23 May
2021
23 May
'21
2:21 p.m.
Hi all,
I just ran into this again: Where can I change the volume incerment/decremet value?
My situation is this:
kmix: mousewheel changes volume by 5 for the onboard soundcard, but by 10 for the PCI/USB
soundcard.
volume keys: change volume always by 10.
T60:
kmix & volume keys: I can set the inc/dec value kcontrol/system/IBM and it works as it
should.
So ... is there a way for non-thinkpads to set the volume increment/decrement value
somewhere?
Nik
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3:18 p.m.
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On 2021-05-23 16:21:05 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Hi all,
I just ran into this again: Where can I change the volume
incerment/decremet value?
My situation is this:
kmix: mousewheel changes volume by 5 for the onboard soundcard, but by 10
for the PCI/USB soundcard. volume keys: change volume always by 10.
T60:
kmix & volume keys: I can set the inc/dec value kcontrol/system/IBM and it
works as it should.
So ... is there a way for non-thinkpads to set the volume
increment/decrement value somewhere?
Nik
Would that be with ALSA, PulseAudio, or ?
Leslie
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4:10 p.m.
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Anno domini 2021 Sun, 23 May 17:18:29 -0500
J Leslie Turriff scripsit:
On 2021-05-23 16:21:05 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
ALSA
Hi all,
I just ran into this again: Where can I change the volume
incerment/decremet value?
My situation is this:
kmix: mousewheel changes volume by 5 for the onboard soundcard, but by 10
for the PCI/USB soundcard. volume keys: change volume always by 10.
T60:
kmix & volume keys: I can set the inc/dec value kcontrol/system/IBM and it
works as it should.
So ... is there a way for non-thinkpads to set the volume
increment/decrement value somewhere?
Nik
Would that be with ALSA, PulseAudio, or ?
Leslie
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New subject: [users] How to change volume increment/decrement value
said Dr. Nikolaus Klepp:
| Anno domini 2021 Sun, 23 May 17:18:29 -0500
|
| J Leslie Turriff scripsit:
| > On 2021-05-23 16:21:05 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
| > > Hi all,
| > >
| > > I just ran into this again: Where can I change the volume
| > > incerment/decremet value?
| > >
| > > My situation is this:
| > >
| > > kmix: mousewheel changes volume by 5 for the onboard soundcard, but
| > > by 10 for the PCI/USB soundcard. volume keys: change volume always
| > > by 10.
| > >
| > > T60:
| > > kmix & volume keys: I can set the inc/dec value kcontrol/system/IBM
| > > and it works as it should.
| > >
| > >
| > > So ... is there a way for non-thinkpads to set the volume
| > > increment/decrement value somewhere?
| > >
| > > Nik
| >
| > Would that be with ALSA, PulseAudio, or ?
|
| ALSA
there's the terminal-based alsamixer, or you might try this (i haven't):
https://github.com/sezanzeb/alsa-control
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7:04 p.m.
On 2021/05/24 06:21 AM, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Hi all,
I just ran into this again: Where can I change the volume incerment/decremet value?
My situation is this:
kmix: mousewheel changes volume by 5 for the onboard soundcard, but by 10 for the PCI/USB
soundcard.
volume keys: change volume always by 10.
T60:
kmix & volume keys: I can set the inc/dec value kcontrol/system/IBM and it works as
it should.
So ... is there a way for non-thinkpads to set the volume increment/decrement value
somewhere?
Nik
Hi Nik,
volume inc/dec intervals are by default 10% and 1%. ault, 1% is if you press Ctrl together
with the keys to change the
volume.
You can customize the values by editing kmilodrc and changing the values of volumeStepFast
and volumeStepSlow in the
"generic monitor" section.
https://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/gitea/TDE/tdeutils/src/branch/master/…
For some laptop model there are customized kmilo files and Thinkpad is one of them. I
guess that is why you can set the
increment on that machine but not on the other.
Cheers
Michele
9:30 p.m.
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On 2021-05-23 21:04:21 Michele Calgaro via tde-users wrote:
On 2021/05/24 06:21 AM, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
kmilo? I don't find that program.
| $ kmi<tab>
| kmines kminspector kmix kmixctrl
| @23:28:50,leslie@pinto rc=0
Leslie
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Hi all,
I just ran into this again: Where can I change the volume
incerment/decremet value?
