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date-timestamp in Kmail
by William Morder 16 Sep '20

16 Sep '20

Incidentally -- this is off-topic, new question, so a new thread -- Why are your* timestamps set in the future? My replies to your emails are actually dated an hour or so *before* your original emails. The time of your email is actually set in the future, at least an hour after my system clock, which is set to local time, PDT US. Are you a visitor from the future, here to warn us against where our bad mailing list behavior will lead us (that is, to certain disaster)? Or is there some more reasonable explanation? Please see attached screenshot for proof. Bill P.S. * The use of 'you' and 'your' refer to Dan Youngquist, or at least his future self. jabber/xmpp dr_mojo_contendo(a)hot-chilli.net

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MX & TDE
by Dr. Nikolaus Klepp 16 Sep '20

16 Sep '20

A question to all apt at MX Linux: Is there a way to change the GUI from english to e.g. german for the live session? I know I can change it later to german when TDE is already installed, but I have to walk a group pf people through that process that are a bit older than myself and not all speak englisch at all. Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ...

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Migration of mailing lists to a new server
by Slávek Banko 16 Sep '20

16 Sep '20

Hi all, we would like to inform you that as part of the migration of services to the new TDE server, new mailing lists have been created. Accounts subscribed to the original MLs have not been migrated, because the consent previously granted to receive posts from those MLs cannot automatically be considered as an approval for the new MLs. To ensure a smooth migration, an agent that forwards posts between old and new MLs has been setup. This allows time to subscribe to new MLs and unsubscribe from old MLs without missing any posts. The migration agent will be active until the end of October 2020, after which posts will no longer be forwarded and the old MLs may be deactivated any time. Therefore please subscribe to the new MLs as soon as possible and unsubscribe from the old ones. The full text of the announcement you can read in the archive of the tde-announcements mailing list - see https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/.... To subscribe to the new MLs either use the webinterface: https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/ or send a blank mail to the address of this new ML: users-join(a)trinitydesktop.org To unsubscribe from the original ML, send a blank email to the address of the original ML: trinity-users-unsubscribe(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net Thank you for your understanding. Cheers -- Slávek

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Strange installation message for Ubuntu 20.04
by Uwe Brauer 16 Sep '20

16 Sep '20

Hi I followed exactly the instructions on https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Ubuntu_Trinity_Repository_Installation_Inst… And I obtained Skipping acquire of configured file 'main/binary-i386/Packages' as repository 'http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/deb/trinity-r14.0.x focal InRelease' doesn't support architecture 'i386' N: Skipping acquire of configured file 'main/binary-i386/Packages' as repository ' http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/deb/trinity-builddeps-r14.0.x focal InRelease' doesn't support architecture 'i386' E: Failed to fetch http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/deb/trinity-r14.0.x/pool/main/… Error reading from server. Remote end closed connection [IP: 37.205.10.16 80] E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing? So I run fix-missing and it seems to have succeeded, but I found the whole process a bit suspicious. Any comments? Regards Uwe Brauer --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting

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TrinityDog
by Dr. Nikolaus Klepp 16 Sep '20

16 Sep '20

Has anybody of you ever heard of "TrinityDog" ? Looks a bit dated, but somehow it's funny :) https://debiandog.github.io/doglinux/zz06-trinitydog.html Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ...

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systemd-homed - new thread
by William Morder 16 Sep '20

16 Sep '20

From Nik's previous post: https://linuxreviews.org/Systemd-homed This systemd crap is already bad enough, but homed will eventually work its way into other stuff beyond systemd, and then will become hard to avoid. It *sounds* good, being able to move home directories from one machine to another without so much fuss; but I already do that, pretty much, with only a little fuss. My suspicion is that somebody's mother is now trying to impose conformity on everybody, not just myself, to do our thinking for us; because, of course, it is for our own good. They are trying to get rid of a headache by giving us nightmares instead. Bill P.S. Note that I alone am sticking to the discipline of creating a completely new thread.

