- tde-users - Trinity Desktop Environment

Re: [trinity-users] r14-xdg-update follies
by Dave Lers 04 Mar '17

04 Mar '17

Leslie Turriff wrote: >> Check applications-tdemenuedit.menu for '<Filename>kde-' in >> /var/tmp/tdecache-leslie/r14-xdg-update-validation-test9.txt. > I have attached the above file for review. What directory > would these files reside in? Apparently in ~/.config/menus/applications-tdemenuedit.menu If that is where those files are, running $ ls -lh ~/.config/menus/applications-tdemenuedit.menu/ will let you know if there is a permissions issue. They should be owned by you and have 644 permissions.

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Re: [trinity-users] r14-xdg-update follies
by Leslie Turriff 04 Mar '17

04 Mar '17

On Friday 03 March 2017 00:52:19 Leslie Turriff wrote: > Recently, when logging into my main ID on my new desktop system, I get > several messages about something called r14-xdg-update. The text of the > first one is > > > The r14-xdg-update script has been run at least once. > > The script is not successfully updating. > > The script will run with each login until corrected. > > Please contact an administrator or take appropriate administrative action > > to correct the problem. The error code is 9. > > Searching the list archive, I found a few references to this script, but > little useful information about it aside from the information that error > code 9 has something to do with file privileges. There seems to be nothing > in the documentation about this script, which seems to perform some sort of > updates to the Trinity configuration. From the effects that it has had on > my system, I would say that there needs to be something written up and > placed into the user doecumentation about this. So far it has wiped out my > desktop settings and recently it made all of my kmail (configuration, > folders and contents) disappear. What do I need to do to fix this? I'm > afraid to log into any of my secondary IDs for fear that they will be > corrupted as well. The vague description of error code 9 gives me little > to go on. What file privileges need to be set, for what files or > directories? What exactly is r14-xdg-update trying to do? > > Leslie I'm also getting this message at login: > Some Trinity R14 XDG compliance updates failed. > Check applications-tdemenuedit.menu for '<Filename>kde-' in /var/tmp/tdecache-leslie/r14-xdg-update-validation-test9.txt. I have attached the above file for review. What directory would these files reside in? Leslie

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Porting individual trinity programs to Android
by Philip Ashmore 21 Feb '17

21 Feb '17

Hi there. I've got a really great Amarok playlist of songs that I find help me concentrate. I've looked for a means of playing such a playlist on Android without success. If anyone has succeeded in porting a TDE program to Android it would maybe bring this dream a little closer. Please tell me I'm not the only one with such a dream :) Regards, Philip Ashmore

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OAuth in KMail?
by dep 21 Feb '17

21 Feb '17

greetings, everybody . . . this morning i received a fairly alarming note from my ISP, who apparently farms out its mail handling to yahoo (and yahoo seems to have belatedly gotten interested in security). the note specified that i am not using a sufficiently secure mail client (KMail in TDE) and that in a few weeks OAuth will be required. an admittedly brief search has not produced information as to whether this is something that can be enabled in KMail in TDE or, if so, how to enable it. is this something that has come up before? if so, how was it resolved? and if it hasn't, any solutions? thanks very much. -- dep The shortest distance between you and playing great acoustic guitar: the great new instructional DVDs from Marjorie Thompson, available at www.MarjorieThompson.com

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Trinity SSL Certificate Status
by Timothy Pearson 17 Feb '17

17 Feb '17

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA224 I just wanted to let you know that the new TDE site SSL certificates have been installed. They are valid until 2020 so we should be good to go for quite some time. QuickBuild is handled somewhat outside of the TDE project itself, but should also be updated in the next month or so. Thank you all again for helping resolve this issue so quickly! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iFYEARELAAYFAliniqMACgkQLaxZSoRZrGHZzwDeMOYKZ/iiC6ZaMaIVXwsXOo0L pprznl0vuy/M4QDgtInLknauKmFtWc3Gmg8/0SQryDP5f/X/75cYOw== =yNSu -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [trinity-users] Trinity SSL Certificates
by Dave Lers 17 Feb '17

17 Feb '17

Timothy Pearson wrote: > LetsEncrypt does not appear to be secure enough as it > effectively requires automated certificate installation on the > master servers, and furthermore I expect it to be removed from > as a fully trusted root CA or at least demoted in some way in the > future [3]. I'd suggest a little more research while paying attention to the originating source material (CA's who are losing money). At least one of the FUD sources in your link has been responded to: https://unmitigatedrisk.com/?p=552.

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Re: [trinity-devel] Trinity SSL Certificates
by Timothy Pearson 17 Feb '17

17 Feb '17

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA224 > Consider it done. > > Calvin And with that we're good to go! I'll order the replacement certificates shortly, which should reactivate TDE under all major browsers. Thank you all very much for stepping up and helping fix this, I greatly appreciate it! Tim -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iFYEARELAAYFAlimXdwACgkQLaxZSoRZrGEgFQDgp6Kl+GwPIXNiCdDbjTtm0o+l wiT/uPSOWQWX0ADaAjn85+nk3UsGkbp7guXH/3pUc7Ij8kwbMiGeGA== =/HH8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Trinity SSL Certificates
by Timothy Pearson 16 Feb '17

16 Feb '17

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA224 As some of you may already be aware, StartCom (a major provider of SSL certificates) has repeatedly and intentionally violated the basic rules to be listed as a root CA in most browsers [1] [2]. Unfortunately, TDE used StartCom as its root CA provider in an attempt to lower overall costs; as a result, the main TDE pages, QuickBuild, and other related services will no longer be accessible to the majority of Web clients. We do not have the funds to replace the certificate with a costlier option at this time. LetsEncrypt does not appear to be secure enough as it effectively requires automated certificate installation on the master servers, and furthermore I expect it to be removed from as a fully trusted root CA or at least demoted in some way in the future [3]. Due to the industry-standard security in use, we cannot simply disable HTTPS without disabling access to all TDE sites previously using HTTPS. Furthermore, disabling HTTPS would open TDE users adn visitors to malicious MITM attack, and I am not willing to do this. Our only options come down to either accepting the heavy loss in visitors / traffic that will come from using a self-signed certificate, or attempting to raise the funds required to purchase a new certificate. It should only cost around $200 to obtain a new multi-year certificate covering TDE, so if you can please contribute something toward this goal via our donations page [4]. Again, I apologize for the inconvenience; it is not common for a CA to be delisted and the impact from this has been felt across many sites. Unfortunately, it will only continue to worsen as Chrome (with its 75% market share) is updated by end users over the next few days / weeks. Thank you! [1] https://security.googleblog.com/2016/10/distrusting-wosign-and-startcom.html [2] https://blog.mozilla.org/security/2016/10/24/distrusting-new-wosign-and-sta… [3] http://www.datamation.com/security/lets-encrypt-the-good-and-the-bad.html [4] https://trinitydesktop.org/donate.php -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iFYEARELAAYFAlimAWgACgkQLaxZSoRZrGEmvgDgiRW0d0/yTuzseNQm7of0gzMz WPJSiyQPYpvBKQDgpU4QtQdAQ9ZIhjUBbzNTY/DgBBRmd53/P6QZsQ== =U7kv -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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TDE NetworkManager frontend not working. Got "unable to perform requested operation". ConsoleKit (rly needed?) and PolicyKit are installed.
by Richard Lamboj 15 Feb '17

15 Feb '17

Hello, i can not use the tde network-manager frontend. A Message-Box pops up and says: Unable to save network connection! Potential causes: * Insufficient permissions * NetworkManager not running * DBUS failure Beside that i think the Assistent should not be closed. Both - ConsoleKit and PolicyKit - are installed. And i'm using OpenRC, not systemd on Debian Jessie, with backports enabled. Kind Regards, Richard

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r14-xdg-update
by Leslie Turriff 11 Feb '17

11 Feb '17

Last week when I started my newest machine (x86_64 intel, OpenSuSE Leap 42.2), when logging in I got a notification box that said, The r14-xdg-update script has been run at least once. The script is not successfully updating. The script will run with each login until corrected. Please contact an administrator or take appropriate administrative action to correct the problem. The error code is 9. When I continued on, all of my Trinity desktop settings were gone. Rebooting does not help, nor did reinstalling the OS and Trinity. I have no idea what "appropriate administrative action" might be, nor what error code 9 means. Help! Leslie

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multiple monitors
by Gene Kodadek 10 Feb '17

10 Feb '17

Can somebody give me a guide to getting a multi-monitor setup working using the native tools? I'm on Debian Jessie if that makes a difference. I had it working on a PCLInux OS install but can't remember how I did it.

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digikam dependency conflict in openSSUE 13.2
by Istvan Gabor 09 Feb '17

09 Feb '17

YaST reports dependency conflict: #### YaST2 conflicts list - generated 2017-02-09 21:06:35 #### nothing provides trinity-digikam = 0.9.6-14.0.4_1.oss132 needed by trinity-digikam-i18n-2:0.9.6-14.0.4_1.oss132.x86_64 [ ] deinstallation of trinity-digikam-i18n-2:0.9.6-14.0.4_1.oss132.x86_64 [ ] break trinity-digikam-i18n-2:0.9.6-14.0.4_1.oss132.x86_64 by ignoring some of its dependencies #### YaST2 conflicts list END ### Though I have both above packages installed: > rpm -qa|grep digikam trinity-digikam-i18n-0.9.6-14.0.4_1.oss132.x86_64 trinity-digikam-0.9.6-14.0.4_1.oss132.x86_64 I have deleted and reinstalled the packages but always get the error. Istvan

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digikam crash
by Istvan Gabor 09 Feb '17

09 Feb '17

Hello: Digikam crashes when in image editor I right click the images or try to select area. This occurs in openSUSE 13.2 Trinty TDE R14.0.4 64 bit. Digikam is trinity-digikam-0.9.6-14.0.4_1.oss132.x86_64. It does not occur with all images, only if the resolutions or file size is over a limit, though I don't know the limit. It occurs with jpg file 3264x2448 resolution ~1.8 MB, but it doesn't occur if I downsize this image to 1500x1125 ~500 KB. Does anyone have this problem? Could it be fixed? Thanks, Istvan

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Re: [trinity-users] Re: Application resolution vs desktop resolution
by Thierry de Coulon 08 Feb '17

