- tde-users - Trinity Desktop Environment

How to ignore dependency for apt-get update
by deloptes 02 Dec '15

02 Dec '15

Hi, do you have a handy answer/link to this issue with google-chrome in TDE? I installed it forcing ignore dependency and it works just fine without this library # apt-get upgrade Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these. The following packages have unmet dependencies: google-chrome-stable : Depends: libappindicator1 but it is not installed Description-en: allow applications to export a menu into the panel A library to allow applications to export a menu into the panel. Based on KSNI it also works in KDE and will fallback to generic Systray support if none of those are available. I think there should be a way to remove the dependency from the package, I know how to do it before installation, but is there (I'm sure there is) a way to do it after the installation. Thanks in advance

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[trinity-users] starttde missing from $PATH on openSUSE 13.1
by Felix Miata 02 Dec '15

02 Dec '15

# which starttde returns (not found) executed on any vtty, but returns /opt/trinity/bin/starttde if run in Konsole. This means to start an R14 session with startx requires the fullpath as option to startx, rather clumsy. Anyone know what it would take to put it in the path? This is on my first exercise of upgrading from 3.5 to r14.0.2, which fell far short of simple or easy as expected. Nevertheless, except for absence from $PATH, all seems good. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/

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Hybrid Live Images
by Glen Cunningham 30 Nov '15

30 Nov '15

To the hardworking Devs and ISO-builders, Please, that's pretty please with sugar on top, can we have hybrid .ISOs for the expected new batch of live CDs/DVDs with TDE R14.0.2?? My reasons for asking .... 1. Many modern PCs and most laptop/netbooks do not have an optical drive. 2. I know there are utilities for writing an ISO to a USB-stick but they are not particularly user-friendly. eg. unetbootin is a total PITA. Besides a simple "sudo dd if=path-to-hybrid of=/dev/usb-stick" is trivial and works as expected. 3. Boot and run from a USB-stick is much faster than any CD/DVD so demonstrating to potential new adopters is a better experience. Thanks in antic, Glen

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downloading from quickbuild inordinately slow
by Ken Heard 25 Nov '15

25 Nov '15

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Yesterday I downloaded from ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net the upgrade to TDE 14.0.2 for wheezy. The downloading was ultimately successful, but it required approximately twelve hours to complete. On the other hand all my other downloads, including those from the debian wheezy depositaries, are super fast. I am in Thailand but have a fibre optic connection to the ISP close by and from there by satellite directly to the rest of the world. It would consequently seem that any slowdown is not at my end. Is such a low speed for downloads from quickbuild normal? Regards, Ken -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlZVHfkACgkQlNlJzOkJmTftYwCfQOfGwSx02krxdm3PFYYlsmcQ CsoAn2Qb7/xM66JP0w1i8A5YEuzK3yKF =Pryw -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Folder size !
by Baron 25 Nov '15

25 Nov '15

Hi Guys, I've just noticed a folder that I have restored from a backup only shows a size of 1Mb when I hover the mouse over it. Refreshing the desktop doesn't alter the reported size. However if I look at "Properties" it shows me the correct size of 1.3Gb. Thanks: -- Best Regards: Baron

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k3b want's a 800MB CD
by Thierry de Coulon 24 Nov '15

24 Nov '15

Hello all, I've run in a problem with k3b. I wanted to try Qt4--Fsarchiver that comes (in one form) as an Ubuntu live CD. The problem is that the image is 880 MB but k3b "sees" it as a CD. It cant't burn it on a 700 MB CD and it does not accept a raw DVD so you're stuck. The workaround for me was to use Brasero that remained from the basic Gnome install, but I wonder what, if anything, we can do to change that behaviour. Qt4-archiver does it's job by the way, and the live CD gives you a GUI environment (Unity of course...). I think I still prefer Image for Linux and the command line however. Thierry

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PclinuxOS 64 and 32bit repository
by alistair izzard 24 Nov '15

24 Nov '15

Hi I did manage to update to 14.0.2 however I get a lot of file size mismatch errors when I did so (I actually cheated to get it installed by using rpm -Uvh once the files downloaded using apt-get) and a lot of others can't update at all. I hope the list is updated soon as this is a very nice release and is faster and more stable which belies it's .0.1 increase in version Alie

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Desktop Icons
by Kate Draven 23 Nov '15

23 Nov '15

Hi When loading the desktop, trinity is centering the desktop icons. Is there a way to keep it from rearranging the icons? Locking the icons in place doesn't prevent the centering. Kate

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Webmail alternatives (was Re: [trinity-users] kmail vs gmail problem)
by Robert Peters 22 Nov '15

22 Nov '15

This is something of a change in topic: Does anyone know of any webmail providers, with less spyware and ads, as alternatives to gmail? How do Hotmail and Yahoo compare? Or even an internet service provider? Formerly I used an ISP account, but it turned out to be blocked in China, where I travelled often. Robert

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Backing Up !
by Baron 22 Nov '15

22 Nov '15

Hi Guys, Thanks for the help getting this new machine up and running. I backed up all the required bits in the old ".trinity" and simply copied them into the same place on the new machine. Apart from one missing item in "Knode" all the links and passwords were restored perfectly. Great job from the TDE team. I only have one slight dissapointment ! The new quad core AMD is not as fast as the old P4 dual core yet the performance rating suggests that it should be at least twice as fast. Subjective, I know, but ! Thanks again: -- Best Regards: Baron

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Slackware 14.1 - Trinity r14.0.1
by Jerry Nettrouer II 21 Nov '15

21 Nov '15

Greetings to those of you who like Slackware, like me, but prefer the Trinity desktop more so then the KDE4 desktop, I have completed my personal build script, for the Trinity desktop to compile and installation, on *Slackware 14.1* - using - *Trinity r14.0.1*. The source code was downloaded from the Git repository and modified to suite my needs. I hope you like it. http://www.inpito.org/Downloads/trinity-r14.0.1-inpito.tar.bz2 - 381.9 MB : md5sum f4c0caa12bcb0da77484df379e706aa4 Find More Instruction at http://www.inpito.org/trinity.php Thank you to all the other Trinity Desktop enthusiasts who have help me get this far!

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Backing up !
by Baron 20 Nov '15

20 Nov '15

Hi Guys, I need to save and transfer all my Kmail, Knode settings and passwords to a new machine running Jessie/TDE desktop. However the machine I need to transfer from is 32 bit and the new one is 64 bit, I don't know if that makes a difference. Which files do I need to copy over ? I've already done a backup of "Home" though some files didn't copy at all but I think that they were things like sockets. Thanks in advance for any help. -- Best Regards: Baron

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OT drivel
by westbound＠gmx.net 19 Nov '15

19 Nov '15

Sad how this list has degenerated to a platform for political or even "compassion" offtopic drivel. This is not doing the cause any good. This is the time to unsubscribe after years of mostly silent reading, as I am not willing to take all this ruthless spam anymore. Even sadder that not even the maintainer has any articulate opinion on this verbal contamination.

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The Last Word On The Matter
by Kate Draven 17 Nov '15

17 Nov '15

Hello All, I didn't mean to start a debate. I don't think this is the place to discuss politics or religion in any depth. That being said, I have this last thing to say. My clan is old, we have made an effort to be existentialists. I think we did a grand job of it. During our time we've come to some simple conclusions. With very few exceptions, war rarely achieves any positive goals. War services only the few. Violence is rarely an answer. The differences between a soldier and a terrorist are simple. A terrorist will take a life for his beliefs, a soldier will save a life. A soldier believes in the preservation of innocence and freedom a terrorist doesn't believe they exists. A terrorist will celebrate and bask in the death of his enemies, a soldier will morn them and see their deaths as his failure to do his duty. All children, everywhere, are innocent. Regardless of who pulled the trigger, a crime was committed. Regardless of what uniform one wears. We must defend ourselves, we must prevent our extinction, the extinction of our freedoms, our way of life, of our innocent and innocence, but not at the extinction of another. Let's spare this forum political debates. Politics has never served anyone of any value and was created by the near worthless, to serve their goals. Walk away from it and learn to live in peace. I'm sorry for the disruption I've caused, it was not my intent. I had hoped it would be clear that any life lost, is something to morn for. I still think of the girls that were kidnapped from some middle eastern school to serve as "wives". I think of the children killed in that callous drone attack. If you need to hate, hate the chess players, both of them. Not the chess pieces. Kate

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APOLOGY FOR INCOMPETENCE
by Lisi Reisz 17 Nov '15

17 Nov '15

I'm so sorry, everyone, that was meant to go privately to Steven. I am getting thoroughly incompetent in my old age and I can only apologise and ask you to use the delete button. Lisi

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Re: [trinity-users] The Last Word On The Matter
by Kate Draven 17 Nov '15

17 Nov '15

Ok full stop to all of this. Just stop. This is a forum for development of free open source software and not a plateform for political debate. Nor is my emotional sentiment. This comes to a full stop now. Kate

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Contacting people by their personal emails!
by Michael . 17 Nov '15

17 Nov '15

Because I have now been contacted via my personal email by 3 different people on this list I'm going to say to anyone who thinks it is appropriate to contact someone only to then boss them about or be rude to them you are mistaken. I'm a Trinity user and as a Trinity user I will voice my opinion regarding any topic that comes up on this list. If my opinion upsets anyone I formally tend my apology. I will not stand back however and have anyone contact me privately and have a go at me when the topics are on the list for the entire global population to see and read. If you don't like a certain discussion discussion it is your right to stay out of it, no one is forcing you to take part in it but do not contact someone privately only to call them names, tell them not to pollute a mailing list, to tell them they have led a sheltered life, etc etc etc. If you don't like what I say that's fine, comment in the discussion that is going on and express your opinion. If you can't manage that do not contact me via my personal email so no one else can read your comments.

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Let's try this again.
by Kate Draven 17 Nov '15

17 Nov '15

Ok to make it clean to Lisi and others. ALL, I did was express concern for someone on our team that I thought lived in Paris as well as for anyone who was hurt. My was an expression of compassion. Not of politics, or sides. Just compassion. Plain and simple. As for "You started it". I started nothing. All I did was care about people. This litterally will be the last time I response to any more of this. Do as you will. I'll have nothing to do with it. I do hope we can get back to the business of FOSS. Kate

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pet peeve
by Gene Heskett 16 Nov '15

16 Nov '15

Greetings all; One of the un-nessessarily difficult aspects of running linuxcnc, is how the mouse vs menu's is handled. LinuxCNC's file menu in particular has a behaviour that needs a liberal application of a LART but when I ask the developers about it I am told its whatever the window manager does. In this case chase the mouse over and click on the left hand "file" menu, which brings up a list of next operation choices, as you would expect. 2nd on the menu is "recent files". Makes perfect sense because one is often cycleing thru at least 2 file, maybe more, and several tool changes before removing that workpiece from the jig. Problem is, in order to maintain that 2nd menu, the mouse cursor must not leave the "recent files" line of text in the primary menu, else the secondary menu disappears to be replaced by the sub-menu the mouse might be traveling over, ostensibly on its way to the 2nd menu's display. Net result is that sub-menu's are popping up and disappearing as the mouse mopves, and when the pointer arrives at where the filename you wanted to click on, its not there, having been replaced by something else whose only commonality is that it belongs in the "file" menu category. 1. Clicking on the already highlighted "recent files" line of text does nothing, although one would normally expect the click to at least lock it to that function. 2. So I must pull over my chair and sit down so I can guide the mouse as it moves sideways, such that it never leaves that line of text. A 3 second click here, click on the name, done, simply is not possible. The operation can take as long as 30 seconds to get lucky and guide the mouse accurately enough not to lose the menu and get something else. Is it possible to let the mouse click select the menu, then click select the sub-menu, then click select the filename one wants without all this gingerbread popping up and derailing ones line of thought? IOW, do nothing between clicks, just check to see where the click was, totally ignoring how the mouse got to where the click was issued? Its called useability by me, and the present menu's popping in and out of existence as the mouse is moved performance is a huge hindrance to productivity. Obviously, showing the pointer moving is fine, but doing nothing else until a click is issued would be the ideal target. Is it fixable someplace? Thanks people. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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kmail vs gmail problem
by Gene Heskett 15 Nov '15