My situation is this:
kmix: mousewheel changes volume by 5 for the onboard soundcard, but by 10
for the PCI/USB soundcard. volume keys: change volume always by 10.
T60:
kmix & volume keys: I can set the inc/dec value kcontrol/system/IBM and
it works as it should.
So ... is there a way for non-thinkpads to set the volume
increment/decrement value somewhere?
Nik
Hi Nik,
volume inc/dec intervals are by default 10% and 1%. ault, 1% is if you
press Ctrl together with the keys to change the volume.
You can customize the values by editing kmilodrc and changing the values of
volumeStepFast and volumeStepSlow in the "generic monitor" section.
https://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/gitea/TDE/tdeutils/src/branch/master/
kmilo/generic/generic_monitor.cpp#L133
For some laptop model there are customized kmilo files and Thinkpad is one
of them. I guess that is why you can set the increment on that machine but
not on the other.
Cheers
Michele 
11:27 p.m.
J Leslie Turriff wrote:
It is not a program. It is a package
Description: laptop special keys support for Trinity
KMilo lets you use the special keys on some keyboards and laptops.
.
Usually this includes volume keys and other features. Currently, KMilo
comes with plugins for Powerbooks, Thinkpads, Vaios and generic keyboards
with special keys.
.
This package is part of Trinity, as a component of the TDE utilities
module.
See the 'tde-trinity' and 'tdeutils-trinity' packages for more
information.
On 2021-05-23 21:04:21 Michele Calgaro via tde-users
wrote:
> On 2021/05/24 06:21 AM, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I just ran into this again: Where can I change the volume
> > incerment/decremet value?
> >
> > My situation is this:
> >
> > kmix: mousewheel changes volume by 5 for the onboard soundcard, but by
> > 10 for the PCI/USB soundcard. volume keys: change volume always by 10.
> >
> > T60:
> > kmix & volume keys: I can set the inc/dec value kcontrol/system/IBM and
> > it works as it should.
> >
> >
> > So ... is there a way for non-thinkpads to set the volume
> > increment/decrement value somewhere?
> >
> > Nik
>
> Hi Nik,
> volume inc/dec intervals are by default 10% and 1%. ault, 1% is if you
> press Ctrl together with the keys to change the volume.
> You can customize the values by editing kmilodrc and changing the values
> of volumeStepFast and volumeStepSlow in the "generic monitor" section.
>
https://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/gitea/TDE/tdeutils/src/branch/master/
kmilo/generic/generic_monitor.cpp#L133
For some laptop model there are customized kmilo files and Thinkpad is
one of them. I guess that is why you can set the increment on that
machine but not on the other.
Cheers
Michele
kmilo? I don't find that program.
| $ kmi<tab>
| kmines kminspector kmix kmixctrl
| @23:28:50,leslie@pinto rc=0
11:38 p.m.
New subject: [users] How to change volume increment/decrement value
On 2021-05-24 01:27:40 deloptes wrote:
J Leslie Turriff wrote:
It is not a program. It is a package
Description: laptop special keys support for Trinity
KMilo lets you use the special keys on some keyboards and laptops.
.
Usually this includes volume keys and other features. Currently, KMilo
comes with plugins for Powerbooks, Thinkpads, Vaios and generic keyboards
with special keys.
.
This package is part of Trinity, as a component of the TDE utilities
module.
See the 'tde-trinity' and 'tdeutils-trinity' packages for more
information.
Is there (maybe in the Wiki) a cross-reference list showing what components and/or
packages contain what programs?
Leslie
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On 2021-05-23 21:04:21 Michele Calgaro via
tde-users wrote:
> On 2021/05/24 06:21 AM, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I just ran into this again: Where can I change the volume
> > incerment/decremet value?
> >
> > My situation is this:
> >
> > kmix: mousewheel changes volume by 5 for the onboard soundcard, but by
> > 10 for the PCI/USB soundcard. volume keys: change volume always by 10.
> >
> > T60:
> > kmix & volume keys: I can set the inc/dec value kcontrol/system/IBM
> > and it works as it should.
> >
> >
> > So ... is there a way for non-thinkpads to set the volume
> > increment/decrement value somewhere?
