- tde-users - Trinity Desktop Environment

Tde on Freebsd
by PMnemo 28 Oct '23

28 Oct '23

Re Tde on Freebsd Please note I'm not sure if this is the right place for this request, if it is not could you inform me or move to to the correct place Background I built tde from ports then put the resulting packages onto a usb stick Then by editing Freebsd.conf to read from the usb I was able to install tde onto another machine from the usb In the same way as if it was a linux machine Request Therefore as you (TDE) have to do the same ie: build to ensure they compile ok it would mean you have tde freebsd source & packages Could you then treat these packages the same as you do the linux ones ie make available via http(s) All a freebsd user would have to do then is add it (the http(s) info ) to Freebsd.conf as a repo & install tde the same as any other freebsd desktop pkg This would also mean we don't have to wait for freebsd to decide to host tde packages PMnemo Sent with [Proton Mail](https://proton.me/) secure email.

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network issues
by William Morder 28 Oct '23

28 Oct '23

Now I have developed issues with my network connection. And, just to be clear, I tried a basic reinstallation of my system, devuan chimaera, downloaded TDE packages from the stable repositories, didn't do anything weird, nor any self-styled hacks. The tdenetworkmanager now will not permit me to deactivate my connection, but defiantly autoconnects. I went into the settings and disabled the autoconnect, yet it still reappears. When I went into the xfce desktop (which I never use, except for troubleshooting, such as times like this, I got a message that said that I was not authorized to change network connections. The only way that I am able to turn off the wifi connection is by using iwconfig and ifconfig. I am thinking of uninstalling the tdenetworkmanager and the gnome networkmanager on which I believe it relies, and to go back to using wicd for a while. I feel like I am losing my mind. I have not changed anything in my basic settings or installation patterns in *years*. And I mean, years and years and years. I've been doing it exactly like this since about 2012 or so, when I first changed over from the old KDE3 desktop (on Kubuntu Hardy Heron 8.04) to the earliest versions of the TDE desktop, once I figured out how to get it working. I've done it like this through Kubuntu, Debian, and now Devuan. If something major has changed which is affecting all these different applications, I have not seen anything in the tech news and gossip. Furthermore, as I said earlier, my new keyboard/mouse combon will not work at all with TDE's Secure Attention Key, so it looks like I will be returning it to exchange for something that is explicitly made to work with a Linux system. Please, if anybody has even a clue what's going on, say something, as I am lost here. Bill

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Add search domain with TDENetwork
by Gianluca Interlandi 28 Oct '23

28 Oct '23

Hi! Is there a way to add an additional search domain to /etc/resolv.conf using TDENetwork? Somehow I was able to do it on my laptop with openSUSE 15.2 but I can't remember what exactly I did. I have a desktop with openSUSE 15.4 connected only with wired ethernet and DHCP. I tried adding the search domain manually to /etc/resolv.conf but at the next reboot it disappears. I also tried setting in /etc/sysconfig/network/config NETCONFIG_DNS_POLICY="" but after the next reboot it completely erased the content of /run/netconfig/resolv.conf to which /etc/resolv.conf is linked. So I had to set it back to NETCONFIG_DNS_POLICY="auto" and reboot and then resolv.conf was back. Thanks! Gianluca ----------------------------------------------------- Gianluca Interlandi, PhD gianluca(a)u.washington.edu +1 (206) 685 4435 http://gianluca.today/ Department of Bioengineering University of Washington, Seattle WA U.S.A. -----------------------------------------------------

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half-baked devuan installation - please help
by William Morder 26 Oct '23

26 Oct '23

I have finally got round to attempting to install the current stable version of Devuan Daedalus. I had tried a testing version, which wasn't working so well, then I installed Devuan Chimaera again (which is old stable), then just upgraded to Daedalus by changing my sources.list. But now I have run into a snag which I've only encountered a couple times before, don't have a clue how to get past this. It seems to be something to do with a low graphics installation, maybe? In any case, I went into the bios, enabled legacy support, uefi first (which has normally worked just fine for me in all previous installations), but I got a weird messed-up screen of illegible garbage. So I went into the bios again, tried a different tack: enabled legacy support, legacy first, and this was only a little better. I also tried just using the OS defaults, enabling uefi, but as I'm sure everybody knows, this won't allow me to install a Linux system at all. I realize that Microsoft and Apple are concerned for our safety and well-being, and wish at all costs to protect us from the dangers of installing Linux, but I can't help wanting to dabble in the dark arts of software freedom. For what it's worth, I am working on a Lenovo Ideapad 3.15 15.6" laptop. The only hardware change was to swap the internal 128 gb SSD drive for a 2 tb SSD. Otherwise, the only changes were to void my warranty before I ever booted into a Windoze system. I installed Linux on first boot. And no, by the way, I have no other computer with which to get on the internet, and never use my phone for internet. Someday perhaps I will get another machine, but at present I have about six more machines packed away in storage. Attached are some screenshots (taken with my phone) to show what's happening. I have a funny feeling that others on the mailing list have experienced something like this, and I know, too, that there are some dedicated users of Devuan or Devuan-type systems, so maybe somebody can tell me how to get past this barrier, or at least point me in the right direction. Any help or suggestions will be greatly appreciated, and you will get rewarded in tons of good karma. See attachments for screenshots. thanks in advance, Bill

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Do we want to participate in social networks?
by Slávek Banko 10 Oct '23

10 Oct '23

Hi all, some time ago I was thinking about whether we want to become an active member of social networks with our project. Things like Facebook and Twitter have always been "no go" zones for me. However, I've been thinking about the Mastodon platform for a long time. Mastodon is a decentralized platform for publishing short messages and pictures. It is based on open source architecture and therefore this platform is close to our ideas. You can see profiles of other projects like @kde@floss.social, @gnome@floss.social, and others. I assume that it would help to "make us visible" and information could be published there, for example about the release of new versions, or some useful information regarding development, screenshots, solving issues and community info. Does it seem like a good idea for us to have an official communication channel for our project on Mastodon? What is your opinion on this? Cheers -- Slávek

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disappearing Konsole text during copy for pasting
by Felix Miata 07 Oct '23

07 Oct '23

This has been going on too long to remember, probably more than a year now, but at least since 14.0.13. I haven't been able to create a reliable reproduction scenario. Typically, I start a session that has remembered Konsole (at 0,0) with a plain shell tab and an MC tab. With quite some frequency, I wish to copy and paste the first command of the session, and its output, that I have entered in the shell tab, into some text file in MC. The problem is that swiping the mouse from bottom to top to select that output commonly blanks the first Konsole line, which is usually something that produces multiple lines of text output, such as inxi, so that when pasted, the first line of the paste is also blank. The instant case causing me to write this is in Mageia 8/14.1.0, but it IIRC it happens in Debian, Fedora, openSUSE & *buntu also. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata

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Kate configuration
by D. R. Evans 29 Sep '23

29 Sep '23

I have a simple mind, so I have an equally simple requirement for Kate... when I click on a text file in konqueror, I want kate to open with only one pane: the edit pane showing the contents of the file on which I clicked. I am sure it used to work exactly this way, but somehow it seems that my configuration now is wrong: what happens now when kate opens is that there is an extra pane on the left hand side, containing the names of several recently-edited files. I suspect, given the amount of time that kate is now taking to open, that kate is actually reading those files into memory. I don't want any of that to happen: I want just a clean view of the contents of the file I want to edit. I'm sure it's a simple thing to fix, but I've wasted a ridiculous amount of time trying to figure out, without success, how to change the configuration so that kate doesn't occupy screen space with a list of recently-edited files. So if someone can give me the magic configuration item(s) to change, I would very much appreciate it. Doc -- Web: http://enginehousebooks.com/drevans

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14.1.1 Development Upgrade woes
by Michael Howard 27 Sep '23

27 Sep '23

Upgraded to 14.1.1 [Development] and now the system is pretty CRAP. Can only have one 'Desktop', can't move any windows around the screen (but can use/interact with them in any other way). 'konsole' app looks weird (borderless). Have moved old .trinity out of the way but no difference. Anybody seen the likes before? Cheers, -- Michael Howard.

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Laptop installation
by John Logsdon 24 Sep '23

24 Sep '23

Dear TDE list I have used tde for some time now, but mainly on desktops. I standardise on Ubuntu 20.04 LTS version but unfortunately the desktop version comes bundled with a desktop that takes ugly to new levels and does not offer multiple desktops, which are very useful as I have an additional screen plugged into the HDMI port. So I start by installing the server version, then add the trinity repositories and install as directed. That's always worked on my desktops. The platform is a Dell 7737 laptop with 16GB memory - quite old but reliable, nice display, etc and I have replaced the drive with a 1TB SSD so it is a completely new box. There are 2 display controllers, VGA compatible Intel Haswell-ULT and a 3D controller nVidia GeForce GT 750M. Now the issues: 1) I have no wifi or ethernet tools. The machine is currently working with the installation settings in /etc/netplan via the wired networking. Thus, if I want to use it elsewhere I cannot select wireless network without editing the installation file(s). Network settings just tells me that the platform is not supported and offers quite an old list of options. What is missing from my installation? 2) There is no suspend or other power options. As I use it as an effective desktop that is permanently plugged in, this may not matter but again, what can be missing? 3) If I go to the power settings and try to change anything, the display on the laptop goes bananas with for example the nice plain blue xterm header turned into a rainbow, blotchy characters etc. Moving the offending object to the external screen . I've seen this before and the answer with an nVidia graphics card was to install the nVidia-418 drivers from the Ubuntu repository and block nouveau. Initially, with nouveau, this happened which is why I installed the nVidia bundle but it happens with that as well. Could this be a confusion between the two display controllers because the extension screen is not affected, or the missing power options? Puzzled. -- John Logsdon Quantex Research Ltd m:+447717758675/h:+441614454951

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Porting remaining KDE3 (window) styles
by Hunter Graham 08 Sep '23

08 Sep '23

Haldo! Long time user, first time poster! It's weird looking back at all the different windows decorations and styles for KDE 3, knowing full well how much they not only had to be designed, but also coded. It's also weird knowing that some Trinity users haven't been exposed to some of these, however impractical or redundant they may be. xD Me personally, I've been wanting to get the Fahrenheit windeco working in TDE (and not through lack of trying, mind you -- I really tried to figuring out porting, thank you to the wiki contributors, though I've not had much success. Possibly out of general inexperience with porting, makefiles, and development in general, but I digress....) To be honest, I want to get the community's (or at least the devel list's) opinion on how feasible they think it is to get all the other Qt3 and KWin styles ported over to Trinity. I imagine the best starting point for this would be within openSUSE for a couple reasons: - their interoperability with multiple distros and their respective package formats - the fact that (as of this message) they still maintain a KDE3 repo, even in 2023 with Plasma 6 on its way - some windecos don't have much documentation outside of guesswork and the obvious "made over a decade ago for a much different version" disclaimer (...hello again, Fahrenheit!) Of course, my programming experience only extends beyond my use of Scratch as an elementary school young-un in the late-aughts, so I honestly don't know -- wdyt? - hunter graham

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How do I disable the sending of the messages to my email
by deloptes 08 Sep '23

08 Sep '23

Hi, do you know how I can disable the sending of the messages of the list to my email? I tried in gmane, but couldn't find where I can set it. I also searched on the TDE home page but couldn't find out. thank you in advance BR

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apt-get error
by Thierry de Coulon 07 Sep '23

07 Sep '23

Hello all, This does not create a real problem, so my question is mainly to try understanding: - I use MX-Linux - I install TDE from PSB, with following lines in a /etc/apt/sources.list.d/tde.list file deb http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/deb/trinity-sb/ bullseye deps-r14 main-r14 deb-src http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/deb/trinity-sb/ bullseye deps-r14 main-r14 Install and updates are OK, but I allways notice this error: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/cnf-update-db", line 26, in <module> col.create(db) File "/usr/share/command-not-found/CommandNotFound/db/creator.py", line 96, in create self._fill_commands(con) File "/usr/share/command-not-found/CommandNotFound/db/creator.py", line 144, in _fill_commands self._parse_single_contents_file(con, f, fp.stdout) File "/usr/share/command-not-found/CommandNotFound/db/creator.py", line 283, in _parse_single_contents_file priority = component_priorities[component] KeyError: 'deps-r14' Reading package lists... Done Seems to me to indicate that some MX-stuff (creator.py?) is not happy with deps-r14, and as long as everything runs well I can live with it, but as I don't really understand what this error means, I don't know if I should worry...