15 Nov '15

Greetings; Twice in the last 2 weeks I have been forced to reboot the machine, as it had a locked up, unkillable session of kmail showing in htop. I had hit the list reply button, only to be greeted by the spinning dumbell mouse cursor, which would spin forever. The machine was NOT stuck in a loop someplace burning up cpu's, nothing, not even kmail was showing any great cpu activity, but the process itself was unkillable. This time I was attempting to teach Bret Busby how to construct a sig separator, the \r-- \r sequence and it was one of his reply messages I was reading & tried to reply to when it locked up. This reboot took around 30 minutes because /amandatapes-1T, a terabyte drive, had not been fsck'd in 181 days, and fscking a terabyte drive, even if no errors other than severe fragmentation (62%) exist is a 30 to 45 minute process. Amanda, the backup program, /thinks/ the drive is a 30 tape, changer equiped library. (except its 10,0000% more dependable that such a mechanical monster would be, and 2% of the cost) I'd hate to think how long it will take to do a 2 terabyte drive as there is now 4 of them here at the Heskett mini-ranchette. Its difficult to buy anything smaller. I deleted the last 4 messages from him from ~/Mail/kubuntu-users/cur before I restarted kmail, knowing I'd be going thru the same hung machine procedure if I didn't. Last time I made 3 reboots trying, and finally just cleaned out the folder (a different one) before trying a 4th reboot & kmail restart. That, like this, complained about the index file being corrupted on the launch of kmail but normal operation was able to be resumed. Has anyone a clue just what gmail is doing now? Or how to fix kmail so it tolerates a message posted from their (IMNSHO) busted webmail app? This is R14.0.0.2 I believe. Last updated from Slavics? server a day back. Looks like I'll need to reboot again, I have a net caused ooops in the log, and my local network is dead although I can ping yahell. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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Perhaps not the best venue
by Kate Draven 14 Nov '15

14 Nov '15

Perhaps this is not the best venue. However, I believe we have some of us living in France. I pray you are safe. I'll keep you in me prayers, and will pray for the hostages and those who were wounded on killed in today's happening. May this all end in peace. Kate

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PCLOS updated report
by Kate Draven 10 Nov '15

10 Nov '15

Forgot to mention kipi plugins are not seen by the "qt3" or kde3 version of digikam, but is seen in the kde4 version. Also gphotoframe is spitting this little error; [kate@localhost ~]$ gphotoframe Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/gphotoframe", line 19, in <module> from gphotoframe.liststore import PhotoListStore ImportError: No module named gphotoframe.liststore So far I can't figure it out but I'm still on it. Kate

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PCLOS Happy!
by Kate Draven 09 Nov '15

09 Nov '15

I've been playing about with the latest release of PCLOS. I'm very happy with it so far. There are some things I don't know if I care for, such as HAL, but so far it hasn't bothered me or refused to open the pod bay doors. I had a little trouble with synaptic and the reps, but I'm figuring that out. Never try to figure things out when deprived of chocolate btw. I can't remember the lad's name, that put this together but cheers to you. So far so good. Sorry to took so long to get back to you on the test results but I never just do an install, I do some deep testing and mods. If it can stand up to me insanity, then it's a go. Cheers to all Kate

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Wow, over 300 new k* packages this morning
by Gene Heskett 03 Nov '15

03 Nov '15

Greetings; I hope this does not get "interesting". Things were, with the usual foibles, working well. Its all being installed now. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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TDE not reacting on camera
by Dr. Nikolaus Klepp 02 Nov '15

02 Nov '15

Hi all! I have a funny problem with a camera: "Casio Exilim", is recognised as a usb storage device, and under TDE <= 14.0.0 the camera was managed by TDEs device manager, i.e. a popup appered "New media found. What do you want to do?", just like any USB stick. After the update to 14.0.1 things have changed: usb-sticks are still managed as expected, just the camera is not. I can mount it manually (but that's not quite what the user expected). So, where should I go looking? It's debian jessie, btw. This is the log, when the camera is plugged in: Sep 18 10:17:56 t60 kernel: [ 5789.060257] usb 6-4.3: new full-speed USB device number 8 using ehci-pci Sep 18 10:17:56 t60 mtp-probe: checking bus 6, device 8: "/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1a.7/usb6/6-4/6-4.3" Sep 18 10:17:56 t60 kernel: [ 5789.156609] usb 6-4.3: New USB device found, idVendor=07cf, idProduct=1001 Sep 18 10:17:56 t60 kernel: [ 5789.156614] usb 6-4.3: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0 Sep 18 10:17:56 t60 kernel: [ 5789.156616] usb 6-4.3: Product: CASIO QV DIGITAL Sep 18 10:17:56 t60 kernel: [ 5789.156618] usb 6-4.3: Manufacturer: CASIO COMPUTER Sep 18 10:17:56 t60 kernel: [ 5789.157290] usb-storage 6-4.3:1.0: USB Mass Storage device detected Sep 18 10:17:56 t60 kernel: [ 5789.157543] usb-storage 6-4.3:1.0: Quirks match for vid 07cf pid 1001: a Sep 18 10:17:56 t60 kernel: [ 5789.157562] scsi9 : usb-storage 6-4.3:1.0 Sep 18 10:17:56 t60 mtp-probe: bus: 6, device: 8 was not an MTP device Sep 18 10:17:57 t60 kernel: [ 5790.156355] scsi 9:0:0:0: Direct-Access Casio QV DigitalCamera 1000 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2 Sep 18 10:17:57 t60 kernel: [ 5790.160426] sd 9:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0 Sep 18 10:17:57 t60 kernel: [ 5790.170969] sd 9:0:0:0: [sdc] 1995264 512-byte logical blocks: (1.02 GB/974 MiB) Sep 18 10:17:57 t60 kernel: [ 5790.171966] sd 9:0:0:0: [sdc] Write Protect is off Sep 18 10:17:57 t60 kernel: [ 5790.189001] sdc: sdc1 Sep 18 10:17:57 t60 kernel: [ 5790.201969] sd 9:0:0:0: [sdc] Attached SCSI removable disk This is an ordenary usb-stick: Sep 18 10:34:31 t60 kernel: [ 6783.480076] usb 7-2: new high-speed USB device number 4 using ehci-pci Sep 18 10:34:31 t60 kernel: [ 6783.612894] usb 7-2: New USB device found, idVendor=0204, idProduct=6025 Sep 18 10:34:31 t60 kernel: [ 6783.612900] usb 7-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 Sep 18 10:34:31 t60 kernel: [ 6783.612904] usb 7-2: Product: Flash Disk Sep 18 10:34:31 t60 kernel: [ 6783.612907] usb 7-2: Manufacturer: CBM Sep 18 10:34:31 t60 kernel: [ 6783.612910] usb 7-2: SerialNumber: 041513026D144601 Sep 18 10:34:31 t60 kernel: [ 6783.613300] usb-storage 7-2:1.0: USB Mass Storage device detected Sep 18 10:34:31 t60 kernel: [ 6783.613717] scsi11 : usb-storage 7-2:1.0 Sep 18 10:34:31 t60 mtp-probe: checking bus 7, device 4: "/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb7/7-2" Sep 18 10:34:31 t60 mtp-probe: bus: 7, device: 4 was not an MTP device Sep 18 10:34:32 t60 kernel: [ 6784.612935] scsi 11:0:0:0: Direct-Access CBM Flash Disk 5.00 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2 Sep 18 10:34:32 t60 kernel: [ 6784.617111] sd 11:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg3 type 0 Sep 18 10:34:32 t60 kernel: [ 6784.622992] sd 11:0:0:0: [sdd] 2017280 512-byte logical blocks: (1.03 GB/985 MiB) Sep 18 10:34:32 t60 kernel: [ 6784.623630] sd 11:0:0:0: [sdd] Write Protect is off Sep 18 10:34:32 t60 kernel: [ 6784.627244] sdd: sdd1 Sep 18 10:34:32 t60 kernel: [ 6784.630735] sd 11:0:0:0: [sdd] Attached SCSI removable disk Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA.

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Missing posts
by Baron 01 Nov '15

01 Nov '15

Hi Guys, I don't know if there is a problem or not with the web archives for "trinity-devel(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net" The archive is no longer ordered by date and there seems to be a lot of posts missing. Indeed looking back I haven't had a post from the "devel" list since 25th October 2015. A post I made to that list yesterday hasn't shown up either :-( -- Best Regards: Baron

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missing underscores.
by Felmon Davis 01 Nov '15

01 Nov '15

greets! took a laptop out I haven't used for about a month or so but which had been my daily machine, Thinkpad x120e. I couldn't get in via the password. I sensed the advent of senility until I determined it wasn't registering the underscore. I booted off a livecd and chrooted in, removed underscore from the pw and got in normally. I made sure the keyboard was set to US english (intl) but I still couldn't use grsync! that is, it wouldn't take the pw to my NAS which also has underscores. not sure right now what other keys were wrong. it replaces the underscore with hyphens. so I'm guessing gnome stuff got scrambled. I use Hare's exegnu. I'm on jessie. I'm hoping there's a quick command-line fix. what caused this, I don't know but I assume some hard-drive blip. f. -- Felmon Davis The clash of ideas is the sound of freedom.

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Trinity in the news
by Baron 30 Oct '15

30 Oct '15

Hi Guys, I've not been around for a week or three and have not been able to collect my magazines until today. However in "Electronics Weekly", October 14 - 20 th edition, on the front page, there is a mention of Trinity DE on the Raspberry Pi running "Q4OS Linux distribution. Quote: "Raspberry Pi has a new "Windows lookalike" operating system. Q4OS is a Linux distribution that uses the Trinity Desktop Environment, and one of it's most interesting features is that it looks like and its functionality imitates Windows based operating systems." Unfortunately the article does not mention the author of the article. -- Best Regards: Baron

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Drag and drop in Konqueror
by iadest＠o2.pl 30 Oct '15

30 Oct '15

Hello. After upgrading to Debian Jessie and TDE 14.0.1, I got problems with drag and drop between Konqueror and other non-TDE applications. For example I can't drag into FileZilla to upload file anymore. Is it a result of some modification, or maybe I forgot to install some "interoperation" package? MCbx

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key for Slávek's repository
by Lisi Reisz 30 Oct '15

30 Oct '15

I am working remotely on someone else's computer and am having trouble getting the key accepted. I have followed these instructions, looked up a few minutes ago: <quote> Packages are signed using GPG key ID A04BE668. To install the GPG key you can use any public GPG keyserver, for example: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-key A04BE668 </quote> I have tried both <quote> # apt-key adv --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-key A04BE668 </quote> and <quote> # gpg --keyserver certserver.pgp.com --recv-key A04BE668 </quote> Both have failed. "gpg no valid OpenGPG data found" Help!! I must get this sorted out urgently. I am installing Adept, and I assume that if she tries to use it, it will complain about insecurity. Lisi

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How do I remove icons from the system tray?
by Lisi Reisz 29 Oct '15

29 Oct '15

How do I remove icons from the system tray? Thanks, Lisi

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Digikam 0.9.6 selection problem
by ant 28 Oct '15