08 Feb '17

On Wednesday 08 February 2017 21.56:32 deloptes wrote: > Thierry de Coulon wrote: > > My problem is this: while I have the screen resolution setup to 1920x1080 > > (and trinity desktop looks OK for this resolution), the monitor (which is > > accessed from HDMI through an HDMI to VGA converter because I use a KVM > > that needs VGA connectors) was initially "seen" as 1024x768. > > It is interesting to know what is the output of xrandr > > I have/had similar issues with my notebook(s) and external monitor. > Natively eDP1 supports 1366x768, while monitor does 1920x1080. > > So switching on and of the one and the other messed up from time to time > the modesettings and I end up with unusable resolution. The external would > refuse to accept 1920x1080. It improved recently with later 4.9 kernel and > I did not test extensively. > One option was to configure monitors in xorg.conf with their mod lines. I > did this on the older notebook > I however use now xrandr --scale as X tends to pick up the lowest common > and it can not support different resolutions or whatever. So I put the > bigger one to 1920x1080 and scale eDP1., which gives acceptable output. > > I have read of similar issues with KVM. > > regards > That's what I get: Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1920 x 1080, maximum 8192 x 8192 DP1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) HDMI1 connected 1920x1080+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 256mm x 192mm 1024x768 60.00 + 1920x1080 60.00* 59.94 1280x1024 85.02 60.02 1440x900 74.98 59.90 1280x960 60.00 1360x768 60.02 1280x800 59.91 1280x720 119.99 60.00 59.94 720x480 60.00 59.94 To me it seems the chipset by itself can do a lot of resolutions. I am new to HDMI (I actually don't use it anwhere as I have no monitor with such a connector). So I can't test what would happen if I had a direct connection to the monitor. I could imagine that the chain HDMI - HDMI to VGA (cheap chinese thing, by the way) - KVM switch - monitor is too much for a system that desperately tries to identify the monitor by itself. In the old time I would have been asked what my screen was... Thierry

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Re: [trinity-users] Application resolution vs desktop resolution
by Thierry de Coulon 08 Feb '17

08 Feb '17

On Wednesday 08 February 2017 12.43:43 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > This will most likely not solve your problem for GTK3 applications, but you > can try to fix the screens DPI: > > kcontrol / Apperreance / Fonts : Force DPI ... 96 DPI > > For GNOME/GTK please look here: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/HiDPI > > > Nik Thanks Nik, it did solve the problem, at least for the apps I use on that machine (kmail, Vivaldi, Yast). I had never noticed (nor needed) that setting, now I know where to look. Thierry

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Application resolution vs desktop resolution
by Thierry de Coulon 08 Feb '17

08 Feb '17

Actually I don't think this is a Trinity problem, because reverting to lightdm shows no change, but I post this in hope someone can give me a clue: I have setup a machine based on an Intel based SBC (UP board with a "cherry trail" processor. It runs openSUSE Leap and Trinity. I initially had lots of screen corruption but this I solved by setting the graphics to "xua". My problem is this: while I have the screen resolution setup to 1920x1080 (and trinity desktop looks OK for this resolution), the monitor (which is accessed from HDMI through an HDMI to VGA converter because I use a KVM that needs VGA connectors) was initially "seen" as 1024x768. And the applications seem to retain that resolution. I could make things better in kmail (which is the main application for this machine) by reducing the font size. The other applications still look "too big". So I get the feeling that the lower resolution was saved somewhere... Is there a place where I can tell them to use 1920x768? Have good day, Thierry

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kooldock
by Gene Kodadek 07 Feb '17

07 Feb '17

I just installed Trinity to my Debian Stable machine. Looks good, but I can't figure out how to enable the kooldock. Also, none of the old KDE 3.x wallpapers are available from the desktop settings menu; is that an extra package I need to install? Thanks!

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To launch kmix at graphic tde boot session
by andre_debian＠numericable.fr 06 Feb '17

06 Feb '17

Hello, How to have the kmix icon right down in the taskbar, at the graphic tde boot session ? Since some days, this icon of kmix is not present, and I have to lauch it in a terminal by the command : "kmix &" Thanks for your answers. André

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tdenetworkmanager configure WEP network
by deloptes 03 Feb '17

03 Feb '17

Hi, I was wondering what I would do to configure a wireless network with WEP password. I go to Edit Connections -> select the connection to configure -> Edit Connectio -> Next -> Use Wireless Security -> WEP There I see Authentication: Open System, Type ..., Key ... What is the magic combination for making WEP password to work thanks

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Problems with tdm-trinity
by Rolf Schmidt 03 Feb '17

03 Feb '17

Hi, I will setup a Lenovo T410i laptop which has a nvidia grafic card. The laptop should use additioaly second monitor when in the docking station and of course expand the gui across both screens. The (original) driver can't handle this - allways assumes both motiors are connected. So I installed the nouvea driver and get trouble with tdm. Tdm starts and I see the clock for a short time and then tdm terminates and a text only terminal login is shown. When login and call "startx", I get a working trinity session and the crash report manager is shown. So my question is "where can I look for error messages of tdm" or has some one else an idea or a solution for the problem? Many thanks in advance Rolf

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Bleah: systemctl enable tdm.service -f / Failed to execute operation: Access denied
by Peter Laws 03 Feb '17

03 Feb '17

Fresh CentOS 7, patched, added repos for EPEL, NUX, whatever else was listed. Accidentally installed "trinity-tdebase" first. Pulled all those packaged and then installed "trinity-desktop-all". "systemctl disable gdm.service" worked and kdm/xdm failed (likely because I don't have those installed) but this fails: systemctl enable tdm.service Failed to execute operation: Access denied Adding -f to the end doesn't seem to make a difference. Moderate googling is not helping! I've rebooted several times with no apparent effect. Since it behaves identically when I try tdm.service as it does when I try xdm or kdm, is it possible that I'm missing a step somewhere? This system was Ubuntu+TDE and while I've been fiddling with RHEL/CentOS for ages, CentOS and it's systemctl are still new to me. Never was a Fedora person. -- Peter Laws, BS, MRCP / N5UWY National Weather Center / Network Operations Center University of Oklahoma Information Technology plaws(a)ou.edu

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Locked user session
by Baron 03 Feb '17

03 Feb '17

Hi Guys, PCLOS Trinity 14.0X For the past few days I have been getting a "Session locked by user" message with only user can unlock this session. I can enter my password and get in with everything working OK. If I reboot, hard reset, I don't get this message again when I login. I may not see this again for two or three days, and then its back. I don't normally leave the computer switched on so I might restart the computer twice a day. Anybody any clue as to why this has started to occur. Thanks in advance for any help. -- Best Regards: Baron

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TDEInit problem in Wheezy and TDE 14.0.4
by Ken Heard 02 Feb '17

02 Feb '17

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Now that Firefox is directly available from a Wheezy repository I recently decided to replace Iceweasel with Firefox-esr. Once I had the latter up and running I deleted the former. When I next tried to open an html file from Dolphin I received the TDEInit failure message: "TDEInit could not launch 'Iceweasel'. Could not find 'Iceweasel' executable." I did an online search for information about TDEInit and found that others had problems with it, and the problems had to do with something called 'binutils' I think. My knowledge of information technology is unfortunately insufficient to allow me to understand the information I found. Could someone please tell me what I need to do to replace 'Iceweasel' with Firefox-esr so I can open html files in 'Firefox-esr" from Dolphin. Regards, Ken Heard -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAliQl5QACgkQlNlJzOkJmTdkTwCfaeq5Zhz8HhEuwQHXmH0kYepG Q6YAnjNQ0sV6XZcE52V/yb1njZzf/p8T =DYBO -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [trinity-users] kmail can't send mail to my mail provider's SMTP server
by Leslie Turriff 25 Jan '17

25 Jan '17

> On Tuesday 24 January 2017 14:02:45 Baron wrote: > > The correct combinations should be: > > > > port 25 + TLS > > port 465 + SSL > > port 587 + TLS > > > > Cheers > > Might also need to set authentication to "Login" Nope; doesn't work with any combination of suggested ports, protocols or authentication methods. I still get the "Unrecognized transport protocol. Unable to send message." message. Judging by the quickness of the message's appearance, I suspect that kmail is not getting to the point of attempting to connect to the server. It almost seems like there is some prerequisite package or service missing, but all of kmail's required libraries and packages are installed. I've attached the list of installed services that are NOT running in hopes that someone will spot something helpful. Leslie -- Best Regards: Baron -- A Caution to Everybody Consider the Auk; Becoming extinct because he forgot how to fly, and could only walk. Consider man, who may well become extinct Because he forgot how to walk and learned how to fly before he thinked. -- Ogden Nash

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kmail can't send mail to my mail provider's SMTP server
by Leslie Turriff 24 Jan '17

24 Jan '17

Since migrating from my dying laptop to my new desktop machine, kmail refuses to send mail to my mail provider's servers, forcing me to use their webmail interface (yuk). I have tinkered with the kmail configuration to no avail, and I've even tried copying the old kmailrc file over the new; but nothing works. Currently, when I attempt to upload mail, I see this message in the status area: "Unrecognized transport protocol. Unable to send message." During my struggles, I also saw, in a separate window, the attached security failure message. I have also attached snapshots of my SMTP configuration, and this link points to setup instructions for my mail provider's SMTP server: http://email.about.com/od/Accessing-Mail-com/f/Mail-com-SMTP-Server-Setting… Neither of these messages gives me enough detail about the problem to know how to proceed. I suspect something is corrupted in the kmail config, but deleting and replacing the Sending entry hasn't helped, nor has replacing the entire file with the working one from the old machine. mail.com has suggested that I change from using pop3 to imap (like that would help), and > Please be advised to correct your server setting by using the information below: > > For IMAP Server: > > Incoming: > [snip] > Outgoing: > Server: smtp.mail.com > Port: 587 > Encryption: STARTTLS > > If "STARTTLS" is not available, please use the protocol "TLS". If this option is also not available simply activate "Encryption". which has not helped. Using kmail's "Check what the server supports" sets TLS and PLAIN. I'm guessing that TLS = STARTTLS, and SSH = Encryption. The config on my old system has SSH and PLAIN set. Neither of these works on my new system. Any suggestions are welcome. Leslie -- A Caution to Everybody Consider the Auk; Becoming extinct because he forgot how to fly, and could only walk. Consider man, who may well become extinct Because he forgot how to walk and learned how to fly before he thinked. -- Ogden Nash

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Re: [trinity-users] Trinity can't see gtk-qt-engine
by Leslie Turriff 24 Jan '17

24 Jan '17

On Thursday 19 January 2017 01:41:57 you wrote: > Leslie Turriff composed on 2017-01-19 04:24 (UTC+0100): > ... > If you'd like me to look at your diff it needs to be redone after first > sorting your zypper output. > > Barring that I don't have any suggestions other than a reinstallation more > like I do mine. Trying to find and fix the breakage is likely to be more > trouble than starting over, unless a re-diff produces a needed clue. > > 1-Minimal X install rather than true minimal and then adding X as you did. > 2-Before adding X, set solver.onlyRequires = true in /etc/zypp.conf. > 3-Trinity installation will add most of Xorg automatically. I don't > remember which bits it will skip, but they aren't too hard to figure out. > Something akin to the attachment should get most of the Trinity basics and > TDM installed using zypper. Felix, Thanks for your help with this. I followed your suggestions for reinstalling, and (after a struggle to get Network-Manager working) it's working better. Leslie -- A Caution to Everybody Consider the Auk; Becoming extinct because he forgot how to fly, and could only walk. Consider man, who may well become extinct Because he forgot how to walk and learned how to fly before he thinked. -- Ogden Nash