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Re: Change GTK apps' icons in TDE
by Carlos AD 07 Sep '23

07 Sep '23

On Thursday 07 September 2023 01:39:08 William Morder via tde-users wrote: > You might also try installing the package qt5ct + dependencies. > > It's been a while since I used it, so I can't recall if it also helps to > make icons compatible with gtk2 and gtk3, but it definitely helps to make > many non-TDE applications use TDE color schemes. > > Be sure, however, after installing, to run this command: > sudo sh -c "echo 'export QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME=qt5ct' >> /etc/environment" > then reboot. > > See this page for a more thorough explanation: > https://askubuntu.com/questions/706528/qt-apps-stopped-inheriting-gtk-theme >s/748186#748186 > https://web.archive.org/web/20201111174652/https://askubuntu.com/questions/ >706528/qt-apps-stopped-inheriting-gtk-themes/748186#748186 > > Bill Thank you!! That didn't apply to Evolution, but that utility helped me with lots of other apps, such as KeePassXC or qBitTorrent. I have font smoothing disabled, so the default font for Qt apps looked so bad I avoided them. Besides, the font size was too big for my liking (and the colours and decorations didn't match, of course), and I didn't know how to personalize them without this. Thank you again! Carlos

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how to correct this error? re libkgtk2.so
by William Morder 07 Sep '23

07 Sep '23

In the past couple weeks I upgraded my machine from Devuan Chimaera to Daedalus, and it has been more of a headache than any previous upgrades. I wonder if anybody else has had similar experiences. But that is another story ... Most of the issues I have managed to iron out. Things now work almost the same as before, or better; but then again, not quite. In any case, I can manage, but I do wish for less change in my life, or that those changes could be more predictable. Now I am getting this error when I use any kind of shell or terminal. All I need to do is to enter anything at all, and hit return, and I get this error message: ERROR: ld.so: object '/opt/trinity/lib/kgtk/libkgtk2.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (cannot open shared object file): ignored. Mind you, everything still seems to work right enough, but this is not normal, and I would like it to go away. Any help will be appreciated. Bill

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Change GTK apps' icons in TDE
by Carlos AD 06 Sep '23

06 Sep '23

Hi, As Kmail isn't a viable option for use with corporate Office 365 e-mail (it doesn't support OAuth), I've installed Evolution with it's Exchange Web Access package. However, the icons in it are from the Adawita theme, and I don't seem to be able to change them using Trinity. From MATE, if I change the Icon theme using the built-in tool it also changes the icons on Evolution, but that's not the case in Trinity. I had managed to change the font and the decorations editing the $HOME/.config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini, but not the icons. I've installed the gtk-qt-engine-trinity package and tried to change the settings from Trinity's Control Center, but that has only edited my settings.ini file and caused Evolution to not run at all, with this terminal output (evolution:2551): Gtk-ERROR **: 20:27:32.588: GTK+ 2.x symbols detected. Using GTK+ 2.x and GTK+ 3 in the same process is not supported Firefox also doesn't work now, with the same terminal output. I think I'm missing something here, because it wouldn't make sense that I'd be able to change the decorations and font, but not the icons. Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong? Thank you, Carlos

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Re: Task switching (ALT + TAB) doesn't work in R14.1.0
by Carlos AD 06 Sep '23

06 Sep '23

On Wednesday 06 September 2023 16:18:19 Ilya Dogolazky via tde-users wrote: > I found something called "Walk Through Windows" -- but it's not the > same thing (it switches windows immediately, while the old good > ALT+TAB opened the list of windows and switched only after releasing > of the ALT key) Hi Ilya, The "walk through windows" option should, by default, be set to ALT+TAB and behave as you said (opening the list of Windows and switching only after releasing the ALT key), or at least it does in my case. I've been looking though the control center and it looks as if you have disabled the "Show window list while switching windows" option, which is under Desktop, in Window behaviour (or maybe something similar, my computer is not in English). Disabling it seems to make the desktop behave just as you described (switching windows immediatly), so I'd try enabling that option. Carlos

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Task switching (ALT + TAB) doesn't work in R14.1.0
by Ilya Dogolazky 06 Sep '23

06 Sep '23

Hello! When I press ALT+TAB nothing happens and I can't find any appropriate entry for switching the tasks in keyboard shortcuts (was it ever there? I don't know because ALT+TAB worked just fine without any setting editing). I found something called "Walk Through Windows" -- but it's not the same thing (it switches windows immediately, while the old good ALT+TAB opened the list of windows and switched only after releasing of the ALT key) Any ideas? Cheers, Ilya D.

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cups/tde?
by dep 02 Sep '23

02 Sep '23

greets, everybody. for some reason unknown to me, i can no longer print from tde apps. running localhost:631 brings up the cups admin page and i can print a test page just fine. i can print from libreoffice and mozilla. but if i try to print from, say, kpdf, an "initializing printing system" box pops up, then an error saying cups isn't installed or is misconfigured. dep Pictures: http://www.ipernity.com/doc/depscribe/album Column: https://ofb.biz/author/dep/

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Kaffeine Audio Visualization is broken?
by J Leslie Turriff 01 Sep '23

01 Sep '23

Does anyone else here use Kaffeine? Since upgrading to R14.1.0, for me the Audio Visualization modules seem to be missing; the default module, goom, does nothing, and if I attempt to switch to another, Kaffeine crashes. Kaffeine player is at level 0.8.8. Leslie -- Platform: Linux Distribution: openSUSE Leap 15.4 - x86_64 Desktop Environment: Trinity Qt: 3.5.0 TDE: R14.1.0 tde-config: 1.0

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Renaming Konsole session tabs programmatically - SOLVED
by J Leslie Turriff 01 Sep '23

01 Sep '23

I've fiddled with this for quite a while, and I finally have gotten it to work! I wanted the names on the Konsole session tabs to match the last node of the working directory; that makes it much easier to pick the right tab. The change is triggered by bash routine kcd (konsole cd) and the code that actually changes the tab name is changeKonsoleSessionName. I've attached the pieces of code that do the job. (changeKonsoleSessionName is written in Rexx. Sorry, but the string manipulation tools in bash are just awful; but the code is probably clear enough, and could be rewritten by an enterprising person. :-) I was thinking of adding something to change the text colour of the tab, but there doesn't seem to be a DCOP method for doing that. :-( Leslie -- Platform: Linux Distribution: openSUSE Leap 15.4 - x86_64 Desktop Environment: Trinity Qt: 3.5.0 TDE: R14.1.0 tde-config: 1.0

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kpdf does not show some fonts
by Dr. Nikolaus Klepp 01 Sep '23

01 Sep '23

Hi all; Maybe somebody can reproduce this: opening the attached pdf in kpdf only shows the formulas, but not the text. Opening the same pdf in xpdf works flawless. kpdf-trinity 4:14.1.0~s218-0debian12.0.0+13~b1 Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ...

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Menu entries for terminal-based applications
by J Leslie Turriff 27 Aug '23

27 Aug '23

I have a terminal-based application that I'm trying to debug. I have created a menu entry for it with Run in Terminal checked. There is also an option to keep the terminal from closing when the application ends, but I can't find it either by using the Menu Editor or by right-clicking the entry in the menu tree and selecting Edit Item. I know I've seen it somewhere (I've used it in the past), but now I can't find it anywhere. Alternatively, is there a value I can set in .local/share/applications/<item>.desktop? Leslie -- Platform: Linux Distribution: openSUSE Leap 15.4 - x86_64 Desktop Environment: Trinity Qt: 3.5.0 TDE: R14.1.0 tde-config: 1.0

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I want my boxdrawing characters
by Felix Miata 18 Aug '23

18 Aug '23

(It seems like this problem only just arose in the weeks since the middle of June, maybe more recently, but at least a month ago.) I often find them replaced by other characters, as in the attachment. The SS is from Tumbleweed, but it happens also in Leap, and also in KDE3's Konsole. Is this an absence of some specific font? If not, what needs to be differently configured for Konsole to always use boxdraw characters when an app or utility is supposed to be using them when used in Konsole? What follows is all from one multiboot PC: # grep RETT /etc/os-release PRETTY_NAME="openSUSE Tumbleweed" # wpctl status PipeWire 'pipewire-0' [0.3.75, root@ab250, cookie:1948030365] ââ Clients: 31. WirePlumber [0.3.75, root@ab250, pid:850] 32. WirePlumber [export] [0.3.75, root@ab250, pid:850] 47. PipeWire ALSA [tdeinit] [0.3.75, root@ab250, pid:1086] 48. wpctl [0.3.75, root@ab250, pid:1371] Audio ââ Devices: â 38. Built-in Audio [alsa] â ââ Sinks: â * 39. Built-in Audio Analog Stereo [vol: 0.46] â ââ Sink endpoints: â ââ Sources: â 40. Built-in Audio Analog Stereo [vol: 1.00] â ââ Source endpoints: â ââ Streams: Video ââ Devices: â ââ Sinks: â ââ Sink endpoints: â ââ Sources: â ââ Source endpoints: â ââ Streams: Settings ââ Default Configured Node Names: # systemd-analyze critical-chain The time when unit became active or started is printed after the "@" character. The time the unit took to start is printed after the "+" character. graphical.target @4.115s `-multi-user.target @4.114s `-kbdsettings.service @2.052s +2.062s `-basic.target @2.045s `-sockets.target @2.045s `-telnet.socket @2.044s `-sysinit.target @2.014s `-wtmpdb-update-boot.service @1.802s +138ms `-systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service @1.724s +43ms `-local-fs.target @1.723s `-run-credentials-systemd\x2dtmpfiles\x2dsetup.service.mount @1.728s `-local-fs-pre.target @1.105s `-systemd-tmpfiles-setup-dev.service @864ms +66ms `-kmod-static-nodes.service @524ms +80ms `-systemd-journald.socket `-system.slice `--.slice # # grep RETT /etc/os-release PRETTY_NAME="Fedora Linux 38 (Thirty Eight)" # wpctl status PipeWire 'pipewire-0' [0.3.77, root@ab250, cookie:1539572309] └─ Clients: 31. WirePlumber [0.3.77, root@ab250, pid:849] 32. WirePlumber [export] [0.3.77, root@ab250, pid:849] 47. artsd [0.3.77, root@ab250, pid:1026] 53. PipeWire ALSA [tdeinit] [0.3.77, root@ab250, pid:1088] 54. wpctl [0.3.77, root@ab250, pid:1240] Audio ├─ Devices: │ 38. Built-in Audio [alsa] │ ├─ Sinks: │ * 39. Built-in Audio Analog Stereo [vol: 0.46] │ ├─ Sink endpoints: │ ├─ Sources: │ 40. Built-in Audio Analog Stereo [vol: 1.00] │ ├─ Source endpoints: │ └─ Streams: Video ├─ Devices: │ ├─ Sinks: │ ├─ Sink endpoints: │ ├─ Sources: │ ├─ Source endpoints: │ └─ Streams: Settings └─ Default Configured Node Names: # # grep RETT /etc/os-release PRETTY_NAME="Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)" # wpctl status Could not connect to PipeWire # systemd-analyze critical-chain ... graphical.target @2.171s └─watchdog.service @2.156s +14ms └─multi-user.target @2.137s └─smbd.service @2.026s +110ms └─nmbd.service @1.779s +246ms └─basic.target @1.748s └─sockets.target @1.748s └─dbus.socket @1.747s └─sysinit.target @1.737s └─systemd-timesyncd.service @1.653s +81ms └─systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service @1.550s +43ms └─local-fs.target @1.493s └─run-credentials-systemd\x2dtmpfiles\x2dsetup.service.mount @1.562s └─local-fs-pre.target @849ms └─keyboard-setup.service @313ms +364ms └─systemd-journald.socket @295ms └─system.slice @253ms └─-.slice @253ms # -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata

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Crystalcursors
by Gianluca Interlandi 16 Aug '23

16 Aug '23

Dear TDE list, I installed the Crystalcursors mouse theme. In the past, e.g. in openSUSE 15.2, it worked well with TDE. However, in openSUSE 15.4 with TDE R14.1.0 I get a white arrow as expected for Crystalcursors, but for moving or resizing a window it falls back to the Adwaita default. I now realize that Crystalcursors is not an official trinity package, but probably from KDE3. My question is: Is there an official trinity Crystalcursors package or similar? If not, would it be possible to port the Crystalcursors mouse theme to trinity? Thanks! Gianluca ----------------------------------------------------- Gianluca Interlandi, PhD gianluca(a)u.washington.edu +1 (206) 685 4435 http://gianluca.today/ Department of Bioengineering University of Washington, Seattle WA U.S.A. -----------------------------------------------------

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Strange window behavior of gvim in TDE
by Gianluca Interlandi 14 Aug '23

14 Aug '23

Hi! I have installed openSUSE 15.4 with the current version of Trinity. It works nicely, thanks! However, gvim has a strange behavior. If I open gvim in LXDE it opens in a normal window and I can resize it like any other window. However in TDE, gvim opens in a at first regularly sized window but then it shrinks itself in width. If I try to enlarge it it freezes and looks like this: http://artemide.bioeng.washington.edu/Install_openSUSE15.4-trinity/20230808… To make it "unfreeze" I have to move it a bit, then it is responsive and I can type. I do not have this problem for example with firefox, which is also based on gtk-3. Is there any specific gtk-3 setting that I need to change to make gvim work properly? Thanks! Gianluca ----------------------------------------------------- Gianluca Interlandi, PhD gianluca(a)u.washington.edu +1 (206) 685 4435 http://gianluca.today/ Department of Bioengineering University of Washington, Seattle WA U.S.A. -----------------------------------------------------

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Packages with invalid signatures
by Mateus Rocha 14 Aug '23

14 Aug '23

Hello, people! I tried to reinstall Trinity here on Mageia 8(64 bit), but after downloading some packages for the installation using urpmi, the "Invalid Signature" message has showed up on all of them. I tried different mirrors as well, but I still have no success. Yes, I followed the installation instructions for Mageia on the TDE wiki. So, maybe there is a problem on the packages, on the repos, or the problem is on my end. Regards, Mateus Rocha

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libr0
by phiebie＠drei.at 12 Aug '23

12 Aug '23

Debian trixie won't update binutils etc. as the dependency of libr0 does not match the newer version. Kind regards, Peter..

