning Experience.

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trying to make konversation work
by dep 10 Oct '21

10 Oct '21

Happy Sunday. Facing the alternatives of going outside on a beautiful afternoon so as to simultaneously feed the ticks and make the grass shorter or staying inside and trying to figure out what's wrong with my Konversation installation, I've chosen the latter, at least until it gets so annoying that losing blood to and gaining infection from arachnid parasites becomes more attractive. (There's a sales slogan: "Preferable to Lyme disease!") When I fire up Konversation I get a screen that says this, over and over as time passes: [quote] [11:52] [Info] Looking for server ircs://irc.libera.chat:6667... [11:52] [Error] Connection to Server ircs://irc.libera.chat lost: name lookup has failed. [11:52] [Info] Trying to reconnect to ircs://irc.libera.chat in 10 seconds. [11:53] [Info] Looking for server ircs://irc.libera.chat:6667... [11:53] [Error] Connection to Server ircs://irc.libera.chat lost: name lookup has failed. [11:53] [Info] Trying to reconnect to ircs://irc.libera.chat in 10 seconds. [11:53] [Info] Looking for server ircs://irc.libera.chat:6667... [11:53] [Error] Connection to Server ircs://irc.libera.chat lost: name lookup has failed. [11:53] [Info] Trying to reconnect to ircs://irc.libera.chat in 10 seconds. [/quote] If I kill the "connection" and go to File > Server List > Libera.Chat and click "Edit" to take a look at things, I'm first challenged for a password -- I have none -- and if I look at the details of #trinity-desktop I'm challenged for a password again -- still don't have one. I do see under "Default Identity" something called Auto Identity with a service called "nickserve" and a password of eight dots, so apparently this was set up at some point. And looking in the logs I can confirm that I've connected with (or in the case of libera.chat, at least tried to connect), to wit: [quote] konversation/logs/freenode.log freenode_#gemini-pda.log freenode_#jollamobile.log freenode_#mer-meeting.log freenode_#mer.log freenode_#nemomobile-porters.log freenode_#nemomobile.log freenode_#planer.log freenode_#sailfishos.log ircs.log libera.chat.log [/quote] It turns out that I've tried to connect to libera.chat before, according to the log, on June 24. (I don't remember doing this and can't imagine why I would have other than to fire it up and see what was there. In that this exciting experiment got ended after four minutes -- same error as above, but it might have taken me a few minutes to realize that closing it doesn't really close it, just moves it to a tiny kicker icon; RMB on that is needed to extinguish the thing.) The logs tell me that I've had no problem connecting in the pre-snit past to freenode, where the Gemini and Sailfish chat was really useful in configuring the then-new Gemini running Sailfish. Virtually instant responses, but that was because we were all trying to achieve pretty much the same goal, and as discoveries were made they became available. But I digress. What I cannot determine is whether my VPN use -- I have ProtonVPN, one of the few real VPNs, not a no-longer-working Netflix scam -- figures into it not working now. Looking at the Livera.Chat website, I see that they want irc.libera.chat, not ircs. And port 6697, not 6667. I changed these, and: [quote] [12:23] [Info] Looking for server irc://irc.libera.chat:6697... [12:23] [Error] Connection to Server irc://irc.libera.chat lost: name lookup has failed. [12:23] [Info] Trying to reconnect to irc://irc.libera.chat in 10 seconds. [12:23] [Info] Looking for server irc://irc.libera.chat:6697... [12:23] [Error] Connection to Server irc://irc.libera.chat lost: name lookup has failed. [12:23] [Info] Trying to reconnect to irc://irc.libera.chat in 10 seconds. [12:23] [Info] Looking for server irc://irc.libera.chat:6697... [12:23] [Error] Connection to Server irc://irc.libera.chat lost: name lookup has failed. [/quote] etc. This is scarcely of much importance -- if chat is going to be used to rail on, it's of minimal interest to me, But it exists and I thought I'd take a look. Of course, having anything on my machine that doesn't work irritates the hell out of me, though not as much as, say, a case of Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever. Am I doing anything in my configuration that's obviously in error? -- dep Pictures: http://www.ipernity.com/doc/depscribe/album Column: https://ofb.biz/author/dep/

