tde-users September 2022

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Re: gvim with GTK3 in OpenSUSE 15.3
by Jim 13 Sep '22

13 Sep '22

Hi Gianluca, On Thu, Sep 8, 2022 at 20:31 (-0700), Gianluca Interlandi wrote: >> are you able to attach the actual dvi file (or one showing that >> problem, alo)? Or, if you want to send it directly to me, that is fine >> too. I am curious as to what the issue is. > I will send it to you separately. Got it, see below. On Thu, Sep 8, 2022 at 20:44 (-0700), Gianluca Interlandi wrote: > I attach here the .tex, .dvi, .pdf files along with the EPS graphics. You > need to have the EPS file in the same firectory as the .dvi file. The .pdf > shows the full page with the figure. When I open the .dvi in an older > OpenSUSE (<=13.2) distribution, then the figure appears. But in OpenSUSE > 15.3 the figure is not there but the text is. It worked fine for me. I am using Slackware64 15.0. However, rather than using Slackware's TeX packages, I just install texlive and get it over with. Are you using texlive, or OpenSUSE's TeX packages? And, in either case, if you copy xdvi from a working system and try it out on your system, does it work? You might consider submitting a bug report to the OpenSUSE people (assuming you are using their package, and not texlive). Jim

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Re: gvim with GTK3 in OpenSUSE 15.3
by Jim 12 Sep '22

12 Sep '22

Hi Gianluca, On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 11:41 (-0700), Gianluca Interlandi wrote: > On Fri, 9 Sep 2022, Jim wrote: >> On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 09:56 (-0700), Gianluca Interlandi wrote: >>> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24941 >> This suggests that ghostscript is your problem. Did you try copying >> that from an old system and putting it somewhere in your $PATH before >> the system ghostscript (on your updated system)? >> If that doesn't help, I guess you are stuck with okular. As I think I >> said, it seems as fast as xdvi on my system. If yours is noticeably >> slower I wonder what strange things are happening on your system. >> (Assuming you aren't using some very old, slow computer.) > No, okular is not slow on my system. I never implied that. Sorry, when you said "I can use okular to display the .dvi document, but I miss how fast xdvi is." I took it to mean that you thought okular was slow. > I just think that xdvi is generally more lightweight than okular, > but okular runs well. So okular is an option if I can't figure out > ghostscript. It is always nice to have a Plan B. > What exactly would I copy of ghostscript from the older system? In a > OpenSUSE 13.2 installation I have for example: > /usr/lib64/ghostscript/9.15/X11.so > Would that be enough? I'd guess not. That library provides gs the ability to output to X11 devices, and (in my tests) it is needed to display .eps images in xdvi, but I speculate you need the ghostscript executable (which is /usr/bin/gs on my system). If you copy that over from your old system to your new system, don't forget it needs to be found before the system one vis-a-vis your $PATH setting. My version of gs has the path name for that directory hard-coded into the executable. (On my system the path name for ghostscript's X11.so library is '/usr/lib64/ghostscript/9.55.0', but on your system that will be something different.) Consequently, if you try copying the gs from your old system to your new one, and they are different versions of gs (which is presumably the case) you will have to create the correctly-named directory on your new system and put the library in that directory. With luck, the old version of gs will play nicely with the (presumably) newer versions of all the libraries on your new system. If it doesn't, you can go deeper down the rabbit hole in a number of ways, but at that point you might want to accept defeat and use okular. (I could suggest some ways to proceed, but I really doubt you will find the spending of the required time productive. Much better to get on with blood clotting research. My vet tells me dog blood clots many times faster than human blood, but I didn't have the presence of mind to ask her if she knew why that is so. Maybe you know.) > I also realized that my subject line should have read "OpenSUSE 15.2", not > 15.3, but that may not be as relevant now. Only, I suppose, if you were submitting a bug report or talking to another OpenSUSE person about this issue. Jim

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Floating mouse after movement
by Stefan Krusche 11 Sep '22

11 Sep '22

Good Day, anybody expierencing weird behavior of the mouse pointer after a recent update on PSB (preliminary stable builds)? Mine keeps "floating" after a short move in one direction, so it is very hard to hit… It's kinda hard to describe. But maybe the mouse I've been using since several years is at last throwing in the towel. Cheers, Stefan

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Re: gvim with GTK3 in OpenSUSE 15.3
by Jim 09 Sep '22

09 Sep '22

Hi Gianluca, On Wed, Sep 7, 2022 at 15:15 (-0700), Gianluca Interlandi wrote: > Thanks Jim for the tip on "flyspell mode". Glad to help out. > What about paragraph justification? I remember it was Ctrl-J? There is an emacs command "fill-paragraph", which is in the "fill" package. I have it bound to Alt-Q (which I think is the default binding, not Ctrl-J) but you can easily re-bind it to any key sequence you like. (Or, if for some reason you want to do it, you can bind any command to as many key sequences as you like.) > Can you set a specific line length, like in gvim I had set 93 > characters per line? The above paragraph was wrapped automagically according to my setting of "fill-column", which I have set to 70 for email messages. If you want paragraphs justified, you can give an argument to fill-paragraph. For example, if I copy the above paragraph and type Ctrl-U Alt-Q, I get There is an emacs command "fill-paragraph", which is in the "fill" package. I have it bound to Alt-Q (which I think is the default binding, not Ctrl-J) but you can easily re-bind it to any key sequence you like. (Or, if for some reason you want to do it, you can bind any command to as many key sequences as you like.) Whether you like those results better than ragged-right is up to you, of course. Cheers. Jim