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tdebase is not building for Debian 12 and x86_32 architecture
by Roman Savochenko 10 Aug '23

10 Aug '23

Hi I am trying to build tdebase for Debian 12 and x86_32 and get the building error: LOAD: .interp .note.gnu.build-id .note.ABI-tag .gnu.hash .dynsym .dynstr .gnu.version .gnu.version_r .rel.dyn .rel.plt objcopy: debian/tdebase-trinity-bin/opt/trinity/bin/kxkb: file format not recognized dh_strip: error: objcopy --only-keep-debug --compress-debug-sections debian/tdebase-trinity-bin/opt/trinity/bin/kxkb debian/tdebase-trinity-dbg/usr/lib/debug/.build-id/7d/a2f7c004e3daedb5454533e7098ee18cafd93f.debug returned exit code 1 make: *** [/usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/debhelper.mk:298: binary-strip-IMPL/tdebase-trinity-bin] Error 255 dpkg-buildpackage: error: debian/rules binary subprocess returned exit status 2 There is no my patches, only pure tdebase-trinity_14.1.0.orig.tar.xz.

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Re: tdelauncher DCOPserver, again
by ajh-valmer-free 09 Aug '23

09 Aug '23

On Tuesday 08 August 2023 11:47:22 you wrote: > (1) Which user(s) have dcopservers running ("ps uax | grep '[d]cop'")? > (2) Do they have any files open below /tmp/ (see "lsof -p pid")? > (3) What are the owners and permissions of those files and all their > parent directories? > (4) What are the mount options of all relevant filesystems (probably just /)? > (5) This says you are using Bookworm. Which version of TDE please? > (6) Are you able to run things from command line? Menu? > (7) Is the problem with icons on the desktop? Elsewhere? > (8) Are you starting TDE normally via tdm? > (9) Do you have any other window managers or desktops installed? > (10) Can you provide an example of a .desktop which fails in this way? > (11) What happened with the "Impossible to boot on trinity" issue? Hello, 1) andre 885 0.0 0.3 41948 9964 ? S 11:34 0:00 dcopserver [tdeinit] --nosid --suicide (what means "suicide" ?) 2) lsof -p pid lsof: illegal process ID: pid 3) The good owners permission 4) filesystems = / and /home/ 5) The last version of TDE. 6) If message dcopserver, I cannot open a terminal 7) Yes, icon on the desktop 8) Yes, starting normally with tdm 9) lightdm, and XFCE desktop 10) No problem with XFCE 11) It was another subject, resolved, with a complete reinstallation of Bookworm. The error message "tdelauncher dcoperver " comes from the directory : "/run/user/1000/ICEauthority" rights rw, if the owner of this file becomes root:root. It must be "andre:andre". If I change it, the error message disappears. Thanks, cheers. Andre

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DCOPserver again
by ajh.valmer＠free.fr 08 Aug '23

08 Aug '23

Hello, Since I migrated on Debian-12 Bookworm, when I click on all icons, I have again this message : "impossible to communicate with DCOPserver" I can only leave the session, and after some minutes, this message again and so on... Thanks for a solution, Cheers André

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DCOPserver again
by ajh-valmer-free 07 Aug '23

07 Aug '23

Hello, Since I migrated on Debian-12 Bookworm, when I click on all icons, I have again this message : "impossible to communicate with DCOPserver" I can only leave the session, and after some minutes, this message again and so on... Thanks for a solution, Cheers André

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Impossible to boot on Trinity
by ajh-valmer 05 Aug '23

05 Aug '23

Hello, On my laptop on debian-11 bullseye, suddenly, I cannot boot Trinity. I decided to reinstall by this command : apt install tdebase-trinity --reinstall I receive this message : "Packages contain dependencies not satisfied, ksplash-trinity depends of tdebase-data-trinity <4.14.1.1 but 4.14.1.1~pre32-0debian11.0.0+2 must be installed. Impossible to correct the problems, defectuous packages are in mode keep in state". So, Im completely disappointed and lost, what to do ? Thanks, cheers. André

5 6

Font colours for the session tabs in Konsole
by J Leslie Turriff 01 Aug '23

01 Aug '23

Hi, I'm trying out a home-made dark theme, and almost everything is working nicely, but the Fonts in the session tabs in Konsole are coming out black on dark grey (see the attached snapshot), making them very hard to read. Which of the colours in the Widget Colour pane of Appearance & Themes => Colors is associated with that part of Konsole? Leslie

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No wordwrap in kedit
by Thierry de Coulon 30 Jul '23

30 Jul '23

Hello all, Here in 14.1.1 (development) wordwrap does not work in kedit (neither soft nor "at a specified column"). The length set is written in keditrc but not used. Thierry

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Re: OpenOffice 4 wants gtk2-tqt-engine [SOLVED]
by J Leslie Turriff 27 Jul '23

27 Jul '23

Well, it turns out that my problem had nothing to do with Trinity (which is what I was assuming); there were bits of an older release of OpenOffice lurking in my system. I removed them and reinstalled OO, and it's working now. Thanks for your suggestions. Leslie On 2023-07-19 13:51:07 deloptes via tde-devels wrote: > J Leslie Turriff via tde-devels wrote: > > I'm forwarding this from the Users list as Mike suggested. It's a > > side-issue to my attempt to debug an OpenOffice problem, but it would be > > nice to know why some TDE components try to write to > > /etc/tqt3/tqt_plugins_3.5rc.tmp, which of course is not writable by > > non-root accounts? > > I have seen this file also in my local logs, but it is harmless. I guess it > is from some plugin - the default setting. > > However this has nothing to do with the OOO issue Mike has. > I suggested that Mike removes the gtk2-tqt-engine as it was causing > problems, but he did not follow on that. > > BR

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kate configuration
by D. R. Evans 25 Jul '23

25 Jul '23

At some point in the last year, kate started behaving differently here: when it opens a file for editing, there is now an extra column to the left of the contents of the file; the extra column shows the name of the file being edited. I can remove this extra column by hitting the word "Documents" which appears (rendered vertically) at the extreme left of the kate window. But I do get fed up of having to do this every single time I open a file for editing in kate. So how do I configure kate so that this additional column with the name of the file being edited no longer appears when kate opens a file for editing? (I looked at the kate configuration file, but nothing obvious struck me; searching the Internet also didn't produce anything useful that addresses this, but it's perfectly possible that I wasn't using a very good search string.) Doc -- Web: http://enginehousebooks.com/drevans

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konqueror servicemenus
by rody＠dds.nl 22 Jul '23

22 Jul '23

The konqueror servicemenus are used to provide a custom action when right-clicking a file on the desktop or in konqueror. In kde3 I would put the .desktop files I have in $HOME/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus and they just work. In trinity, the correct place for these files seems to be $HOME/.trinity/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus. However, putting anything in there does not give me the corresponding actions when right-clicking a file that matches the correct mime-type. I also see a similar directory under /opt/trinity/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus with lots of preconfigured actions. One of them I get to see when I right-click on a text-file, which is "Edit as root". So the servicemenus mechanism seems to be working, just not for my own .desktop files... What am I missing here? I'm using trinity 14.1.0 on a devuan 4 install without any other desktop environment.

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View on more than one, but less than all Desktops?
by Michael 21 Jul '23

21 Jul '23

If you right click the Title bar of a TDE app (KMail) you get an ability to view the app on all the desktops or a single desktops (To Desktop). If you have 3 Desktops, is there any way to view the app on only 2 of the Desktops? If not, how much effort for our wonderful Dev's would this take? (If it's easy I'll go add it as an enhancement request, if it's a complete pita, it's not worth it.) Thanks, Michael

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Locales language, icon FR becomes US
by ajh-valmer 20 Jul '23

20 Jul '23

Hello, I have choosen FR-language in first and number two US-language. An icon FR is present down right. Many times, suddenly, the icon becomes US and the keyboard is QWERTY. Is it a bug or how to stop this change ? Thanks, Cheers. André

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OpenOffice 4 wants gtk2-tqt-engine
by J Leslie Turriff 19 Jul '23

19 Jul '23

I'm trying to get OpenOffice to work (required by another software I want to use). I have successfully installed openoffice, but when I try to start any of its components it fails with "The application gtk2-tqt-engine (soffice.bin-gtk-tqt-application) crashed and caused the signal 6 (SIGABRT)." It looks like it's imbedded in OpenOffice? Not sure. I've attached a trace. Might be related to the desktop I'm using (Trinity)? Leslie -- Platform: Linux Distribution: openSUSE Leap 15.4 (x86_64) Desktop Environment: Trinity Qt: 3.5.0 TDE: R14.1.0 tde-config: 1.0

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[offtopic] Cheap Windows Keys
by Michael 19 Jul '23

19 Jul '23

Okay, this is offtopic for this list*, and I'm not going to make this spam by listing the site selling these, so if you want the links reply to me personally. I needed a Win10 Pro key and found a legit one for under US $4. M$ even installed with it ;) The site recently sent me an additional 10% off Discount Code: “Chimp” , not sure if it works anymore. Here’s the current prices: $3.45 - Windows 10 Professional Retail Cd Key Microsoft Global $3.65 - Windows 11 Pro Cd Key Retail Microsoft Global $5.74 - Office 2021 Professional Plus Cd Key Global ISO Download activation $8.63 - Microsoft Office 2021 Home and Business MAC Cd Key Global Figured I'd share, especially if you help out non-profits or the like. Best All, Michael * As so noted in the Subject line, if you don't want to see off topic posts "[offtopic]", use your filters, duh.

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outdated wiki information
by Thierry de Coulon 15 Jul '23

15 Jul '23

While I would not pretend being really a specialist, I do use Trinity (PSB) on MX-Linux. I noted that the installation instructions for MX say "latest version" 14.0.13" on a yellow background. This information is at least outdated. What should be done tu update this? Thierry

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TDM hangs at the exit!!!
by Roman Savochenko 14 Jul '23

14 Jul '23

Hi In TDE14.1 the bug 2806 <https://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2806> became even worse, that is the system often hangs at the exit on the black screen even with the SDM patch!!! In my case that is Debian 11. Regards, Roman

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Problems since Bookworm migration, root rights
by ajh-valmer 12 Jul '23

12 Jul '23

Hello, Since migration to Bookworm, I cannot modifiy all the files : /opt/trinity/share/apps/kdesktop/Desktop/.... I receive this message : "cannot make a save copy of the original document". Of cource, I changed the rights with chmod 775, the message is the same. On my other computer with Bullseye, never had this message, and the rights are 755. What happens ? Thanks, Cheers, André

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Cleaning default keyboard layouts
by Roman Savochenko 12 Jul '23

12 Jul '23

Hi TDE 14.1.0 is cleaning up the default layouts from /etc/default/keyboard, so KKBSwitch doesn't work now. New users with clean configuration also cannot to switch the keyboard layout! Why does that performed for?

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Impossible to dialog with TDELauncher
by ajh-valmer 11 Jul '23

11 Jul '23

Hello again, I created an icon Konqueror to manage files as root, on Debian-12, (passwd asked). I type in the URL : / I have this message : "Impossible to dialog with TDELauncher". On my others computer (Debian-11) it works. Quid ? Cheers, André

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Connect external mouse
by shriya.sharma＠redsemiconductor.com 11 Jul '23

11 Jul '23

I want to connect my external mouse to tde but have no clue as how to do it and it does not detect it for some reason. Any inputs will be appreciated.