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Re: [trinity-users] Trinity can't see gtk-qt-engine
by Leslie Turriff 19 Jan '17

19 Jan '17

On Sunday 15 January 2017 21:32:03 Felix Miata wrote: > Neither you nor I have qtcurve-gtk2 installed, so I don't see how it could > be any issue. I didn't think so. > > On my host gx745 42.2/TDE installation I get the same output as yours. In > your TDE Control Center I see the fonts are some sort of serif selection, > which is not a default I've ever run across. Did you do that purposely > yourself, maybe via a theme selection? Maybe there is a theme compatibility > problem? That is my choice of font; I find it easier to read than a sans-serif font. > > How did you get where you are? Is this a fresh 42.2 installation? Upgrade > from 42.1 or older? What kind of installation? Minimal X? KDE? XFCE? LXQT? > Other? Is or was any of KDE3 installed? All of KDE3 must be eradicated for > TDE to properly function. It is a new installation of OpenSuSE Leap 42.2 on a bare system. I first installed a minimal image, then installed X, then Trinity. I did it that way because I had considerable trouble on my old Leap 42.1 system getting rid of all of the KDE4 and KDE Plasma5 junk that always triy to take over my window-manager and display-manager. > > Maybe there is some other needed QT package missing. Here is a list of QT > packages I have working as expected on gx745: Attached is a comparison of my system (on the left) and your list (on the right): Leslie -- A Caution to Everybody Consider the Auk; Becoming extinct because he forgot how to fly, and could only walk. Consider man, who may well become extinct Because he forgot how to walk and learned how to fly before he thinked. -- Ogden Nash

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kipi-plugins
by Istvan Gabor 17 Jan '17

17 Jan '17

Hello: Where are the kipi plugins in TDE? I cannot find them. I am on openSUSE 13.2 and Trinity R14.0.4. Thanks, Istvan

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Re: [trinity-users] Trinity can't see gtk-qt-engine
by Leslie Turriff 16 Jan '17

16 Jan '17

On Saturday 14 January 2017 23:31:21 Felix Miata wrote: > Leslie Turriff composed on 2017-01-15 02:10 (UTC+0100): > > > I'm running Trinity R14.0.4 on OpenSuSE Leap 42.2. Trinity Control Center > > reports that gtk-qt-engine is not installed, but YaST reports that it is. > > (See attachments.) This impairs use of some GTK-based applications. I'm > > not sure how to diagnose this further. > Your YaST search term is too limiting. What you need is both of: > > trinity-gtk-qt-engine > trinity-gtk3-tqt-engine > > plus whatever deps. > > Without YaST running, try this from terminal or Konsole: > > zypper se -s gtk | grep qt > -- > "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant > words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) > > Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! > > Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ Okay. I ran zypper and got these results: $ zypper se -s gtk|grep qt | qtcurve-gtk2 | package | 1.8.19~git20150303-2.2 | x86_64 | openSUSE-Leap-42.2-Oss | qtcurve-gtk2-debuginfo | package | 1.8.19~git20150303-2.2 | x86_64 | openSUSE-Leap-42.2-Debug i | trinity-gtk-qt-engine | package | 2:0.8-14.0.4_1.oss422 | x86_64 | Trinity x86_64 | trinity-gtk-qt-engine-debuginfo | package | 2:0.8-14.0.4_1.oss422 | x86_64 | Trinity x86_64 | trinity-gtk-qt-engine-debugsource | package | 2:0.8-14.0.4_1.oss422 | x86_64 | Trinity x86_64 i | trinity-gtk3-tqt-engine | package | 2:0.5-14.0.4_1.oss422 | x86_64 | Trinity x86_64 | trinity-gtk3-tqt-engine-debuginfo | package | 2:0.5-14.0.4_1.oss422 | x86_64 | Trinity x86_64 | trinity-gtk3-tqt-engine-debugsource | package | 2:0.5-14.0.4_1.oss422 | x86_64 | Trinity x86_64 zypper says both are installed. Is the presence of qtcurve-gtk2 an issue? Leslie -- A Caution to Everybody Consider the Auk; Becoming extinct because he forgot how to fly, and could only walk. Consider man, who may well become extinct Because he forgot how to walk and learned how to fly before he thinked. -- Ogden Nash

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Trinity can't see gtk-qt-engine
by Leslie Turriff 15 Jan '17

15 Jan '17

I'm running Trinity R14.0.4 on OpenSuSE Leap 42.2. Trinity Control Center reports that gtk-qt-engine is not installed, but YaST reports that it is. (See attachments.) This impairs use of some GTK-based applications. I'm not sure how to diagnose this further. Leslie -- A Caution to Everybody Consider the Auk; Becoming extinct because he forgot how to fly, and could only walk. Consider man, who may well become extinct Because he forgot how to walk and learned how to fly before he thinked. -- Ogden Nash

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serious mount problem
by Istvan Gabor 14 Jan '17

14 Jan '17

Hello: I have Trinity R14.0.4 on openSUSE Leap 42.2. The desktop has a "My Computer" icon which is a shortcut to media:/. It opens a window that shows a lot of (all?) hard disk volumes/partitions. The problem: Normal user can mount any of these partititions. This is a SERIOUS security flaw. Normal user should not be able to mount internal disk partitions unless the partition is explicitely set so in /etc/fstab using "user" or "users" options. This behavior can lead to unintentional disruption of raid arrays and enable normal users to modify other users' files in other OSs on other partitions. It is also very strange that a user running mount command can not mount those partitions while the desktop system makes it possible. How can this behavior be changed so that normal could not mount other partitions? I would like to report this as a bug, how can I? Thanks, Istvan

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Re: [trinity-users] Re: Missing entry in the Trinity Desktop menu
by Leslie Turriff 13 Jan '17

13 Jan '17

On Thursday 12 January 2017 05:16:33 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Thursday 12 January 2017 07:50:23 deloptes wrote: > > Leslie Turriff wrote: > > > Is anyone else seeing > > > this > > > > On debian jessie I have the item in the menu. > > I too have it in Debian Jessie. Apparently there was something hinky about my X11 setup; the missing fields reappeared after I rebooted my system. (I thought I had done that, but apparently not.) > > Could you possibly post in plain text, please, Leslie? HTML is very > difficult to read. I don't usually bother. Sorry. For some reason kmail has been unable to send mail to smtp.mail.com, though it can retrieve mail from pop3.mail.com; so I have been using the mail.com web interface until that is resolved. And now I have figured out how to make it send text format. Leslie -- A Caution to Everybody Consider the Auk; Becoming extinct because he forgot how to fly, and could only walk. Consider man, who may well become extinct Because he forgot how to walk and learned how to fly before he thinked. -- Ogden Nash

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[trinity-users] 14.0.4 titlebar icon/button sizes too small
by Felix Miata 12 Jan '17

12 Jan '17

What part of settings provides control over $SUBJECT? I have panel and desktop icons acceptably sized (very much bigger than default), but can't find anything that works for those in the titlebar (aka window decorations minimize, maximize, close) no matter which theming is applied. Places tried: 1-appearance & themes -> icons -> advanced -> size (a logical place to try, but which lacks a "titlebar" selection, and in which several selections offer no option to change size at all) 2-appearance & themes -> theme manager (tried in Keramik, Plastik and KDE_Classic) 3-appearance & themes -> window decorations -> buttons Surely there must be a way to enlarge titlebar buttons, but how? -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/

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Missing entry in the Trinity Desktop menu
by Leslie Turriff 12 Jan '17

12 Jan '17

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Re: [trinity-users] 14.0.4 titlebar icon/button sizes too small
by Leslie Turriff 12 Jan '17

12 Jan '17

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desktop icons for automounted external USB hard disks
by Istvan Gabor 11 Jan '17

11 Jan '17

Hello: TDE handles external USB hard drives the same as internal non-USB (ie SATA) drives. After plugging in an external USB hard drive it only places a device icon to the desktop if device icons for unmounted/mounted hard disks are enabled. I don't want to enable those icons because I have ~20 partitions I don't want to put on the desktop as devices. Still I would like to have removable USB hard disk icons on the desktop similarly to flash disks. How can I do it? In my opinion removable hard disk should be distinguished from internal non-removable drives in this context. Thanks, Istvan

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Re: [trinity-users] konqueror problem
by Jonesy 09 Jan '17

09 Jan '17

On Sun, 8 Jan 2017, Dave Lers wrote: >Jonesy wrote: >> >> I wanted to edit a file, and right clicked on it, and >> as usual, I clicked on the "Open With..." option - and >> chose 'kwrite'. >> >> But, this time to my grief, I clicked the "Always Open this file >> type..." > >In Konqueror, right click a .php file (or whatever file type you want >to change) > properties > wrench icon > change preference order. YES!! That was it! And, so obscure it is. sigh... Thank you, thank you!! Happy New Year to you, Dave, and all the Trinity denizens. So far this weekend, this is my only system snafu to get put right. (All the others are outside the Trinity domain.) Jonesy -- Marvin L Jones | Marvin | W3DHJ | linux Pueblo, Colorado | @ | Jonesy | FreeBSD __ 38.238N 104.547W | jonz.net | DM78rf | OS/2 SK

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konqueror problem
by Jonesy 09 Jan '17

09 Jan '17

I have a wee little problem. konqueror no longer opens links in a displayed web page. Instead it pops up, viz: Open 'http://jonz.tst/W3DHJ/vhfrover.php'? Type: HTML Document [Save As] [Open with 'kwrite'] [Cancel] And _sometimes_ , very rarely, I can successfully "Open in New Tab". But, even the "New Tab" will most likely present me with ONLY the 'kwrite' popup option. Backstory: This seems to have occurred when I visited a web site with konqueror via sftp://. I wanted to edit a file, and right clicked on it, and as usual, I clicked on the "Open With..." option - and chose 'kwrite'. But, this time to my grief, I clicked the "Always Open this file type..." (or, some text to that nature...) button. I believe that's what caused my current problem. What I've done to try to fix it: I've drilled down through [Settings]>[Configure konqueror] and can find nothing that affects this behavior. I've grep'ed -R for 'kwrite' in the ~/.trinity/ directories and see no hits that would be associated with my problem. I'm sure others here have bumped into this and know the way free of the problem. So, where do I looked next? Thank you, Jonesy -- Marvin L Jones | W3DHJ | W3DHJ | https://W3DHJ.net/ Pueblo, Colorado | @ | Jonesy | __ 38.238N 104.547W | jonz.net | DM78rf | 73 SK

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Thumbnails in konqueror not working for new users
by office＠klepp.biz 08 Jan '17

08 Jan '17

Hi all! Could somebody please verify this: Create a new user, log in with that account and let the wizard ceate a configuration. Now open konqueror, go to a folder with images. You only see thumbnails for images with embedded thumbnails and a generic icon for all other images. Log out from TDE, open a virtual console, log in as previouse user and edit ~/.trinity/share/config/kdeglobals, find this section: [PreviewSettings] MaximumSize=0 Now change "MaximumSize=0" to something bigger, e.g.: MaximumSize=10000000 Log into TDE again, go to the perevious folder. Now all thumbnails are created. Open kcontrol, select "TDE Components/Filemanger", there the tab "Preview". "Max. File size" is fixed to 0 - which causes the thumbnails not to be created. Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA.

