Sorry for top post -- having to do this on ProtonMail webmail.

Yes, my hard drive is fine. Monitor and speakers, too, as well as case, keyboard, trackball, and power supply. What led you to think that this might be a hard drive issue?

Errors survive reboot, which is

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On Saturday, June 26th, 2021 at 3:26 PM, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp office@klepp.biz wrote:

Anno domini 2021 Sat, 26 Jun 18:29:50 +0000

dep via tde-users scripsit:

...

There having been no new mail in KMail (which comes from ProtonMail via

ProtonMail Bridge) for about 12 hours, even though it has been arriving at

ProtonMail and is viewable elsewhere, I restarted KMail from a terminal,

and got:

~$ kmail

[TDE NM Backend ERROR]

[../tdecore/tdehw/networkbackends/network-manager/network-manager.cpp:1706]

Attempting to access the network-manager VPN service returned:

org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name

org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.VPN.Plugin was not provided by any .service

files

dep@dep-desktop:~$ WeaverThreadLogger: thread (ID: 1) suspended.

WeaverThreadLogger: thread (ID: 4) suspended.

WeaverThreadLogger: thread (ID: 2) suspended.

WeaverThreadLogger: thread (ID: 3) suspended.

This with TDE R14.0.11 [DEVELOPMENT] under Linux 5.4.0-77-generic on Ubuntu

20.04.

Is this abnormal behavior? If so, any idea how to fix?

your hdd is ok, is it?

Nik

...

Thanks.

dep

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I am fairly certqin that the index issue and the connection issue are unrelated, inasmuch as the inbox index goes haywire like this every so often until it forces a rebuild at startup. So not entirely unexpected. I had hoped to put out the grease fire on the stove without burning down the house, which is why I asked if a rebuild could be forced.

Failure to fetch the mail while throwing no error is new.

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On Saturday, June 26th, 2021 at 4:20 PM, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp office@klepp.biz wrote:

Anno domini 2021 Sat, 26 Jun 19:34:10 +0000

dep via tde-users scripsit:

...

Sorry for top post -- having to do this on ProtonMail webmail.

Yes, my hard drive is fine. Monitor and speakers, too, as well as case, keyboard, trackball, and power supply. What led you to think that this might be a hard drive issue?

:) I assume you had a working setup before. Now your index files have gone haywire and your mail client complains about "org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.VPN.Plugin was not provided by any .service files". If you did not do a upgrade in the last 12 hours "something" has happened. For me it'd be reason enough to take close look on the logfiles, run fsck and check my backups - probably in reverse order.

...

Errors survive reboot, which is

Yep, assumed that.

Nik

...

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On Saturday, June 26th, 2021 at 3:26 PM, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp office@klepp.biz wrote:

...

Anno domini 2021 Sat, 26 Jun 18:29:50 +0000

dep via tde-users scripsit:

...

There having been no new mail in KMail (which comes from ProtonMail via

ProtonMail Bridge) for about 12 hours, even though it has been arriving at

ProtonMail and is viewable elsewhere, I restarted KMail from a terminal,

and got:

~$ kmail

[TDE NM Backend ERROR]

[../tdecore/tdehw/networkbackends/network-manager/network-manager.cpp:1706]

Attempting to access the network-manager VPN service returned:

org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name

org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.VPN.Plugin was not provided by any .service

files

dep@dep-desktop:~$ WeaverThreadLogger: thread (ID: 1) suspended.

WeaverThreadLogger: thread (ID: 4) suspended.

WeaverThreadLogger: thread (ID: 2) suspended.

WeaverThreadLogger: thread (ID: 3) suspended.

This with TDE R14.0.11 [DEVELOPMENT] under Linux 5.4.0-77-generic on Ubuntu

20.04.

Is this abnormal behavior? If so, any idea how to fix?

your hdd is ok, is it?

Nik

...

Thanks.

dep

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On Saturday 26 June 2021 21.55:41 Mavridis Philippe wrote:

KMail output suggests to me it might have to do with KMail failing to communicate with NetworkManager and thus determine whether you are online.

Do you use NetworkManager for managing network connections? If yes, does the daemon run fine?

I could also suggest the not-so-probable scenario that this might be a DBUS issue. Is a DBus session active?

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It's funny, because I've got this this morning on a laptop. I updated and the error remained. I was about to send a message but the kmail worked again...

Thierry