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Persistent configuration of multihead screen
by rantalbott＠gmail.com 11 Jul '23

11 Jul '23

Running R14.0.12 on Ubuntu 20.04 I have two 1920x1080 monitors that I use as one 3840x1080 X screen. On startup, TDM has the left and right monitors "swapped". I can manually rearrange them once I'm logged in, but that's annoying. Especially because the configuration program does something weird to the color map on one monitor, so I have to logout and log back in. It would be nice to have a "save configuration" option when doing a manual setup, but I suspect the developers have more important things to do ;-) I've found two suggestions for solving this problem. One is to add an xrandr command to my .xinitrc (which I don't actually have at the moment), and the other is to put a configuration into xorg.conf (which I also don't have now. And which worries me a bit, because the structure of /etc/X11 has changed quite a bit since I last had to fiddle with it, years ago. The Ubuntu installer developers have gotten really good at getting it right automagically...) The latter seems preferable, since it would bring TDM up in the proper configuration, but it's not clear whether I'd need to do a complete X configuration with all the various devices in it. If you have some experience with this, please let me know; a. whether TDM will freak out if I do an xrandr in the middle of login b. how much of an x configuration I need to create to position the monitors, or c. whether there's a TDM config file I can fiddle to make it arrange the monitors. Thanks, Ran

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prevent to launch an application at boot
by ajh-valmer 07 Jul '23

07 Jul '23

Hello, How prevent to launch an application at boot with tde-trinity. The application is "Anydesk". It appears in the down taskbar, right. Thanks, Cheers, André

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Fw: Education Direction
by Alex Cornwell 04 Jul '23

04 Jul '23

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: "Alex Cornwell" <alexcornwell(a)yahoo.com> To: "users(a)trinitydesktop.org" <users(a)trinitydesktop.org> Cc: Sent: Fri, Jun 30, 2023 at 9:18 Subject: Education Direction Hi, all! I love TDE and want to see it thrive for ages to come. Problem is I don't know where to start online education wise. I know I can use places like Linux Foundation and Udemy but what classes does one take? Should I try learning C++? Learn what TQt actually is and does? I just haven't a clue where to start. Thank you for any help you guys can provide. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

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korganizer-trinity
by ajh-valmer 29 Jun '23

29 Jun '23

Hello, Recently, the icon of korganizer-trinity was in the down taskbar, on the right. Now, it has disappeared. "Execute a command" on the desktop => korganizer : it opens, but at next reboot, the icon of korganizer has disappeared again. How to maintain the icon in the taskbar ? Thanks, Cheers André

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Setting Konsole options
by J Leslie Turriff 24 Jun '23

24 Jun '23

I've just installed a package that includes some components that run in a terminal session. The package installed various application icons in KMenu. When I start the component that runs in a terminal, a Konsole session pops up, then immediately closes. See the attached image while reading further. If I open KMenu's Menu Editor to edit the entry it provides only the 'Run in terminal check box', but not the 'Do not close when command exits checkbox'; the only way to access that checkbox is to add the application to the screen's menu bar, right-click the icon, select the 'Configure <program> button...' option, select the Application tab in the Properties dialog, click on 'Advanced Options', and finally the ''Do not close when command exits checkbox' appears. Shouldn't the 'Do not close when command exits checkbox' be presented in the Menu Editor's window as well? Leslie -- Platform: Linux Distribution: openSUSE Leap 15.4 (x86_64) Desktop Environment: Trinity Qt: 3.5.0 TDE: R14.1.0 tde-config: 1.0

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Safe to remove program icons on Trinity Desktop without removing the apps themselves?
by jim_gunn＠yahoo.com 23 Jun '23

23 Jun '23

I'm brand new to Linux and just installed the Trinity desktop with Q4OS on a older pc. One thing I am unclear about- are the shortcut icons on the Trinity desktop that came with my distro installation for example, LibreOffice or Thunderbird able to be deleted or removed from the desktop without removing the apps themselves just like on a Windows desktop where the icons are just shortcuts and can be deleted safely without removing the apps themselves?

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Anyone else think 14.1.x slowed things down?
by Felix Miata 18 Jun '23

18 Jun '23

This is an early dual core, but it seems as though it has gotten slower reaching the login screen since the upgrade from 14.0.13, here, more than four minutes from beginning of journal until TDM paints: # inxi -CIS System: Host: gx620 Kernel: 6.2.12-1-default arch: x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: Trinity Distro: openSUSE Tumbleweed 20230603 CPU: Info: dual core model: Intel Pentium D bits: 64 type: MCP cache: L2: 4 MiB Speed (MHz): avg: 2993 min/max: N/A cores: 1: 2993 2: 2993 Info: Processes: 139 Uptime: 0h 11m Memory: 3.38 GiB used: 417.9 MiB (12.1%) Shell: Bash inxi: 3.3.26 # pinxi -Gaz --vs --zl --hostname pinxi 3.3.27-04 (2023-05-31) Graphics: Device-1: Intel 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics vendor: Dell driver: i915 v: kernel arch: Gen-3.5 process: Intel 90nm built: 2005-06 ports: active: VGA-1 empty: none bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:2772 class-ID: 0300 Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 21.1.8 driver: X: loaded: intel unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa dri: i915 gpu: i915 display-ID: :0 screens: 1 Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1680x1050 s-dpi: 108 s-size: 395x246mm (15.55x9.69") s-diag: 465mm (18.32") Monitor-1: VGA-1 mapped: VGA1 model: Dell P2213 serial: <filter> built: 2012 res: 1680x1050 hz: 60 dpi: 91 gamma: 1.2 size: 470x300mm (18.5x11.81") diag: 558mm (22") ratio: 16:10 modes: max: 1680x1050 min: 720x400 API: OpenGL v: 2.1 Mesa 23.0.3 renderer: i915 (: 945G) direct-render: Yes # journalctl -b --no-host | grep -E 'l: Command l|tdm|rinit' Jun 04 16:44:37 kernel: Command line: root=... noresume preempt=full mitigations=none Jun 04 16:46:09 display-manager[717]: Starting service tdm Jun 04 16:48:45 dbus-daemon[616]: [system] Activating service name='org.trinitydesktop.hardwarecontrol' requested by ':1.10' (uid=0 pid=838 comm="/opt/trinity/bin/tdm_greet") (using servicehelper) Jun 04 16:48:45 org.trinitydesktop.hardwarecontrol[855]: [tde_dbus_hardwarecontrol] Listening... Jun 04 16:48:45 dbus-daemon[616]: [system] Successfully activated service 'org.trinitydesktop.hardwarecontrol' Jun 04 16:48:46 org.trinitydesktop.hardwarecontrol[855]: [tde_dbus_hardwarecontrol] Name acquired: :1.11 Jun 04 16:48:47 org.trinitydesktop.hardwarecontrol[855]: [tde_dbus_hardwarecontrol] Name acquired: org.trinitydesktop.hardwarecontrol # systemd-analyze Startup finished in 3.519s (kernel) + 15.292s (initrd) + 1min 46.790s (userspace) = 2min 5.602s graphical.target reached after 1min 19.996s in userspace. # systemd-analyze critical-chain ... graphical.target @1min 19.996s └─display-manager.service @1min 7.367s +10.192s └─systemd-logind.service @1min 6.614s +734ms └─nss-user-lookup.target @1min 5.849s └─nscd.service @1min 2.656s +3.189s └─basic.target @1min 2.241s └─sockets.target @1min 2.240s └─telnet.socket @1min 2.240s └─sysinit.target @1min 1.976s └─systemd-update-utmp.service @1min 1.760s +215ms └─systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service @1min 536ms +1.195s └─local-fs.target @1min 403ms └─run-credentials-systemd\x2dtmpfiles\x2dsetup.service.mount @1min 552ms └─local-fs-pre.target @11.668s └─lvm2-monitor.service @5.147s +6.519s └─dm-event.socket @5.092s └─system.slice └─-.slice # systemd-analyze blame | head -11 42.795s systemd-journal-flush.service 37.680s dev-disk-by\x2did-scsi\x2d0ATA_ST1000DL002\x2d9TT1_W1V0G6JD\x2dpart6.device 37.680s dev-sda6.device 37.680s dev-disk-by\x2did-scsi\x2dSATA_ST1000DL002\x2d9TT1_W1V0G6JD\x2dpart6.device 37.680s dev-disk-by\x2did-scsi\x2d1ATA_ST1000DL002\x2d9TT153_W1V0G6JD\x2dpart6.device 37.680s dev-disk-by\x2ddiskseq-10\x2dpart6.device 37.680s sys-devices-pci0000:00-0000:00:1f.2-ata3-host2-target2:0:0-2:0:0:0-block-sda-sda6.device 37.680s dev-disk-by\x2duuid-6C9066139065E3D4.device 37.680s dev-disk-by\x2dpath-pci\x2d0000:00:1f.2\x2data\x2d1.0\x2dpart6.device 37.680s dev-disk-by\x2did-scsi\x2d35000c500390ca681\x2dpart6.device 37.680s dev-disk-by\x2dpath-pci\x2d0000:00:1f.2\x2data\x2d1\x2dpart6.device # -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata

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Important backport for TDE R14.1.0 packages
by Slávek Banko 16 Jun '23

16 Jun '23

Hi everyone, some users of RPM-based distros reported high CPU usage and general slowness when upgrading from R14.0.x to R14.1.0. The issue has been investigated and the problem resolved in R14.1.1-devel (see https://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/gitea/tde/tde/issues/128). Given the severity of the problem, we have decided to backport the required fixes and release updated builds of the affected packages for R14.1.0. Although the problem only showed up on specific RPM distros, packages have been updated for all distros for consistency. Please make sure you update to the latest available version of all tqt3 and tdelibs packages in your distribution. If you are a PSB/PTB user, you should have already received or will receive the fixes as part of the last/next update. Cheers The TDE dev team

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Toggle keyboard layout + xkbd @ TDE R14.1.0
by Petr Palacký 15 Jun '23

15 Jun '23

Hi folks, after upgrading to R14.1.0 I miss the old way of switching between keyboard layouts with Ctrl+Alt+K. It looks like the option to NOT use xkbd is missing and the only option to toggle is now xkbd. In addition, the keyboard model setting apparently stopped working, in my case "Dell Latitude laptop" - some functions no longer work, e.g. Fn+F1 (for sleep) or Fn+F5 (for touchpad toggle) or Fn+Arrows (for brightness level). Everything worked for over a decade before the upgrade. I prefer TDE because its basic functions have not fundamentally changed since the KDE3 era, and after twenty years of using the shortcut Ctrl+Alt+K, I have a hard time getting used to the "new" shortcuts. Is there any way to revert back to the original keyboard shortcut for switching the keyboard layout? Many thanks Best regards -- Petr Palacky Outgoing message is virus free because we are using Linux. Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm), kernel 6.1.0-2-amd64.

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X wont start with TDM but will with startx
by jacobheinrich＠hotmail.com 14 Jun '23

