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On Saturday 05 September 2020 19.28:32 Michael via tde-users wrote:
> Did you reply to confirm for the new list? These were the instructions I
> got.
Yes, I did. Found the messages from the new mailing list: Mr Spamfilter had
them :)
It may take some time to teach him however, he s a quite stuborn and stupid
fellow...
> On Tuesday 01 September 2020 14:26:16 ajh-valmer wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have aslo a Gmail account
> >
> > My Gmail account password works on the webmail site,
> >
> > But not with Kmail (TDE) (password not recognised).
> >
> > Everything is allright : mail, pop.gmail.com, port (995), password...
> >
> > Why ?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Andr=C3=A9 Valmer
> >
>
> I receive gmail using pop.gmail.com, port 995, etc. I do not send through=20
> gmail, although I have it configured for smtp port 587. I usually send=20
> through my zoho.com account, as I have found that they are a lot less hassl=
> e=20
> than messing round with Google crap. However, we cannot escape Google=20
> entirely, and I still use it to receive certain emails, mostly for business=
> =2E=20
>
> Did you try "check what the server supports" in the configuration settings?=
> I=20
> notice that Gmail doesn't like Kmail using encryption. SSL (no TLS), but=20
> clear text for authentication?!?!=20
>
> That bothers me, although at least I can use Gmail to receive, which is bet=
> ter=20
> than not being able to use it at all.=20
>
> Bill
>
>
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I've had no problems using imap and pop3 gmail with kmail.
I just figured out their nonesense.
Here are my settings, hopefully it will help
Incoming:
Host = pop.gmai.com
Port = 995
Encryption = SSL
Auth Meth = clear text
Outgoing:
Host = smtp.gmail.com
Port = 465
Fill in Server requires authentication
Encryption = SSL
Auth Meth = plain
Kate
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Ok so, see subject.
I'm guessing there might be a hotkey control but I haven't been able to find
anything on the web about it. Just the one to shut off the touchpad.
Maybe someone else might have better luck searching for a clue.
It was working, and very well I might add but it stopped.
I did reboot so I'm going to check the startups see if anything of interest
shows up there.
Kate
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tl:dr
MX works extremely well, is able to ‘one click’ install TDE, and saves me an
incredible amount of time. [1]
William Morder asked:
>
> By the way, Michael, I believe that AntiX is based on MX Linux. I forget
> the exact relationship, but that's how I discovered the MX repositories.
>
> Since you are so enthusiastic about MX Linux with TDE, I wondered if you
> knew anything about AntiX, or were more up-to-date on its status, or had an
> opinion about it
Long story very short… (and probably not entirely accurate)
antiX [2] and MEPIS basically combined? to create MX. I don’t know if MEPIS
is still around, obviously antiX is ;)
- antiX is a very lightweight distribution (works well on very old hardware)
- MX is a middleweight (it also has an advanced hardware kernel option)
- - {Kate? Maybe try the MX ahs kernel for that touchscreen?}
Dolphin Oracle is the lead dev for both distributions. There are ~20+ devs
for MX (they all may be active on antiX, but I don’t know that), and based on
their forum activity I’m somewhat guessing that many of the MX devs are
basically ‘full time’ employed by MX. Truthfully I’d love for TDE to be
rolled into the MX group, it seems like such a win-win for both
organizations.
Why am I such an enthusiastic about MX?
- With one click (MX Package Installer):
- - Full LAMP stack is installed
- - Install LibreOffice, Opera, Wine, VirtualBox, 6 other DEs, 2 Windows
Managers, 2 Docks, Skype, Zoom, Kodi, Plex, Handbrake, Spotify, Play on
Linux, Steam, 6 other Kernels, 5+ VPNs, 3 Screencasts, … [5]
- NVIDIA proprietary drivers works ‘out of the box’
- MX also saved me 50 to 200 hours of customization rebuild over six months by
having a ‘preserve /home’ option that works with existing disk encryption.
[3]
- Their MX Package Installer is completely customizable
- - Which allowed me to create an auto-installer for TDE [4]
- The MX Tools set is stellar and actually works...
- Doesn’t use systemd
- The MX forum answers your questions (accurately! and usually the same day)
I’ll stop here, put the pom-poms down, and close with:
If you want a distribution that runs TDE to ‘just work,’ go with MX.
