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Re: window manager for trinity?
by Gene Heskett 03 Dec '21

03 Dec '21

On Thu, 2 Dec, 2021 at 8:04 PM, Mike Bird <mgb-trinity(a)yosemite.net> wrote: To: users(a)trinitydesktop.org BTW, Gene. Do you have a smart phone with a camera and email? no, just a bare bones cell with probably a dead battery. I think it has a camera but a $2 pinhole. its not sharp enough to ID he perp. If so you can if you wish send a pic (not too big) of your screen to the list or to me personally when you first run into a problem and we'll try to figure it out at that point. At this point, I'm waiting for someone on the kde-pim list to tell me how to make kmail5 work. In the meantime I've been unpacking amanda backups by hand trying to recover my email corpus that goes back to about 2002, but can't get kmail5 to see it, or to connect to send. And its strange, I had a whole bunch of konsoles open when I went to bed about 4ish, but I had 12 empty workspaces when I woke up just before 10ish. Something killed everything in the notso wee hours and according to uptime it was NOT rebooted in the night. 32 gigs of memory is good, I ran memtest 2 full cycles before I did the 3rd install. Snilmerg? DIIK. --Mike ____________________________________________________ tde-users mailing list -- users(a)trinitydesktop.org<mailto:users@trinitydesktop.org> To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave(a)trinitydesktop.org<mailto:users-leave@trinitydesktop.org> Web mail archive available at https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/users@trinitydeskt…

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Re: window manager for trinity?
by Gene Heskett 03 Dec '21

03 Dec '21

On Thu, 2 Dec, 2021 at 7:06 PM, Mike Bird <mgb-trinity(a)yosemite.net> wrote: To: users(a)trinitydesktop.org On Thu December 2 2021 15:42:38 Gene Heskett wrote: > Quit yelling at me Mike. Try looking at the installer and tell me how to > > install tde from the installer. We are at the mercy of the installer which > > refused to proceed when I attempted to not install a gui desktop. Gene, Was it the standard Debian Bullseye installer or some variant and if so which? The net-installer with non-free stuff. Which mode did you run it in - expert, guided, other? Expert. Did you get to a screen similar to this? https://tecadmin.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/installing-debian11-image05… Exactly that. Did you check the last (standard utils box) and optionally (your choice) check the penultimate (ssh) box and leave all the other boxes unchecked? You especially do not want the first box (Desktop) checked if you're not installing a Desktop using this installer. gnome desktop was unchecked Is this where it "refused to proceed", if not where? What error did it give when it "refused to proceed"? It didn't, just kept looping back until I selected xfce4. --Mike ____________________________________________________ tde-users mailing list -- users(a)trinitydesktop.org<mailto:users@trinitydesktop.org> To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave(a)trinitydesktop.org<mailto:users-leave@trinitydesktop.org> Web mail archive available at https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/users@trinitydeskt…

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Re: window manager for trinity?
by Gene Heskett 03 Dec '21

03 Dec '21

On Thu, 2 Dec, 2021 at 5:56 PM, Mike Bird <mgb-trinity(a)yosemite.net> wrote: To: users(a)trinitydesktop.org On Thu December 2 2021 12:55:55 Gene Heskett wrote: > Now there are only 6 trinity packages that will install without triggering > a broken > > packages lockout. This is the 7nth bare metal install, and with the > 1.9Tbyte raid10 taking several hours to format each time, it has not been > fun. So atm I am back on kde5 and doing battle with windmills. I've not > been able to ID the cause, but if its fixed so it will install alongside > another desktop, on bullseye, please advise. Gene, What EXACTLY is the first thing that goes wrong after installing a MINIMAL Bullseye when you do PRECISELY WHAT try to install TDE? If you've already installed gdm3 or xfce4 or kde5 I don't want to know. If it's TDE you want why isn't it TDE you're installing? Quit yelling at me Mike. Try looking at the installer and tell me how to install tde from the installer. We are at the mercy of the installer which refused to proceed when I attempted to not install a gui desktop. If you want to yell at somebody, go yell at debian for not offering it. This works fine for a lot of people - I've done it dozens of times - and we don't end up with gdm3 or xfce4 or kde5 when we install TDE. If you try to rip it out later, it even threatens to remove the kernel. And TBT, I'm tired of being yelled at and chastised over what is an installer decision I have no control over even in the expert mode. --Mike ____________________________________________________ tde-users mailing list -- users(a)trinitydesktop.org<mailto:users@trinitydesktop.org> To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave(a)trinitydesktop.org<mailto:users-leave@trinitydesktop.org> Web mail archive available at https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/users@trinitydeskt…