28 Oct '15

Does anyone else have the problem that Digikam 0.9.6 on Trinity R14.0.1 crashes on attempting to select an area in order to crop a .jpg? (Image - Edit - start selecting area - release mouse button -> crash) Happens on two machines here. Full crash report available if necessary... cheers anthony -- Sent from my linux system running Debian 8, desktop Trinity R14 This email is plain text, not HTML. Any attachments are either .jpg or .pdf

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Speil cheekers?
by Gene Heskett 25 Oct '15

25 Oct '15

Greetings all; How hard would it be to enable the kmail spell checker to actually save to disk that which you click on the "add to dictionary" button. All it can do is save it in memory, but if you then recheck the same msg, you have to add those same words again. I don't see a way to add a "personal" file that would enable this. So is it possible? Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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Master server status
by Timothy Pearson 15 Oct '15

15 Oct '15

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA224 All, The TDE master server has been repaired and all services should be functioning normally again. Thank you to all who donated to help defray the cost of the new CPU! Tim -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iFYEARELAAYFAlYf/1kACgkQLaxZSoRZrGFmkQDeM+fiuyh+U+KMDBqL33NG+og0 xHNrc2kwKBAaygDePQ0JhfIHZEIfbkW5sPaSt4UIZVHD8WR3FVHT0Q== =1Oqy -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Kmail distortion of headings from recent Thunderbird messages.
by Marco 15 Oct '15

15 Oct '15

Hi all, When reading messages in Kmail sent to me by (2) correspondents using Thunderbird (v38), the FROM and the TO fields of the messages are not correctly represented: the French accents in the sender's real name and in the real names in the recipient list are distorted. For example, René becomes Renc3a9. This is quite annoying when I want to reply to a list with many names with French accents. This problem does not apply to the body of message, where all accents are ok. I noticed that the problem started on August 30 where i also noticed the two correspondents upgraded to version 38 of Thunderbird for windoze. Earlier messages are ok. I have been using Kmail on my desktop computer for many years without any problems. It is the current version (1.9.10) supplied by Trinity. I use Ubuntu Precise with Trinity R 14.0.2. I tried changing character settings in 'appearance' within Kmail preferences in various combinations, with utf-8 and iso-8859-1 to no avail. Is this something that I need to set correctly in Kmail or something wrong with Tbird? My wife can read those same headings fine on her laptop using Tbird. Any ideas? Marco

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Master server updates
by Timothy Pearson 15 Oct '15

15 Oct '15

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA224 All, The master server redirection system (ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net) has been updated to remove an unnecessary client redirection. This means those of you still using the master server instead of Slavek's redirector will see faster "apt-get update" execution due to the number of required DNS lookups dropping by 1/3. Also, this message is a reminder that the master server will be going down for maintenance to install the replacement CPU tomorrow. You can follow along on the Service Alerts page (when available) here: https://trinitydesktop.org/servicealerts/ Thank you all for your financial assistance and patience! Tim -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iFYEARELAAYFAlYe8C8ACgkQLaxZSoRZrGGatwDdFSY6yICtJoqiTAK3MfvXp0ak /ENPkMRtJY4QuwDgvLDjRfjjXHB2cP9Xy23mlc9Nn1dE0+S+iMA56Q== =AMb1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Urgent money needed
by Lisi Reisz 15 Oct '15

15 Oct '15

I am probably not the best person to say this in terms of anyone listening, but perhaps the best person in view of being the one who was complaining. TDE is in urgent need of $1000.00 to keep the master server running. Its CPU is failing/has failed. I don't know the details, but Tim would no doubt supply them. If 20 people each gave £50 etc., but we all know that they won't. I can't say "it is just the cost of $WHATEVER" because i don't know US prices. For me it is the train ticket to London that I didn't have to buy at the end of September because the hospital cancelled the appointment. Come on! What have you not had to pay for/could easily forego? Do you really need two cups of coffee every morning, or a tub of icecream for lunch every day?? Perhaps now is the time to give up cigarettes? ;-) TDE can't run without servers. Of course, if someone has a top-notch server he or she is dying to donate, I am sure that Tim wouldn't say no. ;-) Lisi

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desktop-base-trinity
by Michael . 09 Oct '15

09 Oct '15

What is the difference between desktop-base (Debian's deb) and desktop-base-trinity (Trinity's deb). I did a Trinity install, over and above another DE, for a friend the other day so he could see what Trinity was and I noticed it wanted to remove desktop-base and install desktop-base-trinity instead. I didn't allow it to install desktop-base trinity and everything is working fine so I was wondering what is the need for it. Cheers. Michael.

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cheese like program in TDE?
by Gene Heskett 09 Oct '15

09 Oct '15

Greetings all; I just bought some webcams, and the std viewer for a webcam has been cheese for quite a while now. But its not part of TDE, and when I had apt-get install it, it pulled in about 23 more megabytes worth of dependencies. Didn't help, it still segfaults. So I hauled the camera to one of my milling machines, also running wheezy, installed cheese, and it Just Worked(TM). But here? No way: ===================== gene@coyote:~/Pictures/pix$ cheese (cheese:10552): Gtk-WARNING **: Attempting to add a widget with type GtkImage to a GtkToggleButton, but as a GtkBin subclass a GtkToggleButton can only contain one widget at a time; it already contains a widget of type GtkLabel (cheese:10552): Gtk-WARNING **: Attempting to add a widget with type GtkImage to a GtkToggleButton, but as a GtkBin subclass a GtkToggleButton can only contain one widget at a time; it already contains a widget of type GtkLabel (cheese:10552): Gtk-WARNING **: Attempting to add a widget with type GtkImage to a GtkToggleButton, but as a GtkBin subclass a GtkToggleButton can only contain one widget at a time; it already contains a widget of type GtkLabel (cheese:10552): Gtk-WARNING **: Attempting to add a widget with type GtkImage to a GtkButton, but as a GtkBin subclass a GtkButton can only contain one widget at a time; it already contains a widget of type GtkLabel (cheese:10552): Gtk-WARNING **: Attempting to add a widget with type GtkGrid to a GtkToggleButton, but as a GtkBin subclass a GtkToggleButton can only contain one widget at a time; it already contains a widget of type GtkLabel (cheese:10552): Gtk-WARNING **: Attempting to add a widget with type GtkImage to a GtkButton, but as a GtkBin subclass a GtkButton can only contain one widget at a time; it already contains a widget of type GtkLabel ** (cheese:10552): CRITICAL **: cheese_camera_device_get_uuid: assertion `CHEESE_IS_CAMERA_DEVICE (device)' failed Segmentation fault ======================== Does anyone know of a TDE viewer that just works for a webcam? Thanks. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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Master server status
by Timothy Pearson 08 Oct '15

08 Oct '15

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA224 All, As Lisi alluded to earlier the TDE master server is continuing to experience issues causing sporadic service outages. I believe I have traced this fault to a defective CPU package; this is the first time in well over a decade that I have actually seen a defective CPU, but the certainty of the diagnosis has grown sufficiently that I have ordered a replacement. I have dsabled some secondary services to try to reduce overall system load in the hopes that this will stabilize the remaining services until the replacement parts arrive. You can follow along on the status of the repairs at this page (when available): https://trinitydesktop.org/servicealerts/ Technical details: The TDE project makes heavy use of a rather beefy server containing G34 Opteron processors (i.e. in the $1,000 USD range _per CPU package_). I started to see various MCEs (not related to DRAM) and, much more commonly, lockups several weeks ago but assumed it was a power stability issue. Unfortunately, even after swapping the PSUs the lockups are obviously continuing, and becoming more frequent. My best guess is that this particular processor has developed a somewhat unstable L2 / L3 cache; the MCEs that I did log were similar to this: [Hardware Error]: MC2 Error: VB Data ECC or parity error. [Hardware Error]: Error Status: Corrected error, no action required. [Hardware Error]: CPU:6 (15:2:0) MC2_STATUS[Over|CE|MiscV|-|-|-|-|CECC]: [Hardware Error]: cache level: L2, tx: DATA, mem-tx: EV While it would be possible to completely shut down QuickBuild (thus taking much of the load off of the affected servers) I believe this would be detrimental to the long term existence of the project. In particular, we would lose all tinderboxing; I would effectively need to pick a specific version of Debian, make sure that a specific release of TDE works on that, and ignore all the rest. Also, the release interval would jump back up into the multi-year range due to the difficulty involved in manually assembling all of the requisite repository files. There are other somewhat obvious drawbacks as well, but just those two alone would probably kill the project. I also don't reasonably see how QuickBuild's services can be replaced by anything free in the cloud. The built TDE packages occupy several hundred gigabytes of disk space, and can easily hog dozens of build machines on multiple architectures. A long time ago (back when TDE only supported a couple of Ubuntu versions) I used the free Launchpad build service, but this project rapidly outgrew that service. It rather impedes development to have your rebuild take months to work through the public build queue... So, to summarize: QuickBuild requires powerful servers, lots of power, and loads of disk space. It is also somewhat essential to TDE's somewhat rapid release schedule, serving as a QA check and release management platform. Unfortunately that means the annual cost to run the TDE services is very high, and I don't always have the funding to eliminate all sources of downtime. Thank you to those few that have donated over the years; it has helped in a small way to keep TDE alive. As Lisi said, if everyone donated annually a relatively small amount there would be no real financial concerns and both I and Slavek would have more time to actually work on the reason we are all here -- TDE itself! Thank you, Timothy Pearson Trinity Desktop Project -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iFYEARELAAYFAlYWmYIACgkQLaxZSoRZrGGJbQDcC8KVpjjkTdNHpcq/KgrzkmsH si5WcIKxViAu6gDfXM2h1ufBHtIlp3Yi7jH7xISsY0CFQhDpMTw2NA== =3ddI -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Slávek's repository
by Lisi Reisz 08 Oct '15

08 Oct '15

I have just tried to install TDE, but have been told that Slávek's repository is not accessible. ??? I'll try Tim's for now. Lisi

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kmail, imap, ssl issue
by Greg Madden 08 Oct '15

08 Oct '15

Trying to setup a clients new email. The new client is imap, user/passwd and ssl port 993 recieving and 465 sending mails. The sending works fine, the receiving says it is checking account xxx for new mail but that is far as it goes. No error messages popup. Never used ssl/tls before do not know where to look for error mressages. Searched the trinity user archives, not much mention of imap/ssl. Thanks -- Greg M

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The updated web-site
by Lisi Reisz 07 Oct '15

07 Oct '15

I have just been looking at the updated Debian Trinity Repository Installation Instructions page. At the risk of being castigated for my over-enthusiastic vocabulary, it is great!!! Super!!! No doubt all the other pages are super too, but I am willing to take that on trust, if one is, and go to bed. Thank you, Tim. Lisi

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TDE service upgrades
by Timothy Pearson 07 Oct '15

07 Oct '15

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA224 All, This is just a quick heads-up to let you know the TDE services will be going down briefly while I diagnose and fix some lingering performance issues. Estimated service restoration is 10/07/2015 20:00 UTC. Thank you for your patience, Tim -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iFYEARELAAYFAlYVX3sACgkQLaxZSoRZrGHHyQDbBwJI1KoyZgrM1DMwetbBgM2r 4+Sl+JZF8/T0FADgyqfaOLs8Bal9SvSGlA0R8th2HcunDdWXSJdyzw== =GW5T -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Opening encrypted USB disk
by Curt Howland 07 Oct '15