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Please shuffle off with the off topic topics
by Mike Bird 09 Oct '21

09 Oct '21

Let's not annoy users and make it more difficult to search the archives. There's plenty of appropriate forums so you don't need to discuss off topic topics here. Thanks, --Mike

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TDE Matrix.org room?
by Michael 09 Oct '21

09 Oct '21

On Thursday 07 October 2021 11:05:50 am E. Liddell wrote: > On Thu, 7 Oct 2021 09:19:05 +0200 > > "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" <dr.klepp(a)gmx.at> wrote: > > Anno domini 2021 Wed, 06 Oct 14:37:41 -0500 > > > > Hunter via tde-users scripsit: > > > I think that the mailing list may not be the best way to reach users, > > > although its certainly more active than the IRC channel. As an > > > alternative, I have a TDE Matrix room if anyone is interested and it > > > needs to grow: #trinity-desktop:halogen.city > > > > I might sound ignorant, but what's a "Matrix room"? > > I assume it's an on-line venue accessible through the matrix messaging > network (see matrix.org ). Hey Hunter, I wandered around matrix.org, and it’s pretty confusing as to what it actually does. Would you mind providing some links that give a good high level summary of what this Matrix thing is? What it provides (is it some variant of forum software?)? What a person would need to do to be able to use it? And how you envision it being able to replace the TDE mailing lists? (<= I’m assuming that’s what you’re meaning.) Case in point, this https://matrix.org/docs/guides/introduction might be good for a hardcore geek, but to the average Joe Linux user it’s mostly gobbledygook. Thanks, Michael

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Centralised EU censorship blocks mails !?
by Dr. Nikolaus Klepp 08 Oct '21

08 Oct '21

Hi all! Maybe some have alredy noticed: the new EU censorship regime is randomly blocking mails to mailinglist like TDE. I just had a talk with my mail provider and it's not encouraging. e.g: My last reply to the list with the link from hunters mail (I cannot place the link in here, 'cause it blocks this mail) was blocked from sending by the providers SMTP server as spam. GMX deleted the mail without any error message. For now the filters work on the message body, not the mail headers. So my question: Can we set up a gnupgp public key to the list, so that the mails cannot be suppressed by the cencorship mail content filters? The encrypted mails can be decryptied automaticly and the fed into the mailinglist. Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ...

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Re: twin-style-suse2 for openSUSE Leap 15.2
by J Leslie Turriff 07 Oct '21

07 Oct '21

On 2021-10-05 19:04:04 Gianluca Interlandi wrote: > Thank you François and other developers for porting SUSE2 to TDE. I tried > it out and it looks nice. I just wanted to mention two things that look a > bit different from KDE3: > > 1) In twin-style-suse2 there is a thin white line around a window while in > the original KDE3 SUSE2 style there is a dark gray line that surrounds a > window giving it a feeling of depth. > > 2) In the original KDE3 style the title bar of an inactive window is light > gray while in twin-style-suse2 it is blue-grayish > > I attach a screenshot of KDE3 SUSE2 style showing the two points above. > > I wonder whether these two things can be changed by simply adjusting other > settings in TDE control center or whether it is simply the result of > porting. Nonetheless, it's minor things one can adjust to. > > Thanks a lot! TDE is a fantastic project! > > Gianluca > > On Fri, 2 Jul 2021, François Andriot via tde-users wrote: > > Le 01/07/2021 à 23:23, Gianluca Interlandi a écrit : > >> On Thu, 1 Jul 2021, François Andriot via tde-users wrote: > >>> Hello, I'm trying to build this package on opensuse 15.2, Trinity > >>> 14.0.10, and it does not build currently. > >>> > >>> I've opened a ticket: > >>> https://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/gitea/TDE/tde-common-cmake/issues > >>>/74 > >> > >> Thanks so much François for working on this. > >> > >> Gianluca > > > > Hello, thanks to Slavek's quick fix, I've managed to build the package. > > It will soon appear on mirrors for opensuse Leap 15.2 and 15.3, with name > > "trinity-twin-style-suse2". > > Other distros will follow soon. > > > > François I believe that that feature is controlled by Appearance and Themes => Window Decorations in TDE Control Center, or possibly in Appearance and Themes => Colors. And now I see that it is in Appearances and Themes => Colors. In the right pane, "Widget Color", select Active Window Frame and set your desired color by clicking on the horizontal bar below. Leslie -- Operating System: Linux Distribution: openSUSE Leap 15.3 x86_64 Desktop Environment: Trinity Qt: 3.5.0 TDE: R14.0.10 tde-config: 1.0

