tde-users October 2020

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Migration of services - 5. bugzilla
by Slávek Banko 07 Dec '20

07 Dec '20

Hi all, the fifth service on the migration list is Bugzilla. For the Bugzilla, the situation is significantly different, because we need to discuss here before any steps are taken. -- Migration status -- Bugzilla is on Tim's original infrastructure. Therefore, no one else can manage the current instance. And there are various issues that we are currently unable to resolve, such as problem with login when https is used. So it definitely needs some change. -- What needs to be done -- First of all, we need to discuss and decide whether we want to continue using Bugzilla. As mentioned earlier, TGW is now used as a comprehensive workspace. And TGW contains Issues that can be used instead of bug reports in a separate Bugzilla. There are several benefits to using Issues. Above all, Issues are well integrated into the development workflow. It also provides good comfort - for example, it is possible to use comment formatting to make it more readable and clear. At the same time, it seems like a good idea to use one problem reporting tool rather than two independent ones. If we find a consensus that there is no significant reason to use Bugzilla, we need to decide how to deal with existing bug reports. There are two options: 1) Migrate Bugzilla to a new instance, which will be locked for adding new bug reports. This can be done more easily. However, the problem remains that there will continue to be two places for users to look for problem reports. 2) Migrate bug reports from Bugzilla into Issues in TGW and then stop Bugzilla completely. Although it is likely to be more difficult to do, I think it would be a better solution. -- More ideas and suggestions? What is your opinion on Bugzilla migration? Do you have any other ideas and suggestions? Cheers -- Slávek

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[trinity-users] Desktop theme regression in preliminary stable builds?
by Philip Ashmore 04 Dec '20

04 Dec '20

Hi there. Rather than file a bug which might not get noticed immediately I thought I would post here, sorry if that's not the right thing to do, but I thought it a good idea to start a thread to keep track of the issues. I'm running preliminary stable builds on bullseye/sid. The theme defaults to something from the Windows 95 time frame. I set it back to keramik, everything's back to how I want it. Manually save session, restart X and it's back to Windows 95. Konqueror has a background noise image in the detailed list view I don't remember it having before, plus the icons in the detailed list view are larger those in the tree view. The science screen saver, when activated hides all windows, shows the desktop background, and does nothing. At least the session manager doesn't crash when shutting down, which is a plus. Regards, Philip Ashmore --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting

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TDE screenshot for upcoming release
by Michele Calgaro 10 Nov '20

10 Nov '20

Hi everyone, R14.0.9 will be out very soon. I know it is a bit late for asking, but if any of you is willing to send through some screenshots of their desktop, we may include them in the release notes. Thanks in advance! Cheers Michele

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Re: [users] old spam
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 01 Nov '20

01 Nov '20

> On 2020-10-29 18:09:37 BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote: > > I use filters to catch "OT" and put them into an OT directory in kmail. > > I can them go over them at will (or delete). > > > > No problems > > > > Cheers back, > > > > Kate > > Which works, but just for posts where someone has had the foresight to insert > [OT] into the subject line. > > Leslie > -- True

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[OT] Spam
by Michael 01 Nov '20

01 Nov '20

S'Okay, we all know spam exists, and any list is going to get some... I'm also pretty sure the mods of our list delete the spammer's account immediately. So? Please? Can we agree to just delete what does get through? Best All, Michael

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Fwd: alt-tab behavior driving me nuts: switcher only shows other windows that are on the *_same screen_*
by Abe 30 Oct '20

30 Oct '20

[sorry if the below has messed-up formatting; I sent it a few days ago, but apparently the list software rejected it — without even so much as a bounce :-( — b/c I was not yet a subscriber to the list] Hello folks. First off: I _love_ TDE for keeping KDE 3.x alive. ;-) Recently, the alt-tab behavior on one of my GNU/Linux boxes has been driving me nuts: when I press alt-tab, the switcher only shows other windows that are on the *_same screen_* as the one that was active/current/front at the time I pressed alt-tab. With windows spread across two screens, this is _very_ annoying. I tried to find a way to configure this, but I did not find one. [EDIT: please read all the way to the bottom of this e-mail for additional details that I found while writing this email but _way_ after writing _this_ paragraph up to the "EDIT" marker.] Current setup on the machine in question: Debian 7.11, TDE 3.5.13.2, one video card installed, nVidia PCI-Express video card with 4 heads possible [only 2 in use], GPU seems to be an "NVS 510", nVidia proprietary driver 450.57; two monitors, both "technically" 1600x1200 ["technically" b/c one of them is "rotated", so it "looks like" 1200x1600], only 1 desktop, and Xinerama & RandR are both off according to "/var/log/Xorg.0.log". The motherboard has a VGA port on it, but I must have disabled the relevant on-board chip in the BIOS settings [or did the BIOS disable that chip by itself based on the fact that I have a video card installed and selected as "primary"?] since it`s not showing up in "lspci"`s output. From the "NVIDIA X Server Settings" program: * Server Version Number: 11.0 * Server Vendor String: The X.Org Foundation * Server Vendor Version: 1.12.4 (11204000) * NV-CONTROL Version: 1.29 * Screens: 1 From "lspci -v": 09:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation Device 0ffd (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) Subsystem: NVIDIA Corporation Device 0967 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 27 Memory at c2000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M] Memory at b0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M] Memory at c0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=32M] I/O ports at 1000 [size=128] [virtual] Expansion ROM at 000c0000 [disabled] [size=128K] Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 3 Capabilities: [68] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+ Capabilities: [78] Express Endpoint, MSI 00 Capabilities: [b4] Vendor Specific Information: Len=14 <?> Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel Capabilities: [128] Power Budgeting <?> Capabilities: [600] Vendor Specific Information: ID=0001 Rev=1 Len=024 <?> Kernel driver in use: nvidia Other "trivia": 4.13.16 self-configured kernel. PS/2 keyboard and "mouse" [trackball, really ;-)]. "Stop the presses!" ;-) : look what I found in my "~/.trinity/share/config/kwinrc" while searching through "~/.trinity/": [TabBox] TraverseAll=false ... however, when I edited that to "TraverseAll=true" and logged out and then back in [to TDE], alt-tab _still_ behaved as before. :-( I checked that the edit wasn`t overwritten, and it wasn`t. Also found in the same file, in the "[Windows]" section: AltTabStyle=KDE Should I be messing with _that_ somehow? Also: how/where should I find these settings in a GUI context? They don`t seem to be available in KControl. OK, hold on... I think I found them, in "Desktop"::"Window Behavior"::"Focus", under the section heading "Navigation". I tried turning "Traverse windows on all desktops" off, hitting "Apply", then turning it back on again and "Apply" again, but it did _not_ seem to help. :-( "The plot _thickens_!" When I switch off "Show window list while switching windows" [in "Desktop"::"Window Behavior"::"Focus", under the section heading "Navigation"], I get the following changes: * my "~/.trinity/share/config/kwinrc" now has "AltTabStyle=CDE" instead of "AltTabStyle=KDE" * alt-tab _does_ traverse windows on both screens -- but, of course, does not show visual feedback for the switcher I searched for something relevant in the Bugzilla, but I found nothing that was an exact match. I _did_ find the following, which I`m including here... #1, for "completeness", and #2, to _prove_ that I really _did_ search the Bugzilla before emailing to the list. ;-) * https://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1787 * " Include minimized system tray apps in Alt+Tab switching" How can I [at least try to] solve this problem? I _want_ the KDE-style switcher [with visual feedback], not the CDE-style "silent" and/or "invisible" one, but I _also_ want _all_ windows [or at least as many as possible, given bug #1787] from _all_ screens to be included in the switcher`s list and keyboard-selection choices. Suggestions, anybody? Regards, Abe