07 Oct '15

Well, this is interesting. It looks like Debian's new version is more than just systemd. Trinity v14.0.2 Debian 8 When I plug in an encrypted USB disk, the password window opens as it always did, but now it's complaining about HAL not existing. When I tried to open it through the Konqueror device view, it also failed. Attached are two screen grabs of the failures. I'm not asking for this to be "fixed" in TDE, it seems that the underlying hardware abstraction has changed in some fundamental way. HAL isn't even in the repository for Debian 8. I expect someone will get around to harmonizing this at some point, I'm sure I'm not the only person who has encrypted external disks that used to work seamlessly. The more things change..... Curt- -- The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom is courage. - Thucydides

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TDE Powersave "Freeze"
by Thierry de Coulon 04 Oct '15

04 Oct '15

Hello all, On my test Ubuntu install on a Thinkpad, TDEPowersave offers "Suspend to RAM" and "Freeze". The first works well and I understand what it does (I get the small "moon crescent" glowing. However, I dont really understand what "Freeze" is supposed to be. It seems it turns the screen, harddisc and WiFi off but Bluetooth stays on... and I don't know what else. Thierry

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Re: [trinity-users] Re: Failed to mount SD card [SOLVED] - NOT SOLVED
by ant 04 Oct '15

04 Oct '15

On Thu, 01 Oct 2015, ant wrote: > On Thu, 01 Oct 2015, deloptes wrote: > > > > > > > > Thank you for the hint - I didn't have udisks (or udisks2?) installed, so > > > I have installed it, and now I get no desktop icon. > > > But I can mount it from the cli, possibly because I have an fstab entry. > > > But experiments are continuing... > > > > > > > can you check if this somehow applies to you please? > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=650299 > > YES! As in the bug report, I edited > /usr/share/polkit-1/actions/org.freedesktop.udisks.policy > > and set the section '<action id="org.freedesktop.udisks.filesystem-mount">' to > be '<allow_any>yes</allow_any>' and '<allow_active>yes</allow_active>' > > and now it works as advertised. Thank you. UPDATE: Now it has stopped working. I get an icon, and: -------------- Unable to mount this device. Potential reasons include: Improper device and/or user privilege level Corrupt data on storage device Technical details: org.freedesktop.UDisks.Error.PermissionDenied: Not Authorized: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1 was not provided by any .service files ps aux gives: kded [tdeinit] --new-startup I am in plugdev. The .policy file is as above. Where next to look? cheers ant -- Sent from my linux system running Debian 8, desktop Trinity R14 This email is plain text, not HTML. Any attachments are either .jpg or .pdf

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Porting an app from TDE 3.5.13.2 to TDE R14.0.1
by midi-pascal 01 Oct '15

01 Oct '15

Hi, I started to port an KDE 3.5 app (Kooldock) to TDE R14.0.1. I did it years ago for TDE 3.5.13 with minimal trouble and used it since then with no trouble at all. Kooldock is automake and configure based and was developed as a kdevelop project. I have now a new machine (Ubuntu 14.04 64 bits) on which I installed TDE 14.0.1 with the live TDE ISO. I installed all required Trinity development packages. I can run the automake and configure tools inside TDevelop (TDE-C++) successfully so I am ready to build the Kooldock project. The build fails immediately because of the name of include files i.e. kpopupmenu.h -> tqpopupmenu.h and names of classes i.e QString -> TQString. Is there a way (script or utility) to convert existing KDE 3.5 or TDE 3.5.x code to TDE 14.0.1? Or at least, a documented path to port apps to TDE 14.x.? I am a developer, familiar with sed ands awk so I can manage converting the original sources if only I can get a guidance about what becomes what with TDE 14.x. After trying some manual modifications to the sources I feel some changes in include files are not this straightforward. For example some kxxxxxx.h files are now txxxxxx.h, others are now tdexxxxxx.h so porting my favorite application would become a nightmare with no how-to or minimal help. I would like to port the Baghira theme too (I did it for TDE 3.5.13 easily) but I am a bit reluctant to compile one line of code at a time, searching each include file/class name change. I love TDE and will stick to it anyway but I ask for some help here - if possible - Thanks for keeping TDE alive. It is the best DE I ever used (and I tried many, believe me!) And thanks for any feedback too. midi-pascal

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Missing task bar on a laptop with a "part time" external monitor
by Tim WIlliams 01 Oct '15

01 Oct '15

Hi All, I've got another problem after upgrading to Mageia 5/Trinity r14. When working for clients on-site, I will usually take my own laptop with me and plugin into an external monitor + keyboard while there. I have a script which automatically detects and extends the desktop to the external monitor when I log in. My task bar defaults to the external monitor when present and is shown on the laptop screen when there is no external monitor. This has been working perfectly for years. However, after my latest upgrade, the taskbar no longer displays on the laptop screen if I boot up after having previously used the external monitor, making my desktop unusable. The problem seems to be that the taskbar display is now "fixed" to whichever monitor it was last set to display on, regardless of whether that monitor is actually present or not. The external monitor output isn't actually being enabled due to a mis-detection, there is no signal output on the monitor port and the desktop has not been extended off the visible area of the laptop screen in any way. The only solution I have found so far is to plug into an external monitor, enable that monitor with an extended desktop using my script (which runs xrandr) and manually drag the taskbar back to the laptop screen. This is OK when I have a monitor available, but if I'm out and about with no monitor available, I'm a bit stuck and have to use XFCE instead. Ideally it would be nice if the prior behaviour was restored, but I'd settle for a simple script run during login which can move the taskbar back to the laptop screen every time I login, it's not a big deal to drag back to the external monitor after I login. Is there any way to achieve this? I'm thinking that either there is a command I can issue which will move the taskbar location on demand, or alternatively I could use something (eg sed with a regex?) which re-writes the underlying config setting before the task bar starts (where is the config setting?)! Thanks in anticipation, Tim Williams -- Tim Williams BSc MSc MBCS AutoTrain 58 Jacoby Place Priory Road Edgbaston Birmingham B5 7UW United Kingdom Web : http://www.autotrain.org, http://www.utrain.info Tel : +44 (0)844 487 4117 AutoTrain is a trading name of EuroMotor-AutoTrain LLP Registered in the United Kingdom, number: OC317070.

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Failed to mount SD card
by ant 30 Sep '15

30 Sep '15

Inserting an SD card into the reader gives a desktop icon. fdisk -l gives: /dev/sdc1 * 8192 15759359 15751168 7.5G b W95 FAT32 and I can mount it as root and read it fine using: mount /dev/sdc1 /media/camera/ But trying to mount it with konqueror gives: Unable to mount this device. Potential reasons include: Improper device and/or user privilege level Corrupt data on storage device Technical details: No supported mounting methods were detected on your system Any clues, anyone? (Trinity R14.0.1. And kded is running) cheers ant -- Sent from my linux system running Debian 8, desktop Trinity R14 This email is plain text, not HTML. Any attachments are either .jpg or .pdf

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[trinity-users] startx exits instantly in Mageia 5/R14 (where to set global default session type?)
by Felix Miata 29 Sep '15

29 Sep '15

Fresh minimal HTTP Mageia 5 installation today, followed by minimalist TDE installation attempt using urpmi. Unless startx has /opt/trinity/bin/starttde appended, desktop briefly paints, then back to vtty from which started. If started from greeter, TDE session is OK, though many items are missing from systemsettings, e.g. TDE components, required to reach session manager. Nothing clueful in Xorg.0.log. This is all that's in .xsession-errors after attempting startx: /etc/X11/Xsession: line 108: /usr/sbin/chksession: No such file or directory /root/Music was removed, reassigning MUSIC to homedir /root/Pictures was removed, reassigning PICTURES to homedir /root/Videos was removed, reassigning VIDEOS to homedir /etc/X11/Xsession: line 175: xclock: command not found /etc/X11/Xsession: line 176: xvt: command not found /etc/X11/Xsession: line 185: /usr/bin/xsm: No such file or directory Where does global default session type need to be set? /etc/sysconfig/desktop with DISPLAYMANAGER=/opt/trinity/bin/tdm doesn't to it. https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/MageiaInstall doesn't help. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/

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Porting to TDE: Missing include files
by midi-pascal 27 Sep '15

27 Sep '15

Hi, Porting a KDE3 theme (Baghira) to TDE, the include files kdecoration.h and kdecorationfactory.h are missing from my TDE and tqt dev trees. I can see that some TDE sources include them - i.e. r14.0.1/twin-styles/kde1/kde1client.h, r14.0.1/twin-styles/icewm/icewm.h and some others - so I think I am missing a dev package but I do not know which one. A hint from a member of the TDE dev team would be greatly appreciated! Thanks, midi-pascal

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Re: [trinity-users] Crash on shutdown
by Timothy Pearson 26 Sep '15

26 Sep '15

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA224 > Hi, > > Since a fresh installation of TDE R14.0.1 on Ubuntu 14.04 x86_64 on a > new computer from the live TDE iso, TDE crashes during the shutdown. > This happens from the beginning i.e. before I installed anything more > than the initial install. > > I saved the back trace from the TDE CrashHandler so here it is: <snip> > > midi-pascal At first glance the crash appears to be in a Qt4 application, probably related to the TDE style engine for Qt4 (which is badly in need of a rewrite to be more in line with the GTK style engine). In the future, if you use the online crash reporter we can get some idea of which crashes are most common; in many cases this helps to resolve the bug faster. Thanks! Tim -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iFYEARELAAYFAlYG5sAACgkQLaxZSoRZrGG/ewDfTPz0SLGLgiFyv0m6XWvyAHCq fI/tZZpbFIrVKQDfepBgWJfwAxmFpzUQVe6geLcRIvETZsUgi5URIw== =QU6A -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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TDE Icon styles applied to non TDE applications
by Tim Williams 26 Sep '15

26 Sep '15

Hi All, 2nd message of the day. I've done a new clean install of the TDE r14.0.1 packages on Mageia 5 and I'm finding that the TDE icon styles and widgets are overriding the normal ones used for non-TDE apps. I've been through all the settings I can find (including turning off the "Apply colours to non KDE apps" option), but I can't find any way to stop this. Any suggestions? I'm figuring there must be an option or a package somewhere which controls this but after over an hour of hunting through the options and searching documentation I've failed to find the answer. Thanks in advance, Tim W -- Tim Williams BSc MSc MBCS AutoTrain 58 Jacoby Place Priory Road Edgbaston Birmingham B5 7UW United Kingdom Web : http://www.autotrain.org, http://www.utrain.info Tel : +44 (0)844 487 4117 AutoTrain is a trading name of EuroMotor-AutoTrain LLP Registered in the United Kingdom, number: OC317070.