Best,
Michael
[1] https://mxlinux.org/
[2] https://antixlinux.com/
[3] https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewtopic.php?f=92&t=59308&p=587358#p588697
[4]
https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/MX_Linux_Trinity_Repository_Installation_In…
[5] There are 380 *.pm files in their packageinstaller-pkglist directory, best
guess is that translates to 380 unique applications that they have already
customized the install process of so the end user gets a full ‘working’
application.
My brother, a long-time windoze user, suggested to me last night that he
might give Linux a try. Looking at the Trinity website, I see a plethora of
Live Disk images for various distros available; but which one is most likely
to give him a stable and versatile experience? He is already somewhat
skeptical, having seen my occasional struggles with multimedia issues on my
OpenSuSE machine*. (This opportunity will also give me some exposure to
Debian-based distros, a probable plus.)
Leslie
* (OpenSuSE does not seem to think that multimedia is important, and its
support is somewhat sketchy compared with home-computer oriented distros).
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Ok so...
I was hitting me little Alistair Izzard voodoo doll with a 4.5k, deadblow,
sledgehammer, as one does. Suddenly the touchscreen on the flex 4 started
working.
Voodoo and a sturdy DB sledgehammer always seems to do the trick.
I'm going to make a orangeman doll now.
;)
Thanks Ali, I think it was some of the recent updates to wacom stuff that did
it. Well, let's say it was (I know it was the doll and hammer).
Kate
The Great and Terrible.
PS, though it was "native" to win10 the touchscreen never worked with it. I
was able to get it to work with several linux distros but they seemed to have
update or beta wacom stuff.
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> On Friday 04 September 2020 01:35:47 pm BorgLabs - Kate Draven via tde-users
> wrote:
> > On Friday 04 September 2020, Michael wrote:
> > > On Friday 04 September 2020 06:23:55 am BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote:
> > > > Ok so, see subject.
> >
> > Aye tried it all.
> >
> > It worked just the one time and never again. I don't get it.
>
> Hey Kate,
>
> Does it have a USB port? If so, give the MX Live USB a try?
>
> I think there is a way to, with persistance, change the MX USB to their ahs
> (advanced hardware support) kernel, but you'd need to dig that up.
>
> # # #
>
> It's those MIB, they came and tweaked it just to baffle you ?! :)
>
> Best,
> Michael
>
> _______________________________________________
It's fine without the touchscreen. Everything else works and works great.
BUTT I'll give the live usbs a try see if I can spot anything.
Thanks,
Kate
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> While I have Internet, of a sort, I still have a few glitches; for example,
I
> cannot go offline, then go online again. Somehow, wicd either auto-connects
> to my wifi network; when instead, I want to enable wifi, then look at the
> available network choices, because my local network has several nodes or
> access points within the building where I live, and somehow it doesn't
always
> choose the strongest or closest signal. I have an access point right outside
> my door, yet autoconnect seems to avoid it.
Reply: if you are using some kind of communal wifi. Don't allow auto connect.
Bad human. Instead always choose it manually. Go go prefs and untick any auto
connect options. Be safe.
> But when I try to disconnect, sometimes wicd seems to hang on, and show me
> still connected, yet I can't download emails or go online for other stuff.
> When I run macchanger, it keeps showing me that my mac address changes; and
I
> run knetstats-trinity (which is a nice simple gui tool) and it shows my
> wireless is connected then disconnected, shows activity then no activity;
yet
> in reality, I can't go online. So my only recourse at this point is to
> reboot.
When that happens. Restart wicd and wicd-tray. However, before that, do this.
"service network restart" from a root terminal. See if that helps.
> When I tried to get tdenetworkmanager to run, I had those problems already
> discussed earlier. I managed to download the packages and dependencies to
> install network-manager-tde without systemd, so it all *seems* like it ought
> to work out right, but I always end up going back to wicd; which, again, is
> only sort of half-working at the moment, and I must keep rebooting.
>
> How would I go about pruning away the wicd stuff that I don't want, and
> keeping only the tdenetworkmanager and required dependencies, etc.? I've
> search apt-get, but I believe that I already have all the dependencies and
> recommends. I can't think what else I might have missed.
>
You don't need to remove wicd for the moment, just disable it.
/etc/xdg/autostart is likely where you will find it.
or use whatever startup control tool you have to do the same.
tdenetworkmanager never seemed to work for me unless I ran it as root. Same
with net-applet.
Kate
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