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Re: [trinity-users] MTP again
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 30 Oct '20

30 Oct '20

> BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote: > > > I get this msg too. I use Android File Transfer and, sometimes, gmtp. > > Konq was better but suddenly stopped working. For now, the above should > > help. > > > > Kate > > I also think it was working before. > Kate, what version of TDE are you using? > --------------------------------------------------------------------- R14.0.8

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pixel density from ksnapshot
by Jim 29 Oct '20

29 Oct '20

I was wondering if someone who has Image Magick installed and is running a newer TDE than 14.0.5 would do an experiment for me... If you create a PNG file (say, a.png) with ksnapshot, what does identify -units PixelsPerInch -format '%x,%y\n' a.png output? Thanks. Jim

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Re: [OT] Spam
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 29 Oct '20

29 Oct '20

> On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 10:59:24PM +0100, deloptes via tde-users wrote: > > > And regarding unsubscribing - everybody is free to subscribe and > > unsubscribe. There is no need to put it on the wall. > > How will we know how many potential TDE users we are driving away if > they don't tell us? > > > > And what does working at the university has to do with the TDE user list, I > > also do not understand. > > The context was being told that this mailing list is like having a job: > it's about the social chit-chat. (That doesn't sound much like the jobs > I've had. I guess some people are lucky enough to get paid to stand > around the water-cooler and gossip all day long, but most people have to > actually work.) > > > > @Janek - free your mind and enjoy the "stupidity" of day-to-day life. > > You know nothing about Janek, and you're telling him how he needs to fix > his life? Astonishing. I'm offended and that wasn't even aimed at me. > > > > The thing I enjoy more are the life stories of people I > > know. > > If you like that, you will LOVE Facebook and Twitter and other social > media. > > > -- > Steve > ____________________________________________________ OK ENOUGH. It's over. This thread is dead. I'm sorry I ever brought it up. I can't believe the snowflakery. It's over. Enough. Kate

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Re: [OT] Spam
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 29 Oct '20

29 Oct '20

> Anno domini 2020 Wed, 28 Oct 22:05:50 -0400 > BorgLabs - Kate Draven scripsit: > > > On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 10:59:24PM +0100, deloptes via tde-users wrote: > > > > > > > And regarding unsubscribing - everybody is free to subscribe and > > > > unsubscribe. There is no need to put it on the wall. > > > > > > How will we know how many potential TDE users we are driving away if > > > they don't tell us? > > > > > > > > > > And what does working at the university has to do with the TDE user list, > > I > > > > also do not understand. > > > > > > The context was being told that this mailing list is like having a job: > > > it's about the social chit-chat. (That doesn't sound much like the jobs > > > I've had. I guess some people are lucky enough to get paid to stand > > > around the water-cooler and gossip all day long, but most people have to > > > actually work.) > > > > > > > > > > @Janek - free your mind and enjoy the "stupidity" of day-to-day life. > > > > > > You know nothing about Janek, and you're telling him how he needs to fix > > > his life? Astonishing. I'm offended and that wasn't even aimed at me. > > > > > > > > > > The thing I enjoy more are the life stories of people I > > > > know. > > > > > > If you like that, you will LOVE Facebook and Twitter and other social > > > media. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Steve > > > ____________________________________________________ > > OK ENOUGH. It's over. > > > > This thread is dead. > > > > I'm sorry I ever brought it up. > > > > I can't believe the snowflakery. > > > > It's over. Enough. > > Na, sombody has to mention kittens. No thread is dead wthout kitens. So I'd suggest we fork the TDE potatatoman, give him a kitten face and ... oh, where's my cofee? > You're lovely Doc. Kate

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