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installing icecat from source packages
by William Morder 15 Sep '20

15 Sep '20

One of those headaches, for myself, is installing from source packages. I hate doing it, mainly because there are different archives, different methods for extraction, etc. No two sets of instructions for untar and install, etc., look alike. You may disagree, if you like, but that's how it goes with me. Anyway ... I managed to get icecat installed from source packages, the latest stable version, 60-something. (I saw a version 90-something on their site, but wonder about the 30 versions in-between that are missing ...) Right away, I noticed that a lot of problems totally vanished. I could explain in more detail, but some will believe me, and some will not, according to their own needs and wants. Now that I have it fresh in my mind, what needs to be done to make a successful installation, and seeing how useful it is, and wondering how I lived with lesser browsers, I thought maybe others might benefit from knowing the steps, now that I have it still fresh in my mind. If there is some way of sharing this list of steps, I would be glad to retrace; but I don't want to go to this trouble if nobody cares. It may be that a) it's already obvious how-to for most readers of this list, or b) others are already satisfied with their browsers, or c) don't care, for a host of other reasons or non-reasons. On a side note, I wonder if we could get a proper, working, up-to-date version of icecat into the repositories somewhere (as it has disappeared from Trisquel and others). I suppose a browser is not really a candidate for becoming a TDE-Trinity package? but it is a thought, since we already have Konqueror, which is a web browser as well as a file manager. Just making the offer, if anybody would find it useful. I don't even know where I would post it, that it could be found by those who are searching for it. Bill jabber/xmpp dr_mojo_contendo(a)hot-chilli.net

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Icecat Downloads
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 15 Sep '20

15 Sep '20

If you want to give Icecat a go, you can get it here. https://mirrors.ocf.berkeley.edu/gnu/gnuzilla/60.7.0/ It's a year old. Just tried it on Big Daddy and it works well. Kate --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting

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Re: Auto-mount no longer auto-mounts (TDE mediamanager)
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 14 Sep '20