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Weird Kicker, Titlebar, mouse pointer behavior R14.0.11(DEVELOPMENT)
by dep 07 Oct '21

07 Oct '21

Following this morning's apt upgrades and a reboot for unrelated reasons, I've encounted unexpected behavior with parts of TDE. First, when the desktop starts, the mouse pointer normally becomes considerably smaller, reflecting the change from whatever the login screen resolution is to the TDE desktop resolution for my 1920x2160 screen, but now it stays big. The Kicker panel and its icons remain the size they've always been, but the font both for Kicker applications -- taskbar, calendar, the actual menu in KMenu -- have become minuscule. Really tiny, as in 6pt. tiny. The title bar font has also become much smaller. There are no changes I've found in the behavior of the applications themselves. In fact, when I move the mouse pointer into an application it reverts to the normally smaller size. So this appears to apply to the desktop, window decorations, and Kicker only. I've made no configuration changes. Any idea where I should look to fix what seems to have gotten broken? I presume there's some setting that the items mentioned abnove have in common, but damned if I have been able to figure out what it is. I'm running R14.0.11(DEVELOPMENT), which is pretty much always stable. -- dep Pictures: http://www.ipernity.com/doc/depscribe/album Column: https://ofb.biz/author/dep/

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[sorta solved] Re: Weird Kicker, Titlebar, mouse pointer behavior R14.0.11(DEVELOPMENT)
by dep 07 Oct '21

07 Oct '21

said dep: | Following this morning's apt upgrades and a reboot for unrelated | reasons, I've encounted unexpected behavior with parts of TDE. | | First, when the desktop starts, the mouse pointer normally becomes | considerably smaller, reflecting the change from whatever the login | screen resolution is to the TDE desktop resolution for my 1920x2160 | screen, but now it stays big. | | The Kicker panel and its icons remain the size they've always been, but | the font both for Kicker applications -- taskbar, calendar, the actual | menu in KMenu -- have become minuscule. Really tiny, as in 6pt. tiny. | The title bar font has also become much smaller. | | There are no changes I've found in the behavior of the applications | themselves. In fact, when I move the mouse pointer into an application | it reverts to the normally smaller size. So this appears to apply to the | desktop, window decorations, and Kicker only. | | I've made no configuration changes. | | Any idea where I should look to fix what seems to have gotten broken? I | presume there's some setting that the items mentioned abnove have in | common, but damned if I have been able to figure out what it is. | | I'm running R14.0.11(DEVELOPMENT), which is pretty much always stable. I changed mouse cursor themes -- I'd been using redglass because there's no reverse-color theme, alas, nor have I figured out how to make one -- and restarted TDE. Fonts returned to normal. Changed back to redglass. Restarted TDE. Mouse returned to normal. So. Would still love to know what caused the problem to begin with, though. -- dep Pictures: http://www.ipernity.com/doc/depscribe/album Column: https://ofb.biz/author/dep/

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Re: Centralised EU censorship blocks mails !?
by dep 07 Oct '21

07 Oct '21

said Gianluca Interlandi: | Just wondering, is the issue with internet service providers (ISPs) | blocking the e-mails or is it the e-mail service companies? In the | latter case, would it solve it by switching to a different e-mail | service, e.g., from GMX to gmail or similar? Oh, and handing the mail over to Google is not something that accomplishes anything that any sane person would want to have. Google, for all its "want-some-candy-little-girl?" freebies, is evil. -- dep Pictures: http://www.ipernity.com/doc/depscribe/album Column: https://ofb.biz/author/dep/

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