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Crash on shutdown
by midi-pascal 26 Sep '15

26 Sep '15

Hi, Since a fresh installation of TDE R14.0.1 on Ubuntu 14.04 x86_64 on a new computer from the live TDE iso, TDE crashes during the shutdown. This happens from the beginning i.e. before I installed anything more than the initial install. I saved the back trace from the TDE CrashHandler so here it is: passprompt Qt4TDEStyle: No such file or directory. [New LWP 2281] [New LWP 2280] [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] Using host libthread_db library "/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libthread_db.so.1". 81 ../sysdeps/unix/syscall-template.S: No such file or directory. Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/share/gdb/auto-load/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6.0.19-gdb.py", line 63, in <module> from libstdcxx.v6.printers import register_libstdcxx_printers ImportError: No module named 'libstdcxx' ==== (gdb) bt ==== [TDECrash handler] #5 0x00000000005b763d in ?? () #6 0x00000000005b79b7 in PyErr_WarnEx () #7 0x00007fc71dfe3917 in ?? () from /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/gobject/_gobject.so #8 0x00007fc71e912ae1 in g_logv () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0 #9 0x00007fc71e912d72 in g_log () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0 #10 0x00007fc7172fd394 in QEventDispatcherGlib::~QEventDispatcherGlib (this=0x1d54810, __in_chrg=<optimized out>) at kernel/qeventdispatcher_glib.cpp:408 #11 0x00007fc715603769 in QGuiEventDispatcherGlib::~QGuiEventDispatcherGlib (this=0x1d54810, __in_chrg=<optimized out>) at kernel/qguieventdispatcher_glib.cpp:197 #12 0x00007fc7172e6168 in QObjectPrivate::deleteChildren (this=this@entry=0x16d35a0) at kernel/qobject.cpp:1907 #13 0x00007fc7172e86ff in QObject::~QObject (this=0x1768980, __in_chrg=<optimized out>) at kernel/qobject.cpp:926 #14 0x00007fc715562e49 in QApplication::~QApplication (this=0x1768980, __in_chrg=<optimized out>) at kernel/qapplication.cpp:1103 #15 0x00007fc7165453a9 in ?? () from /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/PyQt4/QtGui.so #16 0x00007fc716572372 in ?? () from /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/PyQt4/QtGui.so #17 0x00007fc716a1ea26 in ?? () from /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/sip.so #18 0x00007fc716a1fd09 in ?? () from /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/sip.so #19 0x00000000004f7148 in ?? () #20 0x000000000055bb93 in ?? () #21 0x0000000000499f0b in PyEval_EvalFrameEx () #22 0x00000000004a1634 in ?? () #23 0x000000000044e4a5 in PyRun_FileExFlags () #24 0x000000000044ec9f in PyRun_SimpleFileExFlags () #25 0x000000000044f904 in Py_Main () #26 0x00007fc71fe13ec5 in __libc_start_main (main=0x44f9c2 <main>, argc=3, argv=0x7ffeb1be0158, init=<optimized out>, fini=<optimized out>, rtld_fini=<optimized out>, stack_end=0x7ffeb1be0148) at libc-start.c:287 #27 0x0000000000578c4e in _start () More of this trace is available if needed. Any help on this is welcome! midi-pascal

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kmail Mail transport
by Gene Heskett 26 Sep '15

26 Sep '15

Greetings; I have trolled thru the configs but haven't managed to find a way to link the Identity used to send a mail, to the Mail transport used to send the msg. Since I have an account at the tv station at least as long as I live, I have used that old & overloaded qmail server since I helped install it 16 years ago. But shentel has now set up a new server of their own after about 2 years of excedrin headaches caused by farming it out to gmail, and of course I have an account there because its my ISP and phone company too. In the folder properties, one can set the sender Identity, which works well, but to use the 20x faster shentel server when I am using a shenetl ID, I have to manually select it from the pulldown on the right. Can this not be linked to be automaticly selected according to the folder I launched a reply in? If not, its a future feature request. Thanks. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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Trinity mirrors
by Lisi Reisz 25 Sep '15

25 Sep '15

Is there a list anywhere of Trinity mirrors? If so, where? What mirror are people using for 3.5.13.2? Thanks, Lisi

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Where do I find the most expert nfs help?
by Gene Heskett 25 Sep '15

25 Sep '15

Greetings; I have a weird problem in that I seem to be able to access the remote machine, except for the most important directory on it, /home. An ls /net/machine/home ls: cannot access /net/shop/home: Stale NFS file handle Expected this sudo ls /net/shop/root permission denied But every other actually exists on the drive directory is ls'able. I've restarted all the nfs related stuff, everything but rebooted this machine. Subject says it all. I need to find the experts. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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Quickbuild (Launchpad) question not Trinity related.
by Michael . 23 Sep '15

23 Sep '15

Hi Tim I tried emailing you via the email (kb9vqf(a)pearsoncomputing.net) on the TDE site but it bounced. Is there an email I can contact you on with regards to Quickbuild (Launchpad) or is it fine to ask here? Cheers. Michael.

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tdebase compile problems
by Jerry Nettrouer II 17 Sep '15

17 Sep '15

I seem to be having a problem getting tdebase to compile on Slackware 14.1. - I did a git update to the latest head Monday. [ 26%] Building CXX object kcontrol/hwmanager/CMakeFiles/kcm_hwmanager-module.dir/hwmanager_skel.cpp.o cd /tmp/tdebase.build/kcontrol/hwmanager && /usr/local/bin/c++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -Dkcm_hwmanager_module_EXPORTS -O2 -fPIC -fvisibility=hidden -fvisibility-inlines-hidden -DQT_NO_ASCII_CAST -DQT_CLEAN_NAMESPACE -DQT_NO_STL -DQT_NO_COMPAT -DQT_NO_TRANSLATION -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT -D_REENTRANT -include tqt.h -I/opt/trinity/include -I/usr/include/tqt -DQT_NO_ASCII_CAST -DQT_CLEAN_NAMESPACE -DQT_NO_STL -DQT_NO_COMPAT -DQT_NO_TRANSLATION -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT -D_REENTRANT -include tqt.h -fPIC -I/tmp/tdebase/kcontrol/hwmanager -I/tmp/tdebase.build/kcontrol/hwmanager -I/tmp/tdebase.build -I/opt/trinity/include -I/usr/include/tqt -o CMakeFiles/kcm_hwmanager-module.dir/hwmanager_skel.cpp.o -c /tmp/tdebase.build/kcontrol/hwmanager/hwmanager_skel.cpp Linking CXX shared module kcm_hwmanager.so cd /tmp/tdebase.build/kcontrol/hwmanager && /usr/bin/cmake -E cmake_link_script CMakeFiles/kcm_hwmanager-module.dir/link.txt --verbose=1 /usr/local/bin/c++ -fPIC -O2 -fPIC -fvisibility=hidden -fvisibility-inlines-hidden -DQT_NO_ASCII_CAST -DQT_CLEAN_NAMESPACE -DQT_NO_STL -DQT_NO_COMPAT -DQT_NO_TRANSLATION -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT -D_REENTRANT -include tqt.h -I/opt/trinity/include -I/usr/include/tqt -DQT_NO_ASCII_CAST -DQT_CLEAN_NAMESPACE -DQT_NO_STL -DQT_NO_COMPAT -DQT_NO_TRANSLATION -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT -D_REENTRANT -include tqt.h -Wl,--no-undefined -shared -Wl,-soname,kcm_hwmanager.so -o kcm_hwmanager.so CMakeFiles/kcm_hwmanager-module.dir/hwmanager.cpp.o CMakeFiles/kcm_hwmanager-module.dir/deviceiconview.cpp.o CMakeFiles/kcm_hwmanager-module.dir/devicepropsdlg.cpp.o CMakeFiles/kcm_hwmanager-module.dir/devicepropsdlgbase.cpp.o CMakeFiles/kcm_hwmanager-module.dir/hwmanagerbase.cpp.o CMakeFiles/kcm_hwmanager-module.dir/cryptpassworddlg.cpp.o CMakeFiles/kcm_hwmanager-module.dir/cryptpassworddlgbase.cpp.o CMakeFiles/kcm_hwmanager-module.dir/hwmanager_skel.cpp.o -L/opt/trinity/lib64 /opt/trinity/lib64/libtdeio.so.14.0.0 /opt/trinity/lib64/libtdeui.so.14.0.0 -lfreetype -lfontconfig -lXext /opt/trinity/lib64/libtdesu.so.14.0.0 /opt/trinity/lib64/libtdewalletclient.so.1.0.1 /opt/trinity/lib64/libtdecore.so.14.0.0 /opt/trinity/lib64/libDCOP.so.14.0.0 /opt/trinity/lib64/libtdefx.so.14.0.0 -ltqt -ltqt-mt -lXrender -lX11 -lc /usr/local/lib64/libz.so -lidn -lXcomposite -lICE -lSM -lgamin-1 -lutil -lacl -lattr -Wl,-rpath,/opt/trinity/lib64:/usr/local/lib64: make[2]: Leaving directory `/tmp/tdebase.build' /usr/bin/cmake -E cmake_progress_report /tmp/tdebase.build/CMakeFiles 12 [ 26%] Built target kcm_hwmanager-module make[1]: Leaving directory `/tmp/tdebase.build' make: *** [all] Error 2 There was an error trying to build tdebase. EXIT_CODE: 1 /opt/trinity/include/tdestoragedevice.h:160:2: error: expected identifier before numeric constant /opt/trinity/include/tdestoragedevice.h:160:2: error: expected â??}â?? before numeric constant /opt/trinity/include/tdestoragedevice.h:160:2: error: expected unqualified-id before numeric constant /opt/trinity/include/tdestoragedevice.h:167:1: error: expected declaration before â??}â?? token CMake Warning: ======================================================================== tdebase is a required package and must be installed before continuing. /opt/trinity/include/tdestoragedevice.h namespace TDELUKSResult { enum TDELUKSResult { Invalid = 0x00000000, Success = 0x00000001, <- tdestoragedevice.h:160:2 LUKSNotSupported = 0x00000002, LUKSNotFound = 0x00000003, InvalidKeyslot = 0x00000004, KeyslotOpFailed = 0x00000005, Other = 0x80000000 }; }; <- tdestoragedevice.h:167:1 Any help would be appreciated ;-)

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Change of language in TDE
by Lisi Reisz 17 Sep '15

17 Sep '15

My recent bout of proselytising is bringing converts - and questions that I can't answer. I'll feed these out one at a time. If the locale of Trinity is wrong, i.e. was not installed correctly in the first place - US instead of UK in the case in question - how can one put it right? Keyboard is easy, but there is a lot more wrong than Keyboard. Dates are unreadable, money wrong, paper default sizes wrong etc. At least numbers are, I think, right!! There are two desktops on the laptop in question, and I *think* that the other one is right and is set to UK. Just for the record, and in case of doubt, living with it is not a realistic option!! Thanks, Lisi

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Missing trinity-filesystem RPM Package
by Tim Williams 15 Sep '15

15 Sep '15

Hi All, I've just done a clean install of Mageia 5 with the latest Trinity r14.0.1 RPMs and I've found a problem, the trinity-filesystem RPM seems to be missing from the repository, this prevents installation of the core packages. I've build my own version of the RPM from an older source RPM so that I could get the installation to proceed and everything else seems to have worked. Tim W -- Tim Williams BSc MSc MBCS AutoTrain 58 Jacoby Place Priory Road Edgbaston Birmingham B5 7UW United Kingdom Web : http://www.autotrain.org, http://www.utrain.info Tel : +44 (0)844 487 4117 AutoTrain is a trading name of EuroMotor-AutoTrain LLP Registered in the United Kingdom, number: OC317070.