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How do I turn off the Logout application countdown timer?
by Leslie Turriff 07 Jan '17

07 Jan '17

This countdown timer serves no useful purpose for me, since I'm the only user of my machine. How can I turn it off so my logout completes more quickly? Leslie

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[UPDATE] End of Year Fundraiser Results
by Timothy Pearson 07 Jan '17

07 Jan '17

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA224 All, A big Thank You for participating in our end of year fundraiser for 2016. Your contributions were much appreciated, and will help to keep TDE online. The total received only came to a small fraction of the operating costs for the TDE core services, so we will probably be running another fundraiser this spring and exploring options in terms of disconnecting or downgrading certain services to lower operating costs. We do have several incentives to make an annual contribution. At the $200 level or above (per year) we will allow access to our up-to-date builds of Raspbian with TDE preinstalled, along with other goodies. As before, if you have a particularly nasty bug you want fixed, a good way to get attention is to offer a contribution in exchange for the fix -- proceeds go to keeping TDE online and available for all to use. Thank you again for your support! Tim -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iFYEARELAAYFAlhtjOgACgkQLaxZSoRZrGHuiQDgtbSMvMTyAVeSfGue9I/wkCM6 U1EEHsEfcBeTUwDcCHCSgHXJvqkquuMUsjwrU5KCqH+NEMCErbfUDw== =b8y8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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New Kate session panel (was [Re: [trinity-users] Re: Re: Kate can't remember to 'Hide Documents'r])
by Michele Calgaro 05 Jan '17

05 Jan '17

>> Emanoil, >> actually the code to handle sessions for R14.1 has been fully rewritten, >> although not pushed yet. If you are interested, I can send you a patch >> with all the current changes and you can test locally. It would be helpful >> to have additional feedback from you. I have been using the new >> functionality for about a year and is quite stable. Let me know ;-) >> >> Cheers >> Michele > > I build this on jessie some time ago > > dpkg -l | grep kate > ii kate-plugins-trinity 4:14.1.0-0debian8.0.5+eko1 > amd64 plugins for Kate, the TDE Advanced Text Editor > ii kate-trinity 4:14.1.0-0debian8.0.5+eko1 > amd64 advanced text editor for TDE > ii libkate1 0.4.1-4 > amd64 Codec for karaoke and text encapsulation > > Do you mean we are using later version and do not see the problems that are > discussed here? > > I did not see any difference (IMO) from user perspective. > Hi Emanoil, sorry for the late reply to this (too busy with work, family and trying to fix TDE support for openssl 1.1 in stretch). Attached is a cumulative patch for tdebase that you can use to preview the new Kate session panel I mentioned before. You can apply the patch again the current main trunk. This will add a new session panel to Kate and rework session support almost entirely. I am actually planning more work on this (to add support for files in sessions as well, making it similar to a mini-project manager) but will probably be delayed to R14.2 or whatever. !!! Please NOTE the following !!! - all existing Kate sessions will be imported - the "default session" is no longer hardwired and actually does not really need to exist any more (it can be renamed/delete) - after you finish your testing, if you want to go back to the existing Kate (without the new session panel), you will NOT be able to use the session files from Kate-with-the-session-panel. Therefore if you just want to do a test, I recommend you save all you session files (~/.trinity/share/apps/kate/sessions folder) before you use the new Kate. So far I have used this for about a year (through development) and have not yet pushed the code to the main repo. Any feedback from you (or anyone else willing to test) would be more than welcome. If positive enough, I will probably push the changes. Cheers Michele

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TDE 14.0.4 on Debian Stretch, tdm-trinity, tdeinit problem
by L.S. McCarty 01 Jan '17

01 Jan '17

Hello to all. I'm a long-time TDE user running TDE 14.0.4 amd64 on Debian 9.x Stretch (unstable, actually Siduction, using systemd). It works well, although I occasionally run into minor issues that I eventually solve. It is after all "unstable". Over the last few weeks a problem remains, binutils_2.27-9_amd64.deb works fine, but several updates of this program which can be loaded by itself, most recently binutils_2.27.90.201612331-1_amd64.deb, all render the system unbootable. The boot cycle proceeds from sda1 without any errors but the tdm signon comes up with a black background rather the normal blue TDE one. When I logon I get an error message and TDE does not load, showing a problem with my home partition on sda5: Could not read connection list /home/lsm1/.DCOPserver_LSM1_0 Please check that the "dcopserver" program is running When I hit Enter I then get: Could not start tdeinit, Check your installation. This problem is specific to TDE as I can still load the backup desktop LXQT by the usual logon from the TDE signon box. When I boot to the console and downgrade to binutils_2.27-9_amd64.deb everything works as usual on the reboot. If anyone has any possible solutions I'd be happy to try them out and report back. -- SENT BY: Lynn McCarty

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installing on uefi multiboot.
by Felmon Davis 01 Jan '17

01 Jan '17

greets! I want to install Trinity on a multiboot uefi system. I think I've messed up the uefi already so I am wary about doing something that renders the system unbootable. (will of course do backup but still...) it's got Windows 7 and NetRunner on it. csm is turned on (which I think is part of the problem) and of course secure boot and fast boot are off. when it boots it goes into BIOS, ok UEFI, and I can choose or it defaults to Linux. my preference would be to have a grub interface but so be it for now. suppose I now install Trinity. should I let it write to the mbr or rather to its own partition? if you know a good (detailed but essentials highlighted) online reference, that would be great. as yet I'm confused about the logic of uefi. thanks for advice! f. -- Felmon Davis Data, n.: An accrual of straws on the backs of theories.

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End of Year Fundraiser
by Timothy Pearson 01 Jan '17

01 Jan '17

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA224 All, I'll keep this short and simple. The TDE project needs your financial support to continue hosting the services critical for further development. This year we are have fallen significantly short of breaking even on the monthly expenses needed to keep TDE online and under active development; these expenses primarily consist of electricity for the TDE servers and Internet bandwidth. I have been covering the shortfall for several years now, but it has become a great strain over the past few months. If you would prefer to offer financial rewards for fixing specific bugs, that works too, but the bottom line is we need additional financial support to avoid further service cuts that could slow / stop development. We are not in a position to outsource portions of the TDE infrastructure beyond what has already been migrated to external systems such as the mirror distribution system. Attempting to split up the remaining core would simply incur even higher bandwidth costs than what we already have, and altering the stable, running system at this point could end up halting development entirely. Finally, I'd like to personally thank those individuals who have donated, are hosting portions of the TDE infrastructure such as the mirror system and backup site, or have been actively working on TDE development over the past year. Your contributions are much appreciated, and TDE would not be possible without them! If you can, please donate to the TDE project here, and thanks! https://trinitydesktop.org/donate.php Timothy Pearson TDE Founder -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iFYEARELAAYFAlhcP/wACgkQLaxZSoRZrGHFYwDgvaDKdsaD6QrDqK95Rkq3buKA tdlTAMPDrnhPXADfWSnQF85ebtuDIPNXwuRvrDhsF5jSMnMwU/GOvQ== =Vkiu -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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[OT] question about ultrabook
by Felmon Davis 28 Dec '16

28 Dec '16

hey, I'm considering the zenbook ux330ua. I've found people online saying they successfully installed Mint or some other Linux variant; so I'm confident about Trinity. (I got Trinity on a ux305f, no problem, also Windows 7.) I'd prefer Windows 7 on it instead of Windows 10. I see no one who's undertaken this and no drivers on Asus's site. can I infer from the fact that Linux will install that Windows 7 will LIKELY install also? or a complete leap in the dark? I'm also considering the Thinkpad Carbon x1 which is likely no problem at all; older but maybe more functional. f. -- Felmon Davis For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple, neat, and wrong. -- H. L. Mencken

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More Q4OS weirdnesses
by Thierry de Coulon 27 Dec '16

27 Dec '16

As I allready said, Q4OS's implementation of TDE is missing many elements that have to be installed afterwards, if you wish to have the usual services. Several elements of TDE settings are not installed in the default option. The latest I've discovered is elements of TDE settings present, but not working: TDE settings opens to an icon vue. There are Icons, but a click opens the *.desktop file in kedit. Example for "File Association": [Desktop Entry] Icon=filetypes Type=Application Exec=tdecmshell filetypes X-DocPath=kcontrol/filetypes/index.html Categories=Qt;TDE;X-TDE-settings-components; X-TDE-Library=filetypes X-TDE-ParentApp=kcontrol Name=File Associations Name[af]=Lêer Assosiasies Name[ar]=ارتباطات الملفات Name[az]=Fayl Əlaqələri Name[be]=Асацыяцыі файлаў (***) A workaround is to execute "tdecmshell filetypes" Obviously, the problem is a missing association, as if I copy the *.desktop file to my openSuSE system, everything works fine. But what is this association? x-desktop has no association in my settings. However, TDE/openSuSE opens *.desktop files correctly, as programs or as tdecmshell whatever... Where to look for information? Thierry

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[UPDATE] End of Year Fundraiser
by Timothy Pearson 26 Dec '16

26 Dec '16

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA224 All, A big thank you to all who have donated thus far! Unfortunately, the total received is still *far* lower than the overall expenditure on TDE this year. For those who have not donated, please remember that every little bit helps and is appreciated. Regarding the current PayPal / BitCoin options, the only other option I am aware of is Google Pay to possibly accept donations. I have personally avoided Google Pay because it would seem to centralize too much information (personal life + financial information) in one location, however it is one of the only other alternatives to PayPal. Would offering this help those of you opposed to PayPal for various reasons contribute to TDE? Thanks again! Tim -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iFYEARELAAYFAlhhboUACgkQLaxZSoRZrGGJ/ADeLJikYpK6i3N8diThKvFsOg4G AAUXovMvmt0tRQDfWB3opQFgI/kzj7Dvs78QmgjJK+etUhngYiN2ig== =7NZp -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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KMix panel shows capture instead of playback
by Ló Béla 26 Dec '16

26 Dec '16

Hi. I have an SB Audigy Rx and if i check PCM and Analog Mix in the KMix panel on Kicker then it shows the capture channels instead of playback. I tried to edit the rc-s, but no effect. There is a picture: http://oscomp.hu/depot/alsamixer_vs_kmix.png As it shows, ALSAMixer can control both capture and playback of PCM and the capture one is muted and down there KMix panel shows the capture one instead of playback.Is this a bug or a config error? - TCH

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magic Kate warnings
by Leslie Turriff 26 Dec '16