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gvim with GTK3 in OpenSUSE 15.3
by Gianluca Interlandi 08 Sep '22

08 Sep '22

Hi TDE users list! This may be a bit off-topic to TDE but still related to new libraries. I noticed that in OpenSUSE 15.3 gvim is compiled against GTK3. Interestingly, this makes it very slow. At first, when I'm editing a document it works fine, but then after a while it gets so slow that I need to close it and restart it. Has anybody else had the same issue and knows a workaround? An alternative is to install an older version of gvim that was compiled against GTK2 from an older OpenSUSE distribution. Has anybody tried anything similar? It is hard to find an alternative text editor that has instant spell check. Any ideas? I use it mostly for LaTeX. Thanks! Gianluca ----------------------------------------------------- Gianluca Interlandi, PhD gianluca(a)u.washington.edu +1 (206) 685 4435 http://gianluca.today/ Department of Bioengineering University of Washington, Seattle WA U.S.A. -----------------------------------------------------

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Most stable platform to run Trinity on?
by J Leslie Turriff 07 Sep '22

07 Sep '22

It looks like OpenSuSE has decided to deprecate Leap, their long-term stable release, possibly in favour of Tumbleweed, their rolling release (they're being very coy about what will replace Leap). Trinity runs on numerous other Linuxes; which would be best for someone like me who values stability over gee-whiz features and eye-candy? Leslie -- Operating System: Linux Distribution: openSUSE Leap 15.4 x86_64 Desktop Environment: Trinity Qt: 3.5.0 TDE: R14.0.12 tde-config: 1.0

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Poll for (cheap) TDE Mirror capabilities
by Michael 04 Sep '22

04 Sep '22

Hi All, Four quick questions to see if Slávek, Mike, myself, et al. should pursue creating an easy (NAT VPS / home TDE mirror) setup. https://take.quiz-maker.com/QJUQPIFKX Even if you don’t think you’ll be able to help out with this, please do take the poll as the info will be useful for future TDE decisions. Best All, Michael

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Day of Week format for the Clock applet
by J Leslie Turriff 04 Sep '22

04 Sep '22

Is there a way to make the Clock applet display the day of the week in short (Wed) rather than long (Wednesday) format? In Control Center => Regional & Accessibility => Country/Region & Language => Time & Dates tab one can set the short day of the week in the date format fields, but not separately. (See attached) Leslie -- Operating System: Linux Distribution: openSUSE Leap 15.4 x86_64 Desktop Environment: Trinity Qt: 3.5.0 TDE: R14.0.12 tde-config: 1.0

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TDE Mirrors for Everyone?
by Michael 03 Sep '22

03 Sep '22

Hi All, As most of you know, I donate a mirror to TDE. It costs ~USD100 / year [1]. Mine has ~18 months left, but it’s hard drive isn’t really big enough for what Slávek wants/needs long term. (It’s also completely overkill in terms of memory/cpu.) I recently saw an article about NAT VPSes [2] whose prices are under $10 / year [3]. These, with some tinkering, can be setup to tunnel traffic to a home box (which could be running a VM to act as a TDE mirror). VM’s can be ‘packaged’ such that they are one click imports (at least on Oracle VirtualBox). That would allow Slávek to be able to create it once and then any one of us could install it locally. My graphics skills suckage, but something like: mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org > NAT VPS > Your public IP (from ISP) > [Your router/NAT/'ISP thingy'] > Your home server > VM (on your home server) I’ve used SSH tunnels for 20+ years, but we’d probably need Slávek or someone with more knowledge of traffic tunneling than me, to help with the full setup (as I think iptables is probably a better solution?). # # # Okay, why? 1) I think several of us have existing home hardware that has a spare ~2TB, can run a 1CPU/2GB RAM VM, and runs 24/7 already. 2) At ~$5 per year it’d be a very cheap way for TDE to have multiple mirrors that have the full space available Slávek wants. Thoughts? And a show of hands of people who’d provide a TDE mirror under something like this? Best All, Michael [1] Current offers are roughly 90/yr for VPSes w/ 48GB RAM, 720GB NVMe, 12 vCPU, 24TB transfer (triennial billing). https://www.ssdnodes.com/sale/aug-2022-offers/ [2] https://lowendbox.com/blog/what-the-heck-is-a-nat-vps-anyway/ [3] One offer: $4/year https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/180327/clearance-sale-nat-vps-at-cost-new…

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Whonix on Devuan [offtopic]
by Michael 03 Sep '22

03 Sep '22

On Friday 02 September 2022 05:40:24 pm William Morder via tde-users wrote: > I keep wanting to run Whonix, but I first I need > to find a better place to live. So then, back to Devuan, which is simple > and just works. Whonix should run on Devuan. Install Oracle VirtualBox [1], then install Whonix[2]. You will need roughly 4GB free RAM to dedicate to it when it's running. That’ll get you up and running in less than an hour. Best, Michael PS: 1) Change all four of the Whonix users’ passwords! 2) Change the background of the Gateway to red.... [1] This installs VB on Debian, should be the same (or very similar) package names. <install_package_names> virtualbox virtualbox-ext-pack virtualbox-guest-additions-iso <postinstall> << as root or use sudo gpasswd -M $(getent group users | cut -d: -f4) vboxusers [2] Download and (basically) a one click install. https://www.whonix.org/wiki/VirtualBox

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