14 Sep '20

> On Monday 14 September 2020 04:31:41 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > > Anno domini 2020 Mon, 14 Sep 07:21:53 -0400 > > > > BorgLabs - Kate Draven via tde-users scripsit: > > > On Sunday 13 September 2020, Michael via tde-users wrote: > > > > On Sunday 13 September 2020 12:58:14 pm William Morder via tde-users > wrote: > > > > > On Sunday 13 September 2020 07:55:00 Michael via tde-users wrote: > > > > > > On Tuesday 08 September 2020 09:18:30 am Michael via tde-users > wrote: > > > > > > > On Tuesday 08 September 2020 01:04:43 am William Morder via > > > > > > > tde-users > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Monday 07 September 2020 22:53:46 deloptes via tde-users > wrote: > > > > > > > > > William Morder via tde-users wrote: > > > > > > > > > > When I want to inspect my hard drives (internal/external, > > > > > > > > > > mounted/unmounted), I found it is sometimes useful to > > > > > > > > > > enter, in the address bar: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > media:/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This gives me information about my drives at a glance, as > > > > > > > > > > well as allowing access to various tools and settings for > > > > > > > > > > working with those disks and partitions. I don't use it > > > > > > > > > > often (relatively speaking), but now I find that I cannot > > > > > > > > > > use it at all when running Konqueror as root. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Isn't it using dbus and dbus is not running for root? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know. It used to work for me before, in Jessie, and > > > > > > > > especially when running Kubuntu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I get that message in both root and user level Konqueror. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But! I know media:/ works just after sticking in a thumb drive > > > > > > > as it does it's auto-mount thing and then a Konqueror pop-up with > > > > > > > media:/{thumb-drive} in the Location bar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my 2 cents, > > > > > > > Michael > > > > > > > > > > > > My 2 cents is no longer valid. The auto-mount thing no longer > > > > > > auto-mounts. > > > > > > > > > > > > - This system* was built ~7/25, auto-mount worked correctly then. > > > > > > - AFAIK auto-mount worked correctly around 8/15. > > > > > > - Last rebooted 8/26. > > > > > > - As of today, 9/13, sticking in a USB drive does not auto-mount. > > > > > > - Manually mounting works. > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyone know what changed in the last month or so? > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > Michael > > > > > > > > > > And here was I thinking that it was all in my head. Besides these > > > > > problems, I have other weird developments; like, for example, my > > > > > customized mount points no longer being recognized. > > > > > > > > I needed to reboot and now auto-mount and media:/ work correctly again > > > > for normal user. > > > > > > > > root - Konqueror, throws errors: > > > > > > > > media:/ > > > > > > > > The TDE mediamanager is not running. > > > > > > > > During the previous startup, KNotify crashed while instantiating > > > > KNotify. Do you want to try again or disable aRts sound output? > > > > If you choose to disable aRts output now, you can re-enable it later or > > > > select an alternate sound player in the System Notifications control > > > > panel. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > I also get the arts crash as root. No more info on that. > > > > > > The TDE mediamanager thing happened to me when I had > > > lib64ice6-1.0.10-1pclos2019.x86_64 installed. I downgraded to > > > lib64ice6-1.0.9-2pclos2016.x86_64 and it stopped mostly. > > > > What is that "lib64ice6" ? I don't see it on devuan/beowulf. > > > > For your entertainment: https://linuxreviews.org/Systemd-homed - just > > imagine that thing enabled on your systems ... > > > > Nik > > > > > Kate > > > > > All this is very interesting, but I wonder what is causing it. Another thing > that happens in my system recently (in the past few weeks): when I plug in a > flash drive, suddenly a little bouncing icon for VLC starts up, meaning that > something has awakened and is loading. > > Problem is, VLC isn't installed on my system. I do install it now and again, > because it's the only way that I can watch DVDs; other players just don't cut > it. (For other videos, I tend to use smplayer.) But I have never installed > VLC in this new system, devuan beowulf. When I look at what's running in top, > nothing obvious shows up. > > I've been transferring music files to micro SD cards, to put in smartphones > for myself and a friend; and suddenly Konqueror has started created its own > custom mount points, ignores fstab, ignores my automount scripts, basically > is putting out something that looks like original defaults for those devices. > (Before that, I couldn't get some of these gadgets to mount at all.) > > So here is a sample of the "mount points"* that have been bestowed upon me, > against my will, by some higher, non-human intelligence: > > /media/Elements_25A1 > /media/External_HDD____ > /media/Mass_Storage_Device > /media/My_Book_________ > /media/<pete> > /media/<user> > /media/USB_Storage > > * Note that names in brackets (< >) have been changed to protect the innocent; > they are not my real mount points. > > I always create my own unique names for mount points; names like Pete and Fred > (though I am more inventive still ...) are easier to remember than keeping > straight which drive is Mass_Storage_Device and which is USB_Storage, or > Elements_25A1 or My_Book_________. (Incidentally, WTF with the weird > lines???) > > Another thing is, dbus seems to be acting weird, and I don't know enough about > it to attempt corrections. I already have rather a lot on my plate at the > moment. > > These developments are all new, since my installation of beowulf/buster; I > never had anything like this is jessie or before, never even with the old > KDE3. It reminds me of those *other* DEs or OSs that I try so hard to avoid. > > Somebody please make sense of these developing disasters. > > Bill > _______________________________________________ Check your file associations. kcontrol > TDE Components > File Associations Check Storage Media settings: kcontrol > peripherals > storage media See what you find. Look for anything related to removable media. Kate --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting

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TDE mediamanager - missing in root Konqueror ?
by William Morder 14 Sep '20

14 Sep '20

So this is a brand-new thread, because I want to set a good example for others. (That's me, a role model to the youth ...) I encountered a problem in the newest version of Konqueror that did not seem to exist in the older versions, so far as I know. When I want to inspect my hard drives (internal/external, mounted/unmounted), I found it is sometimes useful to enter, in the address bar: media:/ This gives me information about my drives at a glance, as well as allowing access to various tools and settings for working with those disks and partitions. I don't use it often (relatively speaking), but now I find that I cannot use it at all when running Konqueror as root. See attachments for screenshots. (Note that my weird colors in root are intentional; I override some settings to make it easier on my old eyes.) I already tested this on a fresh installation, before applying any customized settings. When it's not there, I find that I need to use it much more than I remember. I am sure that there are other ways to obtain the same information, other ways to accomplish the same things -- and I would be glad to hear them -- but for now, however, I really want to retrieve these tools. I have installed some new hard drives, and as usual, they need some help in finding their proper place in my system. Thanks for any help or suggestions! Bill jabber/xmpp dr_mojo_contendo(a)hot-chilli.net

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