26 Dec '16

Just out of curiosity, I wonder why, when I start Kate from Konsole, I see these? $ kate wkhtml2pdf.help , 3: Warning: using regular magic file `/etc/magic' pw8, 3: Warning: using regular magic file `/etc/magic' `z>, 3: Warning: using regular magic file `/etc/magic' /etc/magic, 3: Warning: using regular magic file `/etc/magic' x'�E�, 3: Warning: using regular magic file `/etc/magic' /etc/magic, 3: Warning: using regular magic file `/etc/magic' /etc/magic, 3: Warning: using regular magic file `/etc/trinity/magic/hk_classes.magic' /etc/trinity/magic/hk_classes.magic, 3: Warning: using regular magic file `/etc/magic' /etc/magic, 3: Warning: using regular magic file `/etc/trinity/magic/hk_classes.magic' Leslie

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q4os implementation of TDE
by Thierry de Coulon 24 Dec '16

24 Dec '16

I've been experimenting with q4os. I've installed the pi version on my pi 3, and tody the direct installation version on a desktop (I have not yet tested the "live CD", that is supposed to let you choose where to install grub, and maybe also other things. While the system is fast, debian based and one of the only distributions I know to bring TDE directly, I found the implementation, well, let's say it could be better: - beside being called "q4os-desktop", it depends on tdesu. It took me some time to find how to get it to use tdesu instead, and I am not sure everything works. - But mainly, lots of things are missing. I had to basically install / reinstall everything with "trinity" to get some (to me) important configuration stuff. Out of the boy one could neither change the icon set, nor the window decoration. Other TDE control center elements were missing, such as the login manager. I have nothing against having to run synaptic, but I *knew* that it was possible to setup things. I know at least one man I directed to q4os (because he needed a system to run on an older notebook). He did not know TDE (nor KDE 3 I guess). q4os may introduce more people to TDE, and they will just get the feeling that TDE can't be changed the way they like. Shouldn't Trinity tell q4os to at least *tell* the users that the UI has been cropped and the way to get back all the functionality? Thierry -- "Great Man reaches complete understanding of the main issues; Petty Man reaches complete understanding of the minute details." Confucius

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Re: [trinity-users] Re: Kate can't remember to 'Hide Documents'r
by Dave Lers 24 Dec '16

24 Dec '16

Stefan Krusche wrote: > 2) close the documents list (and/or side bar), save the session. > There is only "Default session", so the running session, which > is the default session, will be saved as default.session in > kate/sessions/ (would be saved in default.session anyway, but > without your changes) Making the initial tool view changes to the default session may be the key. While I already had a default session, that is where I made the initial changes and I have not had any issues with the memory loss others are experiencing. > 3) next time you start kate, it will find default.session with your > saved changes concerning the view of docs list/side bar. > > BUT: still strange is, that the second time I tried that, kate > would not let me save the freshly opened session, but popped up a > dialog to enter a name for the session to save. I then "opened" > from within kate "Default session" (the only one in the list) I didn't have this issue because I had Kate configured to save sessions on exit. I can confirm that manually saving the default session (when it is the only session) can only be done after selecting it from the Sessions menu.

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Re: [trinity-users] End of Year Fundraiser
by midi-pascal 24 Dec '16

24 Dec '16

On 16-12-23 04:21 AM, Uwe Brauer wrote: >>>> "Timothy" == Timothy Pearson <kb9vqf(a)pearsoncomputing.net> writes: > > All, > > I'll keep this short and simple. The TDE project needs your financial > > support to continue hosting the services critical for further development. > > Hi > > Paypal sucks. I wanted to pay with my spanish credit card. The interface > which allows me to pay without logging in, asks me for a city (ciudad) > and a province, however whatever province I chose (I live in Madrid, > province Madrid) is refused. Hi Uwe, I am from Canada (Québec) and I had the same problem: no way to enter my province (QC) since it is not in the list. So I selected the first value (do not even remember what it was) and it passed! I was then able to finish my donation. It looks like there is no validation on this field... Hope this helps. Regards, Pascal Viandier > Could you please talk to the paypal guys? > Regards > > Uwe Brauer > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net > For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net > Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ > Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting >

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[trinity-users] New Exe GNU/Linux (Devuan + TDE) Live Images
by David Hare 23 Dec '16

23 Dec '16

New live-images for i386 and amd64 are now available: http://exegnulinux.net/downloads https://sourceforge.net/projects/exegnulinux/ The exegnulinux.net download page will redirect to sourceforge.net where the ISO's (<700MB) are currently hosted. These ISO's use a Devuan base. The only current mainstream Debian+TDE live images now appear to be q4os. I wish to continue to support TDE but at this point, not systemd. Officially, Devuan is still "beta" but I can't fault it's stability. Thanks to Timothy and all from the TDE dev team, without you this could not be done. Please note, this is not an "official" TDE (nor Devuan) project. Also, please, don't use this thread for general systemd debate. David

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Re: [trinity-users] Kate can't remember to 'Hide Documents'r
by Leslie Turriff 21 Dec '16

21 Dec '16

Okay, I tried this, but it's not working for me. Here's what I did and what happened: 1) I renamed ~/.trinity/share/apps/kate to ~/.trinity/share/apps/kate~ 2) I started kate (using its icon), then closed it. kate created a new apps directory, with an empty sessions subdirectory. 3) I restarted kate and it still shows the sidebar with the file names. 4) I tried creating and saving a dummy file to make kate create a session, but its sessions subdirectory remains empty. :-( On 2016-12-17 09:16:20 Stefan Krusche wrote: > After a little experimenting I found this workaround: > > 1) Start with pristine kate config dir > > cp ~/.trinity/share/apps/kate{,orig} > > 2) Open kate with no arguments and close it > > 3) Open ~/.trinity/share/apps/kate/sessions/default.session with an editor > and change these options to "false" and save file. > Kate-MDI-Sidebar-Visible=false > Kate-MDI-ToolView-kate_filelist-Visible=false > > 4) Next time you open kate it will neither show the side bar nor the > document list.

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Re: [trinity-users] Re: Re: : How to change the default Konqueror file-manager view mode to Tree?
by Dave Lers 20 Dec '16

20 Dec '16

deloptes wrote: > Dave Lers wrote: >> What does your settings > configure > Home URL link to? What is at >> the top of that folders embedding preference list (properties > >> spanner)? Is the home link the only place you get an icon view? > > I would love to answer this question, but I do not understand it. I > don't find anything like home url under settings > configure (might Images attached.

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Re: [trinity-users] Kate can't remember to 'Hide Documents'r
by Dave Lers 20 Dec '16

20 Dec '16

Thierry de Coulon wrote: > Now the settings seem to stick on my desktop. Before, setting "save session" on exit would bring back the "Documents" window. The Tool View changes are session specific. The Tool View settings, for the session that you open Kate with, will be used for all sessions that you open using the Session menu. If you don't change all saved sessions, things can get weird. If you start with a changed session, all sessions will appear changed. If you start with an unchanged session, none will appear changed.

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Re: [trinity-users] Re: : How to change the default Konqueror file-manager view mode to Tree?
by Dave Lers 19 Dec '16

19 Dec '16

deloptes wrote: > Lou Gogan wrote: >> Within konqueror right click directory folder >> - choose properties >> - click the little button with the spanner icon >> - go to the embedding tab >> -if treeview isn't at the top of the list then move it up to the >> top (if treeview IS at the top of the list then, 'Heuston, we have >> a problem' > but my problem is of different nature, because, when I open > konqueror I see it in trieeview. You'll get that if your view profile was saved when using tree view. Viewing everthing else in tree (or whatever) view is what we're after. > now following the first post, I > moved tree view on top and I can see it it is definitely on top, > but when I open a new tab and click the home icon it still opens > in icon view or whatever What does your settings > configure > Home URL link to? What is at the top of that folders embedding preference list (properties > spanner)? Is the home link the only place you get an icon view?

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How to change the default Konqueror file-manager view mode to Tree?
by Leslie Turriff 18 Dec '16

18 Dec '16

I use Konqueror for preference for all of my GUI file management tasks. Every time I open a new tab for a different directory tree it defaults to 'Icon View', and I have to change it (again). Is there a way to tell Konqueror to open a tab with 'Tree View' instead? Leslie

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Kate can't remember to 'Hide Documents'
by Leslie Turriff 18 Dec '16

18 Dec '16

How can I "remind" Kate that I have set 'Window -> Hide Documents'? I've set it and saved it in the default session, but every time I reopen Kate, there's that irritating document list. I searched the forum archive, but though I've seen other folks complain about the presence of the document list, all of the responses seem disinclined to provide an actual solution to its presence. :-) Leslie

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konqueror profile in kicker menu not sorted alphabetically
by Stefan Krusche 18 Dec '16

18 Dec '16

Hello everybody, does anyone use konqueror profiles in kmenu? In TDE panel options/menu you can configure konqueror profiles to be included as a submenu in kmenu to be able to access them there. On my system these konqueror profiles in a submenu of kmenu unfortunally are not sorted alphabetically, so that it is very hard to make use of this feature when you have more than only a few profiles there. (Konqueror profiles accessed through konqueror's settings/"load view profile" submenu are sorted correctly, the same in "configure view profiles" dialog). Kate profiles shown in kmenu will sort properly, too. These extensions are configured in kickerrc: Extensions=katesessionmenu.desktop,konquerormenu.desktop and the according .desktop files are found in: /opt/trinity/share/apps/kicker/menuext The .desktop file calls for a library X-TDE-Library=kickermenu_konqueror which lives in: ./lib/trinity/kickermenu_konqueror.so ./lib/trinity/kickermenu_konqueror.la So there I reached binary/programming level where I gave up (I'm not a programmer), so I assume, this rather could be understood by one of the appreciated programmers of this community, which I would like to ask to have a look at the issue, if there is no solution on configuration level, which I possibly have missed and which is welcomed as well. Kind regards, Stefan Krusche KDE3/TDE user since the first release of KDE3 Berlin, Deutschland

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Re: [trinity-users] Configure Konqueror
by Thierry de Coulon 17 Dec '16

17 Dec '16

On Friday 16 December 2016 21.38:32 Ivan Borodin wrote: > Greetings! > I've installed the awesome konqueror-trinity and now wonder, what else > should I add to be able to configure it's appearance: colors, window > decorations, icons... Could you give me a tip? > -- > Ivan Hello Ivan, As far as I know you can't customize konqueor alone. You can configure windows, colors and icons for whole TDE in the settings, but I know of no customization for konqueror only (except the toolbars). Regards, Thierry

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Configure Konqueror
by Ivan Borodin 16 Dec '16

16 Dec '16

Greetings! I've installed the awesome konqueror-trinity and now wonder, what else should I add to be able to configure it's appearance: colors, window decorations, icons... Could you give me a tip? -- Ivan

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Troubles with kmail indexes recently.
by Gene Heskett 16 Dec '16