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Re: window manager for trinity?
by Gene Heskett 02 Dec '21

02 Dec '21

On Thu, 2 Dec, 2021 at 3:34 PM, Stefan Krusche <linux(a)stefan-krusche.de> wrote: To: tde users Am Donnerstag, 2. Dezember 2021 schrieb Gene Heskett: > What again is the name of the thing that sets the window manager its > to use. tdm or trinity display manager or debian package tdm-trinity Cheers, Stefan Which cannot be installed to bullseye if there is any other xwindow stuff on the machine. This didn't used to be. I had the installer put xfce4 in for a gui, same as the stretch install on the 2T drive that killed itself, and tde installed and ran nicely alongside of xfce4 on stretch. Now there are only 6 trinity packages that will install without triggering a broken packages lockout. This is the 7nth bare metal install, and with the 1.9Tbyte raid10 taking several hours to format each time, it has not been fun. So atm I am back on kde5 and doing battle with windmills. I've not been able to ID the cause, but if its fixed so it will install alongside another desktop, on bullseye, please advise. Webmail to me is the biggest PITA ever foisted on us by macrocrap. Take care and stay well Stefan, and thank you. Gene ____________________________________________________ tde-users mailing list -- users(a)trinitydesktop.org<mailto:users@trinitydesktop.org> To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave(a)trinitydesktop.org<mailto:users-leave@trinitydesktop.org> Web mail archive available at https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/users@trinitydeskt…

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window manager for trinity?
by Gene Heskett 02 Dec '21

02 Dec '21

What again is the name of the thing that sets the window manager its to use.

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Apt repository for Devuan
by Slávek Banko 02 Dec '21

02 Dec '21

Hi all, if you are using Devuan, you may have noticed with the release of R14.0.9 that there are newly available resources generated for Devuan distribution names in the apt repository. When entering a Trinity repository into the apt sources list, you no longer need to use equivalent Debian distribution names. The packages as such remain the same for both Debian and Devuan, as we still guard to maintain independence from systemd. See https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/DevuanInstall Cheers -- Slávek

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Can't install trinity-desktop R14.0.11 on Centos 7
by system-admin＠mcavity.uibk.ac.at 02 Dec '21

02 Dec '21

yum install trinity-desktop gets following errors: ......................... * trinity-r14: mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org * trinity-r14-noarch: mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org trinity-r14 | 3.0 kB 00:00:00 trinity-r14-noarch | 3.0 kB 00:00:00 trinity-r14-noarch/primary_db FAILED http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/rpm/el7/trinity-r14/RPMS/noarc…: [Errno 14] HTTP Error 404 - Not Found Trying other mirror. ............................ http://tde-mirror.yosemite.net/trinity/rpm/el7/trinity-r14/RPMS/x86_64/repo…: [Errno 14] HTTP Error 404 - Not Found Trying other mirror. May be the directory "repodata" on the mirrors is wrong? Can you help me?

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by Gene Heskett 01 Dec '21

01 Dec '21

konsole is somethuings else that will not install.

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trinity doesn't work
by Gene Heskett 01 Dec '21

01 Dec '21

This is the 4th time I have tried to send to the list but ff wants to insist I send it to mgb. So I'm going to compose this the last time. Re the sudo -E: from wheezy thru jessie and stretch its been required since X would not allow root to use it without it, but I just went to a buster machine and I'll be dipped, it worked without the -E on a buster/xfce4 install. But I've become quite fam with "sudo chown -R gene:gene /home/gene" to fix such wonky perms because of it. Why it took debian 3 major version updates to fix it boggles my mind. Now, where was I. stuck in a one window jail cuz I can't get trinity to load and work. What I do know is that if I'm not using gdm3, I lose sudo rights as lightdm and tdm-trinity all want an admin pw and that doesn't exist. my sudo pw doesn't work. So lets start, one step at a time, what do I do to fix this? Thanks Mike, gene

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[TDE-USERS] TRINITY DOESN'T WORK
by Gene Heskett 01 Dec '21

01 Dec '21

>apt is all you need for managing Debian packages, and your choice of >non-GUI editor for editing config files. All true IF you know exactly what you want. But synaptics ability to search is worth a lot. And I use nano, a lot. sudo nano runs anywhere. As pointed out previously this is a rootless install, and I am in the sudo group. But lightdm nor tdm-trinity know that so I can't use sudo then. So something is fubar, but what? Thanks Mike, Gene

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