14 Jun '23

Hey everyone, sorry if this is the wrong place. I am having issues with TDM on my Debian install, it never wants to start x. When I use startx it loads trinity (with broken transparency), but I cant get TDM to work at all. My tdm.log ends with: Jun 10 10:17:44 tdm_config[676] info: Cannot open master configuration file /etc/trinity/tdm/tdmdistrc X.Org X Server 1.21.1.7 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Current Operating System: Linux JacobsLaptop 6.1.0-9-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Debian 6.1.27-1 (2023-05-08) x86_64 Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.1.0-9-amd64 root=UUID=248d85dc-1c76-4bf1-a13a-b0589ac29faf ro quiet xorg-server 2:21.1.7-3 (https://www.debian.org/support) Current version of pixman: 0.42.2 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Sat Jun 10 10:17:44 2023 (==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d" vesa: Ignoring device with a bound kernel driver (EE) Fatal server error: (EE) no screens found(EE) (EE) Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support at http://wiki.x.org for help. (EE) Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for additional information. (EE) (EE) Server terminated with error (1). Closing log file. Jun 10 10:17:44 tdm[671] error: X server died during startup Jun 10 10:17:44 tdm[671] error: X server for display :0 can't be started, session disabled And my xorg.0.log looks like: X.Org X Server 1.21.1.7 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 [ 4.821] Current Operating System: Linux JacobsLaptop 6.1.0-9-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Debian 6.1.27-1 (2023-05-08) x86_64 [ 4.821] Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.1.0-9-amd64 root=UUID=248d85dc-1c76-4bf1-a13a-b0589ac29faf ro quiet [ 4.821] xorg-server 2:21.1.7-3 (https://www.debian.org/support) [ 4.821] Current version of pixman: 0.42.2 [ 4.821] Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. [ 4.821] Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. [ 4.821] (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Sat Jun 10 10:17:44 2023 [ 4.822] (==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d" [ 4.823] (==) No Layout section. Using the first Screen section. [ 4.823] (==) No screen section available. Using defaults. [ 4.823] (**) |-->Screen "Default Screen Section" (0) [ 4.823] (**) | |-->Monitor "<default monitor>" [ 4.824] (==) No monitor specified for screen "Default Screen Section". Using a default monitor configuration. [ 4.824] (==) Automatically adding devices [ 4.824] (==) Automatically enabling devices [ 4.824] (==) Automatically adding GPU devices [ 4.824] (==) Automatically binding GPU devices [ 4.824] (==) Max clients allowed: 256, resource mask: 0x1fffff [ 4.824] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic" does not exist. [ 4.824] Entry deleted from font path. [ 4.824] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/" does not exist. [ 4.824] Entry deleted from font path. [ 4.824] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/" does not exist. [ 4.824] Entry deleted from font path. [ 4.825] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi" does not exist. [ 4.825] Entry deleted from font path. [ 4.825] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi" does not exist. [ 4.825] Entry deleted from font path. [ 4.825] (==) FontPath set to: /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc, /usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1, built-ins [ 4.825] (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib/xorg/modules" [ 4.825] (II) The server relies on udev to provide the list of input devices. If no devices become available, reconfigure udev or disable AutoAddDevices. [ 4.825] (II) Loader magic: 0x556089395f00 [ 4.825] (II) Module ABI versions: [ 4.825] X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4 [ 4.825] X.Org Video Driver: 25.2 [ 4.825] X.Org XInput driver : 24.4 [ 4.825] X.Org Server Extension : 10.0 [ 4.826] (++) using VT number 7 [ 4.826] (II) systemd-logind: logind integration requires -keeptty and -keeptty was not provided, disabling logind integration [ 4.832] (--) PCI:*(0@0:2:0) 8086:1916:1028:07a7 rev 7, Mem @ 0xee000000/16777216, 0xd0000000/268435456, I/O @ 0x0000f000/64, BIOS @ 0x????????/131072 [ 4.832] (II) LoadModule: "glx" [ 4.833] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so [ 4.837] (II) Module glx: vendor="X.Org Foundation" [ 4.838] compiled for 1.21.1.7, module version = 1.0.0 [ 4.838] ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 10.0 [ 4.838] (==) Matched modesetting as autoconfigured driver 0 [ 4.838] (==) Matched fbdev as autoconfigured driver 1 [ 4.838] (==) Matched vesa as autoconfigured driver 2 [ 4.838] (==) Assigned the driver to the xf86ConfigLayout [ 4.838] (II) LoadModule: "modesetting" [ 4.838] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/modesetting_drv.so [ 4.838] (II) Module modesetting: vendor="X.Org Foundation" [ 4.838] compiled for 1.21.1.7, module version = 1.21.1 [ 4.838] Module class: X.Org Video Driver [ 4.838] ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 25.2 [ 4.838] (II) LoadModule: "fbdev" [ 4.838] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/fbdev_drv.so [ 4.839] (II) Module fbdev: vendor="X.Org Foundation" [ 4.839] compiled for 1.21.1.3, module version = 0.5.0 [ 4.839] Module class: X.Org Video Driver [ 4.839] ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 25.2 [ 4.839] (II) LoadModule: "vesa" [ 4.839] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/vesa_drv.so [ 4.839] (II) Module vesa: vendor="X.Org Foundation" [ 4.839] compiled for 1.21.1.3, module version = 2.5.0 [ 4.839] Module class: X.Org Video Driver [ 4.839] ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 25.2 [ 4.839] (II) modesetting: Driver for Modesetting Kernel Drivers: kms [ 4.839] (II) FBDEV: driver for framebuffer: fbdev [ 4.839] (II) VESA: driver for VESA chipsets: vesa [ 4.840] (EE) open /dev/dri/card0: No such file or directory [ 4.840] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for modesetting [ 4.840] (EE) open /dev/dri/card0: No such file or directory [ 4.840] (II) Loading sub module "fbdevhw" [ 4.841] (II) LoadModule: "fbdevhw" [ 4.841] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libfbdevhw.so [ 4.841] (II) Module fbdevhw: vendor="X.Org Foundation" [ 4.841] compiled for 1.21.1.7, module version = 0.0.2 [ 4.841] ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 25.2 [ 4.841] (EE) Unable to find a valid framebuffer device [ 4.841] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for fbdev [ 4.841] (II) Loading sub module "fbdevhw" [ 4.841] (II) LoadModule: "fbdevhw" [ 4.841] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libfbdevhw.so [ 4.841] (II) Module fbdevhw: vendor="X.Org Foundation" [ 4.841] compiled for 1.21.1.7, module version = 0.0.2 [ 4.841] ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 25.2 [ 4.841] (EE) open /dev/fb0: No such file or directory [ 4.841] vesa: Ignoring device with a bound kernel driver [ 4.841] (EE) Screen 0 deleted because of no matching config section. [ 4.841] (II) UnloadModule: "modesetting" [ 4.841] (EE) Screen 0 deleted because of no matching config section. [ 4.841] (II) UnloadModule: "fbdev" [ 4.841] (II) UnloadSubModule: "fbdevhw" [ 4.842] (EE) Screen 0 deleted because of no matching config section. [ 4.842] (II) UnloadModule: "vesa" [ 4.842] (EE) Device(s) detected, but none match those in the config file. [ 4.842] (EE) Fatal server error: [ 4.842] (EE) no screens found(EE) [ 4.842] (EE) Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support at http://wiki.x.org for help. [ 4.842] (EE) Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for additional information. [ 4.842] (EE) [ 4.842] (EE) Server terminated with error (1). Closing log file.

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Konsole 'Edit Bookmarks' dialog's Toolbar ignores changes
by J Leslie Turriff 14 Jun '23

14 Jun '23

When I try to customize Konsole's 'Edit Bookmarks' dialog's Toolbar by right-clicking the bar and dragging in additional tools, my changes are ignored. When I use Settings => Configure Toolbars..., that works; but I almost never use the Settings menu for that, because not all applications have the option there. Leslie -- Platform: Linux Distribution: openSUSE Leap 15.4 (x86_64) Desktop Environment: Trinity Qt: 3.5.0 TDE: R14.1.0 tde-config: 1.0

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How to disable web browsing in Konqueror?
by Michael 14 Jun '23

14 Jun '23

Since we’re chatting about Konqueror, is there an easy way to either disable its web browsing features or block its off-box access? I love Konq, but it occasional (very rarely, but happened earlier this week) thinks a file I click is a web page instead of opening it in a local program (KWrite, LibreOffice, or whatever). Thanks, Michael

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Panels only appear on desktop #1
by J Leslie Turriff 02 Jun '23

02 Jun '23

I've installed Trinity R14.10 on a new laptop, and it has the default four desktops configured, but the main panel only appears on desktop #1. I don't remember seeing this happen on any of my previous installs. I have made minimal changes to the desktop settings, just removing default wallpaper, setting fonts, and such, so this is a bit odd. Leslie -- Platform: Linux Distribution: openSUSE Leap 15.4 (x86_64) Desktop Environment: Trinity Qt: 3.5.0 TDE: R14.1.0 tde-config: 1.0

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Re: Problem installing Trinity in Debian
by J Leslie Turriff 01 Jun '23

01 Jun '23

Hello, > I bought a new laptop for my brother and I've installed Debian 11.7 on it (with the > default Gnome DE), but when (installing from USB stick) I try to select a mirror to > download packages I get this: > | Jun 1 09:50:59 choose-mirror[31078]: WARNING **: mirror does not support the specified > release (bullseye) > This has happened with both http://deb.debian.org/ and http://ftp.us.debian.org/ (!) > I also tried installing without using a mirror for additional packages, but then > apt-get doesn't work because of missing configuration files. I get the same results with every mirror. The failing command for a typical mirror is e.g. | wget --no-verbose http://deb.debian.org/debian/dists/bullseye/Release -O - | grep -E '^(Suite| Codename|Architectures):' > Help! :-) Leslie -- Platform: Linux Distribution: openSUSE Leap 15.4 (x86_64) Desktop Environment: Trinity Qt: 3.5.0 TDE: R14.1.0 tde-config: 1.0

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Problem installing Trinity in Debian
by J Leslie Turriff 01 Jun '23

01 Jun '23

Hello, I bought a new laptop for my brother and I've installed Debian 11.7 on it (with the default Gnome DE), but when (installing from USB stick) I try to select a mirror to download packages I get this: | Jun 1 09:50:59 choose-mirror[31078]: WARNING **: mirror does not support the specified release (bullseye) This has happened with both http://deb.debian.org/ and http://ftp.us.debian.org/ (!) I also tried installing without using a mirror for additional packages, but then apt-get doesn't work because of missing configuration files. Help! :-) Leslie -- Platform: Linux Distribution: openSUSE Leap 15.4 (x86_64) Desktop Environment: Trinity Qt: 3.5.0 TDE: R14.1.0 tde-config: 1.0

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~/.xsessionrc: osd_clock is not showing up on display anymore
by Stefan Krusche 01 Jun '23