16 Dec '16

Greetings; kmail has taken to forgetting its index pointers quite often recently, so when I revisit a folder, I often find the displayed msg is the first one in the list sort, which in 2 folders which have no expiry set, I often find myself re-reading a msg thats 14 years old and nearly 100K msgs older than the current last msg. I have two spam related folders I expect kmail will have to frequently rebuild because some spam messages caught by spamd & procmail might be written directly to the full path of that directory, and the script that runs sa-learn -spam on the spam folder, moves those messages to the spam-hold directory so in case it wasn't spam I can rescue it and move it to the ham folder. Since the email corpus here is quite a few gigabytes, is this an indicator that kmail needs a larger memory allocation?, and if so, how do I give it another 100 or so megs? According to htop, its only using 1% of the 8GB in this machine. This is a 32 bit, pae enabled install of wheezy, all uptodate as of 30 minutes ago. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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kontact crashes from time to time
by deloptes 14 Dec '16

14 Dec '16

From time to time when I switch in kontact from one view to the contacts view, kontact crashes. Now I looked into .xsession-err *** Error in `kontact': malloc(): memory corruption (fast): 0x0000000002291eeb *** [TDE NM Backend ERROR] [/opt/software_x64/KDE/TDE/tdelibs/tdecore/tdehw/networkbackends/network-manager/network-manager.cpp:1823] Attempting to access the network-manager VPN service returned: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.VPN.Plugin was not provided by any .service files WeaverThreadLogger: thread (ID: 2) suspended. WeaverThreadLogger: thread (ID: 4) suspended. WeaverThreadLogger: thread (ID: 3) suspended. WeaverThreadLogger: thread (ID: 1) suspended. *** KMail got signal 6 (Crashing) How can I track this down? Should I turn on debugging for all that ... and what partiularly thanks regards

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Raspberry Pi3+
by Baron 12 Dec '16

12 Dec '16

Hi Guys. Will Trinity run on a Raspberry Pi3+ ? If so what is needed in order to do this. Thanks in advance. -- Best Regards: Baron

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Re: [trinity-users] "Arbitrary changes to their UI"
by midi-pascal 10 Dec '16

10 Dec '16

On 16-12-10 10:53 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Saturday 10 December 2016 07:12:58 midi-pascal wrote: > >> ls -l ~/.wmWeatherReports/ > I got them in my ~/.wmWeatherReports directory, but neglected to see if > gkrellm had updated. So chowned it to root:root and overwrote the one > in /usr/share/gkrellm, and when I did look as soon as I'd hit F10 on the > root session of mc, gkrellm had updated. Glad to see it worked! In my first script change (in fact I rewrote it) I left part of the processing, my bad. > I had set gkrellms weather page for a 1 minute refresh, but they don't > refresh that often, but before I slowed it down to 15 minutes, those > files in my home directory were getting their time stamp kept up to the > minute. Hovering over the weather line of gkrellm shows they had last > updated at 10:00 AM, and its 10:52 here now. I just set it back to 10 > minutes, and the files in my home directory were updated, but not the > data. I'll get a better idea of when they do a new snapshot that way. Don't rush on the timer: as I figured out, the data is updated hourly. > I do believe I am back in business! Thank you very much!, whoever you > really are. /Do not be afraid, I am not a bot ;-) My name is Pascal Viandier, a French man living in Canada for 32 years and a TDE enthusiast for many years. This is ///really /who I am, probably with a bit defective English! Regards, Pascal / > Cheers, Gene Heskett

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Re: [trinity-users] "Arbitrary changes to their UI"
by midi-pascal 10 Dec '16

10 Dec '16

<snip> On 16-12-09 09:47 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: >>>> I made a workaround for this problem when gkrellm weather plugin >>>> stopped working. >>>> It is only a Perl script (native to the plugin) to modify. >>>> If you are interested I can send it with instructions to this >>>> list. >>>> >>>> Cheers. >>> Please, send away! And thank you, as a perl geek I am not. I speak >>> just enough C or assembly(on a 6x09 platform), to be dangerous. >> Here is the Perl script in attachment :-) >> The problem is that the URL to fetch the weather data changed and the >> data format too... >> >> The script name is: GrabWeather >> To install it, replace the existing one in /usr/share/gkrellm/: >> sudo cp GrabWeather /usr/share/gkrellm/ >> make sure it is executable: >> sudo chmod 755 /usr/share/gkrellm/GrabWeather >> >> Then restart gkrellm. >> That's it! > I didn't kill the old one, but renamed it, And made all the rights & > owners match the old one. Stopped gkrellm & restarted it several times > but no difference. The url address in the old one had been patched > once, and that is still that address in the "get your station ID at" > box. > > Running as root ./GRabWeather KCKB returns nothing, and as me: > ./GrabWeather KCKB > Cannot specify both -k and -O if multiple URLs are given, or in > combination > with -p or -r. See the manual for details. > > Usage: wget [OPTION]... [URL]... > > Manual? I doubt if the old one applies to this code. > > Call me puzzled. Sorry it did not worked the first time, BUT... Could you try the new script in attachment? Execute it at the command line with your city code as an argument. ex: ./GrabWeather KCKB If the script worked properly, there should be 2 files in ~/.wmWeatherReports/ directory: KCKB.dat KCKB.txt Their timestamp must reflect they were just created. When I execute it, ls -l ~/.wmWeatherReports/ gives me: -rw-rw-r-- 1 pascal pascal 98 Dec 10 07:10 KCKB.dat -rw-rw-r-- 1 pascal pascal 601 Dec 10 07:10 KCKB.TXT If so the script worked as expected and you can install it safely in /usr/share/gkrellm/ Hope it will be OK this time :-) midi-pascal

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Re: [trinity-users] "Arbitrary changes to their UI"
by midi-pascal 10 Dec '16

10 Dec '16

<snip> >>> I'm that guy off screen, haveing handily exceeded the average life >>> time the media is going nuts over. >>> >>> This is off topic as can be, but calling the service has never >>> actually put me in touch with anybody that knew what I was talking >>> about. so... >>> >>> However, your sig makes me lodge a conplaint about a service thats >>> has apparently been discontinued, eg the access to current >>> conditions at "KCKB", or for that matter any other net station. >>> >>> I have a system monitor called gkrellm that has a weather plugin, >>> and its last valid connection was July 28th, 11:53 pm. I found it >>> quite handy, and since it was a totally automated service, self >>> updating at about 30 minute intervals, saw no financial advantage >>> for NWS/you in shutting off that service. Can it not be restored? I >>> believe the problem lies in the DNS lookup of KCKB or any other of >>> the 4 letter station codes used for this service nationwide. You can >>> PM me at gheskett at shentel dot net >> I made a workaround for this problem when gkrellm weather plugin >> stopped working. >> It is only a Perl script (native to the plugin) to modify. >> If you are interested I can send it with instructions to this list. >> >> Cheers. >> > Please, send away! And thank you, as a perl geek I am not. I speak just > enough C or assembly(on a 6x09 platform), to be dangerous. Here is the Perl script in attachment :-) The problem is that the URL to fetch the weather data changed and the data format too... The script name is: GrabWeather To install it, replace the existing one in /usr/share/gkrellm/: sudo cp GrabWeather /usr/share/gkrellm/ make sure it is executable: sudo chmod 755 /usr/share/gkrellm/GrabWeather Then restart gkrellm. That's it! Disclaimer :-) It worked perfectly for me but I cannot ensure it will work for you... Enjoy! midi-pascal

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Re: [trinity-users] "Arbitrary changes to their UI"
by midi-pascal 09 Dec '16

09 Dec '16

On 16-12-09 12:39 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 09 December 2016 10:08:49 Peter Laws wrote: > >> Believe this has some relevance here. >> >> http://xkcd.com/1770/ > I'm that guy off screen, haveing handily exceeded the average life time > the media is going nuts over. > > This is off topic as can be, but calling the service has never actually > put me in touch with anybody that knew what I was talking about. so... > > However, your sig makes me lodge a conplaint about a service thats has > apparently been discontinued, eg the access to current conditions > at "KCKB", or for that matter any other net station. > > I have a system monitor called gkrellm that has a weather plugin, and its > last valid connection was July 28th, 11:53 pm. I found it quite handy, > and since it was a totally automated service, self updating at about 30 > minute intervals, saw no financial advantage for NWS/you in shutting off > that service. Can it not be restored? I believe the problem lies in the > DNS lookup of KCKB or any other of the 4 letter station codes used for > this service nationwide. You can PM me at gheskett at shentel dot net > I made a workaround for this problem when gkrellm weather plugin stopped working. It is only a Perl script (native to the plugin) to modify. If you are interested I can send it with instructions to this list. Cheers. >> Thanks to the TDE team letting me do "stuff I do all the time" like I >> always have!! > I'll second that!! >> >> -- >> Peter Laws, BS, MRCP / N5UWY >> National Weather Center / Network Operations Center >> University of Oklahoma Information Technology >> plaws(a)ou.edu >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >> trinity-users-unsubscribe(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net For additional >> commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net Read >> list messages on the web archive: >> http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to >> top-post: >> http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting > > Cheers, Gene Heskett

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Re: [trinity-users] "Arbitrary changes to their UI"
by midi-pascal 09 Dec '16

09 Dec '16

On 16-12-09 02:51 PM, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > Am Freitag, 9. Dezember 2016 schrieb Thierry de Coulon: >> On Friday 09 December 2016 16.08:49 Peter Laws wrote: >>> Thanks to the TDE team letting me do "stuff I do all the time" like I >>> always have!! >> Of course I'll second that too. TDE gave me years of happy computing after >> KDE went in the wrong direction. >> >> Thierry > +1 +10^23

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"Arbitrary changes to their UI"
by Peter Laws 09 Dec '16

09 Dec '16

Believe this has some relevance here. http://xkcd.com/1770/ Thanks to the TDE team letting me do "stuff I do all the time" like I always have!! -- Peter Laws, BS, MRCP / N5UWY National Weather Center / Network Operations Center University of Oklahoma Information Technology plaws(a)ou.edu

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xsane crash
by Uwe Brauer 07 Dec '16

07 Dec '16

Hi I try to save a scanned document, which I have scanned with xsane. When trying to use a specific folder xsane crashes with the following message. [kcrash] TDECrash: Application 'xsane-gtk-tqt-application' crashing Years ago kgtk-qt3-trinity could cause certain applications to crash, but kgtk-qt3-trinity is not installed. Could it be something similar? Regards Uwe Brauer

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Displaying QMap objects in a dialog
by Leslie Turriff 06 Dec '16

06 Dec '16

The application I'm writing will have a small group of key-value pairs associated with each object. Looking through the docs, I see widgets for displaying elementary items (e.g. TQListBox), but nothing for something like a TQMap (e.g. a TQlistBoxMap). I could use a TQTable, but that strikes me as akin to using a sledgehammer to kill flies. As a neophite c++ programmer, I know that in theory I can subclass TQListBoxItem to do this, but how to go about that, I haven't a clue. The docs say merely that ' If you need to insert customized items into a TQListBox you must inherit this class and reimplement paint(), height() and width().' Any suggestions to help get me started with this would be appreciated. Leslie