> >
> > Nik
>
> Hi Nik,
> volume inc/dec intervals are by default 10% and 1%. ault, 1% is if you
> press Ctrl together with the keys to change the volume.
> You can customize the values by editing kmilodrc and changing the values
> of volumeStepFast and volumeStepSlow in the "generic monitor" section.
https://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/gitea/TDE/tdeutils/src/branch/master/
kmilo/generic/generic_monitor.cpp#L133
For some laptop model there are customized kmilo files and Thinkpad is
one of them. I guess that is why you can set the increment on that
machine but not on the other.
Cheers
Michele
kmilo? I don't find that program.
| $ kmi<tab>
| kmines kminspector kmix kmixctrl
| @23:28:50,leslie@pinto rc=0
11:47 p.m.
J Leslie Turriff wrote:
Is there (maybe in the Wiki) a cross-reference list showing what
components and/or packages contain what programs?
Again - it is not a program or set of programs but a package. Here is the
content. (I do not have the legacy package installed, but it handles
perfectly well the multimedia keys on my keyboard also on the notbooks)
$ dpkg -L kmilo-trinity
/.
/opt
/opt/trinity
/opt/trinity/lib
/opt/trinity/lib/libkmilo.so.1.0.0
/opt/trinity/lib/trinity
/opt/trinity/lib/trinity/kded_kmilod.la
/opt/trinity/lib/trinity/kded_kmilod.so
/opt/trinity/lib/trinity/kmilo_generic.la
/opt/trinity/lib/trinity/kmilo_generic.so
/opt/trinity/share
/opt/trinity/share/services
/opt/trinity/share/services/kded
/opt/trinity/share/services/kded/kmilod.desktop
/opt/trinity/share/services/kmilo
/opt/trinity/share/services/kmilo/kmilo_generic.desktop
/opt/trinity/share/servicetypes
/opt/trinity/share/servicetypes/kmilo
/opt/trinity/share/servicetypes/kmilo/kmilopluginsvc.desktop
/usr
/usr/share
/usr/share/doc
/usr/share/doc/kmilo-trinity
/usr/share/doc/kmilo-trinity/changelog.Debian.gz
/usr/share/doc/kmilo-trinity/copyright
/opt/trinity/lib/libkmilo.so.1
24 May
24 May
12:08 a.m.
On Monday 24 May 2021 08.47:30 deloptes wrote:
Again - it is not a program or set of programs but a
package.
While reading this, I wondered if kmilo could be responsible for the F2 key
not working in LibreOffice (should let me edit formulas, doesn't). But that's
not my point.
I tried to uninstall it, but it wants to remove tde-trinity...
Thierry
1:28 a.m.
Thierry de Coulon via tde-users wrote:
While reading this, I wondered if kmilo could be
responsible for the F2
key not working in LibreOffice (should let me edit formulas, doesn't). But
that's not my point.
I am not sure about it, but most likely it is not responsible, because it
handles the special keys (multimedia, brightness etc.)
I tried to uninstall it, but it wants to remove
tde-trinity...
this is OK, because tde-trinity is meta package that depends on kmilo. You
could uninstall, test and reinstall tde-trinity
1:42 a.m.
Anno domini 2021 Mon, 24 May 09:08:28 +0200
Thierry de Coulon via tde-users scripsit:
On Monday 24 May 2021 08.47:30 deloptes wrote:
Don't think so. It binds to these keys:
https://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/gitea/TDE/tdeutils/src/branch/master/…
I had the "keys-doe-interesting-stuff" some years ago with vlc, but never could
track it down. Starting with a clean user profile solved it, bit I don't know if
purging all GTK configs would also do the trick.
nik
Again - it is not a program or set of programs
but a package.
While reading this, I wondered if kmilo could be responsible for the F2 key
not working in LibreOffice (should let me edit formulas, doesn't). But that's
not my point.
I tried to uninstall it, but it wants to remove tde-trinity...
Thierry
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1:02 a.m.
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On 2021-05-24 01:47:30 deloptes wrote:
J Leslie Turriff wrote:
The reason I asked is because, while it's easy to find a file if one knows the
package,
it's hard to find the package just knowing the file.
Leslie
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list showing what
components and/or packages contain what programs?
Again - it is not a program or set of programs but a package. Here is the
content. (I do not have the legacy package installed, but it handles
perfectly well the multimedia keys on my keyboard also on the notbooks)
1:20 a.m.