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shift+left/right cannot be bound in Emacs
by Uwe Brauer 15 Sep '15

15 Sep '15

Hello This seems a odd problem, I can bind in Emacs/Xemac control+shift, or shift but not left+shift. Emacs does not recognize the key so I thought maybe trinity has bound that key. That happens for example with the Control+F1-Control+F12 keys. But I was not able to find any binding. Somebody has an idea? thanks Uwe Brauer

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kpdf vs big document= odd failure
by Gene Heskett 14 Sep '15

14 Sep '15

Greetings all; As has been mentioned, I dabble in CNC machinery too. Maybe that qualifies me as a power user since the motors used to run the machinery do spin the power meter up a bit. :) Anyway, the most recent version of the documentation for LiniuxCNC, version 2.7.0, has been combined from 3 "books" of nominally 450 pages each, some of which contained duplicate info, into one 704 page tome now. So I called up kpdf and sent it to print this, duplex mode on my Brother HL3170CDW color laser printer. It immediately jumped one core to 100%, but I figured that would take it a while to preprocess. But after about 10 minutes I began to worry because I had started that job once before but had to reboot the machine for other reasons before it had sent a wakeup byte to the printer. So I called up a copy of iceweasel to see what localhost:631/printers/network-printer had to say for itself. Which was that the "pdftops" filter had failed. So I canceled the job. Thirty seconds later, the printer wakes up and starts slowly spitting out the printout as requested. But I have no clue how many pages into the document it will get before running out of data because it is about 30 sheets of paper into the job, and still trucking along in duplex mode. The printer is rated at 20 PPM, but in duplex, all that paper handling cuts it to about 2 or 3 sheets a minute. When it dies, I can restart the job at an arbitrary page number to finish the job of course, but I am curious why the web interface to cups would report the failure of the pdftops filter, yet it looks to be working well right this instant? But then it reported a drum error, please slide the wire cleaner gismo's on all 4 drums. Did, it spit out the bad page and reprinted a good copy of that page. And 34 pages of preamble index etc, plus over 100 pages of the 704 in the doc so far. Did I mention I love Brother printers yet? But whats with kpdf? Inquiring minds would like to know. Thanks everybody. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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Did I miss something? Changing sources.list to pearsoncomputing.net
by Curt Howland 13 Sep '15

13 Sep '15

Hi. I changed my sources.list to point to the pearsoncomputing.net site for Jessie, rather than the "preliminary build" site, and when I tried it I got this: Err http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-r14.0.0/debian/ jessie/main libtqt3-mt amd64 4:14.0.1-0debian8.0.0+0 301 Moved Permanently All the packages got the "301" error. I stopped the process after half a dozen or so. Did I miss something? I knew that Jessie had been moved to the Pearsoncomputing.net archives, and thought that I'd left enough time for everything to copy over. Curt- -- The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom is courage. - Thucydides

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Just for fun: Linus Torvalds rants about new programming interfaces
by Alexandre 13 Sep '15

13 Sep '15

Hi all, Just for fun, take a look at the following article: http://www.itworld.com/article/2983241/linux/linus-torvalds-rants-about-new… Have a great day! -Alexandre

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TDE and Devuan :-)
by Dr. Nikolaus Klepp 12 Sep '15

12 Sep '15

Hi all! I just updated a wheezy testmachine with TDE 14.0.0 to devuan + jessie + TED 14.0.1. Surprisingly things went quite smooth. After the upgrade I had to manually purge systemd and cgmanager. Now there is only "libsystemd0" left - well, maybe somebody needs to recompile "cups" without systemd :-) Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA.

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PCLinuxOS TDE non-official remaster version 2015, September 5 is ready to download!
by Alexandre 12 Sep '15

12 Sep '15

Hi everyone! My PCLinuxOS TDE non-official remaster version 2015, September 5 is ready to download! I call it non-official because it doesn't come from the PCLOS team and since it contains software coming from outside of their repos, it is also not supported by them. It only has a special ''permission to exist'' from the PCLinuxOS dev team. It is a complete system that can be used as a LiveDVD or it can be installed (from the LiveDVD). New on this release: -Fully up-to-date PCLinuxOS 2015 base system -Based on TDE R14.0.1 Its is the first release of my remaster with TDE R14 series -Kernel 4.1.6 -Choice of either classic Grub or Grub2 -Smaller ISO size On this LiveDVD: -Tons of TDE software and major apps like LibreOffice 5, Firefox 40, Gimp and so... -PCLinuxOS does NOT use SystemD Login info (on the LiveDVD): Regular user:guest Password:guest Super user: root Password:root System requirement: A x86 computer with at least 384mb of RAM. It is a 32bit system, but it can be installed on a 64bit system too. Installation instructions: http://pclinuxoshelp.com/index.php/Installing_PCLinuxOS Please follow them... :) Download link for the multi-part zip file: http://www.filefactory.com/file/6iijpmjql9d5/PCLinuxOS_no_TDE_remaster_5sep… http://www.filefactory.com/file/5l7dw8thwpqb/PCLinuxOS_no_TDE_remaster_5sep… http://www.filefactory.com/file/hlbb8kc6pzp/PCLinuxOS_no_TDE_remaster_5sept… Md5 Sum of the iso: daf7e3d0231205f8be689280040e0d0a If you like what you see, you can consider giving some money to the Trinity Desktop Environment project! It is very important to do so, because development and internet infrastructure needed to brought you TDE are expensive to buy and keep running, so the future of TDE is in your hands! Give me your comments! -Alexandre

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Odd ssh -Y problem. A TDEism?
by Gene Heskett 12 Sep '15

12 Sep '15

Greetings; On wheezy, running the newest r14.0.2 TDE I think, from the looks of the update done recently. I have several other machines, all running a wheezy sourced release, customized with a special pinned rtai patched kernel because the main application they run is linuxcnc. But they are running, generally, a simple XFCE interface. And that program runs as well as its configured to do, something I am in the middle of re-writing in an effort to fine tune the machines performance. One of the things I like to do is configure check from this nice comfy office chair is by running it over an ssh -Y login from here. But that has always been a problem child, a puzzling one because neither machine has in its environment, a setting for colors called FORGROUND or BACKGROUND. But its a showstopper, and only for linuxcnc, which contains tcl scripting that bails out of the program before the gui can be drawn on this screen. Other programs which use x run just fine, at least the ones I have tried. That includes gimp, but that machine has no gimp loadable files on it. pasted from the login screen: _tkinter.TclError: unknown color name "BACKGROUND" Shutting down and cleaning up LinuxCNC... If it ever gets past that, it will do the same for the FOREGROUND color. BTDT but this machine was running an older ubuntu at the time. And its been long enough since I hacked around it that today I haven't a clue what I did then. Does anybody have any suggestions on how to deal with this? FWIW, the "simulated machine" version of that software runs just fine on this machine. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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konsole and resize
by Leonard T Harris 11 Sep '15

11 Sep '15

I don't often use the resize command and I'm not 100% this is a TDE issue. I have konsole set to allow programs to resize the terminal. When I do something like: resize -s 25 80 it does resize the terminal, but it also waits for me to hit enter (or something) and then complains: resize: unknown character, exiting This is not the behavior I normally encounter. Normally it resizes the terminal, and clearly sets columns and lines and exports them. I have tried this in both bash and zsh. This is on a box with Ubuntu 15.04 freshly installed (with just zsh and TDE added). Hopefully someone can let me know how to make this behave normally. Thanks in advance. -LTH

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Service Shutdown
by Timothy Pearson 10 Sep '15

10 Sep '15

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA224 Repost for those not subscribed to the announcement list: http://trinity-announce.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::34 Tim -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iFYEARELAAYFAlXyBlEACgkQLaxZSoRZrGFSxADZAXnGmkFRbqWr9uS4CMfK1Zub mA3G0tKau5HKLwDdF2/CmMvwl9oIKDGzKyU7bXtvF/oJMWgKZYSF5Q== =xSbi -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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[trinity-devel] bad repo configuration instructions for 32 bit openSUSE
by Felix Miata 10 Sep '15

10 Sep '15

Most times in recent months when I've needed to access TDE repos for openSUSE, the package manager has claimed the server is inaccessible, so I scrapped the idea of either installing or upgrading TDE at those times. Today: # zypper ref ... Retrieving repository 'Packman' metadata .....................................................................................[done] Building repository 'Packman' cache ..........................................................................................[done] File '/repodata/repomd.xml' not found on medium 'http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity/rpm/opensuse13.2…' Abort, retry, ignore? [a/r/i/? shows all options] (a): This was the content of my last configured TDE.repo file on 13.2 host gx780 running r14.0.0 (likely non-working when previously tried): [TDE] enabled=1 autorefresh=1 baseurl=http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity/rpm/open… type=yum It was initially created by following the instructions on https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/OpenSUSEInstall. Changing types today to i586 and rpm-md got it working. That page's instructions include uname -i, which results in the non-functional string i386 in the baseurl. I know it's a wiki, but what to change the instructions to say instead I don't know. This is the content of my currently working TDE.repo and TDEnoarch files: **** [TDE] autorefresh=1 baseurl=http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity/rpm/open… enabled=1 gpgcheck=0 keeppackages=0 name=TDE type=rpm-md **** [TDEnoarch] autorefresh=1 baseurl=http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity/rpm/open… enabled=1 gpgcheck=0 keeppackages=0 name=TDEnoarch type=rpm-md **** Configuring repos in openSUSE can be as simple as copying those files into or out of /etc/zypp/repos.d/, or changing names of files there, or editing their content with plain text editor, all of which I prefer to zypper ar/rr or managing via YaST2. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/

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Re: [trinity-users] Screen rotates but touchscreen does not!
by Thierry de Coulon 07 Sep '15

07 Sep '15

On Monday 07 September 2015 00.18:26 Timothy Pearson wrote: > A quick Google search show that this might be an Xorg bug: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/217182 Actually this one was a good hint. After a little search as to how xsetwacom works it does provide a solution. It requires four scripts and four buttons in the panel but I can perfectly live with that solution. Thank you for suggesting a solution! If anyone is looking for a sensible solution "with touch", take a look at the X220t, it's a very nice machine at you get them pretty cheap these days. Thierry

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Screen rotates but touchscreen does not!
by Thierry de Coulon 07 Sep '15

07 Sep '15

Hello everybody, I've got an interresting puzzle: I've set up a Thinkpad X220 Tablet with OpenSUSE 13.2 and TDE 14.0.1; Everything works wellincluding the Wacom digitizer, I've been able to install Open Sankore and MihPhoto from respectively a deb and an rpm package. TDE 14.0.1 on OpenSUSE seems to have a problem with this machine as it does not see my USB key as removable, but a workaround was setting a mount point in fstab. The puzzle is this: TDE proposes a system tray applet named "Resize and Rotate". It works like a charm, wich is usefull because the X220t's battery is a little bulky and lifts the back of the computer This is good in Notebook mode, but in Tablet mode, with the screen _physicaly_ rotated 180°, it's the front that is higher that the back. So if I rotate the screen _per software_ 180° everything is fine... However, the digitizer does not get the information, so the pointer appears on the wrong side of the screen - this is funny for 30 seconds but unusable after that. So, does anyone have an idea how to also rotate the touchscreen digitizer 180°? This does work in Windows 10, but I'd prefer to use Linux :) Have a nice evening, Thierry

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Trinity Desktop Environment R14.0.1 Released!
by Timothy Pearson 06 Sep '15

06 Sep '15

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA224 For those not subscribed to the trinity-announce mailing list, TDE R14.0.1 was officially released today: http://trinity-announce.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::33 Thank you for your patience during the upload process! Tim -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iFYEARELAAYFAlXjfxcACgkQLaxZSoRZrGGCEQDgotQaLOIOWpans0uJ2EMQWDPg TRRh+4ahbB7+GADggnVLEM1x2D8/sQgEVMWPmaZzkRS20LRtAlISlw== =HMo4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Basket Kontact integration - does it work?
by iadest 05 Sep '15

05 Sep '15

Hello I'm using Basket to store my notes, links and small images. I'm trying Kontact now, but I have problem: There is no integration of Basket in Kontact. There is a package "basket-kontact-integration-trinity", but in my Jessie, 64-bit it does nothing. Is there any way to have Basket embedded in Kontact? MCbx

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Possible bug
by Thierry de Coulon 05 Sep '15