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Struggling with "C++ GUI Programming with Qt 3"
by Leslie Turriff 06 Dec '16

06 Dec '16

Hi, I'm trying to learn to write a GUI app using the book "C++ GUI Programming with Qt 3", which of course is not written with Trinity in mind, but hopefully will be enough to get me started. I've already figured out that I need to substitute 'tqmake' for 'qmake', but I can't get the simple 'helloworld' project to actually compile the c++ code. I've got the project generated, and I see the code in its src/ directory, but when I try to build it (the book says to use 'make') it says "make: Nothing to be done for 'first'." Here is the Makefile generated by tqmake: > > ########################################################################### > Makefile for building: Tutorial1 > Generated by qmake (1.07a) (TQt 3.5.0) on: Wed Nov 16 22:57:35 2016 > Project: Tutorial1.pro > Template: subdirs > Command: $(QMAKE) -o Makefile Tutorial1.pro > ########################################################################### > > MAKEFILE = Makefile > MAKE = tqmake > DEL_FILE = rm -f > CHK_DIR_EXISTS= test -d > MKDIR = mkdir -p > INSTALL_FILE= > INSTALL_DIR = > SUBTARGETS = > > first: all > > all: Makefile $(SUBTARGETS) > > Makefile: Tutorial1.pro /usr/share/tqt3/mkspecs/default/qmake.conf > $(QMAKE) -o Makefile Tutorial1.pro > qmake: qmake_all > @$(QMAKE) -o Makefile Tutorial1.pro > > all qmake_all distclean uicables mocables install_subdirs uninstall_subdirs uiclean mocclean lexclean yaccclean clean : FORCE > install: install_subdirs > > uninstall: uninstall_subdirs > > FORCE: > And here is the Project file: > ###################################################################### > # Automatically generated by qmake (1.07a) Wed Nov 16 22:47:58 2016 > ###################################################################### > > TEMPLATE = subdirs > > # Directories Are there additional steps required when compiling a QT project in Trinity? Leslie

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How to make kmail bottom-post by default?
by Leslie Turriff 03 Dec '16

03 Dec '16

Is there a way to tell kmail to do this? Leslie

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Dolphin
by Baron 03 Dec '16

03 Dec '16

Hi Guys, PcLinuxOs, Trinity 14, I think I might have stumbled on a bug ! I've had folders seem to disappear when moved from one window to another. I've found that if there are more folders than can be displayed in the window, moving down to the bottom of the window so that the top folders cannot be seen, and then moving a folder from another window into the white space, results in the moved folder disappearing. Doing a find tells me that the missing folder is now in one of the folders above and not in the white space where I put it or in the sort order. If I move to the top of a folder with files below the bottom and If I move and put a folder from another window at the top but between the others it goes where I put it. It works as expected. I can repeat this every time. Note the folder sort is set to "By Name" I mention this because I thought that "Sort" might have something to do with it, but it doesn't seem to. Thanks Guys. -- Best Regards: Baron

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Re: [trinity-users] Re: Re: Dual screen setup not remembered
by midi-pascal 01 Dec '16

01 Dec '16

Thank you! Inspired by your scripts and the output of xrandr, two lines in my .bashrc did the job: xrandr --output HDMI-0 --right-of DVI-0 --auto --primary xrandr --output DVI-0 --auto I over-simplified the commands because I am on a desktop and my two screens are always connected. No more fiddling with screen settings on each login! :-) On 16-12-01 03:00 PM, deloptes wrote: > iadest(a)o2.pl wrote: > >> OK, this is a sum of 3 scripts I use: >> >> #!/bin/bash >> >> #Test if we are not in dock >> if [ -a /dev/video0 ] >> then >> #echo "Going to dock mode!"; >> xrandr --output LVDS1 --off >> #xrandr --output VGA1 --mode 1600x1200 >> xrandr --newmode "1600x1200b" 180.0 1600 1604 1796 2050 1200 >> 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync >> xrandr --addmode VGA1 1600x1200b >> xrandr --output VGA1 --primary --mode 1600x1200b >> xrandr --addmode DVI1 1600x1200b >> xrandr --output DVI1 --mode 1600x1200b >> xrandr --output DVI1 --right-of VGA1 >> else >> #we are not in dock. Check do we have output on VGA >> >> if [ -n "`xrandr | grep \"VGA1 conected\"`" ] >> then >> #echo "Going to projector mode!"; >> xrandr --output LVDS1 --mode 1024x768 --output VGA1 >> --mode 1024x768 --same-as LVDS1 >> fi >> fi >> >> There may be problems with newlines. "1201 1204 ..." is the continuing >> of previous line. "--mode 1024x768 --same-as LVDS1" is also in previous >> one. >> >> WARNING: Do not use this script directly on Your monitor without >> checking. High frequency may damage the monitor, especially old CRTs. >> >> So what I'm doing there: first I check for availability of my tuner >> card, this card is installed in dock. It computer is in dock, I: >> 1. Turn the LCD off >> 2. Set a custom 1600x1200 mode (here called "1600x1200b" for my >> monitor which is connected through Sun-VGA adapter and X has no idea >> how to handle 1600x1200 on it. >> 3. Activate it as primary. >> 4. Activate the second display (DVI) as the one right of VGA monitor. >> If I'm not in dock, I look for something connected to VGA port. >> If there is, LCD gets down to 1024x768, and VGA copies it. >> >> MCbx >> >> Gerhard Zintel <gerhard.zintel(a)mrs-thomas.de> >> napisał(a): >> >>> On Thursday 01 December 2016, deloptes wrote: >>>> iadest(a)o2.pl wrote: >>>> >>>>> Maybe this solution is not official and proper one, but works: >>>>> Put the xrandr commands in a shell script and execute is at >>>>> startup. >>>>> >>>>> I have such script which detects is my notebook docked first. If >>>>> yes, dual-screen configuration for dock outputs are set and >>>>> notebook's LCD is turned off. >>>>> If it's not docked, script checks for display connected to VGA >>>>> port. If it is, it duplicates screen from notebook decreasing >>>>> resolutions to 1024x768 as it's usually a projector in a lecture >>>>> room and it can't do more. >>>>> MCbx >>>> I do the same. In the office I have two additional monitors and at >>>> home one. So a shell script is checking what is available and runs >>>> xrandr to setup the monitor and resolution. >>>> Perhaps this is the reason we never noticed that the settings are >>>> not saved and/or applied at tde session startup. >>>> In fact I have noticed this on a VM ware recently, but I was >>>> thinking it has to do with the vmware. >>>> I think it is worth a bug report, so that we may not forget to >>>> inspect this. >>> Can one of you guys please share that kind of shell script here on >>> the list to give me a clue how to start? >>> >>> Gerhard >>> > SCREEN=`xrandr | egrep "[[:space:]]connected[[:space:]]" | grep -v eDP1` > if [[ "x"$SCREEN != "x" ]] > then > xrandr --output $SCREEN --right-of eDP1 --auto > xrandr --output eDP1 --off > else > xrandr --output eDP1 --auto > fi > > eDP1 or LVDS depends on your card - look into the driver manual > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net > For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net > Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ > Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting > >

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Dual screen setup not remembered
by midi-pascal 01 Dec '16

01 Dec '16

Hi, I use Trinity R14.0.4 under Ubuntu 14.04 on a Dell Optiplex 990. My setup is dual screen (1 HDMI 27po, 1 DisplayPort 24 po) connected to a Radeon video card. The 24po is on my left and the 27po is in front (main screen). I tried tderandrtray, Trinity Control Center, System Settings to set things up with success. But each time I log out or reboot, the display settings are lost. Both screens show the same display (main) and are in reverse order (left/right). Is there a way to make Trinity remember my screen settings so I do not have to set things up each time? Thanks!

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Directory depth
by Baron 28 Nov '16

28 Nov '16

Hi All, Quick question. 32 Bit LinuxOS, Trinity 14.0. Is there a limit to directory depth ? if so what is it. Thanks. -- Best Regards: Baron

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Can't install on Opensuse Leap 42.2
by Ian Gay 28 Nov '16

28 Nov '16

Attempt to install trinity-desktop on Opensuse Leap 42.2 fails with message Problem: trinity-desktop-14.0.4-1.oss422.noarch requires trinity-tdeaccessibility >= 14.0.4, but this requirement cannot be provided Attempt to install trinity-tdebase fails with message Problem: nothing provides libHalf.so.12()(64bit) needed by trinity-tdelibs-14.0.4-1.oss422.x86_64 What to do?

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Struggling with (T)QT3 tutorial
by gregory guy 27 Nov '16

27 Nov '16

Hi there! Not sure if It"s the right thing to do, but I adjusted tutorial 1 code (hello world) like this: ------------------------------------------------------------- #include <tqapplication.h> #include <tqpushbutton.h> int main( int argc, char **argv ) { TQApplication a( argc, argv ); TQPushButton hello( "Hello world!", 0 ); hello.resize( 100, 30 ); a.setMainWidget( &hello ); hello.show(); return a.exec(); } ------------------------------------------------------------ Since I've compiled Trinity by myself the headers are located in /usr/include/tqt and /usr/include/tqt3, the libraries (all of them) in /usr/lib64. I had to adjust the Makefile file accordingly, like this: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- INCPATH = -I/usr/share/tqt3/mkspecs/default -I. -I/usr/include/tqt -I/usr/include/tqt3 LINK = g++ LFLAGS = -luuid -Wl,-rpath,/usr/lib64 LIBS = $(SUBLIBS) -L/usr/lib64 -L/usr/X11R6/lib -luuid -ltqt-mt -lXext -lX11 -lm -lpthread --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hope that help!

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KolourPaint crashes TDE, Kuickshow shows garbage
by J. Drahun 18 Nov '16

18 Nov '16

Good day, all. So, subj is the problem. 1. (KolourPaint) I just wonder if I'm alone excepting such kind of error. If I'm not, is there any kind of solution? If I'm, I suppose I should file an issue? 2. (Kuickshow) I don't know what happens and if I'm able to do anything, but here's the attachment. I hope it shows.