01 Jun '23

Good day! After a recent update (see below) starting 'osd_clock' in ~/.xsessionrc does not work properly anymore. Osd_clock is an on-screen clock which is projected to the root window and through all program windows (on top). My setup: I have 'osd_clock' started in ~/.xsessionrc like this: exec osd_clock -r -o 10 -s 0 -F '%A, %d.%m.%Y :: %R Uhr ·%S·' & On my system (devuan beowulf) ~/.xsessionrc is sourced by /etc/X11/Xsession.d/40x11-common_xsessionrc which is sourced by /etc/X11/Xsession which is sourced by /etc/trinity/tdm/Xsession. This used to work for years. Problem behaviour: --- When I now log in into TDM, osd_clock briefly appears and then vanishes just before TDM starts the X-session. --- After that osd_clock is a running process, but does not show up in the display. $ ps aux | grep osd_clock stekru 3788 0.0 0.0 96124 4000 ? Sl 09:45 0:00 osd_clock -r -o 10 -s 0 -F %A, %d.%m. %Y :: %R Uhr ·%S· --- Apparently osd_clock is running with no terminal (the "?"). A manually started osd_clock is running fine and shows up like this (second line): $ ps aux | grep osd_clock stekru 3788 0.0 0.0 96124 4000 ? Sl 09:45 0:00 osd_clock -r -o 10 -s 0 -F %A, %d.%m. %Y :: %R Uhr ·%S· stekru 7871 0.0 0.0 96128 4036 pts/3 Sl 10:52 0:00 osd_clock -r -o 10 -s 0 -F %A, %d.%m. %Y :: %R Uhr ·%S· --- Meanwhile I found a workaround: start osd_clock with option "-w 5" to wait five seconds before showing up. Why does osd_clock not "find" the terminal (pts/3) anymore? I have no idea how to debug this further. Any help is appreciated. --- Before this symptom appeared I had upgraded some TDE packages (from /var/log/apt/history.log, redacted for readability): Start-Date: 2023-05-30 22:10:13 Commandline: apt-get upgrade Upgrade: ark-trinity:amd64 (4:14.1.0-0debian10.0.0+0, 4:14.2.0~pre1-0debian10.0.0+0), dcoprss-trinity:amd64 (4:14.1.0-0debian10.0.0+0, 4:14.2.0~pre1-0debian10.0.0+0), kappfinder-trinity:amd64 (4:14.2.0~pre8-0debian10.0.0+1, 4:14.2.0~pre10-0debian10.0.0+1), kate-trinity:amd64 (4:14.2.0~pre8-0debian10.0.0+1, 4:14.2.0~pre10-0debian10.0.0+1), kcalc-trinity:amd64 (4:14.1.0-0debian10.0.0+0, 4:14.2.0~pre1-0debian10.0.0+0), kcharselect-trinity:amd64 (4:14.1.0-0debian10.0.0+0, 4:14.2.0~pre1-0debian10.0.0+0), kcontrol-trinity:amd64 (4:14.2.0~pre8-0debian10.0.0+1, 4:14.2.0~pre10-0debian10.0.0+1), kdesktop-trinity:amd64 (4:14.2.0~pre8-0debian10.0.0+1, 4:14.2.0~pre10-0debian10.0.0+1), kdf-trinity:amd64 (4:14.1.0-0debian10.0.0+0, 4:14.2.0~pre1-0debian10.0.0+0), kdict-trinity:amd64 (4:14.1.0-0debian10.0.0+0, 4:14.2.0~pre1-0debian10.0.0+0), kedit-trinity:amd64 (4:14.1.0-0debian10.0.0+0, 4:14.2.0~pre1-0debian10.0.0+0), kfind-trinity:amd64 (4:14.2.0~pre8-0debian10.0.0+1, 4:14.2.0~pre10-0debian10.0.0+1), kfloppy-trinity:amd64 (4:14.1.0-0debian10.0.0+0, 4:14.2.0~pre1-0debian10.0.0+0), kget-trinity:amd64 (4:14.1.0-0debian10.0.0+0, 4:14.2.0~pre1-0debian10.0.0+0), kgpg-trinity:amd64 (4:14.1.0-0debian10.0.0+0, 4:14.2.0~pre1-0debian10.0.0+0), khelpcenter-trinity:amd64 (4:14.2.0~pre8-0debian10.0.0+1, 4:14.2.0~pre10-0debian10.0.0+1), khexedit-trinity:amd64 (4:14.1.0-0debian10.0.0+0, 4:14.2.0~pre1-0debian10.0.0+0), kicker-trinity:amd64 (4:14.2.0~pre8-0debian10.0.0+1, 4:14.2.0~pre10-0debian10.0.0+1), kjots-trinity:amd64 (4:14.1.0-0debian10.0.0+0, 4:14.2.0~pre1-0debian10.0.0+0), klaptopdaemon-trinity:amd64 (4:14.1.0-0debian10.0.0+0, 4:14.2.0~pre1-0debian10.0.0+0), klipper-trinity:amd64 (4:14.2.0~pre8-0debian10.0.0+1, 4:14.2.0~pre10-0debian10.0.0+1), kmenuedit-trinity:amd64 (4:14.2.0~pre8-0debian10.0.0+1, 4:14.2.0~pre10-0debian10.0.0+1), kmilo-trinity:amd64 (4:14.1.0-0debian10.0.0+0, 4:14.2.0~pre1-0debian10.0.0+0), knewsticker-trinity:amd64 (4:14.1.0-0debian10.0.0+0, 4:14.2.0~pre1-0debian10.0.0+0), konqueror-nsplugins-trinity:amd64 (4:14.2.0~pre8-0debian10.0.0+1, 4:14.2.0~pre10-0debian10.0.0+1), konqueror-trinity:amd64 (4:14.2.0~pre8-0debian10.0.0+1, 4:14.2.0~pre10-0debian10.0.0+1), konsole-trinity:amd64 (4:14.2.0~pre8-0debian10.0.0+1, 4:14.2.0~pre10-0debian10.0.0+1), kopete-trinity:amd64 (4:14.1.0-0debian10.0.0+0, 4:14.2.0~pre1-0debian10.0.0+0), kpager-trinity:amd64 (4:14.2.0~pre8-0debian10.0.0+1, 4:14.2.0~pre10-0debian10.0.0+1), kpersonalizer-trinity:amd64 (4:14.2.0~pre8-0debian10.0.0+1, 4:14.2.0~pre10-0debian10.0.0+1), kpf-trinity:amd64 (4:14.1.0-0debian10.0.0+0, 4:14.2.0~pre1-0debian10.0.0+0), kppp-trinity:amd64 (4:14.1.0-0debian10.0.0+0, 4:14.2.0~pre1-0debian10.0.0+0), krdc-trinity:amd64 (4:14.1.0-0debian10.0.0+0, 4:14.2.0~pre1-0debian10.0.0+0), kregexpeditor-trinity:amd64 (4:14.1.0-0debian10.0.0+0, 4:14.2.0~pre1-0debian10.0.0+0), krfb-trinity:amd64 (4:14.1.0-0debian10.0.0+0, 4:14.2.0~pre1-0debian10.0.0+0), ksim-trinity:amd64 (4:14.1.0-0debian10.0.0+0, 4:14.2.0~pre1-0debian10.0.0+0), ksirc-trinity:amd64 (4:14.1.0-0debian10.0.0+0, 4:14.2.0~pre1-0debian10.0.0+0), ksmserver-trinity:amd64 (4:14.2.0~pre8-0debian10.0.0+1, 4:14.2.0~pre10-0debian10.0.0+1), ksplash-trinity:amd64 (4:14.2.0~pre8-0debian10.0.0+1, 4:14.2.0~pre10-0debian10.0.0+1), ksysguard-trinity:amd64 (4:14.2.0~pre8-0debian10.0.0+1, 4:14.2.0~pre10-0debian10.0.0+1), ksysguardd-trinity:amd64 (4:14.2.0~pre8-0debian10.0.0+1, 4:14.2.0~pre10-0debian10.0.0+1), ktimer-trinity:amd64 (4:14.1.0-0debian10.0.0+0, 4:14.2.0~pre1-0debian10.0.0+0), ktip-trinity:amd64 (4:14.2.0~pre8-0debian10.0.0+1, 4:14.2.0~pre10-0debian10.0.0+1), kwifimanager-trinity:amd64 (4:14.1.0-0debian10.0.0+0, 4:14.2.0~pre1-0debian10.0.0+0), libkonq4-trinity:amd64 (4:14.2.0~pre8-0debian10.0.0+1, 4:14.2.0~pre10-0debian10.0.0+1), librss1-trinity:amd64 (4:14.1.0-0debian10.0.0+0, 4:14.2.0~pre1-0debian10.0.0+0), libtdebluez-trinity:amd64 (4:14.2.0~pre19-0debian10.0.0+1, 4:14.2.0~pre20-0debian10.0.0+1), libtdeobex-trinity:amd64 (4:14.2.0~pre19-0debian10.0.0+1, 4:14.2.0~pre20-0debian10.0.0+1), libtqt3-integration-trinity:amd64 (4:14.2.0~pre8-0debian10.0.0+1, 4:14.2.0~pre10-0debian10.0.0+1), mx-packageinstaller:amd64 (23.5.02, 23.5.03), superkaramba-trinity:amd64 (4:14.1.0-0debian10.0.0+0, 4:14.2.0~pre1-0debian10.0.0+0), sysstat:amd64 (12.0.3-2+deb10u1, 12.0.3-2+deb10u2), tde-i18n-de-trinity:amd64 (4:14.2.0~pre29-0debian10.0.0+0, 4:14.2.0~pre46-0debian10.0.0+0), tde-i18n-engb-trinity:amd64 (4:14.2.0~pre29-0debian10.0.0+0, 4:14.2.0~pre46-0debian10.0.0+0), tde-i18n-ru-trinity:amd64 (4:14.2.0~pre29-0debian10.0.0+0, 4:14.2.0~pre46-0debian10.0.0+0), tdebase-data-trinity:amd64 (4:14.2.0~pre8-0debian10.0.0+1, 4:14.2.0~pre10-0debian10.0.0+1), tdebase-runtime-data-common-trinity:amd64 (4:14.2.0~pre8-0debian10.0.0+1, 4:14.2.0~pre10-0debian10.0.0+1), tdebase-tdeio-plugins-trinity:amd64 (4:14.2.0~pre8-0debian10.0.0+1, 4:14.2.0~pre10-0debian10.0.0+1) tdebase-tdeio-smb-trinity:amd64 (4:14.2.0~pre8-0debian10.0.0+1, 4:14.2.0~pre10-0debian10.0.0+1), tdebase-trinity-bin:amd64 (4:14.2.0~pre8-0debian10.0.0+1, 4:14.2.0~pre10-0debian10.0.0+1), tdebase-trinity-doc-html:amd64 (4:14.2.0~pre8-0debian10.0.0+1, 4:14.2.0~pre10-0debian10.0.0+1), tdebase-trinity:amd64 (4:14.2.0~pre8-0debian10.0.0+1, 4:14.2.0~pre10-0debian10.0.0+1), tdebluez-trinity:amd64 (4:14.2.0~pre19-0debian10.0.0+1, 4:14.2.0~pre20-0debian10.0.0+1), tdednssd-trinity:amd64 (4:14.1.0-0debian10.0.0+0, 4:14.2.0~pre1-0debian10.0.0+0), tdefilereplace-trinity:amd64 (4:14.1.0-0debian10.0.0+0, 4:14.2.0~pre1-0debian10.0.0+0), tdelirc-trinity:amd64 (4:14.1.0-0debian10.0.0+0, 4:14.2.0~pre1-0debian10.0.0+0), tdenetwork-filesharing-trinity:amd64 (4:14.1.0-0debian10.0.0+0, 4:14.2.0~pre1-0debian10.0.0+0), tdenetwork-tdefile-plugins-trinity:amd64 (4:14.1.0-0debian10.0.0+0, 4:14.2.0~pre1-0debian10.0.0+0), tdenetwork-trinity-doc-html:amd64 (4:14.1.0-0debian10.0.0+0, 4:14.2.0~pre1-0debian10.0.0+0), tdenetwork-trinity:amd64 (4:14.1.0-0debian10.0.0+0, 4:14.2.0~pre1-0debian10.0.0+0), tdepasswd-trinity:amd64 (4:14.2.0~pre8-0debian10.0.0+1, 4:14.2.0~pre10-0debian10.0.0+1), tdeprint-trinity:amd64 (4:14.2.0~pre8-0debian10.0.0+1, 4:14.2.0~pre10-0debian10.0.0+1), tdessh-trinity:amd64 (4:14.1.0-0debian10.0.0+0, 4:14.2.0~pre1-0debian10.0.0+0), tdeutils-trinity-doc-html:amd64 (4:14.1.0-0debian10.0.0+0, 4:14.2.0~pre1-0debian10.0.0+0), tdeutils-trinity:amd64 (4:14.1.0-0debian10.0.0+0, 4:14.2.0~pre1-0debian10.0.0+0), tdewalletmanager-trinity:amd64 (4:14.1.0-0debian10.0.0+0, 4:14.2.0~pre1-0debian10.0.0+0), tdm-trinity:amd64 (4:14.2.0~pre8-0debian10.0.0+1, 4:14.2.0~pre10-0debian10.0.0+1), twin-trinity:amd64 (4:14.2.0~pre8-0debian10.0.0+1, 4:14.2.0~pre10-0debian10.0.0+1), End-Date: 2023-05-30 22:10:34

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kontact burning CPU increases since last upgrade
by deloptes 31 May '23

31 May '23

Hi, I am using kontact for mail, calendar, contacts and news Since last upgrade I have to restart it regularly, because over time it burns more and more CPU. Does anyone has any idea how to find out what is going on? thanks BR

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Complete breakage of KRFB and KRDC
by Roman Savochenko 27 May '23

27 May '23

Hi Tell me please, the moving of KRFB and KRDC to the standalone libvnc in 14.1.0, this is for complete breakage of KRFB and KRDC or I misunderstand something? :) KRFB is just dead cycling in some QObject destructor at any connection before the password transmission even. KRDC shows the remote screen, but it is hanging mostly, when there impossible to close the program, only kill. Whether I must downgrade the KRFB and KRDC code back to 14.0.13?

5 9

Folders with locale
by ajh-valmer 23 May '23

23 May '23

Hello, In my "/home/andre" I have these 3 folders : TÃ©lÃ©chargements Téléchargements Vid©lÃ©os Vidéos ModÃšles Modèles If I delete TÃ©lÃ©chargements, Vid©lÃ©os and ModÃšles, at the next boot, they are automatically recreated. How to avoid this recreation ? localectl status System Locale: LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8 VC Keymap: (unset) X11 Layout: fr X11 Model: pc105 X11 Variant: latin9 In console mode the accented characters cannot be displayed, as é, à, è, ù... Thanks, Cheers, André

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fonts changed in Kmail message body
by William Morder 23 May '23

23 May '23

Okay so this is another kinda weird one. I have been sitting on it for a couple weeks, just to make sure it wasn't something stupid that I did myself, or something that could be easily corrected, or whatever. On the surface, it's just another one of those trivial annoyances that doesn't matter much in the big scheme of things. But I think it's a bug, or some kind of deeper issue. I have accordingly tried to include as much relevant information as possible. Please feel free to trim in the responses. When I upgraded my system, Kmail now will not display my chosen font for the message body. I tend to prefer a bookish font myself, but they don't always display. For web creation stuff, for example, its good to do a little research on web-safe fonts, which are supposed to display on any page on any machine, etc. But this is, again, my own machine, so if I can get it to work, then it should not matter to anybody else; it's not like I am forcing others to use desktop that looks exactly like mine. Now, what's peculiar about this is that it only seems to affect the message body of the emails that I have received (and may or may not be reading). As I compose this email - the very words that you are reading at this moment - the message body of my own draft looks right.* [* Please see attachments for proof by screenshots. You will note that I enclosed a couple older screenshots that I still had in that folder, plus a couple more recent ones. The more recent ones show how my Kmail behaves differently between the message body in the composer, where it uses my chosen font, and the message display, where it seems to be forcing some version of mono.] I did switch round, try out some other fonts, bookish or not-so-much, but the song remains the same: I still get stuck with a font that looks like some version of mono. Not that it's totally illegible, and probably wouldn't bother others, but I do really hate reading ugly fonts. I'll keep digging, but so far, but I have been digging now for a couple weeks, and nothing changes, no clues, no progress. Any help will be appreciated. Don't have the slightest inkling what caused it, as I have been using Kmail like this since it was KDE3, back in the antediluvian days of about 2006 or so. I *ever* haven't changed a thing except the display font for Kmail; and last time I changed that was about five years ago. Otherwise, things have worked pretty much the same since day one, across multiple machines, users, operating systems, upgrades, and everything else that has happened between then and now. Bill P.S. For the record, I am running Devuan Chimaera 4.x (whatever is the current upgrade version), kernel verion is 5.10.0-23-amd64, and my Trinity desktop is given as R14.1.1~[DEVELOPMENT]. (I copied this from the display page for Trinity Control Center.) My current sources list; just the main and preliminary stable builds. # Trinity - TDE deb http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/deb/trinity-r14.0.x chimaera main deb http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/deb/trinity-builddeps-r14.0.x chimaera main deb-src http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/deb/trinity-r14.0.x chimaera main deb-src http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/deb/trinity-builddeps-r14.0.x chimaera main # Trinity preliminary stable builds deb http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/deb/trinity-sb chimaera deps-r14 main-r14 deb-src http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/deb/trinity-sb chimaera deps-r14 main-r14

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This error related to TDE?
by Michael 21 May '23