05 Sep '15

Hello all, I've just made a fresh install of 14.0.1 on an OpenSUSE 13.2 on a Thinkpad X220 Tablet. Evrything went smooth, but I've got a small problem: If I set "Show device icons" in "configure Desktop -Device icons" and choose to show "Mounted Hard Disk Volume", I can see my mounted USB key - but I also see my mounted Hard Disk partitions. If I deselect "Mounted Hard Disk Volume" they all disappear, including the USB key. The dialog to mount the key when inserted does appear and the key does mount, but as I can't see it on the desktop it makes it more complicated to unmount (and I may forget). Show Mounted Removable Medium does nothing. Everything does work correctly on OpenSUSE 13.1 and TDE 14.0.0 on my main machine. Now the question is: TDE bug? Bug in the OpenSUSE version of 14.0.1? Local problem (maybe the graphic driver?)? Apart from that, this notebook is awsome: I can work as usual with TDE and my favourite trackpoint, and those application that can use / require a touchscreen work like a charm with the Wacom digitizer. It's more heavy than a Tablet, but it comforts me in thinking Tablets are useless to people who _work_ with a computer, it's only foe surfing (and maybe gaming). Ah, and I first tried "Tumbleweed" with KDE Plasma 5 on it - keep away! They are back to good old Windows Vista time, with notifications poping up everywhere all the time. Gnome 3 does a good job as a Tablet Interface and it includes a Wacom calibrating tool, but with a "Convertible" and it's Thinpad Keyboard It's TDE again obviously. Thierry

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tdebase-3.5.13.1 tqt3integration 'tqAppClass' was not declared in this scope
by Jerry Nettrouer II 04 Sep '15

04 Sep '15

[100%] Building CXX object tqt3integration/libqtkde/CMakeFiles/qtkde-shared.dir/qtkde.cpp.o cd /tmp/tdebase-3.5.13.1/build/tqt3integration/libqtkde && /usr/bin/c++ -Dqtkde_shared_EXPORTS -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -O2 -march=i486 -mtune=i686 -fvisibility=hidden -fvisibility-inlines-hidden -DQT_NO_ASCII_CAST -DQT_CLEAN_NAMESPACE -DQT_NO_STL -DQT_NO_COMPAT -DQT_NO_TRANSLATION -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT -D_REENTRANT -include tqt.h -I/usr/lib/qt3/include -I/usr/include/tqt -DQT_NO_ASCII_CAST -DQT_CLEAN_NAMESPACE -DQT_NO_STL -DQT_NO_COMPAT -DQT_NO_TRANSLATION -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT -D_REENTRANT -include tqt.h -fPIC -I/tmp/tdebase-3.5.13.1/build/tqt3integration/libqtkde -I/tmp/tdebase-3.5.13.1/tqt3integration/libqtkde -I/tmp/tdebase-3.5.13.1/build -I/tmp/tdebase-3.5.13.1/build/tqt3integration/utils -I/usr/lib/qt3/include -I/usr/include/tqt -o CMakeFiles/qtkde-shared.dir/qtkde.cpp.o -c /tmp/tdebase-3.5.13.1/tqt3integration/libqtkde/qtkde.cpp In file included from /tmp/tdebase-3.5.13.1/tqt3integration/libqtkde/qtkde.cpp:145:0: /tmp/tdebase-3.5.13.1/build/tqt3integration/utils/tqtkde_functions.cpp: In function 'QStringList getOpenFileNames(const QString&, QString*, long int, const QCString&, const QString&, QString*, bool)': /tmp/tdebase-3.5.13.1/build/tqt3integration/utils/tqtkde_functions.cpp:34:262: error: 'tqAppClass' was not declared in this scope /tmp/tdebase-3.5.13.1/build/tqt3integration/utils/tqtkde_functions.cpp: In function 'QString getSaveFileName(const QString&, const QString&, QString*, long int, const QCString&, const QString&, QString*)': /tmp/tdebase-3.5.13.1/build/tqt3integration/utils/tqtkde_functions.cpp:64:270: error: 'tqAppClass' was not declared in this scope /tmp/tdebase-3.5.13.1/build/tqt3integration/utils/tqtkde_functions.cpp: In function 'QString getExistingDirectory(const QString&, long int, const QCString&, const QString&)': /tmp/tdebase-3.5.13.1/build/tqt3integration/utils/tqtkde_functions.cpp:93:94: error: 'tqAppClass' was not declared in this scope /tmp/tdebase-3.5.13.1/build/tqt3integration/utils/tqtkde_functions.cpp: In function 'QColor getColor(const QColor&, long int, const QCString&)': /tmp/tdebase-3.5.13.1/build/tqt3integration/utils/tqtkde_functions.cpp:116:72: error: 'tqAppClass' was not declared in this scope /tmp/tdebase-3.5.13.1/build/tqt3integration/utils/tqtkde_functions.cpp: In function 'QFont getFont(bool*, const QFont&, long int, const QCString&)': /tmp/tdebase-3.5.13.1/build/tqt3integration/utils/tqtkde_functions.cpp:139:102: error: 'tqAppClass' was not declared in this scope /tmp/tdebase-3.5.13.1/build/tqt3integration/utils/tqtkde_functions.cpp: In function 'int messageBox1(int, long int, const QString&, const QString&, int, int, int)': /tmp/tdebase-3.5.13.1/build/tqt3integration/utils/tqtkde_functions.cpp:165:115: error: 'tqAppClass' was not declared in this scope /tmp/tdebase-3.5.13.1/build/tqt3integration/utils/tqtkde_functions.cpp: In function 'int messageBox2(int, long int, const QString&, const QString&, const QString&, const QString&, const QString&, int, int)': /tmp/tdebase-3.5.13.1/build/tqt3integration/utils/tqtkde_functions.cpp:190:160: error: 'tqAppClass' was not declared in this scope make[2]: *** [tqt3integration/libqtkde/CMakeFiles/qtkde-shared.dir/qtkde.cpp.o] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/tmp/tdebase-3.5.13.1/build' make[1]: *** [tqt3integration/libqtkde/CMakeFiles/qtkde-shared.dir/all] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/tmp/tdebase-3.5.13.1/build' make: *** [all] Error 2

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imap and group calendars
by Calvin Morrison 03 Sep '15

03 Sep '15

Hi, I'm using kmail to manage my work email (which is an exchange server) accessing it through IMAP. Is it possible to also sync calendars through trinity as well? Thank you. Calvin

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Error selecting tdm-trinity
by Leonard T Harris 03 Sep '15

03 Sep '15

I'm pretty sure I had this problem before with an older version of Ubuntu and TDE, but I don't recall how it was fixed. Starting with a fresh install of Ubuntu 15.04, I installed TDE according to the instructions at https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/UbuntuInstall#For_Vivid_.28Ubuntu_15.04.29 During the install of TDE, it asks me to choose between lightdm and tdm-trinity. I chose tdm-trinity. It gives an error: WARNING: /lib/systemd/system/tdm.service is the selected default display manger but does not exist initctl: Unable to connect to Upstart: Failed to connect to socket /com/ubuntu/upstart: Connection refused insserv: warning: script 'tdm-trinity' missing LSB tags and overrides insserv: Default-Start undefined, assuming empty start runlevel(s) for script 'tdm-trinity' insserv: Default-Stop undefined, assuming empty stop runlevel(s) for script 'tdm-trinity' Rebooting brings me to a command prompt instead of the GUI. If I log in and do startx it brings up some kind of GUI with no icons or panel. The only way to get out of it seems to be to power off the machine. Also tried dpkg-reconfigure lightdm which failed with the same error when I chose tdm-trinity. If I select lightdm things seem to work once I figured out how to tell lightdm to start TDE instead of ubuntu. Thanks in advance.

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[TDE-on-NixOS] Cmake will be the default in TDE, in a near future?
by Anderson Torres 03 Sep '15

03 Sep '15

Hello, TDE hackers! I am now working on packaging TDE to NixOS Linux distribution. I will resume an earlier work I have made a long time ago, but for all purposes it will be a long and challenging "TDE from Scratch" task. As I read the wiki on building TDE from sources, I found there are a bit heterogeneous build system: some old apps use Autotools, and the new ones use Cmake. If the build system were homogeneous, it would be a bit easier (for me at least :P) to maintain the Nix expressions. So, I want to ask two things: 1 - There is some intent on wipe Autotools and adopt Cmake on all TDE tree? 2 - If yes to 1: how can I help on it? Thanks in Advance! Anderson Torres

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Preliminary stable builds on the move
by Slávek Banko 01 Sep '15

01 Sep '15

Hi everyone, who is currently uses preliminary stable builds repository as you have surely noticed, the final R14.0.1 was released. Currently at this time packages in prelminary stable builds and official R14.0.1 are both based on an identical source packages. That was indeed the reason why here was no longer time any update in the preliminary stable builds repository. If you used the preliminary stable builds only temporarily, you can now switch to official packages. This is the best time because here are waiting updates to upload into prelinary stable builds. You have been warned ;) If you are using prelinary stable builds deliberately, you can look forward to that next week will launch the first upload of packages for the new target R14.0.2. Thank you for your attention :) -- Slávek

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I am still stuck in a replacement loop of 2 files
by Gene Heskett 27 Aug '15

27 Aug '15

From the synaptic history screen: Commit Log for Thu Aug 27 04:44:56 2015 Upgraded the following packages: tdeadmin-trinity (4:14.0.1-0debian7.0.0+0) to 4:14.0.1-0debian7.0.0+0 tdegames-trinity (4:14.0.1-0debian7.0.0+0) to 4:14.0.1-0debian7.0.0+0 And if I simply hit the apply button, it will do it again and again. I nuked those two files in /var/cache/apt/archives by hand and it went away. Those were quite long filenames, and contained some odd characters. The dash is a legal char, but is the + sign? I don't know. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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Bug of the action of copy with kmail-trinity
by andre_debian＠numericable.fr 26 Aug '15

26 Aug '15

Hello, There is a small bug with kmail-trinity, since a long time, versions 3.5 and 14.0. When I highlight a word or sentence and want to make a copy, (left button of the mouse), a menu appears, without the possibility of copy, but instead, suggestion of others words. This bug appears sometimes, not all the time... and when it does, kmail is blocked, I have to wait some seconds to retrieve kmail normally, and often, always without the possibility of copy. When I have to write ca mail in a hurry, it's really an inconvenience. Best regards to us. André

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Possible temporary disruption when updating TDE
by Michele Calgaro 26 Aug '15

26 Aug '15

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Dear all, just as a word of fore-notice, we are currently publishing the Debian/Ubuntu R14.0.1 packages to the main PPA and mirror system. So please be aware (as someone has already found out) that while the publishing and mirror synchonizing processes are under way, you may occasionally run into dependency problems if you are updating TDE. If so, please give it some time and try again a little later. Cheers Michele -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJV3b4BAAoJECp1t8qK3tXPMoUQAM8pJUzjoDWlugoFXdJT/gsT hzplh53nt3+6lhvHwLTBNXiKpzZQKZkhXK39Zjs/GDbp2f0fJj/3ni7Ms0IaOZTd RJQT4llOIwMoUDhsIlzuLt/7PVC8WA8burPSyJQnkXqU2fcMH1ZWHOZs9nDiPmTd Fs8iFGo/TowHDUrCpBqWU4JFzf1AJ2odhGXF3CJSiYRwwZciIJwRA9m3PN5ekDUB Lc7Z+fl1RfjKOAPG2wWcJI3/rXUi+PTsB54xbCTka9ZbXrDH5XAIuD9nLQVWz40H Kn1VRrpLCuz9fvcmVbq/EIAPq7erAsldoKvpl6NMRGHk4RDN3G1SToCtCHlLhpIa 3/+PoXmtHyPjhSlZeF7Z3yODBcNFisfANHh07fh0Pz4T2ZCXU1VizKlzLtXH9yds UJCMy6vv40HYM+T6Tw26Q2LIgnf0GlQwY3ej16HINnIPbfA+uxnWns5YdECpzrLD 0ivUx3Rp0+cnj4tfQan5DTfQpmbZ4JSQKYsYTK2s/bt6y8uXjyVEGLzeKGnFrWUF 3iJfLSY8gSOfFba7jpX4Tn2g0776GO6b+SSMMHVN6NCpYsc+zNnBk8l7HxVR7Qy4 eTl7G6pve3bKyfqHDNG+eCoUFZYRF0oqNozg/XnEMFasNHg+nqXbZN3Hsm9NDeAW iq39ShBMK9OOs5cKOKhd =pP7j -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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PPA not working?
by John P. Willis 25 Aug '15