J Leslie Turriff wrote:
On 2021-05-24 01:47:30 deloptes wrote:
...
The reason I asked is because, while it's easy to
find a file if one knows
the package, it's hard to find the package just knowing the file.
It is not sooo hard. For example if I want to find the package providing
/opt/trinity/lib/libkmilo.so.1
I would
$ dpkg -S /opt/trinity/lib/libkmilo.so.1
kmilo-trinity: /opt/trinity/lib/libkmilo.so.1
The main problem is to know where to look for.
Also note that the legacy package is to be used only for specific models
and can cause issues. I wouldn't use it unless I have some of the specified
models.
apt-cache show kmilo-legacy-trinity
...
In Debian the intention is that all laptops work with the generic kmilo
plugin, if you need this package please file a bug.
.
...
1:28 a.m.
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On 2021-05-25 03:20:01 deloptes wrote:
J Leslie Turriff wrote:
"The main problem is to know where to look for."
Um, that's what I said.
Leslie
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On 2021-05-24 01:47:30 deloptes wrote:
...
The reason I asked is because, while it's
easy to find a file if one
knows the package, it's hard to find the package just knowing the file.
It is not sooo hard. For example if I want to find the package providing
/opt/trinity/lib/libkmilo.so.1
I would
$ dpkg -S /opt/trinity/lib/libkmilo.so.1
kmilo-trinity: /opt/trinity/lib/libkmilo.so.1
The main problem is to know where to look for.
Also note that the legacy package is to be used only for specific models
and can cause issues. I wouldn't use it unless I have some of the specified
models.
apt-cache show kmilo-legacy-trinity
...
In Debian the intention is that all laptops work with the generic kmilo
plugin, if you need this package please file a bug.
1:11 a.m.
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On 2021-05-24 01:47:30 deloptes wrote:
J Leslie Turriff wrote:
And I see now that it's related to laptop stuff, which is probably why I never
noticed
it. zypper tells me,
| i | trinity-kmilo | Laptop special keys support for
Trinity | package
Leslie
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list showing what
components and/or packages contain what programs?
Again - it is not a program or set of programs but a package. Here is the
content. (I do not have the legacy package installed, but it handles
perfectly well the multimedia keys on my keyboard also on the notbooks)
24 May
24 May
12:07 a.m.
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Am Montag, 24. Mai 2021 schrieb J Leslie Turriff:
Is there (maybe in the Wiki) a cross-reference list
showing what
components and/or packages contain what programs?
On a Devuan system this is a method to find the package in which a
file/program is distributed:
$ apt-file search kmilo # (output trimmed)
kmilo-trinity: /opt/trinity/lib/libkmilo.so.1
kmilo-trinity: /opt/trinity/lib/libkmilo.so.1.0.0
kmilo-trinity: /opt/trinity/lib/trinity/kded_kmilod.la
kmilo-trinity: /opt/trinity/lib/trinity/kded_kmilod.so
kmilo-trinity: /opt/trinity/lib/trinity/kmilo_generic.la
kmilo-trinity: /opt/trinity/lib/trinity/kmilo_generic.so
kmilo-trinity: /opt/trinity/share/services/kded/kmilod.desktop
kmilo-trinity: /opt/trinity/share/services/kmilo/kmilo_generic.desktop
kmilo-trinity: /opt/trinity/share/servicetypes/kmilo/kmilopluginsvc.desktop
kmilo-trinity: /usr/share/doc/kmilo-trinity/changelog.Debian.gz
kmilo-trinity: /usr/share/doc/kmilo-trinity/copyright
There might be a similar tool in OpenSUSE.
HTH
Kind Regards, Stefan
25 May
25 May
1:09 a.m.
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On 2021-05-24 02:07:41 Stefan Krusche via tde-users wrote:
Am Montag, 24. Mai 2021 schrieb J Leslie Turriff:
That would be
| ● zypper search --installed-only kmilo
| Loading repository data...
| Reading installed packages...
|
| S | Name | Summary
| Type
|
---+--------------------------------+------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+--------
| i | trinity-kmilo | Laptop special keys support for
Trinity | package
| i+ | trinity-kmilo-debuginfo | Debug information for package
trinity-kmilo | package
| i | trinity-kmilo-legacy | Non-standard plugins for
KMilo | package
| i+ | trinity-kmilo-legacy-debuginfo | Debug information for package
trinity-kmilo-legacy | package
| @03:07:21,root@pinto rc=0
Leslie
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Is there (maybe in the Wiki) a cross-reference
list showing what
components and/or packages contain what programs?