21 May '23

I'm not sure what part of gtk TDE does, but saw this on an update today and was wondering if it's related to TDE or not. Best, Michael The following packages will be upgraded: cups-browsed cups-filters cups-filters-core-drivers libcupsfilters1 libfontembed1 libkpathsea6 libptexenc1 libsynctex2 libtexlua52 libtexlua53 libtexluajit2 texlive-binaries ... Processing triggers for install-info (6.5.0.dfsg.1-4+b1) ... install-info: warning: no info dir entry in `/usr/share/info/gtkdialog.info.gz'

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konqueror man: ioslave weirdness
by J Leslie Turriff 21 May '23

21 May '23

I created a separate account with default settings, to do software development. In konqueror, I added a tab dedicated to man:/, but when I click on any of the man section links instead of opening them in that tab it sends them to Firefox(!) That doesn't happen in the konqueror in my regular account. What might be the cause? Leslie -- Platform: Linux Distribution: openSUSE Leap 15.4 (x86_64) Desktop Environment: Trinity Qt: 3.5.0 TDE: R14.1.0 tde-config: 1.0

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14.1.0 is a sluggard so far :(
by Felix Miata 20 May '23

20 May '23

top - 15:39:53 up 18 min, 3 users, load average: 18.96, 18.45, 12.64 Tasks: 181 total, 19 running, 162 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie %Cpu(s): 82.3 us, 17.7 sy, 0.0 ni, 0.0 id, 0.0 wa, 0.0 hi, 0.0 si, 0.0 st MiB Mem : 15976.2 total, 14870.2 free, 352.4 used, 753.6 buff/cache MiB Swap: 1027.6 total, 1027.6 free, 0.0 used. 15339.7 avail Mem PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 828 root 20 0 53932 26496 21248 R 87.5 0.2 15:55.40 tdecryptocardwa 837 root 20 0 40064 9100 7040 R 87.5 0.1 16:11.58 dcopserver 1606 root 20 0 40200 9200 6912 R 50.0 0.1 3:11.87 dcopserver 1610 root 20 0 49856 21040 16816 R 43.8 0.1 3:13.08 kded 1634 root 20 0 52144 22548 17408 R 12.5 0.1 0:10.96 twin 1638 root 20 0 132284 25280 18972 S 12.5 0.2 0:20.96 kdesktop 1653 root 20 0 48084 16404 12544 R 12.5 0.1 0:09.00 kaccess 1664 root 20 0 58672 24980 18176 R 12.5 0.2 0:08.98 tderandrtray # rpmqa twin trinity-twin-14.1.0-1.fc37.x86_64 # inxi -CG CPU: Info: quad core model: AMD Phenom II X4 965 bits: 64 type: MCP cache: L2: 2 MiB Speed (MHz): avg: 3423 min/max: N/A cores: 1: 3423 2: 3423 3: 3423 4: 3423 Graphics: Device-1: NVIDIA GF108 [GeForce GT 630] driver: nouveau v: kernel Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.20.14 driver: X: loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa dri: nouveau gpu: nouveau resolution: 1: 1680x1050~60Hz 2: 1920x1200~60Hz API: OpenGL v: 4.3 Mesa 23.0.3 renderer: NVC1 # From clicking login to finishing reloading of the prior session containing only Konsole and Help Center windows took ~50 seconds, with the vast majority of it on the fifth of seven icons blinking. Other upgrades from 14.0.13 to 14.1.0 seem to be similarly affected, Debian, Fedora, Mageia & openSUSE so far IIRC. Are others noticing this? -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata

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"The process for the sftp://192.168.1.7 protocol died unexpectedly."
by Curt Howland 18 May '23

18 May '23

Ok, this worked last week. Now it doesn't work. Debian Bullseye. Konqueror, "sftp://other-machine/" doesn't work anymore. I have one machine still using TDE 14.0.13, which I expected to work when the machines I updated to TDE 14.1.0 started acting this way, but no. Now none of them are able to sftp to each other in Konqueror. Ssh works just fine between the machines. I'm using shared keys, rather than passwords. Could that be the problem? The error is occurring instead of the pinentry dialog opening up. NB, the pinentry dialog opens just fine for kmail when signing this email. Suggestions? Curt- -- You may my glories and my state dispose, But not my griefs; still am I king of those. --- William Shakespeare, "Richard II"

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TDE R14.1.0 released, new targets started...
by Slávek Banko 16 May '23

16 May '23

Hi all, after R14.1.0 was released, the development windows were open. This time there are two windows - one for the upcoming R14.1.1, the other for the future R14.2.0. The first pull-requests have already been merged and the packages are already waiting in the queue for publishing... If you use a stable R14.0.x series, you should consider performing tests and switching to R14.1.x series, because R14.0.x is now closed and there will be no further releases in this series. If you used to use the Preliminary Testing Builds only temporarily and prefer a little quieter Preliminary Stable Builds, it is time to switch the repository. Likewise, if you used the Preliminary Stable Build only temporarily and prefer quiet waters of stable releases, it is time to switch to repository of official releases R14.1.x. Currently, all repositors are the same - the stable releases R14.1.x, PSB and PTB, so it is a good time to switch between repositories. At the end of this week (May 7) it is planned to restart builds for PTB repository - se there will be the first packages for R14.2.0~pre. At the end of the following week (May 14) it is planned to restart builds for PSB repository - so there will be the first packages for R14.1.1~pre. Thank you for your support! Cheers -- Slávek

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Logout, deconnection, reboot window
by ajh-valmer 12 May '23

12 May '23

Hello, This window is in english. How to make it in french. It is the only element that is in english. The TDE chosen language is French. I don't mind, it's just to know. Cheers André

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Re: how to suppress icons in systray ? sorta half-solved
by William Morder 10 May '23

10 May '23

Okay, so now dig me. :-] I played round with ksystraycmd. It shows how long it's been since I thought about this thing, because after mulling it over a bit, I figured out how to make my own trick. alt-F2 smplayer %f | --pkill ksystraycmd Whatever applies to smplayer here, ought to work with other programs, too. That kills the ghost icon from the start, if I open it from alt-F2, but now I get a plain white vanilla gui interface. I believe I can figure out how to force my own background, and probably how to get all this stuff into the "open with" menu. There's probably an easier way, but at least I can get this to work for me. So I think I'm halfway there. Now for the messier problem: I have all these leftover shortcuts in my "open with" menus. It worst in my oldest folders, of course. Now I'm wondering, Is there's an easy way of getting rid of those unused shortcuts? Bill

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trinity's version of "identify"
by Jim 10 May '23

10 May '23

I recently compiled 14.1.0, and just like my 14.0.13 before it, the TDE "identify" program does not work on much of anything for me. For example, running it on a fairly innocuous JPEG, I get Cannot decode /home/zsd/cyclone-copper.jpg: Unsupported file format or not RAW file whereas the identify that comes with my distro's (Slackware64 15.0, fwiw) imagemagick says cyclone-copper.jpg JPEG 3840x1776 3840x1776+0+0 8-bit sRGB 1.49897MiB 0.000u 0:00.000 I'm trying to track down whether this is (a) a TDE problem, (b) a Slackware64 problem, or (c) a me problem. Would someone mind taking a minute to tell me if trinity's identify works correctly on your system (and what distro you are using)? Thanks. Jim

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Lock Session fails
by Michael 08 May '23

08 May '23

Hi All, Most of the time Lock Session works. But once it fails even manually running the command: dcop kdesktop KScreensaverIface lock does nothing. And then I have to logout and log back in for it to work again. .xsession-errors shows no errors. Both dcop kdesktop KScreensaverIface isEnabled dcop kdesktop KScreensaverIface isBlanked return 'true.' If I understand it right they should both show false when the session is not locked? Anyone know how to use dcop to reset Lock Session so it works again? Thanks, Michael

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security warnings - possibly off-topic
by William Morder 05 May '23

05 May '23

Some of this post may be off-topic, in that it started with a security alert for Devuan; this led me to run some scans of my own system, just to make sure something bad hasn't crept in while I was relaxing, and staying offline most of the time. That Devuan alert is here: https://linuxiac.com/devuan-users-are-at-risk/ https://web.archive.org/web/20230429000520/https://linuxiac.com/devuan-user… I did check my system, and login as root is disabled. At present, I am the only user on any of my machines or devices, and this is usually how it goes for me. If others want to get on the internet or whatever, let them bring their own box. So anyway, I believe that I am probably okay there. But then I decided to run a full scan of my system (still running). When I ran klamav, I got some surprising hits, and some of these look like they ought to be important enough for TDE users to know about. Thus my justification for including the off-topic stuff as well. I am not worried about the OpenOffice/LibreOffice extension, as it is quarantined and I don't use it, but I am curious about what it is, and if it is not perhaps a false positive. Also, I don't care about old emails that are marked as having a spoofed domain. They're archived; someday I'll dig out what they are and why I kept them. What I am most concerned about are those .deb files that I downloaded. The clamav testfiles are supposed to ring the bell, I will guess, because they are made to test the program. But the other files are the boot image, so I wonder if that's normal for the boot image to set off the alarms in my antivirus program? Bill P.S. By the way: thanks to developers for adding klamav back to the great tools available from the old KDE3. I have been missing klamav, because it is much more customizable than other frontends for clamav. There is one called clamtk that sorta worked, but I didn't like it.

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Multiple DCOP sessions
by J Leslie Turriff 03 May '23

03 May '23

I'm getting this strange situation again with DCOP: | @22:01:36,leslie@pinto rc=0 | ~ | $ dcop --user leslie | ERROR: Multiple available TDE sessions! | Please specify the correct session to use with --session or use the | --all-sessions option to broadcast to all sessions. | @22:02:03,leslie@pinto rc=255 | ~ | $ dcop --user leslie --list-sessions | Active sessions for user /home/leslie : | .DCOPserver_pinto__0 | .DCOPserver_pinto__1 | | @22:02:13,leslie@pinto rc=0 | ~ | $ px dcop | leslie 26431 1 0 Apr29 ? 00:00:01 dcopserver [tdeinit] --nosid --suicide | @22:02:20,leslie@pinto rc=0 | ~ | $ dcopserver --help-all | Usage: dcopserver [--nofork] [--nosid] [--help] | dcopserver --serverid | | DCOP is TDE's Desktop Communications Protocol. It is a lightweight IPC/RPC | mechanism built on top of the X Consortium's Inter Client Exchange protocol. | It enables desktop applications to communicate reliably with low overhead. | | Copyright (C) 1999-2001, The KDE Developers <http://www.kde.org> For some reason DCOP says I have two DCOP sessions. .DCOPserver_pinto__0 does not respond to queries, so apparently it's dead or a ghost. .DCOPserver_pinto__1 works normally. I notice also that the output from dcop --help does not include the --suicide option? Is this a clue to what's going on? How do I get rid of the one that doesn't respond? Leslie -- Platform: Linux Distribution: openSUSE Leap 15.4 (x86_64) Desktop Environment: Trinity Qt: 3.5.0 TDE: R14.0.13 tde-config: 1.0

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Archiving kmail folders
by J Leslie Turriff 02 May '23

02 May '23

I haven't tried archiving a folder yet, and there isn't any information in the Handbook about archiving folders. If I archive a folder, how can its content be accessed afterward? Leslie -- Platform: Linux Distribution: openSUSE Leap 15.4 (x86_64) Desktop Environment: Trinity Qt: 3.5.0 TDE: R14.0.13 tde-config: 1.0

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Set resolution *before* login
by Thierry de Coulon 01 May '23

01 May '23

Hello all, I'm setting up a laptop with a 4K screen (it's a Thinkpad P51). This 4K screen will be used to manipulate Photos (with programs that require Windows...). I have installed Linux as well (for everything that does not require M$ stuff) with MX-Linux and TDE. I want to run TDE (and mostly all Linux programs) at 1920x1080. I've managed to do this with xrandr, running from a script that is in /usr/local/share. The last "problem" (with which I can live, just nags me) is that this script visibly is run relatively late, after the login screen, which is then tiny. I first set it up for xfce/lightdm and the scripts are triggered from *.desktop files in ~/.config/autostart. I found an /opt/trinity/share/autostart and hoped it might run thing before login but it does not seem to (or more probably my syntax is not the right one). So the question is: is it possible to set resolution before login, if so how. I'd prefet to continue working with xrandr than hardwiring something in the X configuration file. Thierry

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Headphone and microphone for Linux/Zoom? [offtopic]
by Michael 01 May '23

01 May '23

Anyone have experience using a headphone/microphone on Linux for Zoom meetings? Business use, not gaming. Cheap is good, 100s is out of my price range, and my preference is something with a USB RF dongle. * I’ll need one in the next month or two and personal recommendations are usually way better than some [sales] article off the web. Thanks all, Michael * - I’ve read that Bluetooth connections have latency issues, and - I’d need to dig through my motherboards wiring to setup the 3.5mm jack.