25 Aug '15

As is very often the case, the PPA for TDE is not working. Though yesterday it would simply time out, today, I get "509 Maximum Instantaneous Bandwidth Exceeded". This would not be a problem, except that it holds back other needed updates on my system. What needs to be done to make this PPA work well, and how can I help? Err http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-r14.0.0/debian/ wheezy/main katomic-trinity amd64 4:14.0.1-0debian7.0.0+0 509 Maximum Instantaneous Bandwidth Exceeded /* * John P. Willis, CEO * Coherent Logic Development LLC * Solutions: Everywhere * * 425 S. Telshor Blvd. Ste. 202 * Las Cruces, NM 88011 * * Tel: 575.520.9542 * Fax: 575.449.4122 * * jpw(a)coherent-logic.com * http://www.coherent-logic.com/ * */ -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS d-@ s+: a C++ UBLHS++++$ P+ L++ E++ W+++$ N++ !o K-? w++$ O+++ M V+++>$ PS+++ PE Y+ !PGP t+++ !5-- !X R tv+ b+++ DI+ !D-- G e h---- r+++ y++++ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------

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[trinity-users] Ctrl-Alt-Del warning frozen instead of TDM greeter in 3.5.13.2-3
by Felix Miata 25 Aug '15

25 Aug '15

This is openSUSE 13.1. Is there something I can change in kdmrc to stop this broken warning? Nothing in it jumps out at me. Elsehwere? I can ctrl-alt-Fn to get to the vttys. http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::2262 thread discusses, but I see no solution there that doesn't depend on a running X session, and nothing in Bugzilla. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/

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r14.0.1 update
by Gene Heskett 24 Aug '15

24 Aug '15

Greetings all; I haven't rebooted, but did restart kmail. Nothing unusual in about 9 hours. Feels good, looks good. Many thanks to all who had a hand in this. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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It looks like synaptic is trying to update to r14.0.1
by Gene Heskett 24 Aug '15

24 Aug '15

Greetings; It originally was going to update 324 packages, but not all could be downloaded, so now its back in the download phase, having updated about 100 that it could get the first time. 214 to go, but the download screen is confusing because its not being kept up to date. At one point I was looking at an estimated time to completion of 1 day + 23 hours, with a download rate of about 2k a second. Right now is says 2278 B/s for file 13 of 278. Did we melt the server down? Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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trinity on latest mageia ( mageia 5 )
by Neo Futur 23 Aug '15

23 Aug '15

hi all I just upgraded mageia from 4 to 5 and it seems there is no trinity repository for mga5. I found https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/MageiaInstall and there seems to be nothing for mga5 ;( did I miss something ? If not can I hope for a mga5 repository soon or will I have to drop mageia ? ( I cant live more than a few weeks without my preferred desktop , trinity. the upgrade from mga4 to mga5 have orphaned all the trinity packages.

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shentel has new email server & I can't smtp send
by Gene Heskett 20 Aug '15

20 Aug '15

Greetings all; shentel has fired gmail, so that account stopped working, without notice or fanfare about 14:30 local time yesterday. I have now fixed my fetchmail & related scripts so that I can receive incoming emails from their new server. On port 995 But setting that address in a kmail send account is not working, and kmail won't even show me the alternate sending server as a sending target. A "check what the server supports" times out about a minute later as no contact hasa been made. I'm fresh out of clues & could use some help. Like is there an alternate port number to try instead of 25 for smtp? Thanks. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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When will R14.0.1 be ready?
by yanestra＠arcor.de 20 Aug '15

20 Aug '15

Sorry for such a kind of superfluous comment, but when can we expect TDE R14.0.1 to be ready and downloadable? And another question: I will need to compile TDE myself and I have read that there were massive problems because of failed library dependcies which were not detected (visible?) during compilation. Esp., libpng15, because that one missing ruins the general appearance. Any hints on that topic, or has there been an improvement on the compile script side?

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Smartphone USB connection with Krusader
by Robert Peters 19 Aug '15

19 Aug '15

Using Krusader 1.90.0 in TDE 14.0.1, trying to access the file system in my LG-P716 phone. But it doesn't appear in Krusader's dropdown media list. Or under /media/. For the phone's USB connection type I try Media sync (MTP) or Camera (PTP), both without success. Installed kio-mtp and associated KDE4 files but still no go. Any ideas? -R

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Strange (to me) error message in KMail
by Lisi Reisz 19 Aug '15

19 Aug '15

Debian Wheezy 7.8 Trinity R14.0.1 KMail 1.9.10 It is a new installation of both Trinity and KMail on a new computer. Initially it worked fine and a pile of new messages downloaded. Now it won't download and I get the error message: 'could not connect to host localhost' I have run it from a terminal, and I get: john@Harrier:~$ kmail [TDE NM Backend ERROR] [/tmp/buildd/tdelibs-trinity-14.0.1/tdecore/tdehw/networkbackends/network-manager/network-manager.cpp:1224] org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freedesktop.NetworkManager was not provided by any .service files [TDE NM Backend ERROR] [/tmp/buildd/tdelibs-trinity-14.0.1/tdecore/tdehw/networkbackends/network-manager/network-manager.cpp:1224] org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freedesktop.NetworkManager was not provided by any .service files [TDE NM Backend ERROR] [/tmp/buildd/tdelibs-trinity-14.0.1/tdecore/tdehw/networkbackends/network-manager/network-manager.cpp:1803] org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freedesktop.NetworkManager was not provided by any .service files kmail: WARNING: Autosave directory /home/john/.trinity/share/apps/kmail/autosave/cur not found! john@Harrier:~$ WeaverThreadLogger: thread (ID: 1) suspended. WeaverThreadLogger: thread (ID: 3) suspended. WeaverThreadLogger: thread (ID: 4) suspended. WeaverThreadLogger: thread (ID: 2) suspended. Weaver dtor: destroying inventory. WeaverThreadLogger: thread (ID: 1) destroyed. WeaverThreadLogger: thread (ID: 2) destroyed. WeaverThreadLogger: thread (ID: 3) destroyed. WeaverThreadLogger: thread (ID: 4) destroyed. Weaver dtor: done ^C john@Harrier:~$ When I shut down KMail, the Konsole hung at <Weaver dtor: done>. I then did ^C to shut it down in the Konsole and shut the Konsole. What do I do to get KMail working, or do I have to put this client back on Icedove and Mbox. :-( Thanks, Lisi

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Mails won't send, no error message.
by Lisi Reisz 19 Aug '15

19 Aug '15

Debian Wheezy 7.8 Trinity R14.0.1 KMail 1.9.10 Mails won't send, no error message. Not even if I click on <send queued messages>. So far I have not succeeded in sending a single message from teh new set-up. I have googled, but usual problem - too much KDE4. :-( The following could be the explanation, but I can't translate it into Trinity-ese. Something somewhere must be misconfigured or stuck. I attach (if they will go) screenshots of the smtp settings, with the email address changed a bit. But if the settings were wrong I would expect an error message. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Your mails are not being sent, without error messages If KMail does not send mail without saying anything, the 'agent' responsible for 'dispatching' the mails can be stuck. Of course, you need to ensure you have proper network connectivity for mail to be send! To remedy this, it might help to abort the current action and re-start it. First, quit KMail by using KRunner (Alt + F2) or Konsole and typing: kquitapp kmail. Note that a normal Alt + F4 or File -> Quit does not do the trick! Wait a minute, then start KMail again. Now start akonadiconsole using KRunner (Alt + F2) or Konsole. Go to the Mail Dispatcher Agent, do a right-click and abort the current action. You will most likely get some error messages popping up. Go back to KMail and choose File -> Send Queued Messages. Now it might work. If not, instead of aborting the current action, try toggling the offline/offline status of the Mail Dispatcher Agent or restarting things like mentioned in the workaround 2 of the problem above this one. Note akonadiconsole can be quite helpful for a number of situations as it shows all the 'agents', the separate components of the KMail backend. You can stop and start them, put them in offline mode, abort ongoing actions etc. It can be very helpful when things get stuck. --------------------------------------- I am sure that it is PEBKAC again, but I can't leave this for a day or three until I feel more functional. I have to get it done. Lisi

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peculiarity in update
by dep 19 Aug '15

19 Aug '15

just did my standard update-when-indicated (via apt-get update/upgrade in a terminal), and got this: Failed to fetch http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-builddeps-r14.0.… Size mismatch any idea what's up here? thanks in advance for any advice. -- dep The shortest distance between you and playing great acoustic guitar: the great new instructional DVDs from Marjorie Thompson, available at www.MarjorieThompson.com

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resize the windows on kde-trinity 3.5
by andre_debian＠numericable.fr 18 Aug '15

18 Aug '15

Hello, I cannot resize the windows with the right button of the mouse as before, on kde-trinity 3.5. So, I must accept two sizes, a size by default (80 X 24) or the mode full screen. Thanks. André

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Installing TDE on Ubuntu 14.04 ARM
by Alexandre 18 Aug '15

18 Aug '15

Hi, I just bought an ARM laptop at a relatively low price with a dual-core WonderMedia WM8880 1,5ghz CPU and 1gb of ram. It comes with Android, but I found a working sd card image with Ubuntu 14.04 ARM made for it, and it works impressively well with it. But now, I would like to know if there is pre-built package for Ubuntu 14.04 of either R14.0.0, or better R14.0.1 (or Slavek's PSB repo). If yes, what do I add to my source.list file? Here is the laptop, for info: http://www.craigelectronics.com/site/pdetails.php?id=642 Thank you! -Alexandre

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32 bit file count overflow?
by Gene Heskett 16 Aug '15

16 Aug '15

My inbox, which has no expiry rules set, has gone from a 6 digit msg count encompassing dates back to 2002, had suddenly lost quite a few years worth of content, and is now showing 1522 msgs, for 91.2 megabytes. Loosely confirmed by a du -h performed in my Mail/inbox directory, so they are truly gone. 3 or so months ago, it was showing close to 695,000 msgs, and about 12 gigabytyes. However, another folder which also has no expiry rules, is showing north of 87,000 mesgs, & 481 megs occupied. Does anyone have a clue where they may have gone? Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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No "out-of-the-box"
by Anderson Serra 16 Aug '15

16 Aug '15

Hello. I installed Ubuntu with TDE environment, but the manager software was absent. So I managed to install, but now says I have no privileges to run. How to solve it? I've never seen it before on a distro. Another problem is that these same errors occur when trying to install a .deb package. There is not bound program to perform the installation. I would like to use the TDE as my default environment, but I am finding these obstacles. Because there is no TDE distros that came with software managers like the Ubuntu one. I'm not talking about Synaptic, which many softwares is missing. I have installed the TDE on SolidX distro, but it is buggy, and always lose the saved session. Which distro you recommend me that works out of the box, with TDE environment? It would be possible to install TDE in Mint Debian Edition? I do not want to use RPM-based distros. Thanks in advance. By the way, the ISO image called "tde-ubuntu-4.14-desktop-latest-amd64.iso" found in http://tde-mirror.yosemite.net/trinity/cdimages/ubuntu/ is wrong. Its environment is the Ubuntu Unity. I lost a cd media with this deception!

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