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"End current session" as only option
by Thierry de Coulon 16 Nov '16

16 Nov '16

Hello all, I have installed MX-15 Linux (I think I learned about it here), that is Debian based. I haven't used it so much yet (main install using openSUSE). Following the announce of 14.0.4 I have tried to dist-upgrade, which worked well (appart of Grub2 overwriting my mbr as usual) and MX-15 now has 14.0.4. However, I can't shutdown from TDE (anymore? I think I could before, but I am not 100% sure). I have checked what settings I identify "(offer shutdown options" is checked, "allow shutdown" is set to "everybody") but after a right click + Log out <user> all I'm offered is to "End current session". To shutdown or restart I must use the command line and get root. Thierry

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Re: Re: [trinity-users] R14.0.4 Released, new target R14.0.5 started...
by Kate Draven 15 Nov '16

15 Nov '16

> Hello, > > Some more information about the RPM packages: > > Official packages are available from Trinity web site for the following > Linux distributions: > - CentOS, RHEL 5, 6 and 7 > - Fedora 23 and 24 > - Mageia 5 > - openSUSE 13.1, 13.2 and Leap 42.1 > - PCLinuxOS 2016 > > Current Trinity 14.0.3 users should receive the update automatically > through their distribution package manager. > > New users can install 14.0.4 packages using instruction on the Trinity Wiki. > > Some Linux distributions are no more supported by their vendor, so I did > not build 14.0.4 for them. TDE R14.0.3 is still downloadable at the > moment for these older distributions: > - Fedora 21 and 22 > - Mageia 4 > > Beside the official packages, there is also automatic package build > hosted by the Open Build Service, which is using the Trinity GIT > directly. These packages are an alternative to the official packages: > - https://build.opensuse.org/project/show/home:PunisherHD:Trinity:stable > (git tag r14.0.4) > - > https://build.opensuse.org/project/show/home:PunisherHD:Trinity:r14.0.x > (git branch r14.0.x) > - > https://build.opensuse.org/project/show/home:PunisherHD:Trinity:unstable > (git branch master) > > In the "unstable" repository you will find packages for some unsupported > distributions (Fedora 22, openSUSE Arm, openSUSE Tumbleweed, openSUSE > Leap 42.2) > > Have fun with this great release of Trinity :-) > > François > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- Thank you so much François Kate

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where does kmail store emails?
by Dr. Nikolaus Klepp 15 Nov '16

15 Nov '16

Hi all! I kmail, when typing an email address, kmail gives a dropdown list of previously entered mail adresses. Now I trying to get rid of some badly formed email adressess from that list, but I cannot figure out where kmail stores this list. So, does anybody know where this list lives? I also try to give konqueror a list of adresses that it should present the user when he/she types something in the URL field. Where do I find this list? Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA.

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R14.0.4 Released, new target R14.0.5 started...
by Slávek Banko 14 Nov '16

14 Nov '16

Hi all, if you have not seen announcement, R14.0.4 been released! http://www.trinitydesktop.org/newsentry.php?entry=2016.11.07 As previously announced, the number of supported versions of Ubuntu has been reduced. Newly was added support for Ubuntu 16.10. RPM packages and distributions has also been updated - François thank you! http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::10643 http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity/rpm/ For Ubuntu is now available two LiveCD: The official follow-up to the original KUbuntu - it is based on Ubuntu 14.04 (Trusty). Thirdparty (alternative) made from scratch - it is based on Ubuntu 16.04 (Xenial). https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/LiveCDs Now already begun work on a new target R14.0.5. Therefore in the Preliminary Stable Builds apt repository you can soon expect new packages. If you used the Preliminary Stable Builds repository only temporarily, and you prefer to stick on the official final release, it is now the best time to switch to the official repository. Otherwise, we will be very happy if you help us in testing the upcoming release. Thank you for your attention :) Cheers -- Slávek

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mailto link google-crome
by Greg Madden 13 Nov '16

13 Nov '16

Debian stable system latest TDE version R14.0.4. When I click on a mailto link in chrome it brings up the chrome browser, possibly looking for gmail. Google says the default behavior is to use the OS default mail client. I use Thunderbird and Kmail, chrome can not seem to find either one. Does this work for any one else? -- Greg

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Raspberry and TDE
by Rolf Schmidt 12 Nov '16

12 Nov '16

Hi, I tried to install TDE on a Raspberry Pi, which goes with an error in htdig - so I disabled its installation. But when I start tdm which ends without an error and no gui is shown. Starting with startx there is a gui, but I get no tde environment. Does someone else had this problem and solved it? Any help will be great. Thanks Rolf

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kde desktop: no icons, no right click
by Felmon Davis 08 Nov '16

08 Nov '16

hello, tried to upgrade and ended up with a nest of problems. I'm up and running Jessie but: a) the Desktop shows no icons and b) I cannot right-click - no response c) I like setting the Console schema to taste; the setting does not stick I assume some config file is amiss or some kind of permissions problem. advice? f. -- Felmon Davis

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kvpnc does not work anymore DNS server?
by Uwe Brauer 07 Nov '16

07 Nov '16

Hi I used kvpnc without problems in Kubuntu 10.04+trinity. But now either in Ubuntu 14.04+trinity or Kubuntu14.04+trinity I run into a serious problem. The kvpnc connects to the VPN server using the chisco backend. Everything works, connection is established, but then Any ping does not give a result for example ping www.economist.com Just hangs. But ping 192.230.82.108 Gives a result so it seems a strange DNS problem When I have no connection then ping www.economist.com just would give unknown host Be it as it may, I cannot use the connection this way. The browser does not fin Once I close the vpn tunnel everything works again fine. I googled but did not find any result. Any help on this issue is highly appreciated since VPN is very important to me. Uwe Brauer

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Re: partial update to 14.0.4
by Slávek Banko 06 Nov '16

06 Nov '16

On Sunday 06 of November 2016 02:00:32 James D. Freels wrote: > Hello TDE users: > > I updated my Debian-8 (jessie) system today as usual. However, several > TDE packages at version 14.0.4 were included in the update. > > Unfortunately, it was a partial upgrade, so it is rendered my system as > only partially usable with TDE. For example, I do not have tdm-trinity > or kicker-trinity and I cannot restore them since the TDE system is > basically broken because of this partial upgrade. > > What is going on and how can I fix this ? > > James D. Freels > freelsjd(a)gmail.com You've probably hit to the middle of upload the new release. Try to make the apt-get update and upgrade again. -- Slávek

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GTK Styles and Fonts doesn't seem to work with Firefox.
by Leslie Turriff 06 Nov '16

06 Nov '16

I would like very much to change the fonts that Firefox uses from Sans-Serif to a Serif font. All of the fixes for this issue that I've found on the web advocate using GTK-QT-engine and GTK Styles and Fonts to fix this, but it's not working for me. After verifying that GTK-QT-engine (trinity-gtk-qt-engine) is installed, I shut down all instances of Firefox, then used the Trinity Control Center to set "Use my TDE style in GTK2 applications", "Use my TDE style in GTK3 applications", and "Use my TDE fonts in GTK2 applications"; but after restarting Firefox, the same old Sans-Serif fonts are displayed in all Firefox menus, dialogs, etc. I also tried "Use another (GTK2) font, specifying "Droid Serif (size 9)", but that didn't work either. There is no GTK3 Fonts section in GTK Styles and Fonts, so I can't explicitly tell TDE to change the GTK3 fonts. Is there another way to tell Firefox (and other GTK apps) to use a different font without installing all of Gnome? Leslie

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tdenetworkmanger again: wired icon is not working
by Uwe Brauer 02 Nov '16

02 Nov '16

Hi I am running Trinity, having installed it from the latest CD live, using Ubuntu 14.04. On monday I set my wired net with the tdenetworkmanager only. Everything worked fine, the connection was set manually, the connected icon for wired showed up. Then yesterday, I connected to a wirless net, using tdenetworkmanager, again everything fine. Today I deactivated the wireless card and tried to connect again to the wired net. It did not work. I found out that the resolv.conf file, which is a link from /run/resolv/resolv.conf --> /etc/resolv.conf was empty. So I manually set a new connection, but the resolv.conf file was not changed, I replaced the resolv.conf file by the correct file and then the connection worked, however the icon, still shows wired connection *not* connected. This is annoying. Does anybody using the same distribution have this problem and knows a solution? Thanks Uwe Brauer

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Live CD severe problem in connecting to wired net.
by Uwe Brauer 01 Nov '16

01 Nov '16

Hi So I finally gave the Live CD, which is based Ubuntu 14.04. The wireless works fine now. But I have a sever problem with the wired network, which installed via the systemsettings. Every 1 min the net is gone, inspecting the error: the default gateway is deleted. So I have to reconfigure the net, but every minute makes it a PITA. The file in /etc/network/interfaces is fine though I never faced that problem before (Using trinity 3.5.13 on Lucid and even using R 14 on Kubuntu 14.04 (which gave me a problem with wireless, but not that sever problem)). I summarize: - Kubutu 10.04 + Trinity 3.5.13 everything is fine. - Kubuntu 14.04 + Trinity 14.04, wired more or less ok, wireless has a problem with tdenetworkmanager, wicd works fine though. - Live CD based on Ubuntu 14.04, wireless tdenetworkmanager is fine, wired net breaks down every minute when configured by systemsettings. My most pressing question, how can I get the wired net to work. Thanks Uwe Brauer

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Re: [trinity-users] New packages on next stable TDE
by midi-pascal 01 Nov '16

01 Nov '16

On 16-10-31 01:31 PM, Nicolas Dobigeon wrote: > Hello friends, > > I was hanging in the TDE website and i saw two new packages on the > master branch ( tde-style-domino and tde-style-baghira). > http://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/tde-style-domino/ > http://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/tde-style-baghira/ > > Will they become avalaible in the next stable TDE version ? > Does anybody use those styles on your computer ? > I'm very curious to see how it look on TDE ? > > Thanks. I used Baghira as my theme for years. I ported it from sources to TDE. Love it :-) It works like a charm and looks really good. I ported Kooldock too. Nice little app I used for years too. Hope both will be available in the next release! Pascal

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New packages on next stable TDE
by Nicolas Dobigeon 31 Oct '16

31 Oct '16

Hello friends, I was hanging in the TDE website and i saw two new packages on the master branch ( tde-style-domino and tde-style-baghira). http://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/tde-style-domino/ http://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/tde-style-baghira/ Will they become avalaible in the next stable TDE version ? Does anybody use those styles on your computer ? I'm very curious to see how it look on TDE ? Thanks.

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kubuntu 14+trinity tdenetworkmanager refuses to conncect after fresh install
by Uwe Brauer 31 Oct '16

31 Oct '16

Hi I just reinstalled Kubuntu 14.04. - Connected to a wifi, the wallet was called - installed trinity (via the nightly builds) - rebooted and started trinity - when I tried to connect to the wifi I just configured with KDE4 I see can't connection attempt failed, secrects were required. So I tried to re-configure it that is I deleted the configuration and added a new one with the same parameters, did not help I am puzzled. Uwe

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Re: [trinity-users] Re: kubuntu 14+trinity tdenetworkmanager refuses to conncect after fresh install
by Dave Lers 30 Oct '16

30 Oct '16

Uwe Brauer wrote: > for example configuring the printer turned out easier in KDE4 > than in trinty. Using Trinity's TDEPrint?? I was surprised how easy it was to get my printer setup using tdeprint. It may have been that the printer was new, but it was a PITA to setup when I was using KDE4.

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trinity live for Ubuntu
by Uwe Brauer 30 Oct '16

30 Oct '16

Hi Just a curious almost historical question, I just downloaded and installed for the first time since years, trinity from the live CD, and I saw trinity is uses on Ubuntu on that CD not Kubuntu. Now trinity is a forge of Kubuntu not Ubuntu so I was wondering what is the reason for that decision. Uwe Brauer

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