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TDE R14.1.0 release is here!
by Slávek Banko 01 May '23

01 May '23

Hi all, for those who are not subscribed to tde-announcements, you might be interested in information about the release of R14.1.0: https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/announcements@trin… https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Release_Notes_For_R14.1.0 Cheers -- Slávek

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Wrong placed notifications after switching to an other monitor
by Pelim Hurum 24 Apr '23

24 Apr '23

I have a notebook but in most of the time (but not always) use an external monitor. One time I use only one monitor. After switching to external HDMI-1 monitor from LVDS-1 using "Resize and Rotate" the notifications of various panel applets (like TDENetworkManager) appears on desktop in wrong places, far from the right place (from the mouse), using the previous monitor size. The same problem is with Kate. This is very annoying... I did not try to logout since I do not want to loose my session work. Is there any solution? TDE R14.0.9

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Fwd: Re: L-15.5 1st impression
by J Leslie Turriff 22 Apr '23

22 Apr '23

If anyone else in the Trinity community has experienced the flattening of the TDE menu (as I have), this might be a solution to look at. The OP was from someone evaluating openSUSE Leap 15.5 and modern KDE. It's possible that it only affects openSUSE users. Leslie ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: Re: L-15.5 1st impression Date: 2023-04-21, 22:25:00 From: "David C. Rankin" <drankinatty(a)suddenlinkmail.com> To: users(a)lists.opensuse.org On 4/21/23 22:20, David C. Rankin wrote: > On 4/21/23 19:46, bent fender wrote: >> I hope I'm wrong but it looks like 15.4-kde will be my last one. >> >> I haven tried only the kde desktop but I see no way to set up a conventional >> Application launcher with thew cascading menu tree. I even pre-copied an >> entire user folder from 15.4 but none of that had any effect. What I do see >> is a smartphoneish, microcancerish, touchpadish deskdump of which I will >> have none. Tomorrow I'll look at the XFCE setup. > > Your missing out, the KDE3 repo is the best in the world -- and still just as > good as you remember it :) > Oh, You will need to grab the 15.3 desktop-data-openSUSE-15.0.20171024-lp153.1.53.src.rpm for the xdg menu categories (otherwise all items are just dumped in the menu). This change was a result of Gnome -- and it really sucks. This is one addition that should be added to the KDE3 repo -- but it does affect all desktops. Why SUSE let the gnome tail wag the openSUSE dog is bewildering... -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. ------------------------------------------------------- --

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Release Notes and tdebluez
by Mike Bird 21 Apr '23

21 Apr '23

I saw a note - or at least I think I saw a note - in the 14.1.0psb release notes about a new tdebluez. So I tried to install it and failed but by then I had already closed the release notes and could not find them again. (1) It appears that the package is actually - and perhaps redundantly - - called tdebluez-trinity. Unless my memory is playing tricks it might help if the package name and the release notes matched. (2) Because 14.1.0psb is not yet released the (draft) release notes are not yet linked to the regular release notess page: https://www.trinitydesktop.org/releases.php I was also unable to find 14.1.0 release notes through various web searches, from my T menu, or via Trinity Help Center. Is there a canonical way to find/read the release notes of the installed version of TDE? Thanks, --Mike

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how to suppress icons in systray ?
by William Morder 20 Apr '23

20 Apr '23

Thanks for the suggestions about changing the paths in my home folder. Funny, but it's been so long since I did it that I completely forgot it was in the Trinity Control Center. I knew it had to be simple, because last time I thought about it was at least 15 years ago, when I was a total n00b. So here's another issue that suddenly reappears: Whenever I open some programs, an icon automatically pops up in the systray. I can kill these, of course, by running pkill ksystraycmd, but after I do this a few times within, say ten minutes, I get tired of it. Now, I don't mean to kill those icons that I actually want and use; for example, smplayer puts an icon in the systray, and it is actually useful. But when I first start the program, a second icon is generated, too, a sort of ghost icon that serves no real function. This is the bugaboo that I want to suppress, so that it is not generated in the first place. Since I reinstalled my OS, I also inadvertently changed some of my paths, and I believe that this might be a similar issue, because now some apps are generating icons for the systray, apps that never generated icons there before now. This is annoying, as my systray gets cluttered with stuff I don't use; and furthermore, I get duplicates on top of duplicates on top of yet more duplicates. It's one thing to have smplayer's icon, as well as the ghost icon; I kill it, doesn't come back until the next time. But now when I open text files, I get a new icon for each new text file, so that I end up with a dozen useless icons taking up space. I did check TCC under these programs, and this isn't the same thing, where you see a box to tick off for "Place in system tray"; these ghost icons are something else. Any help or suggestions are welcome. Bill

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how to stop Konqueror from recreating unused folders?
by William Morder 17 Apr '23

17 Apr '23

Seems like it ought to be easy enough, especially as it's never happened before, if memory serves me. It's just that there are some folders I don't ever use, or which I have already named myself; for example, my folders have always been named in lower case, but now Konqueror is trying to do my thinking for me, so it has created duplicate empty folders such as Music, Templates, Videos, etc., whereas mine are named music, templates, videos, without the upper case. It doesn't rename my folders, or mess with them, it just adds folders that I don't need, have never used, and don't want, but whenever I try to delete them, Konqueror immediately recreates these folders again. I don't know how I got it like this, as I set up my system like this back in about the years 2006-2008, when I was running KDE3. I want to keep things as I had them. I don't want these duplicates, and don't want just to surrender and rename all my folders in upper case, because that means I would have to go searching through my system for changed file paths. Anybody have a clue how to change this behavior in Konqueror? Thanks for any help or suggestions! Bill

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Control Center / superuser - problem in 14.1.0
by Mike Bird 03 Apr '23

03 Apr '23

I'm testing TDE 4:14.1.0 from PSB. There's a thread here about a mysterious tdehwdevicetray process which has been appearing in my systray. While investigating this I tried to go into Trinity Control Center / Peripherals / Device Manager. I enter the root password but I don't get a Device Manager. If I put in the wrong password it alerts me if I put in the correct password I don't get a Device Manager. Same happens with Trinity Control Center / System Administration / Monitor and Display. Can anyone replicate this before I file a bug report? Thanks, --Mike

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Unwanted Device Manager in Panel
by Mike Bird 03 Apr '23

03 Apr '23

I'm testing TDE 4:14.1.0 from PSB. At least twice a "Device Manager" has appeared in my "Panel" (part of my Kicker setup along with the "Main Panel" and the "External Taskbar"). This Device Manager features two volumes: one is /boot/efi and another which I suspect is a Windows Recovery partition from when the laptop was first purchased. I REALLY don't want this "Device Manager" appearing and confusing and tempting end users. This "Device Manager" is not listed when I right click to "Remove From Panel" / Applet or Application. How please do I prevent this "Device Manager" from appearing here? Thanks, --Mike

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kmail problem
by Dr. Nikolaus Klepp 01 Apr '23

01 Apr '23

Hi all! I just stumbled onto a problem in kmail that I think is present in 14.1.X but not earlier: When "answering to mailinglist" the sender adress is always the last used address. It does not use the aDress I set in the mail folder settings for that specific folder. Can somebody confirm this? I run kmail 4:14.1.0~s290-0debian12.0.1+11~a Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ...

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OT: CISA and Industrial Control Systems
by J Leslie Turriff 31 Mar '23

31 Mar '23

I remember that someone on the User list works with CNC or some such, and I wonder if he knows that CISA <https://www.cisa.gov> regularly issues advisories about Industrial Control System vulnerabilities? Leslie -- Platform: Linux Distribution: openSUSE Leap 15.4 (x86_64) Desktop Environment: Trinity Qt: 3.5.0 TDE: R14.0.13 tde-config: 1.0

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Keyring madness
by dep 31 Mar '23

31 Mar '23

Greets, folks . . . I'll not mention the three hours I spent yesterday trying to get the Thinkpad wireless working again -- it had been off for a few days -- or the multitude of diagnostics I ran, or how at the end I remembered the little physical switch that turns wifi off and on. It was on, but when I switched it off and then on again the wifi was suddenly fine. So, a reminder: flip off/on switches at least once every 15 years or so. No, won't mention that. But will mention something else that is driving me (further) insane: On the Thinkpad I now have *two* keyring popups, one, presumably gnomish, that wants my user password when I start the network, and the other, genuine TDE, that pops up when I start KMail. It, too, wants my user password but not my mail password. After entering these, all proceeds as hoped. I'd like to make them go away. I have searched the machine for any kind og keyring configuration file for either of these things, and have come up empty. The TDE Wallet Service version says "The application 'kmail' had requested to open the wallet 'kdewallet.' Please enter the password for this wallet below." Anyone know how I can make these things stop? I don't have anything running that I don't have running on the desktop machine, where I do not get the popups. -- dep Pictures: http://www.ipernity.com/doc/depscribe/album Column: https://ofb.biz/author/dep/

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TDE mailing list - email addresses
by William Morder 30 Mar '23

30 Mar '23

This has come up before, and gets discussed, but the problem seems to remain. Is there some way that we can get the mailing list to hide our personal emails from public view? I created an email template just for the TDE mailing list, so that my "reply to" address gives <users(a)trinitydesktop.org> as my email, so this works pretty well. But if I click to reply to somebody else's post, then I find that I often send an email directly to their personal address, and that my personal email address is also exposed. So far as I know, there is not a bad person who participates in this mailing list, and I don't mind if I get sent an email directly from anybody here, whether intentionally or by mistake. I often do the same to others. But it would be nice if we could keep our email addresses from being exposed to public view, and we all know some of the reasons: email harvesters and spammers and phishers and so on. Bill

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Restructuring TDE donations - opinions wanted
by Michele Calgaro 29 Mar '23

29 Mar '23

Hi everyone, so far donations to the TDE project have always ended up to Tim. Although he is the founder of the project, he has not really been involved in the daily matters and development for several years. In the past there has been talks to establish a non-profit TDE organization, but this has yet to happen. With release R14.1.0 coming soon, I would like to propose for donations to be temporarily redirected to Slavek, till the TDE non profit organization is established. Once the organization comes to birth, the amount of donations can be transferred over to it. A transparent public account of donations could be setup, so everyone would be free to see how donations would be used. If Slavek needed to pay additional taxes due to the temporary donation income, I suggest those would be paid out of the donations themselves. What is your opinion? There is about a month before R14.1.0 is released, so it would probably leave just enough time to prepare the new setup. Cheers Michele

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Thunderbird-->KMail
by Darrell Anderson 28 Mar '23

28 Mar '23

Are there any guides or tips and tricks for planning a migration from Thunderbird to KMail? The wiki did not have anything. Thanks.

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Panel lock session applet
by Darrell Anderson 28 Mar '23

28 Mar '23

Is there a panel applet to add only a Lock Session button rather than the combo Lock/Logout applet? Thanks.

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The upcoming TDE R14.1.0 entered the soft-freeze phase
by Slávek Banko 27 Mar '23

27 Mar '23

Hi all, if you are not subscribed to the tde-announcements list, you can find more information in the web archive: https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/announcements@trin… Cheers -- Slávek

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Konqueror List View Quirks
by Darrell Anderson 27 Mar '23

27 Mar '23

Would somebody please confirm the following two behaviors? One === * Configure Konqueror to detailed list or tree view. * Select a file. * Use the keyboard cursor keys to move up and down the list. The selection block follows the cursor keys but not the highlighting. The highlighting seems to follow the cursor keys in icon view. Two === * Create two empty files: 0001 and 0002. * Rename 0002 to 0000. Konqueror does not automatically refresh the list to resort the files. A manual refresh is required. History ======= As far as I can see in my KDE 3 VM, both quirks are inherited from KDE3. Would these issues be easy to fix before 14.1.0? Thanks.

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Panel Background Images
by Darrell Anderson 26 Mar '23

26 Mar '23

Any graphics wizards here? I would like to transform the blue_glass.png and default.png panel background images to blackish. $TDEDIR/share/apps/kicker/wallpapers/blue_glass.png $TDEDIR/share/apps/kicker/wallpapers/default.png I created a new pure black image but retaining the texture shading/tinting of the original images would be nicer. I have no clue how to do that. Would be nice to add the new images to the tdebase package sources before the 14.1.0 release. Possible new file names: blue_glass.png --> black_glass.png default.png --> black_tint.png black.png (the image I created) Thanks!

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Position in a konqueror window
by Thierry de Coulon 26 Mar '23

26 Mar '23

I think this is linked to the new 14.0.1 pre version: I use Konqueror to browse directories in Icon view. From there I click on a directory (e.g. to check for a file), then out of this directory again (sort of graphical cd <location>, cd ..). - Previously , when I went one level up, Konqueror would show the top first directories (even if I just came out of one of the bottom ones). For example if I had just clicked inside directory "Window", when comming out Konqueror would show the directories with names starting with A, B or C. - Now, when I get out of a directory, Konqueror shows icons with names starting with D, E, F or G. I could undestand the former way (I supposed Konqueror simply always came back to the top of the list), but I can't understand the "logic" of the "new" behaviour. As the behaviour changed, that makes me hope it might be possible to control it. Thierry

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