On a Devuan system this is a method to find the package in which a
file/program is distributed:
$ apt-file search kmilo # (output trimmed)
kmilo-trinity: /opt/trinity/lib/libkmilo.so.1
kmilo-trinity: /opt/trinity/lib/libkmilo.so.1.0.0
kmilo-trinity: /opt/trinity/lib/trinity/kded_kmilod.la
kmilo-trinity: /opt/trinity/lib/trinity/kded_kmilod.so
kmilo-trinity: /opt/trinity/lib/trinity/kmilo_generic.la
kmilo-trinity: /opt/trinity/lib/trinity/kmilo_generic.so
kmilo-trinity: /opt/trinity/share/services/kded/kmilod.desktop
kmilo-trinity: /opt/trinity/share/services/kmilo/kmilo_generic.desktop
kmilo-trinity: /opt/trinity/share/servicetypes/kmilo/kmilopluginsvc.desktop
kmilo-trinity: /usr/share/doc/kmilo-trinity/changelog.Debian.gz
kmilo-trinity: /usr/share/doc/kmilo-trinity/copyright
There might be a similar tool in OpenSUSE.
HTH
Kind Regards, Stefan
24 May
24 May
12:02 a.m.
Anno domini 2021 Mon, 24 May 11:04:21 +0900
Michele Calgaro via tde-users scripsit:
On 2021/05/24 06:21 AM, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Hi Michele,
I have kmilo-trinity 14.1.0 installed. In the binary I find "volumeStep", but
not "volumeStepFast" or "volumeStepSlow". And I did a dist-upgrade
yesterday.
Pressing <ctrl>+<voldown> decreases by one, but <ctrl>+<volup>
brings up the volume OSD, but does nothing.
Should I revert back to 14.0.x ?
This is my ~/.trinity/share/config/kmilodrc:
[DefaultSkin]
Font=Sans,10,-1,5,75,0,0,0,0,0
ProgressFont=Sans,8,-1,5,75,0,0,0,0,0
Size=80,30
paletteBackgroundColor=100,100,100
paletteForegroundColor=200,200,200
[thinkpad]
buttonHome=/opt/trinity/bin/konqueror
buttonMail=/opt/trinity/bin/kmail
buttonSearch=/opt/trinity/bin/kfind
buttonThinkpad=/opt/trinity/bin/konsole
buttonZoom=/opt/trinity/bin/ksnapshot
run=true
softwareVolume=false
volumeStep=1
Nik
Hi all,
I just ran into this again: Where can I change the volume incerment/decremet value?
My situation is this:
kmix: mousewheel changes volume by 5 for the onboard soundcard, but by 10 for the PCI/USB
soundcard.
volume keys: change volume always by 10.
T60:
kmix & volume keys: I can set the inc/dec value kcontrol/system/IBM and it works as
it should.
So ... is there a way for non-thinkpads to set the volume increment/decrement value
somewhere?
Nik
Hi Nik,
volume inc/dec intervals are by default 10% and 1%. ault, 1% is if you press Ctrl
together with the keys to change the
volume.
You can customize the values by editing kmilodrc and changing the values of
volumeStepFast and volumeStepSlow in the
"generic monitor" section.
https://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/gitea/TDE/tdeutils/src/branch/master/…
For some laptop model there are customized kmilo files and Thinkpad is one of them. I
guess that is why you can set the
increment on that machine but not on the other.
Cheers
Michele
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7 a.m.
On 2021/05/24 04:02 PM, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
I have kmilo-trinity 14.1.0 installed. In the binary I
find "volumeStep", but not "volumeStepFast" or
"volumeStepSlow". And I did a dist-upgrade yesterday.
Pressing <ctrl>+<voldown> decreases by one, but <ctrl>+<volup>
brings up the volume OSD, but does nothing.
Should I revert back to 14.0.x ?
Hi Nik,
I don't think you need to revert back, it must be a matter of keyboard shortcut
settings. You just need to find the one
using that key combination.
Cheers
Michele
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