Has anyone figured out how to get kmail and kshowmail working with gmail again?
I'm currently using Thunderbird, which is fine but I do prefer kmail.
Kate
On Tue, 7 Jun 2022, Kate @ Borg Labs wrote:
Has anyone figured out how to get kmail and kshowmail working with gmail again?
I'm currently using Thunderbird, which is fine but I do prefer kmail.
I've seen nothing but teeth gnashing, rants, and swear words in various usenet newsgroups concerning Gmail with auth0.
If auth0 is your issue, it may not be "fun".
I'm fortunate that I can simply have gmail auto-forwarded to my real email account.
I have little use for or need of gmail.
Good luck to you!
Jonesy
On 6/7/22 14:00, Marvin Jones via tde-users wrote:
On Tue, 7 Jun 2022, Kate @ Borg Labs wrote:
Has anyone figured out how to get kmail and kshowmail working with gmail again?
I'm currently using Thunderbird, which is fine but I do prefer kmail.
I've seen nothing but teeth gnashing, rants, and swear words in various usenet newsgroups concerning Gmail with auth0.
If auth0 is your issue, it may not be "fun".
I'm fortunate that I can simply have gmail auto-forwarded to my real email account.
I have little use for or need of gmail.
Good luck to you!
Jonesy
Jonesy
You may have hit on a good idea.
Would it be possible for trinity to create it's own email service for it's users?
Kate
You may have hit on a good idea. Would it be possible for trinity to create it's own email service for
it's users?
As much as I like such an idea, it would be too much hassle to manage. I don't think the project has such resources (except if somebody else made such a service). Even the developers use their own e-mail addresses. Still, you could try your luck and discuss this with Slávek.
Getting away from GMail is something a lot of people want, but we have only so many choices. We have Proton and Tutanota which don't offer IMAP/SMTP by default, a couple other free mail services of dubious trustworthiness and then we have paid services.
This is a topic that interests me, but it's a little off-topic for this mailing list.
Meanwhile, I'm not against OAuth as such, because it has its uses (e.g. SSO), but Google's step to prohibit passwords is just sadistic. One can use Thunderbird or SeaMonkey for OAuth support (I personally still use Interlink).
I hope that OAuth support will be added at some point to KMail (along with a quicker and more intuitive account setup procedure, but that's a rant for another time).
-- Philippe
On Tue, 7 Jun 2022, Mavridis Philippe wrote:
Getting away from GMail is something a lot of people want, but we have only so many choices. We have Proton and Tutanota which don't offer IMAP/SMTP by default, a couple other free mail services of dubious trustworthiness and then we have paid services.
If you have your own domain name, let me suggest
I've been with these folks for nearly 2 decades now. Fully DKIM and SPF compliant. They are a terror on spam. Damn little gets to my INBOX.
Highly recommended.
Jonesy
On Tuesday, 7 June 2022 15:38:54 EDT Mavridis Philippe wrote:
You may have hit on a good idea. Would it be possible for trinity to create it's own email service for
it's users?
As much as I like such an idea, it would be too much hassle to manage. I
don't think the project has such resources (except if somebody
else made such a service). Even the developers use their own e-mail addresses. Still, you could try your luck and discuss this with Slávek. Getting away from GMail is something a lot of people want, but we have
only so many choices. We have Proton and Tutanota which don't offer
IMAP/SMTP by default, a couple other free mail services of dubious trustworthiness and then we have paid services.
This is a topic that interests me, but it's a little off-topic for this
mailing list.
Meanwhile, I'm not against OAuth as such, because it has its uses (e.g.
SSO), but Google's step to prohibit passwords is just sadistic. One
can use Thunderbird or SeaMonkey for OAuth support (I personally still use Interlink).
I hope that OAuth support will be added at some point to KMail (along with a quicker and more intuitive account setup procedure, but that's a rant for another time).
True, but lets not forget that it does need help. Even today at kde5, its not intuitive to navigate. Ingo needs to get better at herding cats.
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Cheers, Gene Heskett.
On Tuesday 07 June 2022 11:33:21 Kate @ Borg Labs wrote:
On 6/7/22 14:00, Marvin Jones via tde-users wrote:
On Tue, 7 Jun 2022, Kate @ Borg Labs wrote:
Has anyone figured out how to get kmail and kshowmail working with gmail again?
I'm currently using Thunderbird, which is fine but I do prefer kmail.
I've seen nothing but teeth gnashing, rants, and swear words in various usenet newsgroups concerning Gmail with auth0.
If auth0 is your issue, it may not be "fun".
I'm fortunate that I can simply have gmail auto-forwarded to my real email account.
I have little use for or need of gmail.
Good luck to you!
Jonesy
Jonesy
You may have hit on a good idea.
Would it be possible for trinity to create it's own email service for it's users?
Kate
We just had a pretty long and involved discussion of both these issues, although in slightly different form.
1. Regarding TDE starting its own email service for users: It would be too much for developers and users to take on. However, I did propose a rather vague idea about starting an email cooperative (sort of like a food coop, or other workers' cooperative). Users are also owners, and would also have to contribute not just to operating costs, but also would take on some of the work. It seems to me that something like that could work. If some people who just happen to be members of the Trinity mailing list also happen to want to start their own email cooperative, that would not be directly connected with TDE. But that is as far as I got in imagining it, as there would have to be some kind of structure, to make sure everything works, etc., etc. And we would have to own a server, or have use of a server, and there would have to be some people who can manage the technical, business and legal issues. And that's where my dream falls apart, and I wake up.
2. For that other problem: See threads that follow from the heading of "how to use Kmail with the new Google monster?" started on 25 May 2022 by the present author, myself.
What you want is here, I believe, if you can get it to work for you: https://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/answers/1672544-using-gmail
This would seem to have the best resolution for how to get Gmail to work with Kmail. (And I would be personally interested in finding an actual working solution for this issue.)
For myself, though, the solution seems to be to get another email service that does not require a telephone number to register. (A web search with ddg turned up a whole slew of them, which I have yet to sort through.) My own Gmail accounts are now totally inaccessible to myself, as the phone numbers and alternate emails associated with those accounts are no longer active, and I have had these accounts for 10+ years. Google has made the world more secure by preventing me from getting into my account at all.
Good luck! If anybody anywhere manages to get Gmail working with Kmail, I want to hear it. If there is a way to rescue a Gmail account outside those methods. Gmail tells me that they cannot verify that I am myself, even though I use the correct user name and a perversely difficult password.
Bill
On Tuesday 07 June 2022 20.00:38 Marvin Jones via tde-users wrote:
I'm fortunate that I can simply have gmail auto-forwarded to my real email account.
I do the same. There are free e-mail services that work directly from kmail (and so could be used for forwarding).
I don't want to make publicity but the Vivaldi browser offers free mail (that I use to send mail to gmail users, as gmail just blocks my private address).
Microsoft (Office 365) works too (I have such an address from work...). So maybe outlook addresses would work.
I have little use for or need of gmail.
I mostly use it to receive mail from various adresses and then send them back to my main account (I'm using their spam filter, that is quite good as a matter of fact).
Good luck to you!
Jonesy
Thierry
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On Tuesday 07 June 2022, Kate @ Borg Labs was heard to say:
Has anyone figured out how to get kmail and kshowmail working with gmail again?
One I enabled the "application password" or whatever it was called for "less secure" gmail access, Kmail has worked fine.
Sorry.
Kate
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